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  1. 5 points
    Thank you again, and now I completely understand why did you want to share the post with me. Actually while looking for a way of not sleeping, by the grace of guru ji's, I found how to do rom rom simran. what you shared I also started doing for last 10 days. I am going to keep on practicing this. I am making good progress but wants to do rom rom simran all the time instead of me focusing and starting this by controlling my breath and moving the focus on heartbeat and then naval pulses. I hope this will start automatically at some time. Thank you again for sharing this, It confirms that I am moving in the right direction.
  2. 4 points
    Dhan Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji Sache Patshah Ji Maharaj, May 27.
  3. 3 points
    Probably they have Intentionally not included those who have answered correctly... how's this possible that NOT ONE person knows about the real history?
  4. 3 points
    Exactly. They studied at western institutions that are infiltrated with leftists and their degenerate ideologies that seek to bring down every Religion as only a feel good,self help,be a better person,be good to everyone,club void of any spirituality,mysticism or divinity.You speak against them and you will be accused of "Hate". At the very basic of their problem is the 'Kala Engrej' mentality. These are sufferers of 'Internalized Racism'. They look up at the more successful races who have destroyed and liberalized their own religion and wish they were like them at the same time kicking and oppressing their own race to show their masters that they are somewhat better than the rest and have 'evolved'.These are very dangerous people that I predict one would contribute in a major Genocide against Sikhs. Their arrogance and internalized racism will reach a point where they will decide to provoke violence against Mainstream Sikhs to wipe us out and leave only them.You can already see their minions spewing extreme hate all over the internet.
  5. 3 points
    The Rt Hon Doctor karminder dhillon PHD Boston then writes: "The shabd is wholly spiritual. It uses multiple metaphors – marriage, junj, joree, daan, mighty human beings, power full beings etc etc. Guru ji also used IDIOMS. We need to understand the context of these metaphors and get to the spiritual messages. That is how we interpreted the entire Shabd as above. This particular verse is NO EXCEPTION. In English we may say SCORES come and DOZENS go. One score is 20. And one dozen is 12. This means whatever is being referred to comes and goes APLENTY. IT DOES NOT mean someone particular came in 1820 and went in 1912!!!! In our everyday language we say SAU AIYE TEY SAU GAYEY. SAU is one hundred. Or TEREY VARGEY KAYEE HAZAAR DEKHEY. Or TEREY VARGEY CHATEE (36) AIYEY. These numbers are used idiomatically to portray unspecific multitudes. The shabd uses the numbers BOTH idiomatically to portray MULTITIDES and poetically to be within the poetic confines of the verses before and after. ਆਵਨਿ ਅਠਤਰੈ ਜਾਨਿ ਸਤਾਨਵੈ ਹੋਰੁ ਭੀ ਉਠਸੀ ਮਰਦ ਕਾ ਚੇਲਾ ॥ Avan Athathrey Jaan Satanvey Hor Bhee Uthsee Marad Ka Chela. Avan – Coming. Athathrey – 78, metaphor for unspecified multiples. Jaan – Goes. Satanvey – 97; metaphor for unspecific multiples. Hor – More, Many, Others. Bhee – Also. Uthsee – Raise, Come to the forefront. Marad – Male, Masculine. Chela – Disciple, Follower, Believer, Worshipper. Unspecified Multiples Will Come and Multiple More Will Depart as Worshippers of Masculine Prowess. (Yet the Hukm of the Creator Will Remain as Permanent). " To me, this just sums up the clutching of straws to build up a straw man argument. Using a specific non rounded number is NOT part of everyday talk. We use, and indeed Gurbani uses numbers like a hundred, thousands, and lakhs etc. But it never uses numbers like 78, 97, 146, 2685, 743872 etc. Using rounded numbers to portray a particular aspect or point is normal in any language. But to try and use "78" and "97" for unspecified numbers is just nonsensical. But those rats like that admin aman on SPN live for this kind of nonsense. The great doctor then ends with some of his musings on what gurbani should be with : "COMMENT ON THE NOTION OF SARAB SANJHEE BANEE. When we say Gurbanee is NEVER occasion, location, time or person specific – we are saying the messages are NOT meant for a particular location, occasion, time or individual. We are saying ALL of Gurbani is meant for ALL of humanity for ALL times." Again this is not bourne out by the inclusion of Ramkali Sadd. Although there is great teachings in that shabad for the benefit of humankind, there is no denying that the writing was an occasion and person specific event. I wonder why it is, that these PHD's and ilk feel that there is a need to distort each and every aspect of Gurmat to their own particular thoughts. We had Angy on here some months ago doing it, and they have no shame in doing it.
  6. 3 points
    Soulfinder

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

    Here is a app i found for Sri Sarbloh Granth Sahib Ji on google app store. Here is the screenshot i took
  7. 3 points
    akali dilsidak singh

