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    Sahib got a reaction from Kaur10 in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
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    Sahib got a reaction from Kaur10 in Is Naam The Anahad Naad?   
    Ya..the initial sounds are just helpful for concentration...anhad sounds are loud and uplifiting ..they uplift your surt very fast in sukhmana nadi which gives us a flying like sensation
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    Sahib got a reaction from Kaur10 in The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)   
    So should we concentrate on such sounds like high frequence buzz or ring sounds or we should just ignore them???
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    Sahib got a reaction from harsharan000 in Is Naam The Anahad Naad?   
    not only radhaswamis,udasis,osho,yogis but now many cults are in this belief that naam in shri guru granth sahib is the soundless sound or the anahad naad .onkar is said to be the name of this sound..what are your thoughts guys?
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    Sahib got a reaction from tva prasad in Different Types/stages Of Naam   
    Lucky ji there was a saint named baba faqir chand..he was a far reached and used to properly explain stages of sun satlok etc..it will be of great help to you all if you make an effort to listen to him..you can find his satsang on youtube baba faqir chand
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    Sahib got a reaction from GurpreetKaur in Out Of Body Experiences   
    I can share my grandfathers out of body experience here..suddenly when meditating and japping he started hearing a loud noise like wind or helicopters sound..then he could felt as if something is pulling him up in air..he got scared and opened his eyes and what he saw was his body down at bed sitting in a meditative pose..and after that he just felt like he was pulled up at a fast speeed when he was a experiencing a kind of tunnel sensstion and then he saw a small white light expanding and coming near towards him.and then he totally entered into the light and he could feel as if he became that vast expansive white light all over..few minutes and suddenly felt a falling like sensation and bhumm..he was back into the body.. he opened his eyes and he could see his dark room (lights closed) Full of light..this light started fading after a minute and everything got normal..he often says that this cant be dream..he could feel the whole of that experience very real and he still remembers evry bit of it
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    Sahib got a reaction from SAadmin in True Guru Is Inside You   
    Almost all the modern religions and teachers like osho,oshodhara,radhaswami,santmat,kabir panti,anandmayee maa,eckangar,sant isher singh ji have agreed to this fact that the true guru satguru is inside you...here are some quotes from sggs which explains the same-

    .the anhad shabad is obtained contemplating the guru (21)

    . By personally experiencing the Personality of the Guru, one's own personality is uplifted, and one's light merges into the Light(27)

    .As one knows the true guru,so is the peace obtained(30)

    .without destiny,the true guru is not found even though he sits within the home of our own inner being always near and close at hand (40)

    .he himself is the true guru,he himself is the lord he himself unites in his union (41)

    .the guru is all powerful the guru is infinite.by great good fortune the blessed vision of his darshan is obtained(52)

    .the guru and god are one and the divine inbues all.those who are predestined reflect over the lords name(53)

    True love shall not be broken if true guru is met
    Obtaining the spiritual wisdom,the understanding of three worlds is acquired(60)

    .meeting the satguru i have totally transformed.i have obtained the nine treasures to use and consume and the eighteen spiritual powers.i dwell in my own home,within my own self.Anhad shabad vibrates within and i am lovingly obsorbed in the lord(91)

    .i have tasted the amrit naam by meeting the satguru.it is sweet like the juice of the sugarcane(170)

    .one who disciplines his mind attains perfection.only the mind can deal with the mind says kabeer.i have not met anything like the mind.this mind is shakti this mind is shiva,this mind is the life of the five elements.when this mind is channeled,it can describe the secrets of the three worlds(342)
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    Sahib reacted to sukrit kaur in White Light / Parkash   
    Last night I was thinking about ringing sounds and were trying to focus on these.This very early morning,I was lying on bed.I was neither sleeping nor awakening.I mean I was trying to get up.As my eyes were closed,I was thinking about several things.Suddenly,I started doing simran very rapidly.I am not sure whether it was in dream or in reality.I was in different consciousness.As speed of simran raised,I suddenly saw a kind of blast.A sudden light with round circles touched my head.As it touched,my body felt a shock and I was not even able to move my body.I tried to call my mom,it disappeared at the instant.My body was like without sensation. Does it make sense?
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    Sahib reacted to Truthseeker in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    I saw this post on Facebook page Want to Meet God
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Want-to-Meet-God/277137818974862?sk=timeline&ref=page_internal

