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  1. 6 points
    Outside of nitnem, isn't the rest of Gurbani an expansion/elaboration of this? I think because we are used to certain styles of written communication in English, we may sort of expect similar styles in Gurbani, but it doesn't appear to work like that from what I can gather. It's very subtle, it's not like a lot of Abrahamic stuff that appears to be direct. Because we are dealing with the subconscious and deeply concealed aspects of the munh, it has to be approached differently. Diverting and dealing with the munh (which any of us who have tried to practice simran can see clearly has a mind of it's own), isn't an easy task. So Gurbani goes beyond overtly conscious thought and tries to tap into more deeply rooted, hidden aspects of our psychology. I don't think we can reach those parts with overt, explicit directives like other faiths try to do. My personal experiences has been that it soothes and calms the psyche - I might be wrong but it seems like a device to help prep the mind for better naam-simran? We have elaboration by Bhai Gurdas which elucidates things in layman's terms. I think the archaic use of the word 'sublime' may help explain the way Gurbani interacts with the practitioner. And because we are all at different stages (probably due to karma), it wouldn't make sense to create a sort of explicit manual for this. This is what makes it so different to Abrahamic thinking. It tries to elicit something subtle but powerful already within that we are alienated from, rather than pour something inside of us. It's not a simple thing from what I can gather, on a human front we are dealing with higher cognitive functioning here, but then trying go beyond that. I don't claim to know it all, because it is sooooo deep. So please feel free to disagree. This is just how it seems to me right now. And I say this knowing full well, that I'm full of my own augunhs too, and struggle with them.
  2. 4 points

    Can A Sikh Do Namaz?