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

    Here i m posting some pictures of the gutka sahib
  8. 3 points
    akali dilsidak singh

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

    No veer ji sarbloh baanis are now being published seperately you can get these pothis from tarna dal gurmat vidyala in chabba pind
  9. 3 points
    jaikaara

    Durga Kavach

    i am trying find veer , will let you know
  10. 2 points
    You are right. gurbani is highly repetitive. Majority of Gurbani is highly repetitive after Mool Mantar. I like to think of Gurbani replicating life. Everyday we repeat the same things, usually in the same order. Gurbani is repetitive like this.
  11. 2 points
    Low-carb diets could reduce diabetes, heart disease and stroke risk even if people DON'T lose weight by cutting down on bread, potatoes and pasta Researchers at Ohio State University tested low-carb diets on 16 people Weight loss was thought to be what caused the health benefits of diet changes But people's blood fat and cholesterol levels reduced during a low-carb diet And metabolic syndrome was stopped in more than half of people taking part https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7162631/Low-carb-diets-reduce-diabetes-heart-disease-stroke-risk-people-DONT-lose-weight.html
  12. 2 points
    On the face of it, this seems like a straightforward love story, just as the legend is. Two people who couldn't live without each other prefered to take the risk of separation in the afterlife rather than suffer separation in this life. Two things made me a little curious. One is that ranjha is in truth, the son of royalty, yet because of events over which he had no control he was left as a shepherd in a jat family. I'm not sure what bearing this has on the overall story. Maybe it could be as history has often shown - paupers elevated to kingship and vice versa. That nothing is guaranteed in life. The other thing was wasn't it more than a little unfair that the Upsara was given a curse over something she had little control over? It wasn't Menaka who lost control but Kapil Muni. Why should he then blame her for his loss of control? Could it be because he was a Brahman/Rishi whereas she was only an apsara? (A dancer in Indar-lok). In the end I was left with the notion of how true love doesn't conquer all, but is still very powerful indeed.
  13. 2 points
    chatanga1

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

    Thanks for this bro. I wil download it and take laha from it as well.
  14. 2 points
    This is a long charitar which takes in all themes so far covered in Sri CharitoPakhyan Granth but moreso the root story. I see 3 parts to this charitar. The first where there is a loving Queen who is loyal and concerned about the King and the Kingdom. her prayer and devotion towards the Devi results in the saving of and continuation of the dynasty. The King in turn reciprocates the feelings and love and from this love a Prince is born. Then this Prince, or now as it is, the King, Rasalu, plays a game of dice, which is what "ਚੌਸਰ" is, not chess. Rasalu defeats King Sir Kop and takes his daughter as a prize. This daughter, Kokila is in time consumed by lust that she takes a paramour behind the King's back, which in time he comes to know of, and in quite a brutal ending to the story, kills the paramour and feeds his flesh to the Queen. Before Rasalu does this, however we that Kokila kills the Myna bird who was threatening to expose her, and then the parrot feigning loyalty to Kokila, used it as a ruse to escape. The Queen then kills herself and the King feeds both of them to dogs. It was quite an degrading end to their existence by doing this. To me it seems more like a summary of the root story and some subsequent charitars. I did a search of Raja Rasalu and came across this : https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/ift/ift20.htm It is a necessary read it you have read the Charitar, as you will see the closeness of the original tale and the charitar. I wasn't aware that an incident in Raja Rasalu's story is one I have heard before, in saving the kittens from the potters fire. I sure there is an equivalent story of this in Sikh history with Budhu da awa, where some new born kittens were in the furnace and Budhu did ardas that the may be saved.
  15. 2 points
    tva prasad

    Sikhs vs ISIS (video)

