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  1. 4 points
    Lucky

    Some strange noises

    Good. As Sat says above, these are correct. The jerk/jhatka is from your surti try to leave and connect into sunn. Sometimes, you may get a sudden feel as if you were "falling" downwards or may sense that you kind of tripped to a descent or fell. <<- This is when surti has risen upwards to akash tat or above and wasn't able to get further. It descends back down all of a sudden. There are physiological explanations for all of these on basis of muscle contractions(troponin & tropomysin), movement of ions like Ca and Mg at muscle level and Na, K at neurological ...as you will be aware in medical field.... but the truth is that Sukham actions/subtle behavior ----> leads to physiological changes AND vice versa. Do more saas saas and antarghat simran. The faint sound you hear will start opening up LIsten to this inner voice. Try to identify it. It doesn't come by thinking. It comes from letting go and not using the mann. The mann always calculates to reach a solution for ego. When you step out of this network you can connect to the "aatmic' voice. It takes practice but you begin to understand if decisions/choices are hukam or manmat(mind calculated).
  2. 3 points
    Vaise to it would have been better if @Lucky or @Sat1176 veerji would have answered this for you but ok.. Walking on lucky veerji's steps .. Let me try. But veerji pls stamp it whenever you see this. Sehaj dhunn is the onstep ( door mat) to Naam where you have stepped.. So be happy and feel blessed plus thankful. It exist in everything, everywhere. It's waheguru ji himself. So it had been and will be there always. Now as we sit in sunn it will be our effort towards him say (1-10℅) at that time it will be more clear or change tunes or give vibrations etc but the rest of the time you will hear it whilst your daily regime ( 90℅- his Parshaad) - Remember Satguru kot paenda aage hoye laet hai.. .. Sometimes you will feel vibrations very close to your ears - randomly.. Sometimes you may feel a mosquito kind buzz, or bells and other times you may find him far off - a faint sound. Or gone away altogether. It's like we are starting to learn to walk (a toddler) will fall, then get up, may crawl or hold something and try again - that way As you will reach closer the dhun will keep getting sharper, clearer turn to beats, jazz,, vibrating music - naad, tur etc. Let's walk learn, wait, hold hands and pray for it together like satsangi sehaliya.. Waheguru ji will surely Bless - the way he is( apna birad samaaley)
  3. 3 points
    Mooorakh

    Some strange noises

    ☺Happy for you! Keep going
  4. 3 points
    Sat1176

    Some strange noises

    Both your experiences are correct. When the mind becomes still and concentrated it tries to enter Sunn, but we don't have practice of going to sunn ourselves through guided meditation and sometimes a jerk is experienced. It will pass. Yes the dhun occurs when mind is concentrating, listen to it. Give it some attention at that time if you can. Your becoming more aware of it. It will start to remain longer. Glad you had a chat with Bhai Dharamjit Singh. Very nice Gurmukh.
  5. 3 points
    Soulfinder

    Why "Namdhari" is Not Sikhs?

    Veer ji i have made a post on this subject and here is the link But i will add it again what dass posted as it was by Sri Maan Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindrawale Veer ji here is Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa view on them at 01:15 and 2:45 onwards are the namdhari mentions Veer ji here is another really good view by Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindrawale. Everyone must listen at 5:20 onwards as this is worth listening. http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/01_Puratan_Katha/Sant_Jarnail_Singh_(Bhindran_wale)/Sant.Jarnail.Singh.(Bhindra.wale)--Sukhmani.Sahib.Da.Parchar.mp3
  6. 2 points
    Sat1176

    Coronavirus - Covid 19

    I am definitely concerned about this pandemic. I worry about our child and elderly parents. https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/science-and-technology/2020/03/these-underlying-conditions-make-coronavirus-more-severe-and-theyre?fbclid=IwAR0NWWJKCi4FNBUTC-aHAzd9HMDJ92STX0Lcw1EhCY4UADWnGbsGRI1JN9k There is a serious lack of information coming out uk government. They don't have the infrastructure to cope so have stopped testing most people. Everyone must assume they have it if they exhibit symptoms. This is a complete joke.
  7. 2 points
    Mirza Raja Jai Singh paying homage to Guru Harkrishan, Late Mughal school, circa 1740-50, National Museum, New Delhi.
  8. 2 points
    When your'e on a role, you should really make the most of it. Just keep persevering and don't cast too many doubts in the mind. Good job, I'm glad that you never gave up in the past.
  9. 2 points
    Thanks @Mooorakh penji You explained it beautifully, it makes sense. Its present throughout the day but intensity keeps going up and down. Wahgeuru! Baba ji sarean te kirpa karn including this keet . @Lucky thanks veer ji you know these little confirmations from you guys help me so much, you guys have no idea. Waheguru.
  10. 2 points
    Yes, as @Mooorakh has mentioned above. Keep going ..... let it's intensity increase. Whilst connected to pavan this is what happens as it becomes 24/7.
  11. 2 points
    dalsingh101

    Coronavirus - Covid 19

    Just reread through this thread and I'm glad I did, because it reminded me to try and following my own advice within. Lockdown can be tough mentally. Have to keep spirits up in various ways, keep busy. Keep intellectually active too. Relaxed too! Which isn't easy sometimes. Simran absolutely, most definitely helps, and might even be one of the key ways of coping/stress management for some. Personally speaking, I think that those who have had some experience and regular practice with naam simran most certainly will benefit from the aspect of stilling of the mind, and allowing thought flows to dissipate. Spoke to younger relative who feels they have had the virus symptoms for the past 10/12 days. Some of the early symptoms he described are ones we would have heard about. But he said that the first noticeable symptom was an increase in fever (not a cough). This virus seems to present itself in a variety of ways in people - which maybe shouldn't be too much of a shock given the obvious biological uniquenesses between us - including our immune system functioning. Also, we would do well to remember that viruses mutate which could also help explain differences in observed symptoms. Nephew told me he's felt better in the last 2 days, although deep breathing is difficult if not impossible. After his symptoms started, an increase in coughing and phlegm took place. The breathing difficulties often increased to debilitating bouts where people may have to seriously confront their own mortality. His suggested strategy for coping mainly involved keeping the air passages decongested, addhak (ginger) chaa with nimbhu (lemon) and honey lots of hot drinks advised. Paracetamol too. His diet would be solely vegetarian at the moment, and no alcohol. My dharam. My shardaa. Let my chit just be solely focused on that - because, if I believe: what more have I got to carry me over this world ocean and through to the next. Dukh daru sukh rog.
  12. 2 points
    One more thing I would like to add in this beautiful thread is that, be it any Brahmgyani of any time, past, present or future, they meet or give darshan to those only who are mentioned to Them by Waheguru Akal Purukh. Nobody can ever do anything by their own will, it is all Waheguru´s Hukum. This we have to bear in mind, be it Guru Sahiban, be it Sant Jan, be it Gurmukhs, be it Bhagat Jan.... all act under the Hukum of Waheguru. Then also, related to this topic, I read sometime ago, that Brahmgyanis are like someone standing on top of the hill at night, from where they can see the houses down there which have the lights switched on, thus those are the ones they go to visit or arrange in someway to meet them and give them whatever Waheguru´s hukum is for them. Having said that, none of us know where or who is a Brahmgyani, for not knowing, we don´t even know what is going on in our next room, so how to look for that Brahmgyani? Nevertheless, there is still an option left for us by His grace, and that is to switch on the light of His Nam within us, by meditating on His sachaa Nao, as seen throughout the Bani. Who knows, when that Brahmgyani sees that the Jot of His Nam is lit within us through the Jaap of it from the top of the hill, thus arrange accordingly to meet Them. Brahmgyanis need not like us to go physically anywhere, for them the whole "kaynat" is an open book, right from Sach Khand to Patal Lok, nothing is hidden from them, thus they see the Jot in those beings from anywhere thery maybe, and know that they have an order for that jeeva from Akal Purukh to be delivered Physicall darshan of Them is lovely, is most beautiful, is most valuable, is balhaar, but their real darshan is the one of Their spiritual form. What mahima to sing of Their physical darshan? Not everybody values it. For example, Prithi Chand had Akal Purukh as his father, and another form of Akal Purukh as his brother, but inspite of living under the same roof and having Their physical darshan 24 x 7 , he did not recognize the reality of Them, thus remained wicked as he was . It is by having the spiritual darshan of Them, that one stops commiting nonsense, for then, there is quite some spiritual purity in us by Their grace, thus be able to have Their darshan. SSA.
  13. 2 points
    Used to love reading these as a youngster! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8146813/Asterix-Obelix-creator-Albert-Uderzo-dies-sleep-aged-92.html
  14. 2 points
    Ragmaala

