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  1. 4 points
    The energy generated from super positive sangat and the cloud of divine spirit around you can certainly kick you up a few notches. I've encountered this a few times and it leaves you feeling elevated without having made too much effort. These sounds should become one, so to say. I think the intentions and pre-conditioning of mind really plays a big role here. I wouldn't advise you continue searching for the same sound again, the bell, chimta, drums etc. I remember that I'd always say to myself "OK, got it,..heard that now.. what next ?" For me, I was able to get through these until they become a single sound. eko naam, eko shabad. It may help if you try and disciple your inner mind in this way. If you can, then it can be very beneficial in your own self-development because you may awaken to the hidden depths of your mann. As I always say; listen, acknowledge and then move on. Don't worry too much about them because they won't go anywhere. You hear them at first, then they fade and become one. You follow that one and then you will hear them again when you are at the darbar. There, they are called panj shabad. Anand sahib bani says "vajay panch shabad tit ghar subhagay" At that stage, you're completely out of Kaal's desh (maya) and in chautha pad. The 5 dhuts will be left outside the door behind you (panj dhut tudh vas kithay kaal kantakh mariya). I said some time ago; the shabads are kind of preliminary, as if heard earlier as nishanees and signs of progress. Sometimes, they call these pavan shabads to differentiate them from the panj shabads that are heard in the darbar as opposed to outside the darbar. as @BhagatSingh suggested above, "stay chill as if it's nothing" I'd probably add, "wait for what's next?" Thunder like "gobind gajay" Lightening like light and then the all cooling rain of amrit. Can be felt on every single rom of your body as if it's raining. Gurbani mentions a few of these "amrit varkhai,.. amrit varsai" shabads. ^^Next time^^ Just let it be and let the experience take your consciousness. Give your mann and mat to satguru. The first time this happened, I had the immediate first 2 lines of the below shabad come into head. "ja-o tao prem khelan ka cha-o, sir dhar tali gali meri a-o". I immediately put my joined hands on my laps as if in open hath-jor mudra pose, akin to giving an offering. Then, visualized/imagined putting all my consciousness/surti to the Guru and let him do whatever. What happened next, was completely out of this realm. ਜਉ ਤਉ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਖੇਲਣ ਕਾ ਚਾਉ ॥ Ja▫o ṯa▫o parem kẖelaṇ kā cẖā▫o. If you desire to play this game of love with Me, ਸਿਰੁ ਧਰਿ ਤਲੀ ਗਲੀ ਮੇਰੀ ਆਉ ॥ Sir ḏẖar ṯalī galī merī ā▫o. then step onto My Path with your head in hand. ਇਤੁ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਪੈਰੁ ਧਰੀਜੈ ॥ Iṯ mārag pair ḏẖarījai. When you place your feet on this Path, ਸਿਰੁ ਦੀਜੈ ਕਾਣਿ ਨ ਕੀਜੈ ॥੨੦॥ Sir ḏījai kāṇ na kījai. ||20|| give Me your head, and do not pay any attention to public opinion. ||20|| I've heard that too or may have seen the same video. I can say, that rom rom makes things much easier and that's why I'm always encouraging it. Some people can get it pargat early on, whereas others get it later.
  2. 4 points
    That's a sign of a good meditation session. Your voice gets deeper as well, and starts resonating from your stomach. That happened to me a few times during sleep. The first couple times, it caught me off guard, and like you, I started questioning it and it ended when I did. The first time I got too scared, the other times the fear went away but the excitement was still there. That excitement was preventing me from Clarifying this experience. But I didn't know that at the time. So it didn't happen for a while, and during that time I found a video by this guy called Rich2150x Rich talked about how when strong turbulent vibrations come, then you have to just stay calm and not get too excited about it and just go "hmm" as if its nothing and simply take note of it in a very detached objective manner. So then when it happened again, I remembered to stay chill as if it was nothing. I stayed calm and chanted Ram. Then something special happened. But what made the vibrational storm manageable was watching it with a non-excited, non-questioning, non-fearful, detached, objective eye. This is also applicable to emotional storms.