    Yes, I agree with you. It is a very sad reality, indeed. Sometimes, the best we can do is bring about awareness, but people believe what they want to believe. As I gain more and more experience, the more I realise how helpless we are as individuals, sometimes. We are forced to witness all these horrible acts and can do nothing about them. The corrupt rule, the masses follow like sheep, revering them as if they are superhuman. People who oppose the corrupt rule are looked down upon. Yes, I agree regarding the Huddersfield grooming case- these people who represent the community don't care at all. It's utterly disgusting! We, as a community are experts at ignoring such sensitive issues. I agree with you on your last point as well. An inferiority complex among our people is quite a problem. Would you put strict parenting or a lack thereof into the equation as well? I've seen kids in relationships without their parents having a single clue about it. It's heartbreaking to see the types of things kids get to behind their parents' backs, including drugs and stuff. But yes, keeping up with the times and trying to look cool has certainly taken a backseat to morals and family among our youth. It's detrimental to our future as they are our future. I think the best thing our community can do is focus on the youth, before it's too late.
  16. 2 points
    That is only in their recent history and even then it wasn't well coordinated, and mutual suspicion was rife even when fighting the soviets. The country we know as afghanistan today was only created around 1890. Before that the British and Russians agreed on their empire borders, leaving between them the Kingdom of Kabul (afghanistan), Hazarajat and the Khanate of Mazar e sharif around the 1860s. Kabul was a Pashtun kingdom, Hazarajat was Hazaras, and Mazar i sharif were turkmen. Kabul pushed into these smaller weaker areas and took over and incorporated them in the Kingdom of Kabul, known as Afghanistan. These are different ethnicities although all muslim. This is where they differ from the Misls. The Pashtuns simply cannot see any other ethnicity hold power in Kabul and the others are worried about what Pashtun hegemony will mean for them. Whilst they were fighting the Soviets and then the Afghan communist govt they were still fighting against each other on their ethnic basis. On the few times they coordinated plans of action, one of the groups would sit back and let the others get massacred by the Soviets/Afghan govt. Sikhs have managed to live in this society because of their major capacity as traders. They have never joined sides and never taken to arm to defend themselves either.
  17. 2 points
    I guess it could probably be his intention to point out the lack of Sikhi knowledge by many Sikhs today hence he omitted the ones that answered correctly. Just my 0.2.
  18. 2 points
    Dhan Guru Nanak Tuhi Nirankaar & Dhan Sri Bhagat Kabir Ji Maharaj, June 17.
  19. 2 points
    Seems like Dakter Ji Phd(Boseton) gets his translations from Bollywood hindi movies.
  20. 2 points
    This is another shabad that has come on the Sick Parasite Network, written by a learned doctor of that site - "Dr Karminder Dhillon." He is a great inspiration to his pet rat aman, who is an admin on that site, and is always looking to host his mentors thoughts on that forum. I want to have a look at some of this great doctors thoughts and add my own thoughts to it. I will be posting the great doctors thoughts in black and my own in blue so readers can distinguish. Dr Karminder starts by saying " Shabd is composed by Guru Nanak ji in Tilang Rag and is recorded on page 722 of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji." This Shabd stands high on the list of “wrongly translated Shabds." I always wonder how did the Panth manage to follow the wrong translations for centuries until Sikhs of Dr karminders calibre were born to take us out of the darkness and into the light. The Shabd is further (wrongly) described as “Babbur Vanee” by many translators. Babbur Vanee means it is composed for and narrated to Mogul conqueror Babur. Babur Vanee further means it predicts the end of the Mogul rule in India. - Babar Bani is just an informal title given to it, to distinguish it from the other shabads. When we hear the name "Babar Bani" then we understand it to be talking about this particular shabad. That is all. There is no conspiracy. Just as the "Lavan" shabads haven't been given the title of "Lavan Bani" but whenever we talk about the "Lavan" it is clearly understood that we are talking about