    Sleep during meditation

    Oh no penji lol Thats good you are doing better. I also have a sore throat since 3-4 days but Maharaj is doing kirpa and it will get better. As per Bhai Simranjeet Singh Tohana, saas giras increases Brahma Agni and that builds up our immunity. He posted a video regarding this. But given my sore throat I have been unable to follow this
  15. 2 points
  16. 2 points
    It's a loaded 'question' veerji. Doesn't deserve an answer from you. The provocateur is not interested in any answer.It's aim is to prove there's no such word as 'Sikh' and we all are hindus. He tried this same trick in the Namdhari thread. You can show it all the sources and proof but it will not accept as only it is true and we all are fools. Just a heads up for you veerji.
  17. 2 points
    If we don't follow shaster/ashter aspects of our dharam, expect more of this. Even if we do what I'm suggesting, we'll still have this, the only difference will be the opportunity to die like men and not sitting, pacifist ducks.
  18. 2 points
    Veer ji you could try the youtube page for Basics Of Sikhi and Gurmatbibek to find out as i do remember the Late Bhai Jugraj Singh Ji did cover a lot of these questions in his videos.
  19. 2 points
    @harsharan000very nice posts and threads veer ji keep posting to help lift the mood for the cyber sangat on here.
  20. 2 points
    I'm okay bhai ji. I had 'experiences' when I was younger that sort of make lock downs no problem for me. lol It's a good idea to pick something and develop your skills in the time you are locked down - not least of all for your sanity. Try and make it a productive time. It doesn't have to be all negative. Do more training (or start if you don't), try some new stuff like yoga/stretching/recipes. If you are lucky to have a garden - use it. Keep your head up!!
  21. 2 points
    Yes it is a meme of Corona virus. And you query of my whereabout, well bro, I am in the same boat as rest of the world, which means cofined at home, which is necessary for one's security, as well as for our family members at home. We need a lot of patience and mentalization to go through this difficult phase, which by His grace shall hopefully pass away too. Hope you are fine also. SSA.
  22. 2 points
    I think we should differentiate between having a desire for someone else's women, and having a desire for your own spouse. To equate the two is a big error in my opinion. Thing with marriage is that it is a two way thing. It's all well and good if one side wants to be a celibate, but what if the other half doesn't? Is it fair to spring such majorly life changing things on another unexpected? Plus, bhai ji, since I read DG and learnt that Ramchandar Ji may have started the conflict by chopping off Ravan's sister's nose, when she flirted with him, I've always been a bit reserved on perceiving Ravan as some 'bad guy' in some binary style conception i.e. Ramchandar = Good; Ravan = Bad. I agree that kaam vaasna is one of the strongest (if not thee strongest!) vikaars though.
  23. 2 points
    Lucky

    Some strange noises

    sounds good! Yes, this could be vascular/pulsatile tinnitus phenomena as you say and it could also be coming from jugular-carotid area (what Dr. told me) However, you're only beginning to hear it since you are internalizing more. I've never been too sure because I was also told that they were pavan-shabads. Now, the same type of shabads manifest and repeat themselves later in sunn as anhad. References in gurbani for "chauri" fly-brush will give some clues. At this stage, I wouldn't get too wrapped up on whether they are physiological sounds or pavan shabads. Maybe a bit of both? just keep attention on jap and shabad and get prep'd for drinking amrit ras. Many sounds are heard between pavan shabads(as per chakras) and akash tat. As you ascend and go past the akasj tat you have to break through a barrier called "dhaval". This is akin to earth's outer surface at which gravity acts. Goal is to keep going and break past this into the sunn. For now, you are hearing faint shabad, and the more you go antarghat, the closer you'll start to get. The frequencies will change until you are at a stage when it is 24/7. Good efforts are leading to kirpa. Keep going!
  24. 2 points
    Exactly!! Thats what I am hearing too , but its way subtler than the one in video. Hope my journey continues to grow Its been a long time... I am going through this thread from the beginning, so many subtle things starting to make sense now.
  25. 2 points
    Ragmaala

    Some strange noises

    I am sharing some more maybe someone had similar experiences. Last night I became aware during dreaming. The details are very blurry. I felt these sensation of vibration and sounds , cant really explain. Also felt sensation of numbness and tingling in body and arms. These sensations were neither pleasurable nor painful, just there. There was a feeling of a little vulnerability. I don’t remember the rest. I have been paying more attention to my ears. I have also noticed a whooshing sound in ears that coincides with pulse and last for 4-5 beats 1-2 times per day. In medical terms its called pulsatile tinnitus but obviously its not medical. Has anyone experienced these whooshing sounds ? Also, I noticed a distant sound which sounded like a washing machine in far distance. This was a very subtle dim sound. Lol i went down to check if someone had the washing machine on but nope. Please shed some light for me , thanks @Lucky @Sat1176
  26. 2 points
    The charitar seems to be based on this rishi. It is quite an informative read about his life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishyasringa Some things I've noticed from this: How is it that the whole town, King and Brahmans etc all failed yet placed their faith in the ability of a prostitute to accomplish what they could not? The Rishi and his wife, then produced 13 children. I think that these births didn't come through human rites as the whole town would have died by then. We would be looking at at least 10 years for all of them to be born that way. One account of the Rishi's birth is that he was from the womb of a deer, which is why he had horns on his head. The Rishi after producing rain, and saving the town, then actually became a threat to the same town. So firstly they needed his attendance to save themselves, and then they needed his removal to save themselves. The image of the Rishi had to be changed from Jatta to pagridhari ie from dreadlocks to a turban. Why could the woman bring the rishi as he was, with dreadlocks to the town. I think that she wanted to display her power over him to the townsfolk. That she had not only changed his appearance but also his outlook on life ie from a sanyassi to a grishti.
  27. 2 points
    This bit gives details on some plant based narcotics and aphrodisiacs(?) used in this era: ਧਤੂਰ - Stramonium is a homeopathic supplement that promotes relaxation. The main ingredient is stramonium‚ a plant-based ingredient sometimes used as a hypnotic that some believe may lessen mild hallucinations. Its potential antispasmodic properties may also support breathing. Read more: https://www.ayurtimes.com/datura-stramonium-seeds-leaves-uses-health-benefits-dosage-side-effects/ ਕਸੁੰਭੜ - Medicinal Uses of Safflower: The leaves of Carthamus tinctorius is made into poultice and applied over the area affected with inflammation and joint pain as part of treatment. Safflower oil is given in a dose of about 20 – 30 ml to induce purgation and remove the intestinal worms. https://www.indianmirror.com/ayurveda/safflower.html
  28. 2 points
    dalsingh101

