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[das]

Here I am trying to gather together all the things that point towards something in 2012 or say after 5000 years of Kalyug passing.

• Guru Arjan Dev Ji said that: This is mentioned in Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji's (Rara Sahib) deewan.
  - After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all dev-devte who are giving Shudi (pure) to Tiraths will fled away from this earth.
  
  
• Guru Gobind Singh Ji mentioned that: As mentioned in Sakhi Pothi
  - Khalsa will spread in the 4 corners of the world.
  - "When the Pipal tree will spread over the Jand tree, then the spirit of the order of the Khalsa, which I have enshrined under the command of God Almighty shall start to work to set up a world-society, which will last for 5000 years. That divine society will enjoy peace and affluence."
  
  
• Harbhajan Singh Yogi mentioned in 1992 that:
  - There will be Khalsa Raj somewhere after 2012 and it will rule on India, Burma, Pakistan etc.
  - Starting from 2012 there will be start of new age (Aquarius Age) and it will be started with natural calamities (catastrophes), wars etc.
  
  
• Bhavishya Purana
  - Krishan Ji told ganga that Golden Age will come in Kalyug and it will start around after 5000 years of Kalyug.
  
  
• Mayan Calander states that:
  - After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all dev-devte who are giving Shudi (pure) to Tiraths will fled away from this earth.
  - It does NOT has any dates after 2012 and some people are predicating that world will end after 2012. This interpretation is incorrect. Actually, Mayan calendar consists of only 5 cycles. It states that there will be change of some cycle after 2012.
  
  
• Spiritual Science Foundation states that:
  - We are entering into new state/cycle starting from 2012.
  - There will be very big level wars, natual catastrophes from 2012-2025 which will cost the reduction of world's population to around 60%. After 2025 there will be 100% Golden Period and it will last for around 5000 years.
  
  
• Nostradamus Prediction:
  - He predicated 3 world-war in between 1992-2012 and very high occurances of natural disasters around 2012.
  
  
• We have seen that the tensions between countries, Recession across the globle, natural disasters have increased for the last many years and they might grow with time.

Now, as per my understanding if we club the above, we get:

• There will be something bad happening starting from November/December 2012.
  
• After reducing the population (those who are Nastik or bad along with some good one) to double digit %, then there will be calm.
  
• Then there will be Khalsa Raj (here Khalsa is pure as defined by Guru Gobind Singh Ji) for 5000 years. This will be a called a true Golden Period in Kalyug.
  
• After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all devi-devte of tiraths will fled earth and thus no tirath will provide Shudi. Only those who meditate on Naam will be able to swim across this wordly ocean.
  
• Starting from 10,000 of Kalyug, a period will start where there will no relations, brother will have relations with her sisters etc. and towards the end of Kalyug almost everyone will be sinked in sins.... as defined in Guru Gobind Singh Ji's bani and also in some Purans etc.
  
• At almost the end of Kalyug, there will be Kalki-Avatar to kill the bad. Then Kalki-Avatar will become proud and then again another Avatar will come to kill Kalki etc. Here important thing to consider is that here Kalki-Avatar is not someone who can save us in Kalyug. His aim will be to kill the bad. The ONLY thing which can save us in Kalyug is ONLY Naam (as told by all of our Gurus).

Please kindly, put your thoughts.

Thanks!

[dalsingh101]

If people think Khalsa raj will fall from the sky without effort, planning and strong desire on the part of Sikhs, I have to question their grip on reality.

Raj would only come with military superiority and/or exceptional, prudent, globally visioned leadership. We haven't got any of that at the moment. Hell, we can barely run Gurdwaras and have no media presence. A lot of this hinges on leadership, which must be cultivated, encouraged and invested in. This doesn't appear to be happening either.

Finally, the belief in the whole premise of the Aquarius age goes against Sikh theology if Bhai Gurdas is anything to go by.


I don't think the translation is great but:

ਸਉਣ ਸਗੁਨ ਵੀਚਾਰਣੇ ਨਉ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਬਾਰਹ ਰਾਸਿ ਵੀਚਾਰਾ ।

saun sagun veechaaranay nau grih baarah raasi veechaaraa|

The life led in the light of omens, the nine planets, the twelve signs of the zodiac;




ਕਾਮਣ ਟੂਣੇ ਅਉਸੀਆ ਕਣਸੋਈ ਪਾਸਾਰ ਪਸਾਰਾ ।

kaaman toonay auseeaa kanasoee paasaar pasaaraa|

Incantations, magic divination by lines and by the voice is all futile.