  3. 3 points
    Indeed. Any examples? Maybe it is mentioned but not in english translation or something. This reminds me of Shin Zen Young, who talks about this type of meditation a lot. He says you can apply this "identify and clarify" technique to many stimulus, like sights and feelings as well as sound frequencies. You simply try to go in there and break the experience down into smaller mangeable chunks that you can clarify those chunks via your attention (like how Gheo is made by clarifying butter thorugh heat). Your Consciousness acts like heat that clarifies your experience and turns it into gheo. A worldly example - let's say you are angry. You look at the components of the anger, you identify the feelings in your body, the inner dialogue and frustration/exhaustion components. Where is the anger located in your body? Feel it there. Notice your blood coursing through the veins, the energy of the anger present in the body. What other feelings arise with it? Take note of them individually. Is there frustration? What is the quality of that? is there jealousy? What is the quality of that? It is a very powerful to meditate on anger in this way, to purify it into Pure Energy. Bhakti / Shakti 1. Pay attention. 2. Break things down into their fundamental components. 3. Notice the qualities of those components. 4. Refine those qualities by Clarifying them with your Attention. 5. Profit For those who want to know more about this technique or looking for a scientific approach to meditation, I recommend checking out Shin Zen Young's youtube channel called - ExpandContract. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNetIhxFinw It is quite powerful and Guru Nanak Dev ji did make it quite easy. Those who start earning spiritual wealth, once they get over the initial hurdle, they earn more and more with the inspiration that is available in Gurbani, quite easily. What do you mean by this?
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    For all sangat in canada dhadrianwale is coming on june 8-10 at dixie gurduara. I hope most of us on here realize that dhadrianwale is against gurmat and we should do something like protest his arrival.
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    Ok. This sounds all good. Funny thing is that I had these cricket like sounds come twice. They were there in early stages and then re-emerged in later stages. Must have been some blocked energy channels(sukham) that needed re-activating. We all have different areas that need addressing at separate times and that's why people experience sounds in differing patterns. These are also very good and I sort of understand what they are (from my own experiences). It's what they lead to and what can follow along the same path, that is of importance. I can't say much about this on open forum due to a few reasons, but I think I gave some hints in pm not long ago. You should raise your surti(consciousness) by continuing simran to get to next levels. When this happens, you will find more nishanees/avasthas in gurbani. This is always the final verification and re-assurance from guru. As the gurbani rapport builds up "Guru maneyo granth" starts becoming apparent. If I don't find my answer in gurbani, then I know my experience wasn't part of the path or avastha. This takes practice and it's certainly possible. As @BhagatSingh veer (below) said above; you can meditate on it. The anhad will be 24/7 when pargat. You can tune into it any time, any place. I practiced a few weeks by using some earplugs and blocking out everything external. I did 2-3 hour sessions, three times per 24hr-day (about 9hr/day total). Session at amrit vela and at least 2 or more sittings during the day. I was able to amp up and start differentiating between the frequencies. You can start identifying several different frequency tones and it will make you appreciate the numerous raags in gurbani. I recommend the "hearos" brand ear plugs, since they were the most comfortable and strong at 33 decibal noise reduction. The ear plugs certainly helped to intensify the shabad during those few weeks. I don't need to use them now unless it's noisy in the house or the street, but the magnitude continues to increase and change. The shabad-dhun is very powerful and its not just a dhun. It can guide you in the most unexplainable ways if you let your self be the chela. Along with gurbani, you will come to realize just how easy Guru Nanak ji made it. Shabad gets your naam pargat and naam itself becomes the shabad. That's your direct passport, visa and flight to get to EK ,..hence Nanak Naam Jahaz hai