    There was a conversation that we have forgotten...
    It happened between the lord and our soul. Your and mine, before we were sent to this world. It ran something like this:
    Lord said, "I am sending you into one of the many worlds that exist. You will play a game. There is only one thing which is definite in this game. The time you go and the time you will return."
    "You will be given one house (a body) to live in, and you shall know that the body is not the real YOU, but merely a bunch of flesh, bones and blood, like anybody else's, who is also a player in the game."
    "There is but one valuable thing that you should treasure, which is far more precious than all the wealth and jewels put together. It is the counts of breath (swaas) that i allocate to you. These cannot be changed or increased for all the money or power in the world."
    The soul asked, "And what do i have to do while I am there?"
    Lord Replied, "It is pretty simple - remember me (your father) and remember your path back home, so that you may be able to come back and visit me, whenever you feel like. You are my child, and if you fail to recognize me eventually or if you forget me you will loose the game."
    "Only if you win the game, you will be able to come back the day you die. The day you die - will be your final exam. That is the day i will find out if you did what you had to do in a lifetime (remember your real parent and visit your real home often during your stay). ..because if you did, there is nothing that can stop you from coming home straight as your body stops functioning in the worldly fashion. All the same, if you forget me, then the devils will take you away and put you into one of the deserving lives according to your deeds - animals, plants, birds, insects, etc."

    Home - Nij Ghar/Thir Ghar/Hari Ka Mandir
    Way/Passage - Dasam Dwaar/Keshghar
    Parent's Voice - Naam/Shabad/anhad baani
    Food - Amrit
    Parent's Fragrance - Best you have ever smelt
    Mann tu Jot Saroop hai, apna Mool pehchan.
    Mind you are the embodiment of Light, recognize your own origin
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    Sahib reacted to Lucky in What Is Shabad Guru?   
    Shabad Guru comes from the ONG. as in Ik Ong kaar.
    You start hearing the Ong at first but it takes a long time for it to fully manifest and for you to realise what it's all about.

    The intial yogic sounds are not shabad but vibrations and energies from your chakras that start getting aligned with gurmantar shabad.
    It's taken me over a year to realize this after going 'to and fro' many times.
    I think my understandings a little stable now,..... but you never know.... I may say something else in a few months !!!
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    Sahib got a reaction from Lucky in Out Of Body Experiences   
    I can share my grandfathers out of body experience here..suddenly when meditating and japping he started hearing a loud noise like wind or helicopters sound..then he could felt as if something is pulling him up in air..he got scared and opened his eyes and what he saw was his body down at bed sitting in a meditative pose..and after that he just felt like he was pulled up at a fast speeed when he was a experiencing a kind of tunnel sensstion and then he saw a small white light expanding and coming near towards him.and then he totally entered into the light and he could feel as if he became that vast expansive white light all over..few minutes and suddenly felt a falling like sensation and bhumm..he was back into the body.. he opened his eyes and he could see his dark room (lights closed) Full of light..this light started fading after a minute and everything got normal..he often says that this cant be dream..he could feel the whole of that experience very real and he still remembers evry bit of it
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    Sahib got a reaction from Sat1176 in Out Of Body Experiences   
    I can share my grandfathers out of body experience here..suddenly when meditating and japping he started hearing a loud noise like wind or helicopters sound..then he could felt as if something is pulling him up in air..he got scared and opened his eyes and what he saw was his body down at bed sitting in a meditative pose..and after that he just felt like he was pulled up at a fast speeed when he was a experiencing a kind of tunnel sensstion and then he saw a small white light expanding and coming near towards him.and then he totally entered into the light and he could feel as if he became that vast expansive white light all over..few minutes and suddenly felt a falling like sensation and bhumm..he was back into the body.. he opened his eyes and he could see his dark room (lights closed) Full of light..this light started fading after a minute and everything got normal..he often says that this cant be dream..he could feel the whole of that experience very real and he still remembers evry bit of it
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    Sahib got a reaction from sukrit kaur in True Guru Is Inside You   
    Almost all the modern religions and teachers like osho,oshodhara,radhaswami,santmat,kabir panti,anandmayee maa,eckangar,sant isher singh ji have agreed to this fact that the true guru satguru is inside you...here are some quotes from sggs which explains the same-