which shabads. Similarly there are many shabads by Guru Nanak Dev Ji which are addressed with the word "Vanjara" in them. These also are not titled "Vanjara banis" but we understand them to be about the Vanjara shabads of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. You can see from the above thoughts of the great doctor, the depth of intellect, and the reasons why he is has god-like status on Sick Parasite Network. Then the great doctor goes on to write "Gurbani is Sarab Sanji; by which is meant it is NEVER occasion, location, era or person specific. This means that while Gurbani is always composed at some location, may be composed to draw from specific occasions, and may be uttered in the presence of person or persons – the composition is NEVER MEANT for any specific location, any particular occasion or for a certain person(s). ALL of Gurbani is composed for use in ALL locations, ALL occasions, ALL eras and ALL persons. Gurbani is spiritual in nature and meant for the WHOLE of humanity throughout time. Specifying Gurbani for specific locations, occasions and person(s) is a human failing. It arises from our failure to explore the true spiritual messages of Gurbani. It originates out of our folly of wanting to understand Gurbani only in the literal sense." Here is the doctor is partially correct. Gurbani is spiritual in nature and meant for the whole of humanity throughout time. However Gurbani is not restricted from, neither does it abandon the "uthanka" or background to such writings. Gurbani has many levels, and the historical aspect of Gurbani is also valid. Coming back on the great doctors thought that Gurbani is never occasion, location era or person specific, I would like to bring these lines of shabads to the reader so they can see if doctor karminder is correct.: ਫਰੀਦਾ ਪੰਖ ਪਰਾਹੁਣੀ ਦੁਨੀ ਸੁਹਾਵਾ ਬਾਗੁ ॥ Bhagat Farid Ji Maharaj bani starts a lot with "Farida" where he is telling/educating himself. Did BHagat Ji tell these with others in mind? Possibly but the immediate instruction is to himself. So in the first instance this gurbani and many others of Bhagat Ji are person specific. But when we read them are WE telling Bhagat Farid what he must do, in order to find God?" ਆਸਾ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ Aasaa, Fifth Mehla: ਪ੍ਰਥਮੇ ਮਤਾ ਜਿ ਪਤ੍ਰੀ ਚਲਾਵਉ ॥ First, they advised me to send a letter. ਦੁਤੀਏ ਮਤਾ ਦੁਇ ਮਾਨੁਖ ਪਹੁਚਾਵਉ ॥ Second, they advised me to send two men. ਤ੍ਰਿਤੀਏ ਮਤਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਰਉ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥ Third, they advised me to make the effort and do something. ਮੈ ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤੁਹੀ ਧਿਆਇਆ ॥੧॥ But I have renounced everything, and I meditate only on You, God. ||1|| This shabad by Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj is person specific. Which Sikh who has read this shabad sent a letter and then subsequently two men? To whom did he send them? ਕਹਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਤਿਲੋਚਨ ਬਾਲਕੁ ਪਾਲਨ ਪਉਢੀਅਲੇ ॥ Says Naam Dayv, listen, O Trilochan: the child is laid down in the cradle. ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਕਾਜ ਬਿਰੂਧੀ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਬਾਰਿਕ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ ॥੪॥੧॥ Its mother is at work, inside and outside, but she holds her child in her thoughts. ||4||1|| Here Bhagat Ji is addressing Bhagat Trilochan directly. It's still a lesson that we as humans use, but the fact is that it is not addressed to us all at that specific time. It was specifically to one person. ਮੇਰੇ ਸਿਖ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਪੁਤ ਭਾਈਹੋ ਮੇਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਭਾਣਾ ਆਉ ਮੈ ਪਾਸਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ Listen O my Sikhs, my children and Siblings of Destiny; it is my Lord's Will that I must now go to Him. ਹਰਿ ਭਾਣਾ ਗੁਰ ਭਾਇਆ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਕਰੇ ਸਾਬਾਸਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ The Guru gladly accepted the Lord's Will, and my Lord God applauded Him. So when we read the above lines from Ramkali Sadd, are we assuming the title and rank of Guru? Or is it Sunder saying it for a specific moment in the Guru's Life? From the above few lines it is apparent that Gurbani does not share Doctor karminders views of what gurbani should be.
  21. 2 points
    they are sympathizers of the commie mentality and supporters of Rozana Spokesman, i have spent a few years on their forum only to be blocked time and again.
  22. 2 points
    dalsingh101