    Let's discuss Gurmat

    I think Dasam Granth goes into that subject, hardcore. Especially CP.
  29. 2 points
    gross...... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8112169/Hundreds-Hindus-hold-cow-urine-drinking-party-belief-fight-coronavirus.html
  30. 2 points
    Here is a video i found today which reminded of Bruce Lee's Way of the dragon or Return of the dragon seeing the nunchuck VID-20200313-WA0019.mp4
  31. 2 points
    It does have a large proportion of the charitar devoted to a yudh. Reading this charitar 2 themes came to mind. The first is that of sacrifice and the second is that of realisation. For the first, the woman who is offered to the King as a bride, seeing that the King rejects her, prepares to end her life. But note, she doesn't do it quietly or out of sight. She determines which way the Royal entourage will be travelling and creates a funeral pyre close to that path. The King sees that she is ready to kill herself over her rejection and seeing her devotion to him marries her. The second part is when the King measures her devotion to him against his existing queens and sees that none amongst them would die of separation from him. This realisation brings him to reconsider his rejection of her, thinking that she possesses an attribute his existing queens don't. A final line that stands out for me is line 21. Bindra hasn't even translated the word " ਰਾਂਕ" from the line " ਰਾਂਕ ਹੁਤੀ ਰਾਨੀ ਬਿਧਿ ਕੀਨੀ ॥੨੧॥ " meaning that from the "lowest" the woman rose to the highest.
  32. 2 points
  33. 2 points
    Jageera

    Why "Namdhari" is Not Sikhs?

    https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/namdhari-sikhs-chand-kaur-murder-a-wealthy-sect-an-old-family-feud-and-the-murder-of-a-matriarch/ Chand Kaur murder: A wealthy sect, an old family feud and the murder of a matriarch What is the feud that is tearing the first family of the Namdharis apart? Is the killing linked to the vast properties the sect owns, an attempt by a “third party” to ensure the family stays divided? How much wealth is at stake in this feud? Uday Singh controls over 6,000 acres of prime land, including the Bhaini Sahib headquarters, which also houses two palatial bungalows. He is the chairman of Namdhari Seeds, a multinational company with a turnover of over Rs 800 crore. He owns a bungalow in Bengaluru. A state of the art Satguru Partap Singh (SPS) Hospital runs in Ludhiana on charitable land of Namdharis. Another 400 acres of dera land in Mastangarh of Haryana is under Uday Singh. Dalip Singh, on the other hand, is in possession of 120 acres of land at Jeewan Nagar in Haryana, the ancestral property of his father Bir Singh, where he runs a dera, besides a bungalow in Bengaluru. ^^^^ looks like being a loyal dog of the tyrannical indian state pays well.
  34. 2 points
    Jageera

    Why "Namdhari" is Not Sikhs?

    Murder of Namdhari ex-head’s wife: ‘Arrest feuding nephew Dalip Singh’ https://www.hindustantimes.com/punjab/murder-of-namdhari-ex-head-s-wife-arrest-feuding-nephew-dalip-singh/story-0VnVsBjSUdwZnuNkrRF8PI.html Even as the police constituted a special investigation team to probe the fatal shooting of Chand Kaur, widow of former Namdhari sect head Satguru Jagjit Singh, followers sought arrest of Thakur Dalip Singh, her nephew who heads a feuding faction of the sect, for the murder on Monday. I learnt this art of copy&paste from you penji,hope you are proud of me.
  35. 2 points
    Jageera

    Why "Namdhari" is Not Sikhs?

    https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/chand-kaur-wife-of-late-namdhari-sect-head-guru-shot-dead-in-ludhiana/ Following the death of her husband Jagjit Singh in 2012, Kaur had supported Thakur Uday Singh as successor of the gaddi (highest guru seat). However, the opposite faction wanted Thakur Dilip Singh, the elder brother of Uday Singh, to be declared as successor. Uday Singh and Dalip Singh are sons of Maharaja Bir Singh, brother of Satguru Jagjit Singh. Satguru Partap Singh, in whose name SPS Hospitals run across the country, was father of Jagjit Singh. Don't try to pin this on Sikhs.This was the product of the turf war of two brothers vying for the post of Namdhari "guru".The old woman was targeted because she supported an opposing faction. Lol, so even the wife of Jagjit,namdhari supremo wasn't spared by the narakdharis. Just shows their mentality.Even with living "gurus" they still act worse than donkeys.
  36. 2 points
    Jageera

    Why "Namdhari" is Not Sikhs?

    Well people of the ethnic majority in these countries you mentioned did not rape and murder Sikhs.They do not spend billions on their intelligence agencies to suppress the Sikh faith and its followers.they do not find every way to attack and corrupt Sikhi and its youth.They do not use its media power to negatively portray Sikhs and turn them into a laughing stock. They do not have cyber troopers defending their rape and murder online on every Sikh forum just like what you and your fellow troopers here are doing. Go ask your own people what they do to Sikhs before you start playing victim. p/s; No,you won't "disappear" like that rape infested democracy you call India. In the countries you mentioned the rule of law is followed unlike a certain pseudo 'democracy'.You will be tried.You will be able to have legal representations and rights. Best of all even if you are tried,people of your same race or religion won't get raped and murdered on the streets by "mobs"..lol.
  37. 2 points
    You are the queen of copy paste penji,carry on I rest my case. Look at the hatred this person has for Sikhi.Why don't you take this same bullshit and go tell this to muslims,jews and christians too that their faith comes from hinduism.I would pay to see what happens after that. If what you say is the truth then why don't you people go convince your fellow hindus to smash your idols,throw away your tilaks and dhotis,stop drinking cow piss,burn all your vedas,purans and come join Sikhi as we are based on an ancient and eternal dharam and all are same innit?Why is it us who always have to change and accept authority of others? Maybe its time you people dumped your rubbish and come bowing to us. If what you say was true,the Gurus would not have wasted time creating Sikhi,Why go through all the pain and trouble? There were many religions around,and as you said there is ONE eternal dharma,so why start Sikhi? Are you claiming to be smarter than the Gurus?The Gurus did start the Sikh religion so I believe they know better than you.
  38. 2 points
    lol the the most violent aggressive person here is you who harasses people from thread to thread. Don't try to play victim just because you have a vagina. You are a rabid hindu extremists,what the hell are you doing on this site ridiculing Sikhs and Sikhi every chance you get.
  39. 2 points
    chatanga1

    Why "Namdhari" is Not Sikhs?

    Gursikhi is more than the swaroop. Of course they didn't. They did exactly the opposite. One of the biggest supporters of the Panjab congress was an namdhari. Harvinder Singh Hanspal was a high ranking member of the Naamdhari Panth. He was also a high ranking member of congress party in 1980s in Panjab. Hanspal also participated in the indian terrorist backed "World Sikh Conference" in 1984 to support the indian state's terrorist actions. The allegation is simple. They did zero, actually minus zero to help any Sikhs in those decades.
  40. 2 points
    Soulfinder

    Why "Namdhari" is Not Sikhs?