    Why would someone want to do namaz anyway? With Gurbani we get to understand what is being relayed because the language is a lot more familiar.
  3. 4 points
    Simran Stages In terms of a layman AJAPA JAAP is the spiritual condition of a person when the Simran goes on an auto pilot mode in your Surat and then in Hirdey and so on as explained below. It means that Simran becomes a round the clock thing inside you, Simran doesn’t stop at any moment, it carries on and such a condition comes with Gurkirpa and after a lot of Bhagti Kamai or can also be attained with the Kirpa of a Puran Braham Gyani. The normal sequence is as follows: 1. Jaap with Tounge – Rasna – this happens in Dharam Khand 2. Jaap with the breathing – with Swaas – this happens in Gyan Khand and Saram Khand 3. Then Naam goes into your mind – Surat, in your thinking, then it becomes Simran from Jaap – this is a very good stage – this happens in Saram Khand and Karam Khand – some people go into Smadhi at this stage. 4. The next stage is when Simran goes into Hirdey – this one is even much higher stage when Naam goes into Hirdey – this is where it goes on an automatic mode, this is where the real bhagti starts, one goes into Smadhi and Sun Smadhi– Karam Khand – this is when you go into Smadhi and the real bhagti starts, your bhagti account is opened in the Dargah. 5. The next stage is when Simran travels to the Nabhi, when Nabhi Kamal blossoms – Karam Khand 6. The next Stage is when Simran goes into Kundlini – Mooladhaar Chakkar and spine – Karam Khand 7. The next stage is when Simran travels through the spine to the brain, and back to Surat where it completes the cycle. This is what the real Mala of Naam is. When this happens then the Gyan Netter and Dassam Duaar opens and you form a permanent connection with Akal Purakh, you start to get divine knowledge – Braham Gyan. This happens in Sach Khand. Enjoyment – Anand in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi is beyond description. That is why the Maha Purakhs go into very deep meditation some time for days together. You experience a lot of things during your Smadhi and Sun Smadhi, see a lot of things, it is beyond description what happens and through what you go when you go into deep meditation. This is the stage when all the doors – Bajjar Kapaat are opened and there is a continuous flow of Amrit, body is always full of Amrit. 8. The Simran in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi continues until NIRGUN AND SARGUN becomes one, at this point Simran goes into rom-rom – every bit of your body does Naam Simran, your Suksham Dehi becomes as pure as gold, your entire body is filled with Naam Amrit all the time. You become Braham Leen, and reach Atal Awastha. These stages are beyond description. Sat Chit Anand Ghar Hamare – Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhyae – Nirgun Sargun Nirankaar Sun Smadhi Aap, Apan Kia Nanka Apan Hi Fir Jaap and so on. One lives in Puran Parkash all the time and listens to Ilahi Kirtan – Anhad Naad Dhunis all the time. It is just incredible experience. This is when one becomes Sat Ram Dass and is directed by the Almighty to serve the Sangat. And this is what your target should be when you have been prompted to move on the Bhagti Marg. Following is the benefit sequence: Jaap with Rasna 1000 times = Jaap in Swaas one time Jaap in Swaas 1000 times = Simran in Surat one time Simran in Surat 1000 times = Simran in Hirdey or elsewhere one time So Simran in Hirdey and beyond is the most rewarding one. Again some people might think we are getting into counting the benefit, and it is correct to say that we should not indulge in counting, but it is just a way to make the Sangat understand that which way and where Simran will bring what kind of rewards. The 1000 numbers signify that the rewards of Simran in Hirdey are much higher than doing Jaap with Rasna. If you do Jaap with Rasna your Rasna will become pavitter – pious, by doing jaap in along breathing – swass your swass will become pious – pavitter, by doing Simran in mind-Surat-Chit- mind will become pious – pavitter, and that is what you need to do to make your mind pious – pavitter, that is how you will have control on your mind – MAN JEETE JAG JEET – MAN TU JYOT SAROOP HAI and you will be able to rise above Panj Doots – KAAM, KRODH, LOBH, MOH, AHANKAAR AND ALSO ASA, TRISHNA, MANSHA, NINDYA, CHUGLI, BAKHILI, RAJ, JOBAN, DHAN, MAAL, ROOP, RAS, GANDH, THESE THUGS – MENTAL SICKNESSES. And when Simran goes in to Hirdey – and Simran will go to Hirdey by itself with Gurkirpa only, and so in Chit, Hirdey will become pavitter – pious and a pious Hirdey will become Mahaparupkari and Dana Dina, NIRBHAO, NIRVAIR and so on, it will start to absorb all the vital qualities of Akal Purakh and will become a Puran Sant Hirda, and will achieve JIVAN MUKTI – PARAM PADVI-BRAHAM GYAN. The true definition of a Sant is not by wearing a chola – outside dress