    .the anhad shabad is obtained contemplating the guru (21)

    . By personally experiencing the Personality of the Guru, one's own personality is uplifted, and one's light merges into the Light(27)

    .As one knows the true guru,so is the peace obtained(30)

    .without destiny,the true guru is not found even though he sits within the home of our own inner being always near and close at hand (40)

    .he himself is the true guru,he himself is the lord he himself unites in his union (41)

    .the guru is all powerful the guru is infinite.by great good fortune the blessed vision of his darshan is obtained(52)

    .the guru and god are one and the divine inbues all.those who are predestined reflect over the lords name(53)

    True love shall not be broken if true guru is met
    Obtaining the spiritual wisdom,the understanding of three worlds is acquired(60)

    .meeting the satguru i have totally transformed.i have obtained the nine treasures to use and consume and the eighteen spiritual powers.i dwell in my own home,within my own self.Anhad shabad vibrates within and i am lovingly obsorbed in the lord(91)

    .i have tasted the amrit naam by meeting the satguru.it is sweet like the juice of the sugarcane(170)

    .one who disciplines his mind attains perfection.only the mind can deal with the mind says kabeer.i have not met anything like the mind.this mind is shakti this mind is shiva,this mind is the life of the five elements.when this mind is channeled,it can describe the secrets of the three worlds(342)
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    Sahib got a reaction from harsharan000 in True Guru Is Inside You   
    Almost all the modern religions and teachers like osho,oshodhara,radhaswami,santmat,kabir panti,anandmayee maa,eckangar,sant isher singh ji have agreed to this fact that the true guru satguru is inside you...here are some quotes from sggs which explains the same-

    .the anhad shabad is obtained contemplating the guru (21)

    . By personally experiencing the Personality of the Guru, one's own personality is uplifted, and one's light merges into the Light(27)

    .As one knows the true guru,so is the peace obtained(30)

    .without destiny,the true guru is not found even though he sits within the home of our own inner being always near and close at hand (40)

    .he himself is the true guru,he himself is the lord he himself unites in his union (41)

    .the guru is all powerful the guru is infinite.by great good fortune the blessed vision of his darshan is obtained(52)

    .the guru and god are one and the divine inbues all.those who are predestined reflect over the lords name(53)

    True love shall not be broken if true guru is met
    Obtaining the spiritual wisdom,the understanding of three worlds is acquired(60)

    .meeting the satguru i have totally transformed.i have obtained the nine treasures to use and consume and the eighteen spiritual powers.i dwell in my own home,within my own self.Anhad shabad vibrates within and i am lovingly obsorbed in the lord(91)

    .i have tasted the amrit naam by meeting the satguru.it is sweet like the juice of the sugarcane(170)

    .one who disciplines his mind attains perfection.only the mind can deal with the mind says kabeer.i have not met anything like the mind.this mind is shakti this mind is shiva,this mind is the life of the five elements.when this mind is channeled,it can describe the secrets of the three worlds(342)
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    Sahib got a reaction from Sat1176 in Deep Spiritual Stuff With Examples - Ishwar Puri   
    Ishwar puri ji told me to search for the sound of tinkling of small bells.if you hear that thn pay attention..otherwise just let the sounds come and go...when the real bell sound will come it will have a pulling power and can rise your surt easily..but it takes time to reach that big bell sound
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    Sahib reacted to BhagatSingh in Meditation - My Experiance, Am I Allowed To Share?   
    You devil

    Does she meditate now?

    Totally, I initially noticed it when I would wake up doing simran sometimes or I wake up and its so peaceful and effortless. I tend to sing simran and do meditation on the body in formal sittings, so it's usually the latter, where my body is super relaxed and I can feel all of it.
    Then a couple years later, I started having dreams where I would go into a meditation inside the dream and my dhyan would be fixated while I was still dreaming.
    Then recently, I found myself waking up in the middle of the night and there was just blackness and this really loud horn, almost machine-like sound ZUUURRRRRR. Very strange. I found myself in a state of dhyan and slowly coming out of it. I noticed that my breath was completely out of whack. I was trying to breathe to keep it going and in doing so I lost the state.
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    Sahib reacted to harsharan000 in What Is Shabad Guru?   
    A beautiful and a very meaningful question raised by Jathedar||Jathedarni.