    Bhen ji true but now they have no use for the Sikh Panth especially since they didn't help in 1984 when we really needed it.
  41. 2 points
    @Soulfinder See this above bro. It's why she isn't liked anywhere in Sikh circles. No it's bhagwa which is more peach coloured than kesri. The BJP did nothing to bring justice to those murderers who did either, when they have the power to do so. Most of the DG's, DIG's, SSP's and DSP's are alive who carried out the ethnic cleansing of Sikhs since 1984. Why are they still free? Even this DG Dinkar guy with his "return a terrorist by evening from Kartarpure Sahib" quip was one of those officers. Yet Jagtar Singh Jaggi, who himself never harmed anyone, yet kept the information of the indian state's ethnic cleansing operations alive in the next generation of Sikh Panth, has been in indian jails for 3 three years. I wonder how many copy and paste essays you did about that. Like you do about the Khalistan movement? You were the one who parroted kps gill's views from his book ad verbatim. Yet many moons later you haven't told the WHOLE story. You hypocrite.
  42. 2 points
    tva prasad

    Anti-Sikh Propaganda on Wikipedia

    If you didn't know there was a government organisation comprising of Hindus called the "Black Cats", they would go around killing Hindus and rampaging about villages disguised as Sikhs. https://www.sikhfreedom.com/introduction-to-black-cats "When the freedom movement of Khalistan was at the peak, the Indian government adopted many immoral and insincere policies to suppress the movement. One of such policies was to malign the reputation of the Sikh fighters by forming groups of goons and criminals and sending them to the homes of the Sikhs to carry out immoral activities in disguise of Sikh freedom fighters. Such groups were called “Black Cats”. The intent behind this was to turn the public against the Sikh movement, giving the police more freedom to hunt down Sikhs and kill them in large numbers. These policies were kept at highly secret level. The groups of criminals, dressed as Sikhs, would go to different villages, loot the public and dishonor women. Because of the increasing activities of the Cats the public became aware of these groups. Some reporters managed to get interviews of some of the Cats which greatly exposed the tyrant Indian government. At first the police denied the existence of such groups but as more and more evidence came forward the police had no choice but to tell the truth in which they felt no shame and openly made statements favoring these groups and their activities. "
  43. 2 points
    tva prasad

    Anti-Sikh Propaganda on Wikipedia

    Veer ji, who knows what sort of government propaganda he's been reading. He's just ignoring the fact that operation Blue-star and operation Wood-rose even took place.
  44. 2 points
    tva prasad

    Anti-Sikh Propaganda on Wikipedia

    When circumstances demand sikhs by all means should use weapons, you sound like you haven't read dasam granth. How do you know those hindus were innocent. You are blindly believing the government propaganda of the time which painted those hindus as innocent even though they may not be. Kharkus are not terrorists. Period. You have no idea of the circumstances of the time so you can shut up. Thank you.
  45. 2 points
    tva prasad

    Anti-Sikh Propaganda on Wikipedia

    Yes, indeed. Even after our gurdwaras had been attacked and countless innocent Sikhs were killed we should have just sat there hoping the government would give us justice. Stop having an opinion on something without having decent knowledge on the subject, beforehand. We did many protests, etc. before 1984 but then Operation Blue Star happened. Operation Woodrose later took place. All options were exhausted, weapons were needed. You saying that shows that you completely lack a brain.
  46. 1 point
    Sat1176