and outside rituals, it is the Hirda that becomes Puran Sachyara – completely truthful and that – HIRDA IS SANT and when the Naam Rattan goes into Hirdey – jad naam rattn Hirdey vich jad da hai taan Braham Gyan di neev rakhi jandi hai ji, so please try to understand it and put it into your daily lives to get Naam Rattan planted in your Hirdey – then naam goes to Nabhi and spine and so on, and again it happens by itself and with Gurkirpa and not by our own efforts, it will happen only under Hukam. Again higher state of AMRIT IS NAAM AMRIT and – PRABH KA SIMRAN SABH TE UNCHA – HAR SIMRAN ME AAP NIRANKAARA – KINKA EK JIS JEE BASAVE TAKI MAHIMA GANI NAA AAWE – HAR KE NAAM SAMSR KICHU NAAHIN – TUDH BAAJH KUDO KOOD – EH DHAN SANCHO HOWO BHAGWANT, so please try to make your life cleaner, rise above Panj Doots, kill your desires and don’t indulge in Nindya, rise above all the doubts – Dubidha – Dharam De Bharam – follow the Braham Gyan of Gurbani in your daily lives, become a Puran Sachyara – completely truthful person, serve the truth and achieve your goal of Jivan Mukti. As you continue on this path, and as you make more and more progress by following and living according to Gurbani, and Simran is the most important ingradient over here, and you become more and more Sachyara, your Atmik Awastha will keep on moving upwards through the Five Khands.In Sach Khand you reach Chad Di Kala – this is a very high stage of spirituality, it is the completeness stage, it comes only after reaching the Atal Awastha, means when the soul is always in the Nirlep Awastha, means can’t be distracted or deviated due to any happening around you, doesn’t bring any doubts and bharams in side you concerning the Gur, Guru and Gurbani, it is the highest stage of bandgi, it is the Puran Braham Gyan Stage, Param Padvi Stage, the Sach Khand Stage, when nothing can break you up from the Gur, Guru and Gurbani, when you have completely won over the maya. The soul becomes a single vision, no worldly sukh or dukh can effect it, no animosity with anybody, no effect of ustat or nindya, always absorbed in Almighty, always doing good to others, no harming or hurting of anybody, win over panj doots, desires and maya. This state of Chad Di Kala comes through Naam. In Gurbani this is what the Satguru’s prayed to God if it is in God’s Will, that Naam Chad di kala be given to EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD FOR THEIR UPLIFMENT. ‘Nanak Naam Chad di kala. Teray Bhanay Sarbatt Da Bhalla.” When you are this state you also help others to reach it too. That is a SANT reason for being in this world.
  4. 4 points
    lol. I was an infant in 76. Watched the movie in late 80's and became a huge fan. Don't want to go off topic here but a movie is a movie. it can't be classed as gurmat or manmat. The mat is what comes from within the individual as far as I understand. The only focus you want for "next station" is to be as thoughtless and still as possible, ready to surrender your complete self. (That's my personal suggestion). The sound you hear is positive, and by aiming to surrender in a thoughtless state. is the only way I know to help build the love. Trying to conquer different shabads never helped me but as Bhai saab says in recording you have to aim to "samao" into shabad. Please persist with patience because amrit drip and illumination of jot should come in this process. Stay motivated. I've started re-reading posts on here and listening to recordings in order to motivate myself again. Do whatever it takes to achieve this.
  5. 4 points
    Someone seeked clarification via PM of what was said in this video. Thought I would summarise some of it here. 1 Doing loads of waheguru simran leads to rom rom simran. This can be felt like if all your body hair or pores are standing up. For example like when your cold, nervous or even tickled. 2 You do Waheguru gurmantar simran to bring all your thoughts to only one word/akhar "waheguru". Eventually your mind becomes still and you slowly quieten the jaap of even waheguru leaving only a silent awareness called Sunn. 3. All that now remains is your awareness of looking at the darkness in your head but no words of thought or mental chatter remain. Just a calm presence/awareness. 4. Then people start hearing sounds. These sounds people describe and whistling or teeeteee or peeeeee or like crikets etc. Because we are not used to listening to these types of sounds and are used to words of language we find it odd and think they are meaningless and useless sounds. We still want to use words or receive words. We are not aware that the language of the Waheguru is anhad sounds/anhad bani and not words. We have not developed practise or love/pyaar in listening to these sounds. People fob them off as teetee, peeepeee tinnitus etc. Not knowing that these sounds would lead you more closer/deeper towards Sach/Truth/Nirankar if only you listened to them.
  6. 4 points