ਗਦਹੁ ਕੁਤੇ ਬਿਲੀਆ ਇਲ ਮਲਾਲੀ ਗਿਦੜ ਛਾਰਾ ।

gadahu kutay bileeaa il malaalee gidarh chhaaraa|

Cries of donkeys, dogs, cats, kites, blackbirds and jackals cannot control our lives.




ਨਾਰਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਪਾਣੀ ਅਗਨਿ ਛਿਕ ਪਦ ਹਿਡਕੀ ਵਰਤਾਰਾ ।

naari purakhu paanee agani chhik pad hidakee varataaraa|

It is superstitious to draw good or bad omens from meeting a widow, a bare headed man, water, fire, sneezing, breaking wind, hiccups;.




ਥਿਤਿ ਵਾਰ ਭਦ੍ਰਾ ਭਰਮ ਦਿਸਾ ਸੂਲ ਸਹਸਾ ਸੈਸਾਰਾ ।

diti vaar bhadraa bharam disaa sool sahasaa saisaaraa|

Lunar and week days, lucky-unlucky moments and going or not going in a particular direction




ਵਲਛਲ ਕਰਿ ਵਿਸਵਾਸ ਲਖ ਬਹੁ ਚੁਖੀ ਕਿਉ ਰਵੈ ਭਤਾਰਾ ।

valachhal kari visavaas|akh bahu chukhee kiu ravai bhataaraa|

If a women behaves like a prostitute and does every thing to please everybody, how can she be loved by her husband.




ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੁਖ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਰ ਉਤਾਰਾ ॥੮॥

guramukhi sukh dhalu paar utaaraa ॥8॥

The gurmukhs who reject all superstitions enjoy happiness with their Lord and get across the world-ocean.

[Xylitol]

das, on Aug 13 2009, 09:37 AM, said:

Here I am trying to gather together all the things that point towards something in 2012 or say after 5000 years of Kalyug passing.

• Guru Arjan Dev Ji said that: This is mentioned in Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji's (Rara Sahib) deewan.
  - After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all dev-devte who are giving Shudi (pure) to Tiraths will fled away from this earth.
  
  
• Guru Gobind Singh Ji mentioned that: As mentioned in Sakhi Pothi
  - Khalsa will spread in the 4 corners of the world.
  - "When the Pipal tree will spread over the Jand tree, then the spirit of the order of the Khalsa, which I have enshrined under the command of God Almighty shall start to work to set up a world-society, which will last for 5000 years. That divine society will enjoy peace and affluence."
  
  
• Harbhajan Singh Yogi mentioned in 1992 that:
  - There will be Khalsa Raj somewhere after 2012 and it will rule on India, Burma, Pakistan etc.
  - Starting from 2012 there will be start of new age (Aquarius Age) and it will be started with natural calamities (catastrophes), wars etc.
  
  
• Bhavishya Purana
  - Krishan Ji told ganga that Golden Age will come in Kalyug and it will start around after 5000 years of Kalyug.
  
  
• Mayan Calander states that:
  - After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all dev-devte who are giving Shudi (pure) to Tiraths will fled away from this earth.
  - It does NOT has any dates after 2012 and some people are predicating that world will end after 2012. This interpretation is incorrect. Actually, Mayan calendar consists of only 5 cycles. It states that there will be change of some cycle after 2012.
  
  
• Spiritual Science Foundation states that:
  - We are entering into new state/cycle starting from 2012.
  - There will be very big level wars, natual catastrophes from 2012-2025 which will cost the reduction of world's population to around 60%. After 2025 there will be 100% Golden Period and it will last for around 5000 years.
  
  
• Nostradamus Prediction:
  - He predicated 3 world-war in between 1992-2012 and very high occurances of natural disasters around 2012.
  
  
• We have seen that the tensions between countries, Recession across the globle, natural disasters have increased for the last many years and they might grow with time.

