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[Xylitol]

I've heard that Baba Nand Singh ji gave bachan that those who remain awake the amritvela of pooranmashi will gain the merit equivalent to 1 year worth of amritvela. This is for the pooranmashi of Guru Nanak Sahib's prakash diharra. For other pooranmashi's the laaha is equal to the merit of one month of amritvela.

I would like details and elaboration from anyone who can provide any info.

[Ragmaala]

Hanji, what you have heard is absolutely true. Just gotta have faith in Baba ji's bachan. The point is spending the whole night in yaad of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. The sole purpose of celebrating full moons by Baba ji was based on the fact that Guru Ji took Avatar on a full moon night. That is why so much emphasis is placed on pooranmashis. Usually people ( according to their capability) sit in evening diwan , stay awake all night until next morning. Then bhogs are done 7 am next day. So according to their sharda, and strength people stay awake the whole night from lets say 7 pm to 7 am ,and do bhagti in Guru Nanak's yaad.

Its all a matter of love and faith. The Bachan of Brahmgyani is Atal, so you definitely get the merit. Even if a bird crosses the boundaries of Nanaksar Jagraon, it is given a human form in next birth such is the pratap of that place, no wonder its called Bhagti da Ghar, the intense bhagtis of Baba Nand Singh Ji and Baba Ishar Singh, khavo kharcho ral mil bhai tot na aave vaddo jayi.

So pooranmashi is on 21st November. That means you will need to start getting ready by night of 20th november. It will be wonderful if you can find a Nanaksar Gurudwara nearby, if not then just do your bhagti, simran , nitnem. Baba Nand singh ji said Guru ji took AVATAR at 12:21 A.M.
So before that time bairgmayi shabad are read, at 12:21 Guru Nanak dev ji is welcomed, and after that khushi de shabad are read. Thats how its done at Nanaksar. so your best bet would be start 20th nov night and go past 12:21 am nov 21, and then continue as long as you can until the sun rises.

This is my understanding.
bhul chuk maaf

[Silence]

so generally do most nanaksar gurdwara sahibs (specifically uk) do all night programmes or only evening divans? If so, what kind of schedule is there of naam simran, keertan, bani etc.

What is a good schedule for the night if you are going to do it on your own?

also does anyone know if karamsar gurdwara ilford follows this same maryada?

Edited by Silence, 19 November 2010 - 09:21 AM.

[jaikaara]

so one has to stay awake a night prior pooran mashi or the night of pooran mashi >? what bani should be read ?

[Xylitol]

thanks for the detailed answer. What time do you recommend as the latest for a pre-pooranmashi nap??

[Ragmaala]

Silence, on 19 November 2010 - 09:20 AM, said:

so generally do most nanaksar gurdwara sahibs (specifically uk) do all night programmes or only evening divans? If so, what kind of schedule is there of naam simran, keertan, bani etc.

What is a good schedule for the night if you are going to do it on your own?

also does anyone know if karamsar gurdwara ilford follows this same maryada?

The main Gurudwara Nanaksar Jagraon does this for sure, I am not sure how other Gurudwaras do it.

[Ragmaala]

jaikaara, on 19 November 2010 - 05:28 PM, said:

so one has to stay awake a night prior pooran mashi or the night of pooran mashi >? what bani should be read ?

Since pooranmaashi is 21st Nov, so you must be up at 20th Nov 11:59 PM ( or prior) until morning 21st Nov,
The Avtar purab of Guru Nanak Dev Ji is 21st Nov, 12:21 A.M.

These are my remnants of memory from maybe 10 years ago. People would start gathering around Rehraas Sahib time ( the evening prior), and sit in evening diwans...it was like a rehansabhai...various keertani jathas came from all over world, so bascially it was katha keertan veechar all night. Then every pooranmashi people were given dargahi parshad ( 250 japji sahibs, 50 sukhmanis, 80 mala waheguru mantar/ day, 6 mala/day moolmantar, 1 sehaj path of Sri Guru granth Sahib ji, to be completed in one month).