    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    Good on you. I think non traditional teaching methods are better than the traditional ones myself.
  23. 2 points
    dalsingh101

    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    I think often the quality of the teaching is what puts people off or hinders them. Do consider trying again, but maybe approach the task in a different way than before. If you can already speak/pronounce words in Panjabi, at least a third of the work is done already.
  24. 2 points
    dalsingh101

    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    Veera, have you ever thought of learning Gurmukhi? Or tried? It's well worth the effort in my opinion. I know it isn't easy all the time though.
  25. 2 points
    Soulfinder

    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    Veer ji i am glad to help. Doing ardas is really easy i myself can't read or write in punjabi but i know it off by heart as the opening of ardas is from chandi di vaar which i have been reading for over 3 years. Here is a english roman script of ardas and hopefuly you can start learning it using a audio from youtube and repeating the words the same way i did with my paaths banis etc. https://www.learnreligions.com/ardas-with-original-gurmukhi-and-english-translation-2993121
  26. 2 points
    well done. Practice rom rom technique as suggested in following posts. You are heading in the right direction.
  27. 2 points
    chatanga1

    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    Bro, having never been an addict of such I can't offer such advice but I want to ask whether you have ever considered hypnotherapy? On Youtube it seems that it has worked for some people.
  28. 2 points
    Ok bro I'll try... Dr. Karminder Singh Dhillion Phd(Boston) then further writes about the whole shabad and towards the end says : "TWELVETH VERSE ਆਵਨਿ ਅਠਤਰੈ ਜਾਨਿ ਸਤਾਨਵੈ ਹੋਰੁ ਭੀ ਉਠਸੀ ਮਰਦ ਕਾ ਚੇਲਾ ॥ Avan Athathrey Jaan Satanvey Hor Bhee Uthsee Marad Ka Chela. Avan – Coming. Athathrey – 78. Jaan – Goes. Satanvey – 97. Hor – More, Many, Others. Bhee – Also. Uthsee – Raise, Come to the forefront. Marad – Male, Masculine, Man-liness. Chela – Disciple, Follower, Subscriber. This is the verse that has been subject to a great deal of wrong translations. A Commentary is therefore necessary to first critique the existing faulty translations. The (wrong) translation is: Coming in seventy-eight (1578 Sammat, 1521 A.D.), they will depart in ninety-seven (1597 Sammat, 1540 A.D.), and then another disciple of man will rise up. (Sant Singh MD D Translation.) Other translators – Prof Sahib Singh, and Manmohan Singh mention Emperor Babur as coming in 1578 and being defeated by Sher Shah Suree in 1597. The Fareedkot Vedic Teeka says “the Moghuls will come in 1578 and go in 1597 and that the “Mard Ka Chela” refers to Guru Gobind Singh ji. COMMENT ONE: All the above translators translate the words ATHUTREY (78) and SATANVEY (97) to mean 1579 and 1597 Bikarmee. How the 15 came to be added is anyone’s guess. Because 15 is NOT mentioned in the Verse, If we want to add 15 on our own, why not 1478 and 1479? Or 1678 and 1679? After “assuming” that 79 and 97 is 1579 and 1597 Sammat respectively the years are then converted by the translators from Bikarmee (Indian calendar) to the western year 1521 and 1540 AD. Then the translators say these are the years Babur came to Saidpur 1521 AD (where the massacre took place) and that Babur WILL GO in 1540 AD." According to the great daktors thinking, the translation including the "15" is wrong. I can't beleive how Boston is handing out PHD willy nilly. I should get one. The text in Gurbani says 78 and 97 but if we are reading or understanding this 5 centuries later we need to add that "15" to know what time period we are talking about. For example, when we talk about partition now, we can just refer to it as 47. As I ask old people "Where you alive in 47?" Everyone knows that this is a direct reference to 1947 because 2047 hasn't happened yet. But in 500 years time will people still refer to it as 47? No, because it will not be clear. They will refer to it as 1947. The commentators on this line of Gurbani have correctly added the 15 to make it clearer for the reader. So the great PHD doctor starts off on a very weak foot here. "SEVEN BASIC things are WRONG with such translations. 1) They show Guru Nanak making a PREDICTION of worldly matters (that Babar or Mogul Raj WILL go in 1540 AD). Our Gurus never do such. Predicting the future is not a Gurmat Principle." Predicting the future for a Sikh is not gurmat principle, but for the Guru it is no effort. Guru Sahib has correctly told of the going of (end of) the moghals. So given that this shabad is focused entirely on an actual historical event, seen in the first person by the Guru, and written about factually by the Guru, it is unable to be refuted by the great PHD doctor karminder that it is against gurmat principles. We Sikhs are not the same as the Guru. Guru Gobind Singh Ji drew his sword and asked for 5 heads. Why don't Sikhs do that same thing now when doing khande ki pahul sinchar? Simple. We are Sikhs, the Guru is the Guru. "2) Such translations make spiritually rich Gurbani into a ocassion specific “historical” narrative. This is never the nature of Gurbani. Gurbani is SARAB SANJHEE – for ALL ocassion, all persons, all locations etc. Most importantly Gurbani is spiritual." This has been answered above in the composition of Ramkali Sadd. Ramkali Sadd IS a specific historical narrative. So it is very apparent that Doctor Karminder Dhillon PHD Boston is wrong. The majority of Gurbani is spiritual but not all. "3) Such translations portray Guru Nanak as inconsistent. The translator says Guru Nanak depicts the “CRUELTY of Babur to innocent women and children” and YET calls BABUR as a MARD !! How is Babur an invader a MARD? And whose CHELA? What’s so MARD about massacring innocent people?" Mard in persian means "man." That is all. Guru Sahib describes Babar as a man. Nothing else regarding his military prowess, personal habits, political standing etc. Chela means follower. All Guru Sahib is stating here is that one of Babar's followers will take his place. "4) Such translations makes it seem that Guru Nanak got his history wrong !!! Babur entered India in 1526 AD. The battle of Panipat took place in 1526. That’s the year he becomes emperor. So the massacre in Saidpur was AFTER 1526. The year 1521 AD for ATHUTREY by the translator is off by 5 years! How could Guru Nanak have made this mistake? Babur died on Dec 26 1530. So the year 1540 AD for ATHANVEY (the year Babur left Saidpur !!) is off by 10 years!! He was already in his grave." The first thing to note here is the Gurbani mentions no names. The line is " ਆਵਨਿ ਅਠਤਰੈ ਜਾਨਿ ਸਤਾਨਵੈ ਹੋਰੁ ਭੀ ਉਠਸੀ ਮਰਦ ਕਾ ਚੇਲਾ ." There is no reference to Babar in name but as the shabad tells us the "wedding party" came from Khorasan at the same time Babar did, we know it is refering to Babur and his Mongol army. All the Gurbani tells us is that "they came in 78 (1521) and will return in 1540. So this has nothing to do with the lifetime of Babur itself. That is a very important thing to note here. This is where the PHD Boston of Karminder Dhillon has erred. Babur actually entered Panjab way before in 1519 according to his autobiography. He scored victories and took some land but then had to return to Kabul to quell a rebellion there. His meagre force left in Panjab was then defeated in an uprising. He re-entered Panjab in 1521. The sacking of Saidpur was in 1526. It could hardly be called a battle. There was feeble or no resistance at all. Babur had used Saidpur as a warning to those who stood in his way. he made an example of Saipur to show the rulers of Hindustan his ruthlessness.
  29. 2 points
    Veerji, I would like to humbly put my palms together and make a 'benti' to you to please use the great dakters full name which is Dr. Karminder Singh Dhillon Phd(Boston) so as to not hurt his fragile ego when he reads this.
  30. 2 points
    Yes I did a few weeks ago
  31. 2 points
    dalsingh101