    Shabad Guru, means the Shabad is the Guru. Now let us see, what does the word Guru mean? The word guru is composed by 2 syllables. The first one gu, means darkness, and the second one ru, means light, so the word by itself means the one who takes us from darkness towards the light.

    This guru, usually is meant for teachers, professors, who teach us and prepare us with the knowledge as sciences, arts and sports... In each and every field, we have to learn something from some "master" or "ustaad".

    Now what is Shabad? Shabad in true sense, mentioned in the Bani, is as same as Wahiguru Akal Purukh, as Satnam, as Alakh Purukh, as Agam Purukh... as Anamee...different terms, but one supreme reality.

    And this Shabad, is Nirankar also, and morover the Bani tells us: Sach Khand vaseh Nirankar. This Shabad is also the Aad Guru by itself, since the very begining without any end, means, He is a perfect Guru by Himself, He did not have to learn anything from anybody, as He is the very first, without any second. The Bani in the mool mantra, very beautifully says:

    Ik Onkar : there is only one Creator

    Satnam: He is truth, means He exists forever, He is eternal, and His nature is Nam, or call it Shabad. So Satnam means, the Nam which is everlasting, throughout in the eternity. When the Gurmukhs use the term Truth, they refer it to something which is everlasting and is unchangeable. So, in this sense, that Nam, is Sat, means it is everlasting, is eternal.

    Karta Purukh: He is the creator of all the creation, all the khands, brahmands, astral, causal and the pure spiritual realms or regions, with its rulers, up to Sach Khand, where He is resides, and that realm is also eternal and changeless like Him, that is why, the term Sach, is put before Khand, which means region.

    Nirbhav, Nirvair: He is fearless and without any enemity with anybody, who is He to be afraid of? Who is above Him?

    Akal Moorat: He is beyond the parameters of time and space, so He is eternal in terms of time.

    Ajoonee: He does not die or is born like us, because He is birthless.

    Seibhang: He exists by Himself, He is self sufficient, He depends on nobody, He is all by Himself.

    My God, see how beautifully, and in a simplified manner, our Guru Sahibans have described the undescribable.

    So that Shabad is an avastha, a highest level of consciousness, which is in simple words, is Sach-Chit-Anand, means everlasting truth, all consciousness, and all bliss. It is a life force existence by itself.

    Now when we say, Shabad Guru, it means, that Shabad which is all pervading(sarva vyapak), all powerfull(sarva shakti shalee), all knowing(anteryamee), He irradiates light of wisdom, of kowledge, and love, anybody in the presence of this nam or Shabad, gets showered by its light(gyan, purity), knowledge(chetanta), and love(prem, bakshish).


    Now, where, what for and why does He comes to manifest Himself. For these questions the Guru Granth Sahibs tells us:

    Har Jee baseh sadh ke hirdey...Harjee baseh Sadh kee rasna... Har ka sevak, so Har jeha, bhed na jaano manush deha ... Nanak, Sadh, Prabh, bhed na bhaee... in summary, the bani says, He is to be found in His manifestations as Sadhs, as Gurmukhs. That is why, these Sadhs, these Gurmukhs, will always lay importance on one Wahiguru, and its real nature of Shabad, and the only method of Nam Simran, to realize Him and merge in Him. These Gurmukhs may come at any time or any place, time and place is no boundary for them, but their main teachings will always be of Nam and Shabad, as it is the only reality. They will not come to create any new dharma, or confuse and engage us with useless futile outer activities, neither they mix up into politics.... their only concern is Wahiguru and its bhakti through Nam Simran....they do not dress in any particular way, nor do they do anything(perform miracles) to attract masses, they earn their own living bread, and they will always say: you are the living temple, where Wahiguru resides, so worship Him there...the rest of the creation is "fanaah" perishable, is consciousless, or subhuman lower species, just as plants, insects, birds, fishes and animals, in which, He is not to be found. The human form, is the only privileged form, for this blessed realization, this form is also called "Nar Naryanee deh".