    Simran help needed!

    Absolutely! N thanks to our Gurbani that makes things clear for us.. Guru Sahib says that unclean is 'Not' the woman with periods it's that every person who is filled with an unclean mann- filth of paap. Gurbani has answers to everything in life. It's amazing!!
  7. 4 points
    Listen from 22:30 minutes where he explains stages of gurmantar jap and how to tell How to tell when Sass Giras Parpakh –Only sound of jap (Gurmantar) will remain and body will be forgotten –Rom Rom will start –Mind will enter in Sunn state either via sleep or consciously awake but silent (dhyan) –When you hear sehaj dhun in sunn then listen to this. –No load on body whilst listening (like listening in dream state) –When listening to sehaj dhun (anhad) •Jat/Sat/Sunjam •Mind will get brahm gyan •More anhad sounds •Naad - Toor (Loud Powerful Sound) •Parkash •Amrit Ras •Sunn Mandal / Astral Plane and beyond
  8. 4 points

    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    Just an update.Today marks 100 days since I quit Alcohol and Cigarettes.Still think about it once in a while but the strong urges have gone. Social life took a hit as I rarely go out any longer but no problem.It is better this way.Now is a time I get to know who my real friends are. Been doing daily some Mool mantar jaap,Japji Sahib,Chaupai Sahib,some breathing simran and I believe it is powering me to carry on. I will update again here in another 100 days.Thanks to all members here who helped me in this journey to clean up my act.
  9. 4 points
    Sibling? Wrong again. Sri Dasame Patshah Granth Sahib says that The Sodhis are descendants of Lav Kush. Do YOU trust Sri Dasme Patshahs Granth Sahib? The same Pracharaks whom you have labelled foolish do. How ? By kissing young men on the lips to impart naam jap techniques. That’s why you love ghaghri isn’t it.
  10. 3 points
    Hello Ajay, welcome. It is true, many religions describe the divnity as luminous energy, just as you mention in your post above. But as we all know, lights have different intensities. For example, we have a candle light, a tube light, a 20 watts bulb, or even a 100 watts one, just to mention a few sources... So, if the creator is for example like a Sun, then we souls having emanted from Him, are just as rays of that Sun. And just as all rays are the same, each one of them carrying the same light, the same heat.... in that sense, we all souls are same, above any barriers such as genders, classes, caste, dharam, mazab, color, race, etc etc and etc ....the list is endless. In Gurbani, in the Aarti, we come to know something on this respect: Sabh meh jot, Jot hae soee Which means, His light is in everything, He Himself is the Light. Other thing is, as per our own different karmas, we are born in different cultures, in different countries, in different religions, different races...etc But all these conditions are outer aspects, which differ in each birth of the chaurasee ka chakar .... and yet the stupids, and profoundly mentally disabled, create conflicts among themselves, hatred, thirst for blood, by killing whosoever do not think alike ...utter madness, and yet they call themselves spiritually adavnced or gyanis, or even the priest class people. Mostly all look at the different sizes and colors of the boxes, and make classifications/discriminations, as per those outer aspects, which are temporary and perishable, and yet, the essence of Truth in them all as souls, is the same in all. Such a pity, blinds commiting attrocities and unjustice. Almost everybody forgets that, nobody is better or superior to anyone else. It is just that by their own past karam, and in accordance with the Law of Nature, (as you sow, so shall you reap),each one as said above, is born in different envoirements, such as color, caste, gender, nationality, dharam or mazab..... All this is done strictly and carried under the universal law of karma. Nobody can alter it, nor bribe nature. Religious scriptures are full of references and examples, to this one law. In the Bible it says: even the hair on your body is numbered. (Nothing happensjust like that). In the Bani we read: Aapay beejeh, aapay khaaey.( You sow, you reap and eat). Going back to the point of Light as divinity mentioned in different religions, it could be well said, as all beings are also light, whether devis, devtays, incarnations, gods, godesses, angels...etc, absolutley all beings carry the light of their origin. Some beings have less or almost no stain of karmas, thus they are purer, their glass covering is not so dirty, so in them the light or purity shines more... some are heavy sinners, their glass covering is so dirty, that there is absolute darkness, ignorance, no morality in them .... and so on.... yet in the very depth of all of them, the flame of the divine is the same in all, no less, no more, no partiality. Moreover, in the infinite creation all beings are like stars in the sky, yet there is one Infinite Sun also, absolutley brilliant, full of refulgence, full of mercy, full of Love. And refering to the Light of this Highest Consciousness, Supreme and eternal Truth, Gurbani tells us: Je Sau Chanda Ugveh Sooraj Chareh Hazaar , Ete Chanan Hundeya(n) Gur Bin Ghor Andhar. If a hundred moons were to rise, and a thousand suns appeared, even with such light, there would still be pitch darkness without the Guru. And this Guru, is no other than the Aad Guru, or call it Satnam, or Waheguru also. Ooch apaar, beant Soami. So you see, each one talks of light as divinity as per their own reach or level of consciousness. According to their escalated heights, that they view that light and took it as ultimate reality. But in Gurbani, Guru Sahiban, Bhagat Jan, Gurmukhs, Sant Jan, having witnessed the refulgence and Light of that Supreme Being, Parbrahm Parmeshwar, namely Akal Purukh, Waheguru or Satnam; describe and share with us, the majesty, the inmensity, the akhoot Jot, of that One Universal Supreme Power. You see, there is a vast difference between these Purest Beings: Guru Sahiban, Sant Jan, Gurmukhs, and the rest of the beings, howsoever prophets or endless list of gods there may be. While the former, see only the Jot of Waheguru in all, thus unite humanity as equal, and give the gift of His bhakti to all alike; the limited blind ones, divide and discriminate, thus remain prisoners in the mayavee creation. If have any chances, just dive deep into the Bani, and savour the Amrit of Nam contained in it, for the ultimate purpose of blending into that Anhad Bani as one without distinction. Stay blessed. Sat Sree Akal.
  11. 3 points


    A prayer to the Lord A prayer to the Lord.mp4
  12. 3 points

    Simran help needed!

    you said it ! It is Waheguruji who has given that boon of progeny to the woman. Why would Waheguru want women to stop remembering Naam. Of what i heard that sounds logical, those days there were no sanitary pads. The level of hygiene was obviously not as good as now. Periods are accompanied with cramps and severe bleeding in many women thus giving a feeling of weakness and fatigue. The system of 'resting' during those days gave women a small vacation and other family members would take over. However, to make things understandable specially to men who at times would force women for their urges, the word 'sin/paap' has got attached. This word did act like a red signal, allowing women to rest. As time progressed this rule did act as a hindrance too.
  13. 3 points
  14. 3 points
    Ji Brij bhasha Or Braj language as we may call it is actually old Hindi, based on Avadhi Or Prakrit I guess.. It's the same script as in Hindi. Brij Is mainly related to Sri Krishna. So it's very close to Hindi Guru Gobind Singh ji as was born in Patna, Bihar region, must be well versed in this language. He is anyway Sarab kala bharpoor and we see Persian, Arabic etc too used in Jaap Sahib and Akal Ustat Bani. Guru Sahib's '52 kavis' were also learned Hindus of that times. Bhai Nandlaal ji was a great Scholar and very learned. So that may be the reason for vivid use of language and poetry. For those who speak Hindi it's easy rather n that's how I know and understand it. I am somehow fascinated with Dasam Bani so much. Though even my parents keep telling me to indulge more in SGGS ji.. Chandi di Vaar, I have included in my Nitnem and my kids also sing it.
  15. 3 points

    Sleep during meditation

    Valuable tips. Doing Simran and feeling tired is a good thing. There is a very fine line between drifting into sleep/dreamless sleep and sunn. With practice, you will be able to recognize the difference.
  16. 3 points
    mega bump. Satguru nanak dev nirankar di avtar purb diya sangata nuo lakh lakh vaadiya hove!!
  17. 3 points