    ashwagandha

    Where you get this stuff from?
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    Chritar 111: Tale of Raj Prabha ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਦੁਰਜਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਰਾਵ ਇਕ ਭਾਰੀ ॥ ਦਿਸਾ ਚਾਰਿ ਜਿਹ ਕਰਤ ਜੁਹਾਰੀ ॥ Durjan Singh was a great king; he was revered in all four directions. ਤਾ ਕੋ ਰੂਪ ਹੇਰਿ ਬਲਿ ਜਾਵਹਿ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਜਾ ਅਧਿਕ ਮਨ ਮੈ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵਹਿ ॥੧॥ His handsomeness was admired by every body and his subject was very blissful.(1) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਤਾਹਿ ਦੇਸ ਆਵਤ ਜੁ ਜਨ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਰੂਪ ਨਿਹਾਰਿ ॥ Who-so-ever came to his country, watched his magnanimity, ਹ੍ਵੈ ਚੇਰੇ ਤਿਹ ਪੁਰ ਬਸੈ ਸਭ ਧਨ ਧਾਮ ਬਿਸਾਰਿ ॥੨॥ He would forget all his own home and wealth, and remain as his (the raja’s) menial.(2) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਜਬ ਵਹੁ ਨ੍ਰਿਪਤਿ ਅਖੇਟਕ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਸ੍ਵਾਨਨ ਤੇ ਬਹੁਤ ਮ੍ਰਿਗਨ ਗਹਾਵੈ ॥ When the Raja would go for hunting, he would get many deer killed through his dogs. ਬਾਜਨ ਸਾਥ ਆਬਿਯਨ ਲੇਹੀ ॥ ਅਮਿਤ ਦਰਬੁ ਹੁਸਨਾਕਨ ਦੇਹੀ ॥੩॥ He would use his hawks to prey on water-fouls and distribute lot of wealth among the pretty people.(3) ਨਿਤਿਪ੍ਰਤਿ ਅਧਿਕ ਮ੍ਰਿਗਨ ਕੌ ਮਾਰੈ ॥ ਸਦਾ ਸੁ ਬਨ ਕੇ ਬੀਚ ਬਿਹਾਰੈ ॥ Remaining always in the jungle, he used to kill many deer. ਦੁਹੂ ਹਾਥ ਸੌ ਤੀਰ ਚਲਾਵੈ ॥ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਕਹਾ ਜਾਨ ਪਸੁ ਪਾਵੈ ॥੪॥ Throwing arrows with both the hands, he would not let any animal escape.(4) ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਅਖਿਟ ਸਿਧਾਯੋ ॥ ਕਾਰੋ ਹਰਿਨ ਹੇਰਿ ਲਲਚਾਯੋ ॥ One day when he was on hunting spree, he became rapacious finding a black deer. ਸੀਂਗਨ ਤੇ ਜੀਯਤ ਗਹਿ ਲੈਹੌ ॥ ਯਾ ਕੌ ਘਾਇ ਨ ਲਾਗਨ ਦੈਹੌ ॥੫॥ He thought, he would catch him alive and inflict no injury on his body.(5) ਹੇਰਿ ਹਰਿਨ ਕਹ ਤੁਰੈ ਧਵਾਯੋ ॥ ਪਾਛੋ ਚਲਿਯੋ ਤਵਨ ਕੋ ਆਯੋ ॥ On seeing him he sprinted his horse and chased him. ਜਬ ਪਰਦੇਸ ਗਯੋ ਚਲਿ ਸੋਈ ॥ ਚਾਕਰ ਤਹਾ ਨ ਪਹੂੰਚ੍ਯੋ ਕੋਈ ॥੬॥ When he entered another territory, no servant was left with him.(6) ਰਾਜ ਪ੍ਰਭਾ ਇਕ ਰਾਜ ਦੁਲਾਰੀ ॥ ਰਾਜਾ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨਨ ਤੇ ਪ੍ਯਾਰੀ ॥ There was a princess named Raj Prabha, who loved Raja more than her soul. ਧੌਲਰ ਊਚ ਤਵਨ ਕੌ ਰਾਜੈ ॥ ਮਨੋ ਚੰਦ੍ਰਮਾ ਕੋਲ ਬਿਰਾਜੈ ॥੭॥ Her sovereign palace would surmount the heights ofthe Moon.(7) ਤਪਤੀ ਨਦੀ ਤੀਰ ਤਿਹ ਬਹੈ ॥ ਸੂਰਜ ਸੁਤਾ ਤਾਹਿ ਜਗ ਕਹੈ ॥ An over gushing river used to flow nearby whose name was Jamuna. ਪੰਛੀ ਤਹਾ ਚੁਗਤ ਅਤਿ ਸੋਹੈ ॥ ਹੇਰਨਿਹਾਰਨ ਕੋ ਮਨੁ ਮੋਹੈ ॥੮॥ Around there, the birds picking up the seeds, always looked charming.(8) ਸੁੰਦਰ ਤਾਹਿ ਝਰੋਖੇ ਜਹਾ ॥ ਕਾਢ੍ਯੋ ਆਨਿ ਰਾਇ ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਤਹਾ ॥ In the palace, which had beautiful windows, the deer brought the Raja there. ਤੁਰੈ ਧਵਾਇ ਸ੍ਰਮਿਤ ਤਿਹ ਕੀਨੋ ॥ ਸ੍ਰਿੰਗਨ ਤੇ ਸ੍ਰਿੰਗੀ ਗਹਿ ਲੀਨੋ ॥੯॥ The Raja had made the deer tired and caught it by holding it from the horns.(9) ਯਹ ਕੌਤਕ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਸੁਤਾ ਨਿਹਾਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਯਹੈ ਆਪਨੇ ਹ੍ਰਿਦੈ ਬਿਚਾਰਿਯੋ ॥ Raj Kumari observed this scene and thought in her mind. ਮੈ ਅਬ ਹੀ ਇਹ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਕੌ ਬਰੌ ॥ ਨਾਤਰ ਮਾਰਿ ਕਟਾਰੀ ਮਰੌ ॥੧੦॥ ‘I will marry only this Raja otherwise I will finish myself with a dagger.(10) ਐਸੀ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਰਾਇ ਸੌ ਜੋਰੀ ॥ ਕਾਹੂ ਪਾਸ ਜਾਤ ਨਹਿ ਤੋਰੀ ॥ She showered such a love that could not be shattered. ਨੈਨ ਸੈਨ ਦੈ ਤਾਹਿ ਬਲਾਯੋ ॥ ਮੈਨ ਭੋਗ ਤਹਿ ਸਾਥ ਕਮਾਯੋ ॥੧੧॥ Through her charming looks, she invited Raja and made love with him.(11) ਐਸੀ ਫਬਤ ਦੁਹੂੰਨ ਕੀ ਜੋਰੀ ॥ ਜਨੁਕ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਬ੍ਰਿਖਭਾਨ ਕਿਸੋਰੀ ॥ The couple befitted so much that they seemed as the epitome of Krishna and Radha. ਦੁਹੂੰ ਹਾਥ ਤਿਹ ਕੁਚਨ ਮਰੋਰੈ ॥ ਜਨੁ ਖੋਯੋ ਨਿਧਨੀ ਧਨੁ ਟੋਰੈ ॥੧੨॥ They honnobbed their hands like a poor man who tried to move his hands searching for his last wealth.(12) ਬਾਰ ਬਾਰ ਤਿਹ ਗਰੇ ਲਗਾਵੈ ॥ ਜਨੁ ਕੰਦ੍ਰਪ ਕੋ ਦ੍ਰਪੁ ਮਿਟਾਵੈ ॥ He cuddled her again and again as if trying to ravage the pride of the Cupid. ਭੋਗਤ ਤਾਹਿ ਜੰਘ ਲੈ ਕਾਧੇ ॥ ਜਨੁ ਦ੍ਵੈ ਮੈਨ ਤਰਕਸਨ ਬਾਂਧੇ ॥੧੩॥ Making love by keeping her legs on the shoulder, he looked like the Cupid charging an arrow in the bow.(13) ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਸੌ ਚੁੰਬਨ ਕੀਨੇ ॥ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਆਸਨ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਦੀਨੇ ॥ He kissed her in many ways and endowed her many types of postures. ਗਹਿ ਗਹਿ ਤਾ ਸੋ ਗਰੇ ਲਗਾਈ ॥ ਮਾਨਹੁ ਰੰਕ ਨਵੌ ਨਿਧਿ ਪਾਈ ॥੧੪॥ He pulled her towards him like a treasure coming into the hands of a pauper.