At the main Jagraon Nanaksar, there was also a maryada of doing Ishnaan on Sarovar. Now I dont remember what time it was done before or after 12:21 AM, these details are murky. As far as I rememeber first it was waited for someone to do ishanan in sarovar...I am not sure who were the beings doing Ishana... my best bet is Guru Nanak Dev ji himself and the celestial beings that followed him ...after that then baba ji ( Baba Nand Singh Ji, or Baba Ishar Singh ji or majoooda mahapurash now on)would take ishanan in sarovar. Then after Baba ji sangat was allowed to have ishnan.

I also remember patake or fireworks being done around 12:21 Am timing. You dont realize the importance once you are far from it. Those were the days. Right now where I live there is no amrtidhari Gursikh, no sadhsangat and no gurudwara. But the scenic beauty is nice ,the vast atlantic ocean and the skies are pollution free, and the moon is the brightest you can possibly imagine. so I will be celebrating all by myself .

[Ragmaala]

Xylitol, on 19 November 2010 - 06:05 PM, said:

thanks for the detailed answer. What time do you recommend as the latest for a pre-pooranmashi nap??

For myself I have noticed that a 1-2 hour nap around 3ish PM easily takes me beyond 3 AM the next day. The only side effect is that I feel extremely grudgy after an afternoon nap.

[jaikaara]

Ragmaala, on 19 November 2010 - 06:47 PM, said:

Since pooranmaashi is 21st Nov, so you must be up at 20th Nov 11:59 PM ( or prior) until morning 21st Nov,
The Avtar purab of Guru Nanak Dev Ji is 21st Nov, 12:21 A.M.

These are my remnants of memory from maybe 10 years ago. People would start gathering around Rehraas Sahib time ( the evening prior), and sit in evening diwans...it was like a rehansabhai...various keertani jathas came from all over world, so bascially it was katha keertan veechar all night. Then every pooranmashi people were given dargahi parshad ( 250 japji sahibs, 50 sukhmanis, 80 mala waheguru mantar/ day, 6 mala/day moolmantar, 1 sehaj path of Sri Guru granth Sahib ji, to be completed in one month).

At the main Jagraon Nanaksar, there was also a maryada of doing Ishnaan on Sarovar. Now I dont remember what time it was done before or after 12:21 AM, these details are murky. As far as I rememeber first it was waited for someone to do ishanan in sarovar...I am not sure who were the beings doing Ishana... my best bet is Guru Nanak Dev ji himself and the celestial beings that followed him ...after that then baba ji ( Baba Nand Singh Ji, or Baba Ishar Singh ji or majoooda mahapurash now on)would take ishanan in sarovar. Then after Baba ji sangat was allowed to have ishnan.

I also remember patake or fireworks being done around 12:21 Am timing. You dont realize the importance once you are far from it. Those were the days. Right now where I live there is no amrtidhari Gursikh, no sadhsangat and no gurudwara. But the scenic beauty is nice ,the vast atlantic ocean and the skies are pollution free, and the moon is the brightest you can possibly imagine. so I will be celebrating all by myself .

raagmala veer ji thanks a ton for sharing this extremely divine experience, i live in a city which has a large number of sikhs but i havent been able to take part much due to odd hours of work, it would be just beautiful to witness so much of charhdikala

[Silence]

Ragmaala, on 19 November 2010 - 06:47 PM, said:

Then every pooranmashi people were given dargahi parshad ( 250 japji sahibs, 50 sukhmanis, 80 mala waheguru mantar/ day, 6 mala/day moolmantar, 1 sehaj path of Sri Guru granth Sahib ji, to be completed in one month.

Just to clarify, are you meant to do all of these or is it you choose which one to do?

Edited by Silence, 01 November 2011 - 01:55 PM.

[SURYADEV]

Silence, on 01 November 2011 - 01:54 PM, said:

Just to clarify, are you meant to do all of these or is it you choose which one to do?

just the ones you choose out of the list.

[Silence]

thank you

[zulu]

dhan dhan baba nand singh ji maharaj!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!