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Posted 14 July 2009 - 03:15 PM

View PostBalbir Singh, on Jul 14 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
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Quote "God resides in all of us. So he resided in Vishnu also."
Quote "When all is said that includes all of us. Vishnu is no special."

Have I understood it correctly?
God is special. But when HE resides in Vishnu, Vishnu is no special.
Did any of the reverend Gurus also say that Vishnu is no special?


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The message of sikh gurus is that they do not support the avtar concept
of Hinduism. In Hinduism avtars are considerd as absolute Gods.

The sikhism does not support that.So those who say that Dasam granth promotes
Devtas are misguided persons.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 05:32 PM

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
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You wrote "The message of sikh gurus is that they do not support the avtar concept . . ."
Did the reverend Gurus deny once the existence of Avtaar?
Without getting Avtaar as Manukh (human being) how is it possible to receive true Naam and liberation?

Quote "The message of sikh gurus is that they do not support the avtar concept of Hinduism."
Avtaars were coming on earth also before Hinduism.

Quote "In Hinduism avtars are considerd as absolute Gods."
I do not know if some Hindus are ignorant but why Sikhs are wasting life to prove it.

Quote "The sikhism does not support that.So those who say that Dasam granth promotes Devtas are misguided persons."
Unwitting preachers may produce wrong translations but they cannot change the original statements of the Gurus.
Please ponder. Why the reverend Gurus have used so often names which you consider as Hindu Devis and Devtas?

Better long for the state where also the Jeev can praise those Names whom you call Hindu Devtas.


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Posted 14 July 2009 - 05:52 PM

View PostBalbir Singh, on Jul 14 2009, 05:32 PM, said:

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all and Singh2 Jee!

You wrote "The message of sikh gurus is that they do not support the avtar concept . . ."
Did the reverend Gurus deny once the existence of Avtaar?
Without getting Avtaar as Manukh (human being) how is it possible to receive true Naam and liberation?

Quote "The message of sikh gurus is that they do not support the avtar concept of Hinduism."
Avtaars were coming on earth also before Hinduism.

Quote "In Hinduism avtars are considerd as absolute Gods."
I do not know if some Hindus are ignorant but why Sikhs are wasting life to prove it.

Quote "The sikhism does not support that.So those who say that Dasam granth promotes Devtas are misguided persons."
Unwitting preachers may produce wrong translations but they cannot change the original statements of the Gurus.
Please ponder. Why the reverend Gurus have used so often names which you consider as Hindu Devis and Devtas?

Better long for the state where also the Jeev can praise those Names whom you call Hindu Devtas.


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Let us know what is your understanding of meaning of Avatr. I have asked it earlier also.

It is possible that these names were prevalent in India before and hindu devtas haev copied these names later?
But Guru sahib has clarified what these names mean.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 10:03 PM

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
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Quote "Let us know what is your understanding of meaning of Avatr. I have asked it earlier also."
God has created all from a part of HIM. All are His Avtaars.
Paapee and Punnee, all get Avtaar many times.
Only those get Muktee whom HE wants.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib mentions the word Avtaar in many forms.

Quote "It is possible that these names were prevalent in India before and hindu devtas haev copied these names later?"
Firstly came God's Will in existence then the trinity and rest of the world.
God's Names are his 'Kirtam' Naams because they work in a particular way. They existed before any so-called religion came in existence.

This was supposed to be published in a book form. Your love has forced me to answer today.


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