    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    Good to hear brother! Don't worry about trying to 'silence' the mind. Just let the thoughts waft away without getting behind them.
  32. 2 points
    Jageera

    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. June the 2nd was my 200th day of quitting alcohol and cigarettes.Still carrying on.Think about it daily but I refuse to succumb to temptation. I find it tough as I'm having high stress levels this past month.Having flashes of memory of me drinking.Suddenly getting taste of beer or whisky in my mouth.Sometimes I get the taste and smell of cigarettes.It comes and goes. Mind is playing tricks on me.I believe that my determination not to go back being a drunk and smoker is keeping me away from these intoxicants.Taking it step by step,day by day. Prayer wise,lots of noise in my head while doing paath.Before my mind was less noisy but now its gone real bad.Whole while I'm reading Japji Sahib my mind is active with thoughts and comments etc.Sometimes the thoughts are negative and filled with anger.Don't know why. I've given up trying to silence my mind. Will update again in another 100 days.
  33. 2 points
    . Dhan Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj Sache Patshah Ji, June 7.
  34. 2 points
    Mandeep2020

    Durga Kavach

    Need Durga Kavach on PDF
  35. 2 points
    Mandeep2020

    Durga Kavach

    Veer ji
  36. 2 points
    What we don't have is unity and social network to give birth to many successful business people in our community. We are too busy stepping on each others head instead of dragging each other up,especially those who have the drive and know how to do so. Having billionairres is not a must,but no doubt it is a huge advantage,especially Gursikh dasvandh giving and job creating billionairres. Instead the community can contribute monthly dasvandh to a national level financial institution created specifically to uplift and protect the Sikh community.This institution will invest money and try to make a profit. The profit will be used to fund social efforts such as charity,education,health,business loans/training,social issues(single mothers,addiction,domestic abuse etc) and a portion of yearly profits earned would be reinvested to grow the fund. A portion will be used to protect the community and tackle grooming and other crimes.Funds from here can be used for lobbying and political activism and raising awareness on issues faced by the community through different types of media,traditional and new media. No,we would just end up as cannon fodder fighting other peoples war just to receive a miserable salary and some shiny medals.Training and knowledge is a must and it can be achieved in many ways without being a permanent servant of NATO'S international Military-Industrial-Complex.This will just make many communities hate us for joining tyrannical military forces to oppress them and invading their countries. Take land where exactly?
  37. 2 points
    Jageera

    Sikhs vs ISIS (video)

  38. 2 points
    jaikaara

    Durga Kavach

    thanks bro , i did that on friday however this is a scanned copy so cant search
  39. 2 points
    jaikaara

    Durga Kavach

    Veer i have tried different websites , i think i need to dig more, i have read somewhere..but now i cannot recollect
  40. 2 points
    dalsingh101

    Sikhs vs ISIS (video)

    I agree that widespread mentalities are a root cause of this. And it is 'respectable' people in positions that the ahhm junta look up to, that cowardly turn a blind eye, or underplay what goes on. I mean look at that Huddersfield grooming case where one of the leaders of the groomers (Dhaliwal) had a grandfather that was a Gurdwara pardaan. If all the stuff about gorian being groomed didn't blow up - I still believe most of our 'respectable' elders would still pretend this doesn't happen to us on the scale it does. I get a feeling they would rather this all blew away so they can get on with the usual rubbish they get up to. I think some subtle but deep- rooted insecurity about poverty amongst our lot plays a part too btw. They are so obsessed with appearing a certain way and keeping up with the Jones, that they blind themselves to serious family security measures as a consequence.
  41. 2 points
    akali dilsidak singh

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

    Sri bhavani ustat is already uploaded veerji kavach v uploaded ne is hi thread ch i'll try to upload rest of the sarbloh baani i have .i think sarbloh baani app is under development You can meet them in chaauni only they have their vidyala in bhamboi nangli and chabba. you can get this gutka from nanaksar kaleran i got this gutka from there only
  42. 2 points
    akali dilsidak singh