    Sikhi Guidance

    This will work if you visit India only. I go to singh brothers and csjs when i go to india. Whenever I see a book that i want I look for it on amazon india as they do cash on delivery for most books. I get them sent to my aunt and then will collect them from her whenever i go. Books are a lot cheaper in india. If cost isn't an issue, then amazon usa/uk will also do international deliveries. Otherwise I have found some good books on ebay as well.
  18. 3 points
    You don't. Love can never be developed, so don't ever fool yourself into just thinking about what love is. The only way the real prem will sprout, is when you sit down and jap Nirankar's name with absolutely NO conditions.....Just sacrifice and offer yourself to him "tera, tera, tera ..." ... you have to make efforts and changes to do this. After that, it becomes effortless and God will let you know.
  19. 2 points
    Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj Nirankaar Sache Patshah Ji, Sep 24.
  20. 2 points
    Yes, abit like 'shuddi karan' operation in 1984... Its a threat that no one really cares about until it hits their own home. Growing up this is more of a working class issue or lower middle class issue. Dont want to go into this as there are big issues with educated/city type.snobbish sikhs but that is not a direct crime towards us. Like i said before this shits gonna carry on until the wrong girl is fucked with and then its gonna go wild, and all the pappu sikhs will then join the bandwagon. @dalsingh101 you may aswell give your 2 cents. In regards to whats really happening on street level. Its obvious most people dont really give a shit.. I also feel for those who do not want to get directly involved then at least spread the awareness and support those who are doing so. From people spreading awareness on this site to those active. Donate to groups such as sikhawarwness society.. like do something man.. Anyway over and out on this, fellow sikhs just spread awareness, be active if you can and most importantly support our yodeh brothers who are involved on street/ground level.
  21. 2 points
    Dhan Bhai Kanhaiya Ji Maharaj, Sep 18. Bhai Kanhaiya Guru Ke Laal
  22. 2 points
    To see and confirm the real differences between a prophet and a Bhagat Jan or Guru Sahiban, following are some verses from Sree Guru Granth Sahib, which puts each one at its own place. Awal Allah noor upaya,kudrat ke sab bandey First, Allah created the Light; then, by His Creative Power, He made all mortal beings. Ek Noor te sab jag upja,kaun bhaley ,kau mandey? From the One Light, the entire universe welled up. So who is good, and who is bad? While the former one condems and sentences to death to all those who are not of their faith, the later One, gives respect, even to those of other faiths. Not only that as respect to all others, but refers to their object of worship as the Creator Himself for all the existing creation, as a creative power, a highest level of Consciousness, namely Allah as seen above. Moreover it says, if all beings are created by that "good"power, then, who is bad or good? True religion does not promote fanatism, hatred, nor enimity towards anyone, for they see the Light of that One Supreme Being in all, while others are limited, thus remain bind to the limitations, first of their own mental pettiness, and then to the physical which is transient and perishable, thus has no spiritual reality in it. While the former gives much importance to the physical appearances, and promotes vikars such as anger, and kaam or sensual pleasures; the later tells us to discard all negativity of the "panj chor" and arise above all limitations, through love and devotion to : Guru, Satguru, Shabad Guru, Sant Jan, Gurmukhs, Bhagat Jan, which all have the Jot of Waheguru Akal Purukh manifested in them, or let us say Naam or Satnam. And the base line of the teachings of Guru Jee is, everything is false and temporary, thus do not get entangled with it, for it will only keep you as a prisoner away from your True Father and Home. Do not hurt anyone, for in the chamber of their hearts, resides Him. Each one according to their own karam, is born with their particular destiny, so respect all, for nobody has freely chosen where to be born and live. Moreover if for example, if that power Allah has created everybody and everything, and according to the laws of nature created also by Him, everything works as it should be; has it got any sense, that he will induce some as fanatics and tell them to go and kill all those who do not belong to their "dharam"? What nonsense! What a shame! Truly, madness has no limits.... Why to kill? Why? That too, when killings and inflicting pain on others is antireligion... is an outcome more of a devil than that of a Divinity. Having seen just a few differences among both, it is but just natural to get hold of the One who reunites our souls, with our origin, as seen in the Bani of Guru Jee, namely called that Jot or Power as Allah, God, Waheguru or Satnam.... words may differ, but they all point to the same Creative Power. And that One who does the reunification possible, is Guru Jee alone, none other. Dhan so vela jit darshan karnaa, haun balharee Satgur charna (above all and everything). Sat Sree Akal.
  23. 2 points
    I mean, Guru Nanak Dev Ji was not a prophet, he is Akaal Purakh Roop. Let them make noise.
  24. 2 points

    Chandi Charitar

    Vahiguru Jee Ka Khalsa, Vahiguru Jee Kee Fateh You refer to some audio tracks you have used to learn the above mentioned banis. Can you please share those links ? Also what motivated you to do these banis? Normally most people have not even heard of these banis leave aside done them?
  25. 2 points

    Am I alright?

    Most people may think that they are unwell if they encounter stages during #meditation #simran. @Soulfinder @tva prasadveerji
  26. 2 points
    tva prasad

    Am I alright?