    Gurmukhs can be at any times or palces, like our Guru Sahibans, or the rest of Gurmukhs, some mentioned in our Bani, like: Kabir Sahib, Guru Ravi Das... and others like Paltu Sahib, Dariya Sahib, Sant Tukaram . If we see the teachings of all these Gurmukhs, Nam or Shabad, is their main objective , through Nam Simran alone... these are the visible signs among them, so to say, to recognize them.

    But to recognize them, is not in our hands at all. This type of Gurmukh maybe our very neighbour, oe even born in our house as a family member, but if we are not destined to recognize and accept Him, we shall never be able to do so.

    For example, Prithi Chand, had a father, and a brother as Gurmukhs , but inspite of being so near them, and having their darshan so much, he failed to recognize them, what a pity... But the thing is, no one can go against His will. On the other side you may be living seven seas away, but you will autmatically get pulled to a Gurmukh, because Wahiguru has so willed.

    Now the following questions, of what for or why does He come? According, to the teachings our Gurus, He comes to awaken us from our deep sleep, for we have forgotten our origin, and have been once again fallen off from the track of real bhakti, and have entangled ourselves in squareminded religions, outer practices, like pilgrimamges, baths at so called holy places...and a large list of these practices.

    As Wahiguru is the only reality, and if we have to reach the undescribable One, Nirankar; so naturally, only the resident of that Anamee Region, call it Sach Khand if you want, is the only capable and all powerfull one, to take back with Him, whom He wants so.Otherwise we are all wandering astray in the Chaurasee ka chakar...

    So He comes and manifests Himself in the form of a Gurmukh, as seen according to the Guru Granth Sahib. But what for?
    For our liberation from maya, and Kal Purukh, who have kept us prisoners here ...up to the region of Braham or Trikuti.

    Naturaully only the one beyond from Braham, means Paarbraham Parmeshwar, which is the only power, superior,to defeat, these barriers in the way of the soul towards its destination, Sach Khand.

    Now, this Shabad, works as Guru for the soul, towards the Sat, shows and guides him through the path of Nam, with its light and sound of Shabad.

    This is when we say Shabad Guru, Dhun Chela...means the real form of the Gurmukh is Shabad, and the real form of a sikh, the disciple is the soul. Neither the Satguru is the body, neither the sikh is the body, beacuse both of them, shall have leave their physicall coverings(bodies) sooner or later, but the evolution and progress continues, through out all astral causal and spiritual stages, with the company of the Shabad Guru, who once got hold of that particular soul on the earth plane, by giving it the Gurparsad, the updesh, the bakshish.

    And that is why also, the Bani says: Sant sang, Prabh anter deetha. Means, in the company now of Shabad, who once was a Gurmukh, a Sant , a Sadh while I was on the earth present like Him, and got His Gurparsad. That is why the bani says: Ik Onkar, Satgur parsad, means the only one Wahiguru Akal Purukh, can be realized by the Gurprasad got from a Gurmukh, because if there is no Gumukh, where can Gurparsad be got?

    And so He can never be unjust to us His children, He knows, without Gurparsad we naver ever get true freedom...so naturally He has to continue come, time after time as a Sant, a Gurmukh... a Sadh.

    The Bani says: Sant parsad, jaapiye Har Nao, means, the gurparsad a Gurmukh gives us as a blessing, through its jaap, its kamaee, its bandagee, is the valid method to reunite us with Akal Purukh.

    I know many may object what I say, because we have different backgrounds and envoiremnets, where we have been brought up, but if given a deeper insight to the Bani, we shall see the logic side and its real meaning.

    People along the history, have tried to hide the truths of the Bani, and have thus twisted its meaning, because themselves are agyanis, and have have done a big unjustice to the humanity, by hiding and twisting the truths of the Bani, but as long as Gurmukhs go on coming at our human level, the truths of the Bani, shall be presented to us, in a logic and rational manner, only then, can real unwavering faith be planted in us.


    Wah wah, Sachay Badshah, Ooch Apaar Beabt Soami, kaun jaane guna Tere.
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    Sahib reacted to Sat1176 in ~~ Whats Your Ultimate Goal In Following Sikh Dharma ~~   
    To hear Satnaam 24x7 and see Waheguru both on the inside and outside.