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    Thanks, been quite busy with my own schedule. Sounds like the 5 tat colors. An earlier post not long ago by Sat1176 highlighted the Mind and 5 tat maya. Remember that the Mind is born into sukham maya and "eih man panch tat tay janamaa" Let them come, acknowledge, and then move on.. Recommend that you try and listen to this. Try to move attention around the head, left, right, above, behind.. to try and see if you can grab it. OR just try and stay Central, neither left or right. Thoughts are always going to be coming. The key is not to attach to them. That's what a mantra is used for. Its a tool(tra) for the mind(man),.."man-tra" Let the thoughts come and leave themselves. If the thoughts grab away your focus, then us the mantra to try and bring the mind back. You keep doing it until steady and in towards sunn. You've already been in and out of sunn without realizing since you hear the high pitched tones. You should do both. Set your own time allocations and start off by doing simran session with saas saas. This can be anything from seconds to minutes,...until you get to the steady, settled, and calm state. Then go into 'antarghat'-internal jap. Just try and get deeper, and deeper within yourself. Listen to the tone(s), if you can hear them. If they help you get deeper, then use them to do that....and keep going.
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    Bhagat ji, I agree and know exactly what you're saying. My mention of "roop, na rekh, na rang" as per gurbani was tailored to address HisServant's concern and query onmwhether he was en-route to seeing the parkash/presence of brahm everywhere and 3rd eye/drib dristee. There is a difference between what forms and shapes you see as per tre-guna maya and what one can see as they start tearing the veil of illusion (Kiv kurhai tutai pal). I can kinda understand why practitioners warn students about "akaars" and how they can become one's own hurdles. That topic is quite an in depth discussion that would need it's own thread, but in short, and as per my own experiences and obstacles.... @HisServant, is experiencing something quite similar to something I had a few years ago. I went around the long route via my own hindrances, but the main answer was in gurbani all the while...the "shabad". The shabad starts off as very faint, but with time and simran, it gets to higher frequency/vibration and becomes anhad naad. Guru Nanak ji advises the "shabad". the anhad shabad. if you can hear the anhad, which HisServant can,.. then he should put dhyian there to establish the connection and dristee will automatically follow. After Guru nanak ji explained the shabad to the siddhas, (Shabad guru surat dhun chela), he was asked... ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਹੋਤੋ ਰੇਖ ਨ ਕਾਈ ਤਾ ਸਬਦਿ ਕਹਾ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਈ ॥ Rūp na hoṯo rekẖ na kā▫ī ṯā sabaḏ kahā liv lā▫ī. When there was no form or shape, then how could anyone lovingly focus on the Shabad? Remember, that before any akaar, before creation, before duality, before "KAR" as in Ek-Ong-Kar,, Nirnakar was just the EK singularity. The "ong' resided in the un-manifest Almighty. He uttered the "word" and creation was made. (ਕੀਤਾ ਪਸਾਉ ਏਕੋ ਕਵਾਉ, Kīṯā pasā▫o eko kavā▫o.) Guruji says... ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖਿਆ ਜਾਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਤੀ ਤਉ ਅਕੁਲੀਣਿ ਰਹਤਉ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁ ਸਾਰੁ ॥ Rūp na rekẖ▫i▫ā jāṯ na hoṯī ṯa▫o akulīṇ rahṯa▫o sabaḏ so sār. When there was no form or shape or social class, then the Shabad, in its essence, resided in the unmanifest Lord. Therefore, to get back to the singular Ek,.. to remove the 'kurai tutai pal',.. if one can hear the 'shabad', then that's what they need to attune to. To start seeing and connecting with the dristi of seeing brahm in the air around us, you need to tune into the shabad. as advised earlier to HisServant, the important recommendation is
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    paapiman