    What asees can a mere mortal like me give? The lord is the giver and the reciever. He is all. Every comfort lies at his feet. Our father is worth all the praise.
  27. 2 points
    How do you know how I live? Do you think I'm wrapped in in these 'first world luxuries'? I've come here living amongst them, and have had to deal with them blatantly ignoring the grooming thing for decades where young girls of your own race have been abused en mass because any Sikh with any conscience should do this. Do you think that I'm in some sort of good books of the government for this? I'm not going to go into details, but don't you think they've tried to attack me for doing this? This is about facing up to the truth about these things. You seem more passionate and worried about boers than the most vulnerable people in your own community getting fed to the wolves. And it was you that came here on the ropes with his life decisions wanting advice before you give it the large veer ji. You're views are your views, you are entitled to them. If someone puts alternative opinions out on them, it isn't the end of the world. Both of us could learn something from them. I'm certainly learning that certain apnay hold views that I thought had died out decades ago. I used to hear all of what you were saying when I was younger - always from neo-nazis. So I'm familiar with it. I just didn't know that there are pockets of apnay who bought into this. Good, I'm glad you mentioned those other peoples. Especially the indigenous Americans and Aboriginals. Notice how what has happened on their lands seems to have a similar effect. It causes deep rooted dysfunction, alcoholism and drug abuse and criminality. They never had these issues before. I do have some degree of empathy for their situation. That doesn't make me a SJW or Lefty. Just human. We're only focusing on Africans because that's the example you brought up. The very same thing could be said about the other communities above. Regarding your last point. Maybe it's because the Chinese were at a much more advanced stage, and that for a very prolonged period. So for them to return back to previously established working norms for their society after colonialism, wasn't too difficult. Compare that to us, we just about, with (literally) Guru ji's grace dragged ourselves out of savagery and prolonged periods of foreign subjugation to establish some sort of independent society. Just about. On the backs of major sacrifice and facing serious savagery. Then this was attacked and dismantled after the annexation. Look where we are now. You can go to some villages in Panjab and see how the poorest people are living Jageera. It's only slightly better conditions than those Africans in the mud huts. Plus plenty of people don't live like you are describing in Africa: Look at these mansions in Nigeria for example: I'm sure you can find lots of such properties in Africa as well as shanty towns and mud huts.
  28. 2 points
    And you know what section of our community is especially good at this. You've worked with them, as I have. Strange isn't it. That's exactly what blacks experienced. I thought discussion is what we are here for???? All I'll say is that if you agree that blacks are the least of our problems, you sure hold very strong opinions about them..... "Without the Punjabi race there would be no Sikhi,mind you. No Gurgaddi was given to Madrasis,Gujratis or Bengolis. It was only Punjabis. So if you don't believe in race you have no problem with Girls in your family marrying blacks?And you will happily encourage them to do so? This is the problem. Once we stop believing in race and preserving it,we implode. No need for anyone to attack from outside." Have you checked out where the panj piaray are from bro? They weren't all Panjabi. I wouldn't have a problem with my daughter marrying a decent genuine Sikh guy whatever his colour. I've seen a few cases of others insist on their daughters marrying a certain way (like caste or whatnot) only for it to turn out very badly because the guy is abusive, alcoholic, drug addicted. Only for them to just let the rest of children make their own choices - which sadly goes outside of Sikhs. That's the reality. Do you honestly have no vision of Sikhi outside of Panjabis? Seriously?
  29. 2 points

    From nothing?

    Have a look through the below..... and
  30. 2 points

    Sleep during meditation

    Came across this video which talks about my problem in the end but no solution... Please can anybody suggest something or post few videos and links to help me overcome this. It seems m stuck. WJKKWJKF
  31. 2 points

    Suraj Kavach Astotar

    Thanks for this bro. I wil download it and take laha from it as well.
  32. 2 points
    The Sirhind Sikhs regret:
  33. 2 points
    Read these two threads
  34. 2 points
    tva prasad

    Sikhs vs ISIS (video)