    My biggest hinderance is lack of consistent effort in doing simran and self doubt.
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    Sahib reacted to Lucky in Is It Necessary To Jap Naam In Same Tone And Speed Everyday For Better Progress?   
    No, that's fine bro.
    I think that you should do it at whatever speed or rate that you feel settled in.... I remember that for a very long time, I used to find it easier to start off at a certain continuous rate.. and then later I too would slow down as surti went more inwards... and the breathing would also get very shallow.

    Remember that these techniques are just tools for this game of our mind... the object is to try and still it whilst keeping it's focus on waheguru and waheguru only.......So in my opinion, I don't think it really matters which way you do it as long as you can catch that mind from running in 10 directions and point it towards Akaal Purakh.


    Oh yeah... another thing is that don't get in too much thought about trying to stop your thoughts either !!...(what??)
    You see, we can end up just keeping our focus on trying to stop thoughts and then find that the mind is getting even busier by trying to catch and halt these very thoughts !!
    I used to find that I often did this and would end up getting frustrated instead.

    I remember that on here somewhere our bro Bhagat ji advising that you should become the ''observer'' instead... and just sit and observe the thoughts one by one but don't larch onto them. So, I took his advice and started this approach instead of trying to hammer down every thought that kept arising........ and in time my mind adapted and it became easier !! ...thanks Bhagat !
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    Sahib reacted to Guest in Turiya- Chauta Padh- Very Nice Article   
    I guess the best way way to put it is to avoid confusion - Guru is same all across (regardless whichever form sargun/shabad/self form), its just we see it as sargun, shabad according to our perceptions and avastha. The problem arises only when one confines gurparsad to only sargun form so much so they end up confining satguru role to only gurparsad in sargun form only whereas in reality- satguru/gurparsad is self/nirgun, shabad and sargun....truth is here and now..grace is here and now...mere mortal thinks that thought or desire of mukhti it his- looking outside to seek gurparsad but in fact satguru is already giving its form of gurparsad so that seeker can even have a thought of mukhti...satguru is already giving its gurparsad in form of self/nirgun..its way to draw seeker to itself but mere mortal ignores(inadvertently) divine wisdom within which comes in form of inner thought coming from satguru -self and end up looking outwards with dualistic perception ...!!!!!!!!
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    Sahib reacted to PAL 07 in Turiya- Chauta Padh- Very Nice Article   
    Even the Buddha says there is no God. This is part of advait philosophy. Gurparsaad in mool mantra means the acquisition of gyaan. This gyaan is realized. This is gurparsaad. The grace of God. In sikhi guru and God are the same.

    So actually you do not need a guru. Bhagata sadhana was a butcher he had no guru. Read bhagat parmanands shabad it delves into this very question. I would disagree with hsingh6, who seems to think that guru will appear and put his hand on your head and you will then get gurparsaad. He seems to mortify the shabad gurparsaad.
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    Sahib reacted to Guest in Turiya- Chauta Padh- Very Nice Article   
    hsingh, you may be taking it out of context.

    Author is not challenging god existence per say (as book mentions bhraman/paratma/atma many times) or Gurparsad or importance of Satguru, but rather author is stating enlightenment can be attained without dogmatic concept of god/christian version of god/ dogmatic notions of religious notions/rituals which is taught in outer layer of mainstream religions
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    Sahib reacted to harsharan000 in Shabad Guru Surat Dhun Chela   
    On the majesty and inmensity of Shabad as Guru, and the relation of the soul with it, as a disciple or chela, Dhan Dhan Satguru Amar Das Maharaj, sheds some more light for us moorakhs manmukhs in His Bani in Raag Sarang :

    ਜੀਆ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਸਬਦੁ ਹੈ ਜਿਤੁ ਸਹ ਮੇਲਾਵਾ ਹੋਇ
    Jeeaa Andhar Jeeo Sabadh Hai Jith Seh Maelaavaa Hoe
    जीआ अंदरि जीउ सबदु है जितु सह मेलावा होइ
    In all the living beings, the soul is a particle of Shabad. And through it we meet Him.

    Here He cleary tells us, that all living forms, irrespective of, their sizes, colors or shapes..... as long they are alive, or their is life in them, it is because the soul as a particle of that primal energy named Shabad, is present in them for that time being.

    It is not alive because it breathes, but because the soul is present there, Breathting is just a function of the body, and the breathing goes on, as long as the soul stays/remains there.