    Panjabi Vocabulary Builder Thread

    ਚੁਗੁੱਠਾ - Rectangular, Four-cornered Bhul chuk maaf
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    paapiman

    Is Darwin's Theory of Evolution true?

    Bhul chuk maaf
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    Singh123456777

    Top 5 Sikh Granths

    In your opinion saad sangat Ji what granths are in your top 5 other than Sri guru Granth sahib Ji, sri dasam granth etc that you guys recommend for aspiring scholars or kathakaars.
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    paapiman

    Panjabi Vocabulary Builder Thread

    ਹੰਭ - Exhausted, Tired Bhul chuk maaf
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    ਠੁੰਗ - Peck, Dig Bhul chuk maaf
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    He is a good parcharak. He adds a unique next level to sikhi in the west
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    amardeep

    Bhangra/Gidha Vs Sikhism

    The so tankaya verse structures are from the Bhai Chaupa singh rahitnama
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    paapiman

    Dangers of Oversleeping

    Quote People who oversleep can experience a number of side effects as their bodies struggle to sync up with the right time. For example, some research has shown that people who oversleep often complain about headaches throughout the day. Researchers speculate getting too much sleep has an effect on certain neurotransmitters in the brain, especially serotonin. Other potential side effects of oversleeping include lower back pain, stroke, diabetes, and heart disease. Unquote[1] [1] - https://www.medicaldaily.com/oversleeping-just-bad-you-not-getting-enough-sleep-how-find-happy-medium-360336 Bhul chuk maaf
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    I am not sure if you are working closely with @Lucky bhaji's methodology. If you are then that's good, you should probably go with it. But I'll share my thoughts on this, in case it helps you or anyone else reading - What is your goal with meditation? What are you trying to accomplish in the long run? What do you want out of it now? Tomorrow? Next week? Next year? Next 5 years? Think about this seriously. Because it is important to have a goal with things that you want to pursue seriously. If your goal is to try to increase the volume of these sounds, the Shabad sounds, to the point where you can hear them above the volume of Running Water, then put your attention on the sounds as much as possible. Is that what you want to do? Because that is something you can certainly do. I knew a client who could make the Shabad sound really loud, with such high energy. He called it the inner Om. He said he could make it sound louder than the loudest concert. He had reached really high energy states. I have also done meditations with the goal of making these louder by putting my attention in them and amping their volume up. That is something you can meditate on and with. Now... there is a difference between these Shabad sounds, and regular sounds, such as that of Running Water, as @Lucky points out in above post. When you meditate, you pull back from the sounds of the world and then you head these inner sounds. When you stop the monologue running in the mind, then you hear these inner sounds. But ultimately even these Shabad sounds, is also an Experience that Consciousness (Atma/Parmatma) is having, just like your other experience of Running Water sounds or the experience of internal monologue. These Shabad sounds can be called Anhad Shabad because they are Anhad from the perspective of the World. They are An-Had, Un-Struck, they don't have a source in the world. But they are Had, struck, from the perspective of Consciousness. From Absolute Consciousness perspective, they are struck by Absolute Consciousness. They are coming from Consciousness, just like any other sound from the world. So from the perspective from Consciousness, these are not utlimately Anhad. That's why I say that ultimately even these Shabad sounds, is also an Experience that Consciousness is having. Ultimately Consciousness is Anhad because there is nothing prior to it, nothing strikes to create Consciousness. So how do you go from these Shabad sounds to Consciousness (Atma/Parmatma)? How do you listen to the Anhad Shabad that is behind the Anhad Shabad? What I would do in this situation is to try to keep my focus on the space in which the Shabad sounds are arising. Think who is listening to Anhad Shabad, and pay attention to that One, who is the space in which you experience the unstruck sounds.
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    ਰੁਝਾਨ - Propensity, Tendency Bhul chuk maaf
  19. 2 points
    Focus on the light and it should get still. If it doesn't stay steady, it could also be awakening of 3rd eye dristi. Either way, it's most probably the route to see parkash of nirankar. However, you must try and listen to anhad to get the full connection. If all this is happening whilst you are trying rom rom technique, then it's real good. It may all fall into place in an instant. Must continue working and slogging at it with prem. Shouldn't really be a shape or figure. Roop, na rekh, na rang. No form, shape or color. Again, if you focus on anhad dhun, it should still the mind further for better connection and dristi.
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    BhagatSingh

    Importance of Kesh (Hair)

