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[Kam1825]

After numerous requests that have been made via different frums today whilst the kids were at school i got the chance to digitise this book. Sri Gur Sobha by Dr Ganda Singh is a written account of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's life as seen by the court poet Kavi Sainapati. please take some time to read though this text and realise some very interesting facts that i found through this.

http://www.gurmatvee...rmatVeechar.com).pdf

[dalsingh101]

Thank you brother. Been after this for YEARS!! (No exaggeration)

[amardeep]

awsome. by lookin at the first chapter it becomes obvious that he had the bachitar natak with him when he wrote it. That makes the date of writing very important in discussing the dating of the dasam granth

[SikhKhoj]

now the discussion is wheter this book was written in 1701, 1711 or 1741.

[dalsingh101]

If it mentions the assassination attempt on Guru Ji at Nanded, we can exclude 1701. So we are looking at 1711 or 1741. Although some sections could have been written before 1708.

[amardeep]

Some say the book was begun in 1701 and finished later on in 1711.

Edited by amardeep, 19 June 2011 - 12:13 PM.

[amardeep]

Also iteresting it has the same manglacharan as sarbloh granth: waheguru ji ki fateh HAI..

[SikhKhoj]

Padam gives Gur Sobhas date as 1741 while Amardeep says that the western scholars give it 1711.

[dalsingh101]

Again, maybe we need to get away from the idea that we can definitively date such material beyond a doubt. What we can (possibly) say with some assurance is that it was completed sometime in the first half of the 18th century?

[amardeep]

Yup which is important for the sake of dating the dasam granth since it means that the Sikhs were aware of the existence of the Dasam Granth (well the Bachitar Natak at least) in the first half of the 18th century.

[SikhKhoj]

I don't think there is doubt about that, there are various Dasam Granth birs from 1720s-1740s.

We could get carbon dating done... Is it accurate/precise (I don't mean exact date but can the decade be known?) I heard there is some guy Jeevan Deol who checks and dates manuscripts too.