    Not trying to be pessimistic but, if we look at it realistically, it is near impossible. The thing is everyone blames each other and ignore their own faults. I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone on this forum, rather I'm just saying that in general people turn a blind eye to their faults while blaming others for the same. That is where the problem starts. Cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy seem to be rather big issues, in general. I think the world would be a much better place, if instead of ridiculing eachother for faults, we focus on improving ourselves and encouraging eachother to do the same. I believe any solution is ineffective if we aren't willing to change ourselves, first, otherwise we are the biggest problem as we are doing exactly what we are opposing, this is hipocrisy and cognitive dissonance. Understanding and communication is also important among people. Further, people seem to have a rather messed up moral compass. I'm still trying to observe this behaviour. If someone is in a position of authority or in a position recognised as 'holy', people automatically assume that that person is indeed faultless. I think people tend to think in terms of black and white, they don't necessarily know what righteouness is. Righteouness is to oppose corrupt authority not to respect the same. Believe it or not, some people think that respecting authority even if they are corrupt, is morally right compared to opposing them. That is just one example among many that indicates people know not morals. It is indeed a crooked world we live in. All in all, what I wish to say is that people who are major partakers of a problem are often ignorant of their part in the same. They very frequently tend to ignore their own faults. The main thing would be to bring greater awareness on their impact on the problem. This is very hard. People will find it painful to see their own faults, it's like medicine, bitter and detestable but it is the solution. For example, if we take the bangra dancers or the booze gurglers into account, I doubt they will see much wrong with their actions. If they do, it is cognitive dissonance. Therefore, most problems stem from internal feuds or ego.
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    Sikhs vs ISIS (video)

    Yes, but not only that, but wasting time showing off, riding around in big cars blaring bhangra out. Obsessing about materialistic things and your caste whilst being blind to the panth being attacked. Being too scared to confront authority but trying to act like big men. All the dikhaavaah stuff apnay get up too. Petty one-upmanship between each other and ignoring what outsiders are doing like an ostrich.
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    Simran help needed!

    Waheguru Piyaron! I am not a Sikh ... I am Hindu but from 4 5 years i am believing in Ik Onkar and my life is going much easy! From last year i have started doing simran in the evening.. First i do Mala of Mol mantar.. And then Path Of Shiri Jap Ji Sahib.. I continued this few months then i added Choupai Sahib.. then now i have added Rehras Sahib too.. Suggest me how i can be still better? I also do two mala of Dhan Guru Nanak Chanting.. And sometimes i get alot heart in simran that i got in rhythm.. Also at some times i feel so distracted that my Eager is asking me to stop and get up still i dont get up i fight with my ego! And continues.. I am not stil able to do Amrit vaila.. So suggest me what i can to make my evening prayer even more Peacefull and conected to my Lord !
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    Where did you get this from? It isn't in the text. Note how it he is also a King, yet he is not refered to directly as such, but only the father of a Princess. However being a King, he is easily outwitted by his daughter. So the question arises what kind of intellect/shrewdness this King actually possesses. Or maybe parents should be more aware of what their offspring are doing? From this I can see that the goldsmith having a fine physique, and being handsome, women fell in love with him. So it does kind of reflect again (in the root story) of how young women are attracted to young men.
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    Simran help needed!

    Ya I can understand.. since u have grown up in such environment. But don't worry. "Jin upai medni sei de adhaar" .. path n Simran are food for soul.. he himself gives u hunger n himself provides food.Its all his game. As u have mentioned before that,the day u don't connect.. u get uneasy, irritated etc. So he will make u do it himself.. just carry on with the flow n be amazed on how he plays....
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    Dhan Sri Guru Ram Dass Ji Maharaj, April 6.
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    Anger after Paath

    Funny you mention it since I had the longest simran session few days back for about 30minutes and it was awesome. I just sat on a chair and started breathing in and out.Lights all off.Kept on doing it as long as I could and then on the lights and realized its been 30mins.
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    Anger after Paath

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    Anger after Paath

    Either use Himalayan salt or any other authentic Sea salt. In regards to the purpose, it will help you......I would say "Try it first and there's no harm and see if it helps".........If it helps, then research why and how it helped, there could be lot of reasons ranging from Minerals in the salt, Basic setup of body to Spiritual reasons, Removal of Negative energies etc. etc.......
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    I wish to take Amrit

    Nothing is gone and impossible penji.Don't do anything rash.Just consult your panj pyare first like tva prasad veerji advised.
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    I wish to take Amrit