    ਬਿਨੁ ਸਬਦੈ ਜਗਿ ਆਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੇਰੁ ਹੈ ਸਬਦੇ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ
    Bin Sabadhai Jag Aanhaer Hai Sabadhae Paragatt Hoe
    बिनु सबदै जगि आन्हेरु है सबदे परगटु होइ
    Without the Shabad, the world is in darkness. Through the Shabad, it is enlightened.

    Then He says, without this Shabad Guru, there is utter darkness in the creation. Only when this Shabad manifests itself as Shabad Guru, we get enlightment of the one Truth, Wahiguru Akal Purukh.

    And when we say we get enlightment, then who are we? Are we those of a particular community, caste, color or creed?
    No.
    Because as Guru Jee made clear in His first line, The enlightment is for the mind, which is an obstacle in our way towards Wahiguru. Just as in darkness, the theives steal, or the evil doers commit sins, so in agyanta, we moorakhs are entangled in manmukhta, and in name of dharam, mazab, a lot of atrocities are commited, a lot of nonsense is said and followed blindly.
    Mind works in full force, while the poor soul is asleep, but once one´s soul is under the sunlight(gyan of Gurmat), the thieves run away, as now the owner of the house is awake. So it is essential for us, to take shelter of the Bani by practicing what it says, and workout our salvation in time before the yam doots come and snatch us from our hair, by not taking refuge in Naam Simran.


    ਪੰਡਿਤ ਮੋਨੀ ਪੜਿ ਪੜਿ ਥਕੇ ਭੇਖ ਥਕੇ ਤਨੁ ਧੋਇ
    Panddith Monee Parr Parr Thhakae Bhaekh Thhakae Than Dhhoe
    पंडित मोनी पड़ि पड़ि थके भेख थके तनु धोइ
    The Pandits, the religious scholars, and the silent sages read and write until they are weary. The religious fanatics are tired of washing their bodies.

    In the line above, He clears our doubts even more. He says, all that is done as devotion or bhakti by means of the body such as rituals and ceremonies, or outer venerations, that is darkness which runs away, but lighting on, Gurmat in our lives.

    ਬਿਨੁ ਸਬਦੈ ਕਿਨੈ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ਦੁਖੀਏ ਚਲੇ ਰੋਇ
    Bin Sabadhai Kinai N Paaeiou Dhukheeeae Chalae Roe
    बिनु सबदै किनै न पाइओ दुखीए चले रोइ
    Without the Shabad, no one attains the Lord; the miserable depart weeping and wailing.

    Then in the next line as seen above, He goes one step further, and tells us, if one does not hold on to the Shabad Guru, one can never ever merge in the Lord. Then it will be too late, with no time left to rectify our foolishness. Then even if one weeps and wails, the yam doots will not stop even for a moment. These messengers of death will say stop protesting you foolish man, Wahiguru gave you a whole life, and you just waisted it after peanuts and stones.... And so what is that true wealth, to be gathered before one dies?
    Or what is that holding and giving oneself to the Sahabd Guru?
    Well, it is placing one´s hope only on Him, through His Shabad, and thus through His Naam Simran. As simple as that.

    ਨਾਨਕ ਨਦਰੀ ਪਾਈਐ ਕਰਮਿ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ਹੋਇ
    Naanak Nadharee Paaeeai Karam Paraapath Hoe
    नानक नदरी पाईऐ करमि परापति होइ
    O Nanak, by His Glance of Grace, the Merciful Lord is attained.

    And so in this His last line above, Guru Jee is saying, that soul is a wadbhagee soul, who recieves His Daya Meher, does that devotion which pleases Him the most, which is as seen, Naam Simran, thus that soul frees it chains with the wheel of the eighty four, and merges in the Lord for once and forever.

    Waheguru bless all.
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    Sahib reacted to harsharan000 in Does Any Of The 10 Gurus Used To Do Meditation?   
    Sahib Jee,
    please allow me to differ from you. Meditation is not a wide word at all from my point of view. To meditate, is just to think deeply upon something.

    That much simple.

    But, different thing is, where that meditation takes us.

    Meditating is like driving a car.