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

    Hnji veerji it very hard beacuse only one single jathebandi is printing sarbloh baani gutka i.e tarna dal but if you want these gutka sahib you can get it from dalpanth
  43. 2 points
    O... Sorry for the late reply Yes these are good links above. Still try and read the 18, 19 page of this thread only @Luckyveerji has described the things so well Let me paste it for us here. It's too good and has helped me alot Quote Lucky 1,876 Posted April 5, 2014 I was just going to explain my interpretation of Rom Rom simran. It's mentioned quite often in the order of saas graas, saas saas and then rom rom, but very rarely does any mahapursh give any details about it. I get that impression because it is a very practical technique that involves sukham sareer compared to physical, and I assume that most teachers/mahapursh/sant show and demonstrate to an abyhasee only after he is adept in saas graas and saas saas. It almost seems as it is kept hush hush and some sant/mahapursh don't reveal to student until x-amount of years have been spent doing the other vidhis/jugtees. I found that I could get a little information from one place and another little idea from another,,,,, so basically, my interpretation is from gathering the little bits and putting them together from varying sources. I must stress that as far as I understand it, one should be doing this only when they know how to maintain or get very close to a steadiness and when they are able to get breath balanced (ie,, via sukhmana channel) Primarily,one has to do more abyhaas to get the nadhis cleansed and stimulated, and when this happens- the sukham sareer properties start coming into play. I won't go into the vidhies of breath balancing or dhyian control for now,but will give you my understanding and how I've been doing the rom rom simran. ROM ROM SIMRAN This is pasanti bhani jap- which is mental,silent and completely from the sukham Mind. and it is antar ghat (completely internal) We are using sukham ears and sukhammouth to jap. (ie,,,sukham gyan and karam indries) It is ALL sukham compared to the Physical breathing manoeuvres/inhalations/tongue use....etc.. in Saas graas & Saas saas However, there is the beginning aspect of trying to feel the pulse or heartbeat, that is classed as physical. But once you master this, then it all becomes sukham. A little point I would like to make is about some confusion for matching breathing with heartbeat - which can no doubt lead to hyperventilation! I really don't think that you should match your breath to heartbeat- since this is ALL sukham. If we start matching physical breath then we are going towards sargun/physical behaviour again. The way I see it is- With simran we progress through the jugtees and techniques by gradually making our surti, dhyian and actions, to move from Sargun to Nirgun. So, if our surti can come out and away from the sargun body, then we move away from the grasps of kaal and his maya dominance. Therefore, we need to make surti/dhyian move from Sargun to Nirgun. (remember- before creation there was just the nirgun shabad and all sargun manifested later. It makes sense to go back home in that reverse order!) As for the rapid breathing technique that can lead to hyperventilation and hypoxia, I am aware that some keertan sangats practice this, but this is not to be confused with heartbeat & rom rom jugtee, or any other jugtee for that matter. Hypoxia or oxygen deprivation from rapid hyperventilation can give someone a good feeling of being lightheaded. I have heard how some of these kirtan sangats(akj) claim to have feelings of divine anand from their fast paced kirtan samagams, but this is nothing much different than the 2 minute high that party students get with nitric 'poppers', because of same oxygen starvation effects. Technique/method 1) 1st quieten and get that steady state where breath is balanced. 2) Try and feel your heart beat by putting the focus into that area 3) If this is difficult, then it may help if- -a) you hold your breath for a few seconds and then try to locate/listen. -b) Or you can instead ,try to feel your pulse on the wrist. 4) Once you find the beat and can follow it's beating rhythm, then putting some more dhyian there should make it more louder and prominent. 5) the anhad naad/dhun should also get more prominent if you have it present. -I usually find that they both get more enhanced at the same time 6) Now, that the heart beating is clear and can be followed, you incorporate and match the gurmantar along with it to begin rom rom. -this itself can be done in 2 ways a) you should be able to identify an ''up'' beat and a ''down'' beat. ...then coincide the Wahe-with-Up, and the Guru-with-Down. OR.. b) when the beat is too fast to differentiate the up/down, then you can match the whole gurmantar with this faster beat. For eg..you are saying waheguru,waheguru,waheguru, without any pause or breaks in wahe-and-guru. With practice, you should eventually be able to locate the heartbeat without touching or feeling any pulse. If you HOLD the breath for a few seconds, then this also make it easier to sense. NEXT, the goal is to put the focus on navel, because when focusing at navel, one can be steady in the sukhmanna channel and trying to rise upwards. The sukhmanna channel runs directly from navel area towards the nijh ghar. (in a straight line along the path of chakras) Before we are born and in the womb, this connection is fully active and intune with waheguru. When the umbilical cord is cut and the first birth breath is taken, that's when the veil layers of maya world start their course. You could also say that the knot to maya is tied after cord is cut/breath is taken in atmosphere. ਮਨ ਰੇ ਪਵਨ ਦ੍ਰਿੜ ਸੁਖਮਨ ਨਾਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Man re pavan ḏariṛ sukẖman nārī. ||1|| rahā▫o. O mind, hold your breath steady within the central channel of the Sushmanaa. ||1||Pause|| It's important to get the steady breath balance before you start rom rom. This steadiness and control comes when there are no thoughts. If any thoughts arise, then the breath balancing goes into either side of Ida or Pingala. That’s why it is called the turbulent ocean (bhavsagar) because we rock from side to side (left to right), or from ida to pingala whilst trying to travel up the nadis and trying to maintain the steadiness in sukhmana throughout. This 2nd stage of rom rom is to focus around navel area and feel the pulse there which is much more sukham. The focus, I believe is not directly at the belly button, but you feel the pulse and rom rom vibration just below it and deeper inside. It is the area called the DHARAN.- which is about 1 inch below and 1 inch inwards. I often find it a little easier to locate this subtle area compared to the heartbeat sometimes. With practice it should become easier and almost instant. The vibrations that I feel there can be Inand Out and so I use the mental Wahe-inand Guru-out, OR sometimes they may be going slightlyup/down at an angle rather than in/out, but I still use the same method and have noticed that the rate of rom rom vibration is practically the same. All the jap is done in complete sukham from the mind, and it can help if you do the internal, mental chant with the inner voice being raised with some power behind it. (as if your enforcing your internal chant) The last check I usually make is to be sure that I am breathing slowly and normally, and not accidentally incorporating the breath into the jap rhythm-which can be very easily done (and then you can end up with the hyperventilating issue explained above). Again, with practice, this will become instant and second nature. This practice takes you on a whole new quest with both mystical and spiritual experiences, that are individual and personally tailored to each of us. You will know that they can't be discussed openly. I can seriously understand why it is of great importance to have the right sangat and experienced gurmukh/mahapursh/sant guidance/advisor to assist you along the encounters at this stage. This is probably the reason to why it has the "hush hush'' factor and doesn't get mentioned too often. Sadly, I'm not in the company of any mahapursh and at certain times I have felt the desperate need to get questions answered. So far, I seemed to have managed using gurbani, certain info sources, practice and of course, Waheguru's blessings. Using the above practice method should eventually make Rom Rom fully manifest/pargat. There are a few nishanees that can help determine if it's pargat in full or not, but I won't go into those here.
  44. 2 points
    akali dilsidak singh