    Thank u so much ji What to say.. this video made my situation even worse.. cos till now I was under the impression that all I need was his acceptance/ permission but if maryada says that he has to take it alongwith Only a miraculous Kirpal can help me now.. practically as per present scenario I am gone, it's impossible. Anyway pls pray for me ,is all I can say. Thank u all again for supporting. Atleast now I know m not wrong or stupid in asking or talking about Sikhi
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    It said he 'tried' to rape her. Check out this video. This sounds a bit dodgy IMO, like why did she wait 6 months before she took any form of action? The text message sent by Gagandeep Singh to Mahil was about talking something out, and Singh was well aware that she might kill him from the text he sent her but he might have underestimated her thinking a lone woman cannot kill me or something of the like. Also if she had a genuine reason for doing what she did, it would make more sense that she call the cops instead of taking the matter into her own hands. One more thing, the article portrays one side of the story, we do not have Shoker's and Peter's side of the story, since they were the ones that murdered Singh doesn't it make sense to incorporate their side of the story as well, what do they have to say? If she was the sister of a police officer surely it wouldn't be hard for her to get police help, so why then did she choose to take the matter into her own hands? If this was true why did she have two men, namely Shoker and Peters ready to kill him? This claim of her's also contradicts the text message where Singh explicitly expresses that she wants to kill him. Also why did she wait 6 months if she only wanted to "lecture" him or give him "a few slaps"? She could have easily confronted him earlier. Since Shoker was in love with her she could have easily used this against him to get what she wanted. The fact that she referred to him as her "gay friend" while speaking to others shows that she might have been ashamed of him declaring his love for social reasons and did not want to be seen as a couple by others hence "gay friend". This might also hint that she did not want him in her life, therefore she might have got him to commit a crime to get him jailed (revenge, maybe)- so basically a win/win situation for her. So, Singh "attempted rape" but didn't rape her. She underwent counselling but she was still friends with him or acted like she was friends with him. I believe she might have been too ashamed of the encounter so started to plot Singh's death using Shoker to her advantage along with Peters. If Singh had tried to rape her why was she still keeping contact with him and asking for gifts from him? Would it not be normal for her to distance herself from him had she been disturbed by the incident that happened between them. They blamed each other... hmmm... This shows that they came to realise that they had been tricked into killing Singh but now they do not want to face the punishment. Mahil has thrown them under the bus by saying she only wanted to lecture Singh and wasn't aware that Shoker and Peters would do such a thing. She clearly knew what Shoker and Peters did as they called her shortly after the doing the deed, so why does she claim she didn;t know? Did she not see them tie him up and put him in the boot of the Mercedes? Did she not see the two men drive Singh off? If she wanted to lecture him why wasn't she present with Shoker and Peters? However, if Mahil was telling the truth why did she need two men to hide in her basement until he arrived to pounce on him? If she was worried that he might try to rape her again, she could have easily got her girlfriends, no? If Mahil was "traumatised" why did she not try to stop Shoker and Peters from beating Singh up why was she just sitting there eating a Key Lime pie? Since she was friends with Shoker he would have listened to what she would have to say, right? Why didn't she stop them when they tied Singh with cables, chucked him in the boot and drove him off? Surely, she agreed with what was happening and refused to get her hands dirty as Peters and Shoker murdered Singh therefore leaving no evidence of finger prints on his body. Source: http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/mundill-mahil-darren-peters-and-harvinder-shoker/ Is there any evidence that suggests he actually raped her?
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    Is the Sikh God Evil?

    Then leave
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    Singhs of Satyug

    Is this the verse (from Sri Chandi de Vaar Sahib) which is interpreted to mean that Nihangs were part of Durga jee's forces? ਪਹਿਲਾ ਦਲਾ ਮਿਲੰਦਿਆਂ ਭੇੜੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਨਿਹੰਗਾਂ ॥੪੭॥ Bhul chuk maaf
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    ਕਬੀਰ ਮੁਹਿ ਮਰਨੇ ਕਾ ਚਾਉ ਹੈ ਮਰਉ ਤ ਹਰਿ ਕੈ ਦੁਆਰ ॥ ਮਤ ਹਰਿ ਪੂਛੈ ਕਉਨੁ ਹੈ ਪਰਾ ਹਮਾਰੈ ਬਾਰ ॥੬੧॥ ਕਬੀਰਾ ਮਰਤਾ ਮਰਤਾ ਜਗੁ ਮੁਆ ਮਰਿ ਭਿ ਨ ਜਾਨੈ ਕੋਇ ॥ ਐਸੀ ਮਰਨੀ ਜੋ ਮਰੈ ਬਹੁਰਿ ਨ ਮਰਨਾ ਹੋਇ ॥੧॥ ਲਖ ਸੂਰਤਣ ਸੰਗਰਾਮ ਰਣ ਮਹਿ ਛੁਟਹਿ ਪਰਾਣ ॥ (Ang 467) ਗਾਵਨਿ ਤੁਧਨੋ ਜੋਧ ਮਹਾਬਲ ਸੂਰਾ ਗਾਵਨਿ ਤੁਧਨੋ ਖਾਣੀ ਚਾਰੇ ॥ (Ang 08) ਮਹਾ ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਆਖਾੜੇ ਰਣ ਮਹਿ ਜਿਤੇ ਪਵਾੜੇ ॥ (Ang 379) Bhul chuk maaf
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    If you want experince pure Bir Ras its best to read banis from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib like Chandi Di Vaar,Chandi Chirtar 1 & 2, Ugardanti,Shastar Naam Mala,Brahm Kavach,Bhagauti Astotar etc. I do remember hearing that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Bani is for Sant and Sri Dasam Granth Sahib is for Saphi. Here are a few shabads i remember hearing from Guru Nanak Dev Ji and Bhagat Kabir Ji that Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindrawale mentioned in their tracks were the media people got alarmed hearing these 2 shabads. Here is the screenshots of the shabads.
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