(14) ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥ Savaiyya ਮੀਤ ਅਲਿੰਗਨ ਆਸਨ ਚੁੰਬਨ ਕੀਨੇ ਅਨੇਕ ਤੇ ਕੌਨ ਗਨੈ ॥ He performed sex and had kisses in so many ways that no one could count. ਮੁਸਕਾਤ ਲਜਾਤ ਕਛੂ ਲਲਤਾ ਸੁ ਬਿਲਾਸ ਲਸੈ ਪਿਯ ਸਾਥ ਤਨੈ ॥ The woman, feeling shy but smiling, remained affixed to his body. ਝਮਕੈ ਜਰ ਜੇਬ ਜਰਾਇਨ ਕੀ ਦਮਕੈ ਮਨੋ ਦਾਮਨਿ ਬੀਚ ਘਨੈ ॥ Her embroidered clothes were shinning like lightening in the clouds. ਲਖਿ ਨੈਕੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾ ਸਜਨੀ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਇਹ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਰਹੀਅਤਿ ਰੀਸਿ ਮਨੈ ॥੧੫॥ Beholding all this, all her friends got envious in their minds.(15) ਕੰਚਨ ਸੇ ਤਨ ਹੈ ਰਮਨੀਯ ਦ੍ਰਿਗੰਚਲ ਚੰਚਲ ਹੈ ਅਨਿਯਾਰੇ ॥ Their bodies sparkled like gold and their coquettish eyes were as sharp as arrows. ਖੰਜਨ ਸੇ ਮਨ ਰੰਜਨ ਰਾਜਤ ਕੰਜਨ ਸੇ ਅਤਿ ਹੀ ਕਜਰਾਰੇ ॥ They were looking as the epitome ofthe pied-wagtail and cuckoo birds. ਰੀਝਤ ਦੇਵ ਅਦੇਵ ਲਖੇ ਛਬਿ ਮੈਨ ਮਨੋ ਦੋਊ ਸਾਂਚਨ ਢਾਰੇ ॥ Even god and devils got satiated and they looked as if the Cupid had cast them in a mould. ਜੋਬਨ ਜੇਬ ਜਗੇ ਅਤਿ ਹੀ ਸੁਭ ਬਾਲ ਬਨੇ ਦ੍ਰਿਗ ਲਾਲ ਤਿਹਾਰੇ ॥੧੬॥ ‘Oh, My Love, under .the prime of youth, your two eyes are the embodiment of red-rubies.’(16) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਪ੍ਰੀਤ ਦੁਹਾਨ ਕੀ ਅਤਿ ਬਢੀ ਤ੍ਰੀਯ ਪਿਯਾ ਕੇ ਮਾਹਿ ॥ Their love reached the extremes and she felt as if she was amalgamated with the lover. ਪਟ ਛੂਟ੍ਯੋ ਨਿਰਪਟ ਭਏ ਰਹਿਯੋ ਕਪਟ ਕਛੁ ਨਾਹਿ ॥੧੭॥ They both got rid of their aprons and remained there with no secret in between.(17) ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਆਸਨ ਕਰੈ ਤਰੁਨ ਤਰੁਨਿ ਲਪਟਾਇ ॥ Cuddling and cuddling each other they indulged in taking various position, ਮੋਦ ਦੁਹਨ ਕੋ ਅਤਿ ਬਢ੍ਯੋ ਗਨਨਾ ਗਨੀ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥੧੮॥ And the urge achieved the extremes and they lost the counts.(18) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਚਿਮਟਿ ਚਿਮਟਿ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਕੇਲ ਕਮਾਵੈ ॥ ਲਪਟਿ ਲਪਟਿ ਤਰੁਨੀ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ Embracing and snuggling the Raja was enjoying the love-making, ਬਹਸਿ ਬਹਸਿ ਆਲਿੰਗਨ ਕਰਹੀ ॥ And, by squeezing and clasping the woman, he was feeling blissful. ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਸੌ ਬਚਨ ਉਚਰੀ ॥੧੯॥ Laughing and smiling she made love and expressed loudly her contentment.(19) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਆਸਨ ਕਰੈ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਸੁਖ ਪਾਇ ॥ Adopting different postures she took positions and experienced alleviations. ਲਪਟਿ ਲਪਟਿ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਰਮੈ ਚਿਮਟਿ ਚਿਮਟਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਜਾਇ ॥੨੦॥ Embracing and cuddling they indulged ravishingly and the woman felt fulfilment by nuzzling.(20) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਕੇ ਅਮਲ ਮੰਗਾਏ ॥ ਬਿਬਿਧ ਬਿਧਨ ਪਕਵਾਨ ਪਕਾਏ ॥ They acquired various intoxicants and arranged many viands. ਦਾਰੂ ਪੋਸਤ ਔਰ ਧਤੂਰੋ ॥ ਪਾਨ ਡਰਾਇ ਕਸੁੰਭੜੋ ਰੂਰੋ ॥੨੧॥ Also obtained wine, marijuana and weeds and chewed beetle-nuts laden with safflowers.(21) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਅਮਿਤ ਆਫੂਆ ਕੀ ਬਰੀ ਖਾਇ ਚੜਾਈ ਭੰਗ ॥ After taking very strong opium and cannabis, ਚਤੁਰ ਪਹਰ ਭੋਗਿਯੋ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਹਿ ਤਉ ਨ ਮੁਚਿਯੋ ਅਨੰਗ ॥੨੨॥ They made love during all the four watches bUt never felt satiated,(22) ਤਰੁਨ ਤਰੁਨ ਤਰੁਨੀ ਤਰੁਨਿ ਤਰੁਨ ਚੰਦ੍ਰ ਕੀ ਜੌਨ ॥ As both, the man and the women, were at the prime of youth and the Moon was in full swings too. ਕੇਲ ਕਰੈ ਬਿਹਸੈ ਦੋਊ ਹਾਰਿ ਹਟੈ ਸੋ ਕੌਨ ॥੨੩॥ They made love with gratification and none would accept the defeat.(23) ਚਤੁਰ ਪੁਰਖ ਚਤੁਰਾ ਚਤੁਰ ਤਰੁਨ ਤਰੁਨਿ ਕੌ ਪਾਇ ॥ The wise man always seeks and gets a wise and young woman, ਬਿਹਸ ਬਿਹਸ ਲਾਵੈ ਗਰੇ ਛਿਨਕਿ ਨ ਛੋਰਿਯੋ ਜਾਇ ॥੨੪॥ And happily and cheerfully clUtches her and leaves her not.(24) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਜੋ ਚਤੁਰਾ ਚਤੁਰਾ ਕੌ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨ ਛਿਨ ਚਿਤ ਤੇ ਬਿਸਰਾਵੈ ॥ When a clever one meets a smart one, one does not wish to forsake the other. ਜੜ ਕੁਰੂਪ ਕੌ ਚਿਤਹਿ ਨ ਧਰੈ ॥ ਮਨ ਕ੍ਰਮ ਬਚ ਤਾਹੀ ਤੌ ਬਰੈ ॥੨੫॥ The diverse ones, he considers imprudent and ugly in his heart and keeps his mind and words to marry the first one.(25) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਚੰਦਨ ਕੀ ਚੌਕੀ ਭਲੀ ਕਾਸਟ ਦ੍ਰੁਮ ਕਿਹ ਕਾਜ ॥ Sandal-woods stool is better but what use is the huge piece of wood. ਚਤੁਰਾ ਕੋ ਨੀਕੋ ਚਿਤ੍ਯੋ ਕਹਾ ਮੂੜ ਕੋ ਰਾਜ ॥੨੬॥ A wise woman longs for a perceptive man, but what will she do with a fool?(26) ਸੋਰਠਾ ॥ Sortha ਤਰੁਨਿ ਪਤਰਿਯਾ ਨੀਕ ਚਪਲ ਚੀਤਿ ਭੀਤਰ ਚੁਭਿਯੋ ॥ The young husband is kind and he makes his home in her heart. ਅਧਿਕ ਪਿਯਰਵਾ ਮੀਤ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨ ਬਿਸਰਤ ਹ੍ਰਿਦੈ ਤੇ ॥੨੭॥ He endows her lot of love and is never disregarded.