    From Suraj Prakash - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਜੀ ਤੁਮ ਪੰਥ ਚਲਾਯੋ ॥ ਬਾਣਾ ਰਚਯੋ ਕੇਸ਼ ਰਖਵਾਯੋ ॥ ਗੁਰੂ ਗਰੀਬ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਬਤਾਵਹੁ ॥ ਕਿਸ ਕਾਰਨ ਕਰਿ ਇਨਹੁਂ ਰਖਾਵਹੁ ॥3॥ Nau Nidh Khatri asks “Shri Prabhu ji, you run this path, you have kept your Hair unshorn. Guru Ji, helper of the poor, tell me, why have you kept long hair?" ਸੁਨਿ ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖ ਫੁਰਮਾਵਨਿ ਕਰਯੋ ॥ ਤੁਮ ਕੋ ਸ਼ਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬਹੁਤ ਬਿਚਰ੍ਯੋ ॥ ਪੜ੍ਹਨ ਸ਼੍ਰਵਨ ਮਹਿਂ ਬੈਸ ਬਿਤਾਈ ॥ ਇਹ ਗਤਿ ਲਖੀ ਕਿ ਨਹਿਂ ਤੁਮ ਪਾਈ ॥4॥ Hearing this Guru Ji said, "You have studied many Shastra, many religious texts. You have spent your life listening and reciting the Shastra, yet you have not come to realize the answer” ਧਰਮ ਰਖਨਿ ਕੇਸ਼ਾਦਿਕ ਭਲੇ ॥ ਸਨਕਾਦਿਕ ਤੇ ਆਵਤਿ ਚਲੇ ॥ ਭਾਰਥ ਖੰਡ ਬਿਖੈ ਸ਼ੁਭ ਦੇਸ਼ ॥ ਕੇਸ਼ ਰਾਖਣੋ ਧਰਮ ਬਿਸ਼ੇਸ਼’ ॥5॥ "Adorning long hair is to keep this dharm, this tradition alive, which was started by Sanak, Sanatan, Sanandana, Sanatkumar, and others. In the land of Bharat dwells a great country, here keeping hair unshorn is an important part of our Dharam." ਸੁਨਿ ਕੈ ਨਉਨਿਧ ਬਹੁਰ ਬਖਾਨਾ ॥ ਆਪ ਕਹਹੁ ਸਭਿ ਸਾਚ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨਾ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਥਮ ਕੇਸ਼ ਧਾਰੀ ਸਭਿ ਕੋਈ ॥ ਅਬਿ ਤੌ ਸਮਾ ਰਹ੍ਯੋ ਨਹਿਂ ਸੋਈ’ ॥6॥ Listening to the answer, Nau Nidh replied, “what you have said is true. In the beginning, everyone used to keep their hair unshorn. However, that time is gone” ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਭਨ੍ਯੋ ‘ਸਮਾ ਕ੍ਯਾ ਕਹੈ ॥ ਸੋ ਰਵਿ ਸੋ ਸਸਿ ਸੋ ਜਲ ਅਹੈ ॥ ਬਾਯੂ ਬੰਨੀ ਬਸੁਧਾ ੳਈ ॥ ਦੋਸ਼ ਸਮੈ ਕੋ ਕ੍ਯਾ ਕਹਿ ਕੋਈ ॥7॥ Guru Ji replied, “What does time have to do with it? The same sun remains, the same moon, water, wind, fire and earth remain. How can anyone blame time?" ਆਪਨ ਆਪ ਕੋ ਦੋਸ਼ ਲਖੀਜੈ । ਰਾਖੇ ਜਾਇਂ ਨ, ਸਾਚ ਕਹੀਜੈ ॥ ਕੇਸ਼ ਰਖਨਿ ਕੀ ਸਮਰਥ ਹੀਨੇ ॥ ਦੋਸ਼ ਸਮੇਂ ਪਰ ਕਲਪਨ ਕੀਨੇ ॥8॥ "Blame yourself and only yourself, speak the truth, you are unable to keep hair. You lack the capability to keep your hair so you blame everything on the time."
  21. 2 points
    ਆਖੇਪ - Censure, Objection Bhul chuk maaf
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    paapiman

    Opinion on Gur Katha

    The 5 Kakkars are mentioned in Gurbani (Sri Dasam Granth). “ The following five K’s are the mark of Sikhi. These five can never be parted from the body. Kara, Kirpan, Kashera, Kangha, recognise these as four of them. The fifth is Kesh, without which the other four are useless. “ Bhul chuk maaf
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    chatanga1

    Found a gem

    Yes it looks like this to me. To dwell, or to live in. Ok, here it is. I haven't read it myself yet though Dal.
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