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

    @tva prasad hnji you can add these baani in your daily amritwela nitnem many singhs do this paath daily
  45. 2 points
    akali dilsidak singh

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

    Puraatan ravaita anusar nitnem sundar gutka
  46. 2 points
    Read these two threads
  47. 2 points
    Mandeep2020

    Durga Kavach

    Thank you Veer ji
  48. 2 points
    Jageera

    Sikhs vs ISIS (video)

    I hear what you are saying but doing nothing would be worse than doing something and not succeeding. It will take time and many failures to achieve any significant result.We would really be in trouble when our panth stops trying. The least that we can do as a community would be protecting our young girls from exploitation and sexual grooming, keeping males away from drugs etc and a community support network that protects the community from outside hostility. What is the point of everything else when we are failing at the basics.
  49. 2 points
    tva prasad

    Sikhs vs ISIS (video)

    Not trying to be pessimistic but, if we look at it realistically, it is near impossible. The thing is everyone blames each other and ignore their own faults. I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone on this forum, rather I'm just saying that in general people turn a blind eye to their faults while blaming others for the same. That is where the problem starts. Cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy seem to be rather big issues, in general. I think the world would be a much better place, if instead of ridiculing eachother for faults, we focus on improving ourselves and encouraging eachother to do the same. I believe any solution is ineffective if we aren't willing to change ourselves, first, otherwise we are the biggest problem as we are doing exactly what we are opposing, this is hipocrisy and cognitive dissonance. Understanding and communication is also important among people. Further, people seem to have a rather messed up moral compass. I'm still trying to observe this behaviour. If someone is in a position of authority or in a position recognised as 'holy', people automatically assume that that person is indeed faultless. I think people tend to think in terms of black and white, they don't necessarily know what righteouness is. Righteouness is to oppose corrupt authority not to respect the same. Believe it or not, some people think that respecting authority even if they are corrupt, is morally right compared to opposing them. That is just one example among many that indicates people know not morals. It is indeed a crooked world we live in. All in all, what I wish to say is that people who are major partakers of a problem are often ignorant of their part in the same. They very frequently tend to ignore their own faults. The main thing would be to bring greater awareness on their impact on the problem. This is very hard. People will find it painful to see their own faults, it's like medicine, bitter and detestable but it is the solution. For example, if we take the bangra dancers or the booze gurglers into account, I doubt they will see much wrong with their actions. If they do, it is cognitive dissonance. Therefore, most problems stem from internal feuds or ego.
  50. 2 points
    tva prasad

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

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