(27) ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥ Savaiyya ਰੀਝ ਰਹੀ ਅਬਲਾ ਅਤਿ ਹੀ ਪਿਯ ਰੂਪ ਅਨੂਪ ਲਖੇ ਮਨ ਮਾਹੀ ॥ ਸੋਚ ਬਿਚਾਰ ਤਜ੍ਯੋ ਸਭ ਸੁੰਦਰਿ ਨੈਨ ਸੋ ਨੈਨ ਮਿਲੇ ਮੁਸਕਾਹੀ ॥ ਲਾਲ ਕੇ ਲਾਲਚੀ ਲੋਚਨ ਲੋਲ ਅਮੋਲਨ ਕੀ ਨਿਰਖੇ ਪਰਛਾਹੀ ॥ ਮਤ ਭਈ ਮਨ ਮਾਨੋ ਪਿਯੋ ਮਦ ਮੋਹਿ ਰਹੀ ਮੁਖ ਭਾਖਤ ਨਾਹੀ ॥੨੮॥ ਸੋਭਤ ਸੁਧ ਸੁਧਾਰੇ ਸੇ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਜੋਬਨ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਗੇ ਜਰਬੀਲੇ ॥ ਖੰਜਨ ਸੇ ਮਨੋਰੰਜਨ ਰਾਜਤ ਭਾਰੀ ਪ੍ਰਤਾਪ ਭਰੇ ਗਰਬੀਲੇ ॥ Looking at his features woman gets heartfelt contentment. ਬਾਨਨ ਸੇ ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਬਾਰਨ ਸੇ ਤਰਵਾਰਨ ਸੇ ਚਮਕੇ ਚਟਕੀਲੇ ॥ She abandons all recollections and beams when she crosses her ravishing looks with his looks. ਰੀਝਿ ਰਹੀ ਸਖਿ ਹੌਹੂੰ ਲਖੇ ਛਬਿ ਲਾਲ ਕੇ ਨੈਨ ਬਿਸਾਲ ਰਸੀਲੇ ॥੨੯॥ Achieving profound love, she feels herself in ecstasy and does not express remorse.(29) ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਲੀ ਬਿਨ ਸੰਗ ਅਲੀ ਜਬ ਤੇ ਮਨ ਭਾਵਨ ਭੇਟਿ ਗਈ ਹੌ ॥ ‘Since the time I have met my lover, I have abandoned all my modesty. ਤਾ ਦਿਨ ਤੇ ਨ ਸੁਹਾਤ ਕਛੂ ਸੁ ਮਨੋ ਬਿਨੁ ਦਾਮਨ ਮੋਲ ਲਈ ਹੌ ॥ ‘Nothing entices me, as if I am sold without any monetary gains. ਭੌਹ ਕਮਾਨ ਕੋ ਤਾਨਿ ਭਲੇ ਦ੍ਰਿਗ ਸਾਇਕ ਕੇ ਜਨੁ ਘਾਇ ਘਈ ਹੌ ॥ ‘With the arrows coming oUt of his vision, I am afflicted. ਮਾਰਿ ਸੁ ਮਾਰਿ ਕਰੀ ਸਜਨੀ ਸੁਨਿ ਲਾਲ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਗੁਲਾਮ ਭਈ ਹੌ ॥੩੦॥ ‘Listen, my friend, the urge for love-making has made me to become his slave.’(30) ਬਾਰਿਜ ਨੈਨ ਜਿਤੀ ਬਨਿਤਾ ਸੁ ਬਿਲੌਕ ਕੈ ਬਾਨ ਬਿਨਾ ਬਧ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਹੈ ॥ ਬੀਰੀ ਚਬਾਤ ਨ ਬੈਠਿ ਸਕੈ ਬਿਸੰਭਾਰ ਭਈ ਬਹੁਧਾ ਬਰਰੈ ਹੈ ॥ ਬਾਤ ਕਹੈ ਬਿਗਸੈ ਨ ਬਬਾ ਕੀ ਸੌ ਲੇਤ ਬਲਾਇ ਸਭੈ ਬਲਿ ਜੈ ਹੈ ॥ ਬਾਲਮ ਹੇਤ ਬਿਯੋਮ ਕੀ ਬਾਮ ਸੁ ਬਾਰ ਅਨੇਕ ਬਜਾਰ ਬਕੈ ਹੈ ॥੩੧॥ ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਏਕ ਸਖੀ ਛਬਿ ਹੇਰਿ ਰਿਸਾਈ ॥ ਤਾ ਕੇ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਪਿਤਾ ਪ੍ਰਤੀ ਜਾਈ ॥ One of her friends became jealous, who went and told her father. ਬਚਨ ਸੁਨਤ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਅਧਿਕ ਰਿਸਾਯੋ ॥ ਦੁਹਿਤਾ ਕੇ ਮੰਦਿਰ ਚਲਿ ਆਯੋ ॥੩੨॥ The Raja, getting furious, marched towards her palace.(32) ਰਾਜ ਸੁਤਾ ਐਸੇ ਸੁਨਿ ਪਾਯੋ ॥ ਮੋ ਪਿਤੁ ਅਧਿਕ ਕੋਪ ਕਰਿ ਆਯੋ ॥ When Raj Kumari learnt that her father, getting angry, was coming, ਤਬ ਤਿਨ ਹ੍ਰਿਦੈ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਕਾ ਕਰੋ ॥ ਉਰ ਮਹਿ ਮਾਰਿ ਕਟਾਰੀ ਮਰੋ ॥੩੩॥ She resolved to kill herself with a dagger.(33) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਬਿਮਨ ਚੰਚਲਾ ਚਿਤ ਲਖੀ ਮੀਤ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਮੁਸਕਾਇ ॥ As she seemed very much perturbed, her lover asked smilingly, ਤੈ ਚਿਤ ਕ੍ਯੋ ਬ੍ਯਾਕੁਲਿ ਭਈ ਮੁਹਿ ਕਹਿ ਭੇਦ ਸੁਨਾਇ ॥੩੪॥ ‘Why are you getting agitated, tell me the reason?(34) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਰਾਜ ਸੁਤਾ ਕਹਿ ਤਾਹਿ ਸੁਨਾਯੋ ॥ ਯਾ ਤੇ ਮੋਰ ਹ੍ਰਿਦੈ ਡਰ ਪਾਯੋ ॥ Raj Kumari, then, told, ‘I am dreaded in my heart, because, ਰਾਜਾ ਸੋ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਕਹਿ ਦੀਨੋ ॥ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਰਾਵ ਕੋਪ ਅਤਿ ਕੀਨੋ ॥੩੫॥ ‘Some body had revealed the secret to the King and he is very much infuriated.(35) ਤਾ ਤੇ ਰਾਵ ਕ੍ਰੋਧ ਉਪਜਾਯੋ ॥ ਦੁਹੂੰਅਨ ਕੇ ਮਾਰਨਿ ਹਿਤ ਆਯੋ ॥ ‘Now the King, being outraged, is coming to kill us both. ਅਪਨੇ ਸੰਗ ਮੋਹਿ ਕਰਿ ਲੀਜੈ ॥ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਉਪਾਇ ਭਜਨ ਕੋ ਕੀਜੈ ॥੩੬॥ ‘You take me with you, and find some way to escape.’(36) ਬਚਨ ਸੁਨਤ ਰਾਜਾ ਹਸਿ ਪਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਸੋਕ ਨਿਵਾਰਨ ਕਰਿਯੋ ॥ Listening to the talk, Raja laughed and suggested her to eliminate her distress.’ ਹਮਰੋ ਕਛੂ ਸੋਕ ਨਹਿ ਕਰਿਯੈ ॥ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਜਾਨਿ ਜਾਨ ਤੇ ਡਰਿਯੈ ॥੩੭॥ ‘Don’t worry about me, I am concerned with your life only.(37) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਧ੍ਰਿਗ ਅਬਲਾ ਤੇ ਜਗਤ ਮੈ ਪਿਯ ਬਧ ਨੈਨ ਨਿਹਾਰਿ ॥ Unworthy is the living of that woman who watches the assassination of her lover. ਪਲਕ ਏਕ ਜੀਯਤ ਰਹੈ ਮਰਹਿ ਨ ਜਮਧਰ ਮਾਰਿ ॥੩੮॥ She should not live for a minute and kill herself with a dagger.(38) ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥ Savaiyya ਕੰਠਸਿਰੀ ਮਨਿ ਕੰਕਨ ਕੁੰਡਰ ਭੂਖਨ ਛੋਰਿ ਭਭੂਤ ਧਰੌਂਗੀ ॥ (Raj Kumari) ‘Throwing away; necklace, getting rid of gold bangles and ornaments, I will smear dust on my body (become an ascetic). ਹਾਰ ਬਿਸਾਰਿ ਹਜਾਰਨ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਪਾਵਕ ਬੀਚ ਪ੍ਰਵੇਸ ਕਰੌਂਗੀ ॥ ‘Sacrificing all my beautification, I will jump in fire to finish myself. ਜੂਝਿ ਮਰੌ ਕਿ ਗਰੌ ਹਿਮ ਮਾਝ ਟਰੋ ਨ ਤਊ ਹਠਿ ਤੋਹਿ ਬਰੌਂਗੀ ॥ ‘I will fight to death or bury myself in the snow but will never abandon my determination. ਰਾਜ ਸਮਾਜ ਨ ਕਾਜ ਕਿਸੂ ਸਖਿ ਪੀਯ ਮਰਿਯੋ ਲਖਿ ਹੌਹੂ ਮਰੌਂਗੀ ॥੩੯॥ ‘All the sovereignty and socialising won’t be of any benefit if my lover dies.’(39) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਬਿਹਸਿ ਕੁਅਰ ਯੌ ਬਚਨ ਉਚਾਰੋ ॥ ਸੋਕ ਕਰੋ ਨਹਿ ਬਾਲ ਹਮਾਰੋ ॥ But Kumar said jovially, ‘Don’t worry about me. ਹੌ ਅਬ ਏਕ ਉਪਾਯਹਿ ਕਰਿਹੋ ॥ ਜਾ ਤੇ ਤੁਮਰੋ ਸੋਕ ਨਿਵਰਿਹੋ ॥੪੦॥ ‘I will find a way which will eradicate your affliction.’(40) ਹਮਰੋ ਕਛੂ ਸੋਕ ਨਹਿ ਕੀਜੈ ॥ ਤੀਰ ਕਮਾਨ ਆਨਿ ਮੁਹਿ ਦੀਜੈ ॥ ‘Please don’t worry about me,just get me a bow and arrow. ਮੁਹਕਮ ਕੈ ਦਰਵਾਜੋ ਦ੍ਯਾਵਹੁ ॥ ਯਾ ਆਂਗਨ ਮਹਿ ਸੇਜ ਬਿਛਾਵਹੁ ॥੪੧॥ ‘Close the door tightly and lay down a bed in the courtyard.’(41) ਵਹੈ ਕਾਮ ਅਬਲਾ ਤਿਨ ਕਿਯੋ ॥ ਤੀਰ ਕਮਾਨਿ ਆਨਿ ਤਿਹ ਦਿਯੋ ॥ The woman abided by accordingly and brought him a bow and arrow. ਭਲੀ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਸੌ ਸੇਜ ਬਿਛਾਈ ॥ ਤਾ ਪਰ ਮੀਤ ਲਯੋ ਬੈਠਾਈ ॥੪੨॥ Elegantly she bedecked a bed and over it made the lover to sit.(42) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਤਬ ਅਬਲਾ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਕਰੀ ਜਿਯ ਤੇ ਭਈ ਨਿਰਾਸ ॥ Contemplating thus, she thought in her mind, ਜੀਯੋ ਤ ਪਿਯ ਕੇ ਸਹਿਤ ਹੀ ਮਰੌ ਤ ਪਤਿ ਕੇ ਪਾਸ ॥੪੩॥ ‘I will live or die with my lover.’(43) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਪਲਕਾ ਪਰ ਮੀਤਹਿ ਬੈਠਾਯੋ ॥ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਸੌ ਕੇਲ ਕਮਾਯੋ ॥ She gave him loving looks and made love in various manners. ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਕੇ ਭੋਗਨ ਭਰਹੀ ॥ ਜਿਯ ਅਪਨੇ ਕੋ ਤ੍ਰਾਸ ਨ ਕਰਹੀ ॥੪੪॥ While gratifying themselves with love-making, they dreaded not at all.(44) ਤਬ ਲੌ ਚਕ੍ਰਵਾਕ ਦੋ ਆਏ ॥ ਰਾਜ ਕੁਮਾਰ ਦ੍ਰਿਗਨ ਲਖਿ ਪਾਏ ॥ There appeared two ruddy sheldrakes (very big birds) that were seen by Raj Kumar. ਏਕ ਧਨੁ ਤਾਨਿ ਬਾਨ ਸੌ ਮਾਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਦੁਤਿਯਾ ਹਾਥ ਸਰ ਦੁਤਿਯ ਪ੍ਰਹਾਰਿਯੋ ॥੪੫॥ One he killed with the bow, and the other, he finished with an arrow held in his hands.(45) ਦੁਹੂੰ ਸਰਨ ਦੁਹੂੰਅਨ ਬਧ ਕੀਨੋ ॥ ਦੁਹੂੰਅਨ ਭੂੰਨਿ ਛਿਨਿਕ ਮਹਿ ਲੀਨੋ ॥ With two arrows he destroyed both and they roasted them immediately. ਤਿਨ ਦੁਹੂੰਅਨ ਦੁਹੂੰਅਨ ਕੋ ਖਾਯੋ ॥ ਸੰਕ ਛੋਰਿ ਪੁਨ ਕੇਲ ਕਮਾਯੋ ॥੪੬॥ They both ate both of them, then, fearlessly enjoyed the sex.(46) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਭਛਨ ਕਰਿ ਦੁਹਨ ਲੀਨੋ ਚਰਮ ਉਤਾਰਿ ॥ After relishing them they took off their skins. ਪਹਿਰਿ ਦੁਹੁਨ ਸਿਰ ਪੈ ਲਯੋ ਪੈਠੇ ਨਦੀ ਮਝਾਰਿ ॥੪੭॥ Putting those on their heads, they jumped into the river.(47) ਚੌਪਈ ॥ Chaupaee ਚਕ੍ਰਵਾਰ ਸਭ ਕੋ ਤਿਨ ਜਾਨੈ ॥ ਮਾਨੁਖ ਕੈ ਨ ਕੋਊ ਪਹਿਚਾਨੈ ॥ Every body took them as birds and never thought they could be humans. ਪੈਰਤ ਬਹੁ ਕੋਸਨ ਲਗਿ ਗਏ ॥ ਲਾਗਤ ਏਕ ਕਿਨਾਰੇ ਭਏ ॥੪੮॥ Swimming and swirling they went a long way and touched the bank.(48) ਦੋ ਹੈ ਦੋਊ ਅਰੂੜਿਤ ਭਏ ॥ ਚਲਿ ਕਰਿ ਦੇਸ ਆਪਨੇ ਗਏ ॥ They engaged two horses and travelled to their country. ਤਾ ਕੌ ਲੈ ਪਟਰਾਨੀ ਕੀਨੋ ॥ ਚਿਤ ਕੋ ਸੋਕ ਦੂਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਦੀਨੋ ॥੪੯॥ Retaining her as his principal Rani, he obliterated all his agonies.(49) ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ Dohira ਪੰਛਿਯਨ ਕੋ ਪੋਸਤ ਧਰੇ ਪਿਤੁ ਕੀ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਬਚਾਇ ॥ Wearing the skins of birds, they had escaped the looks of her father. ਪੰਖੀ ਹੀ ਸਭ ਕੋ ਲਖੈ ਮਾਨੁਖ ਲਖ੍ਯੋ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥੫੦॥ Every body considered them as the birds and none could guess that they were humans.(50) ਦੇਸ ਆਨਿ ਅਪਨੇ ਬਸੇ ਤਿਯ ਕੋ ਸਦਨ ਬਨਾਇ ॥ ‘They had come to their own country now, ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਤਾ ਸੋ ਰਮੈ ਨਿਸੁ ਦਿਨ ਮੋਦ ਬਢਾਇ ॥੫੧॥ And day and night blissfully enjoyed love-making.(51)(1) ਇਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਪਖ੍ਯਾਨੇ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰੇ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੀ ਭੂਪ ਸੰਬਾਦੇ ਇਕ ਸੌ ਗਿਆਰਹ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਸਮਾਪਤਮ ਸਤੁ ਸੁਭਮ ਸਤੁ ॥੧੧੧॥੨੧੫੭॥ਅਫਜੂੰ॥ 111th Parable of Auspicious Chritars Conversation of the Raja and the Minister, Completed With Benediction. (111)(2155)
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    harsharan000

    Denda De Lenda Thak Paahe

    Well brother curious man jee, from what I understand, is that, the all powerfull Waheguru Akal Purukh, will continoussly keep satisfying all our desires which keep on arising without any stop, for He is as great as only He is. Eventually, we may get tired of asking, but He Sachay Patshah, never ever gets tired nor short, even if the whole of the "kaenaat" gets together and keeps asking countless times .... Denda de : The bountless Giver, nonstop keeps on giving whatsoever is asked from Him lenda thak paahe: to the extent that in the end, the receiver gets tired of asking and receiving. SSA.
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    Just found out the author was a university level chemistry lecturer.
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    chatanga1

    Harjas Pothi

    Are the Minas still existing today?
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