Now, as per my understanding if we club the above, we get:

• There will be something bad happening starting from November/December 2012.
  
• After reducing the population (those who are Nastik or bad along with some good one) to double digit %, then there will be calm.
  
• Then there will be Khalsa Raj (here Khalsa is pure as defined by Guru Gobind Singh Ji) for 5000 years. This will be a called a true Golden Period in Kalyug.
  
• After 5,000 years of Kalyug, all devi-devte of tiraths will fled earth and thus no tirath will provide Shudi. Only those who meditate on Naam will be able to swim across this wordly ocean.
  
• Starting from 10,000 of Kalyug, a period will start where there will no relations, brother will have relations with her sisters etc. and towards the end of Kalyug almost everyone will be sinked in sins.... as defined in Guru Gobind Singh Ji's bani and also in some Purans etc.
  
• At almost the end of Kalyug, there will be Kalki-Avatar to kill the bad. Then Kalki-Avatar will become proud and then again another Avatar will come to kill Kalki etc. Here important thing to consider is that here Kalki-Avatar is not someone who can save us in Kalyug. His aim will be to kill the bad. The ONLY thing which can save us in Kalyug is ONLY Naam (as told by all of our Gurus).

Please kindly, put your thoughts.

Thanks!

Baba Thakur Singh ji Bhindrenvale also told me that a huge portion of the world's population will die from war and disaster/famine etc. It will be a terrible time. It cannot be avoided no matter what, the time for that has passed. But it can be pushed back by the collective prayers of humanity. The more it gets pushed back, the less severe the tamasha will be.

Bhramgyani Jathedar Kulwant Singh ji said that a time will come when Sikhs will have to have a gutka sahib in one hand and a kirpan in the other at all times just to survive.

I have also heard that coastal cities will be underwater at some point. Vancouver Island in B.C. will sink underwater at some point.

Gyani Thakur Singh ji told me that things will likely begin around 2012. But again, can be pushed back or may even begin earlier.

Dalsingh, the concept of Aquarian age etc is used to define the spirit of the times. We need to focus on things we can control. The main thing we need is strong jeevans. More abhyaas, more rahit, longer amritvela.

[HSD1]

lets all ghost dance as well!!!! it worked for the native americans didnt it...........?

[Ragmaala]

Its very surprising that I just asked this question an hour ago to a chardikala mahapurakh. He said that bad things will happen but only in a limited space but there are many mahapurakhs on this earth who can lessen the effects of disaster.

Also this mahapurakh me about coming back of Baba Ishar Singh Kaleran wale in forthcoming years, even he doesnt know when he will come back but he will for sure.

[dalsingh101]

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Also this mahapurakh me about coming back of Baba Ishar Singh Kaleran wale in forthcoming years,

Is this the person usually called Sant Isher Singh Rarewale or are they 2 different people?

[N30 S!NGH]

two different saint figures.

[dalsingh101]

Thanks for clarifying that.

[das]

See more information about Earth Changes, Wars, New Age Peace etc.

http://www.near-deat...research32.html

[SURYADEV]

Don't really care if the world ends next year.....so long as I get to watch The Hobbit in 3D at the cinema beforehand.!!

[HSD1]

If KFC shuts because of this I am going to be so p***ed off.

[SURYADEV]

how does this sit with the belief that Kaljug is still young and will go on for hundreds of thousands of years yet?

HSD don't worry bout KFC/McD/Wendys etc.
Ive heard from those who have had near death experiences that they saw franchise outlets en route whilst being taken to Dharam Raja. Because its a long journey there you will be allowed toilet breaks should you want a McP!!s before you are presented to Mr D.R.

[HSD1]

Well, technically speaking, we could be entering a new enlightened age but still be in Kaljug. Or something. I'm interested in this Kalki-Avtar bloke though, sounds like a right laugh.

[dalsingh101]

One thing that does seem apparent to me is a sort of global breakaway from the past by most of the worlds communities. Like we are entering a new era? Maybe just an illusion though?

[JatherdarSahib]

Has anyone read Gur Bilas granth by Sukha singh recording sakhi of guru gobind singh and khalsa raj where he told singhs to take over the world but they only cared for punjab so he said later on they will take over the world.