    Now, each one has different needs and destinations to go. Some may have to go to the office, some may have to go to leave their children to the school, others may have to go the hospital, still others to the police to complain about being robbed, some to supermarket to buy grocery, etc.

    Everryone drives the car to reach a different destiny, but that does not mean, driving is wide or difficult. But rather it means, wherever one has to go, one reaches there by driving.

    In a similar way, meditation is trying to reach higher levels of consciousness in the spiritual realms. Some have Swarg as thier final destinantion, others Baikunth, some others Shivpuri, others long for devis, devtas, etc......

    We can see, each jeeva working out their destinies .....

    And in sikhee, we are not less also.

    By His grace, He is our only supreme objective and destiny, we do not look here or there, only forward, towards Him through Gurmat.

    Just today I was reading a passage from the Bani, and coincidentally I think, it answers your question in the quote above,just as you wanted it from the SGGS, it is all Wahiguru´s kirpa, bro Sahib.

    It is wonderful, it is just amazing, how Guru Jee answers our queries in simple words, revealing us the Truths which otherwise would be quite imposible to understand Him....

    Raag Kaanrhaa, Bani Sree Guru Ram Das Maharaj, here it goes :

    ਹਮਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਜਗਜੀਵਨਾ ਹਰਿ ਜਪਿਓ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਰ ਮੰਤ
    Hamarae Har Jagajeevanaa Har Japiou Har Gur Manth
    हमरे हरि जगजीवना हरि जपिओ हरि गुर मंत
    I meditate on my Lord, the Life of the World, the Lord, chanting the Guru's Mantra.

    Here He clearly says, I mediate on my Lord Wahiguru, doing the jaap, repeating the Gur Mantra, for instance Wahiguru.....



    And in the following line, He openly tells us , what happens if we do this sacred practice of Naam Simran.

    He says:

    ਹਰਿ ਅਗਮੁ ਅਗੋਚਰੁ ਅਗਮੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਆਇ ਅਚਿੰਤ
    Har Agam Agochar Agam Har Har Miliaa Aae Achinth
    हरि अगमु अगोचरु अगमु हरि हरि मिलिआ आइ अचिंत
    The Lord is Unapproachable, Inaccessible and Unfathomable; the Lord, Har, Har, has spontaneously come to meet me.


    By this He means, that, Wahiguru who otherwise is Agam Agochar(Unapprochable, Inaccesible and Unfathomable), by meditating upon Him, doing the jaap of the Gur Mantra, that very Lord, spontaneously, easily, effortlessly, comes and meets me by His Grace....

    Sahib jee and dear all Sangat jee, just keep gazing at the beauty and sweetness in these words of Guru Jee above....


    Ooouch Apaar Beant Waheguru.
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    Sahib reacted to harsharan000 in Does Any Of The 10 Gurus Used To Do Meditation?   
    Sahib Jee,
    the SGGS is full of countless tuks on meditation, as per means of devotion to Him and thus our union with Him, by merging in Him.

    Following are some beautiful words of Dhan Dhan Satguru Ram Das Maharaj from Raag Dhanasree, regarding your question:

    jan naanak ka-o. gur ih mat deenee jap har bhavjal tarnaa.
    The Guru has blessed servant Nanak with this understanding,
    that by meditating on the Lord, we cross over the terrifying world-ocean


    Have we ever asked ourselves, what is the purpose, what is the objective of Sikhee?

    Is it not, our union with our beloved Wahiguru?

    And if Wahiguru or Shabad Guru is not something physical or material, then how will we ever merge in Him? Because for sure, it is not our body, which is going to merge in Him....

    Neither the mind ......

    Then, what is left as such which can merge in Him?

    Naturally, the answer is our soul consciousness.

    And the teachings tell us, our soul is covered by layers of filth of karmas, and two more coverings, such as astral and causal bodies.

    So meditation is, just like heating water, it impulses our souls upwards, towards subtle spiritual planes.

    Then reaching there, one has two options, either one keeps wandering in Maya there, or either, one holds on to the Anhad Shabad, and gets pulled out from the realms of matter, mind and maya, by the powerful hand of Shabad Guru, who then places us at the Lotus Feet of Wahiguru Akal Purukh.

    So brother, simran + bhajan = meditation, which unites us with Him.

    Sat Sree Akal.
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