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I know this topic is old but I really want to watch this movie. Can someone help me out?

This is something I'm confused about. Are you supposed to let them merge or keep them seperated?

A few things have happened since last night. I started hearing two tones - one on the left and one on the right. I was laying in bed but awake. It woke me up a few times as well. I was in a rush to get to school this morning so didn't get much time in but I had a few moments where it seemed like rom rom went below the heart. I could feel the pulse/vibration slightly above the belly button. Is this the place where it's supposed to be or is the nabhi lower? I wish I had more time, it felt like I was going into sunn but had to force myself to get up and go to school. Saas saas helped amplify the recognition of the pulse. The tones were also at full blast. First on the right side. And then I was able to latch onto one in front of me and one behind. Left side was very faint. It actually felt slightly awakward because it seemed like some sort of imbalance. *Edit* - I should also mention the breath was very slightly heavier in the right nostril --> I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it. While the tones were happening it also felt as if this new energy/force was present in the mind. It's hard to explain. And the energy was moving around the space within the mind. And the mind was expanding. (I don't know if that makes any sense).

Everything in this last post was exactly what I needed. It all makes so much sense now and I have a clear direction on what I need to do. I can’t thank you enough for this. I’ve been confused for over a year. Just one last thing - it’s a bit of good news that I wanted to share. Paun is close to being sum. The nose is going through longer periods where both nostrils are breathing in at the same time and breathing out at the same time. Sometimes it’s heavier on one side but after some time it goes back to being balanced and fully open. This has only been happening since yesterday and I haven’t had a chance to experiment with it. And I’m noticing when the breath is balanced sounds get extremely loud and mind becomes stable/calm.

I'm still struggling trying to get to the point where I hear shabad and not the other sounds within the body. Here's a question @Sat1176 and I have been talking about today. Sat found an answer but I want to see what everyone else has to say about it. @Lucky maybe you could shed some light on this? There are two answers gurmukhs give in regards to getting naam pargat. 1) Some say to sit and wait in sunn 2) Others say to stay awake and do baikhri bani --> So the question is, which is more effective? I have been struggling for so long with this. Spontaneous experiences occur but I have not been able to get to the point where naam is pargut and becomes a normal aspect of my life. The other thing that I'm confused about ---> Rom rom is happening. The mind is quiet enough to hear the heartbeat and sometimes even automatically begins jaap with the heartbeat. But how do you go lower towards the nabhi? I hear nothing below the heartbeat. I started using the earplug method as well. And even doing simran with earplugs in. It's been pretty effective. Mind quiets down faster and heartbeat/other sounds get amplified. I usually hear sounds on the right and very occasionally they get centred in the middle of the head. No sounds coming from the heart yet (only sound is the sound of the heartbeat). I want to also mention the sounds that I hear are soothing and they calm the mind/body but I know they aren't what the goal is.

I've really been confused about this topic for the past few weeks so I thought I would ask about it. I tried looking through other topics but because my knowledge/terminology is limited I kept getting even more confused. Could someone help me understand what the types of sleep are? I commonly drift into a sleep where there is complete stillness and peace but many gurmukhs have said to try and stay awake/focus on jaap. I recently came across this video and it gives a decent explanation of what happens: But my question is - is any spiritual progress being made in this sleep? Why don't I hear anything in this sleep? What has to occur on a sukham level for sound to arise? I think the main confusion has to do with the fact that the mind is "still" (while in that sleep) but there is no sound - But I thought sound would be heard when the mind is still. Many other sounds are heard outside of sleep but none of them are true shabad. Just as an FYI - these are just questions that I keep having and want to clear them up. I'm not trying to stay in sleep for long periods of time. It happens frequently but I go back to gurmantar as soon as I'm awake.

I had a pretty cool experience yesterday that I thought I'd share. I was sitting on a bench in my school's library. It was around 9:50 am and I needed to kill time until 11. Saas Saas was automatically going so I just started following it and focusing on the internal jaap. I started to hear my heartbeat as the mind was getting quieter and then the jaap started to transition to the heartbeat. Eventually, the focus got so strong that I would get absorbed into the jaap, thoughts would stop and I lost awareness of everything around me. Then moments would come where my curiosity would notice what's happening and everything would stop and I'd go back to saas saas. At one point I was absorbed in the heartbeat and it felt like someone lightly punched me around the navel area (this was the only time something other than thoughts caused my focus to break). The focus on the heartbeat was on and off until eventually, it got so strong that I completely knocked out. I woke up around 11:15 feeling so much peace and mental stability. I remember someone posted an analogy where they said the power from baikhri bani is like 1 unit, madhma 100 units, pasanti 1000 units etc. I never understood this but after what happened yesterday I think I know what they meant.

I don't often speak out about this but I generally do not agree with a lot of ideas like these. Maybe things are lost in translation. But sometimes it seems like these hukams only apply to Sikhs (for example - you cannot wear a certain colour or you must wear kakkars etc). So by default it would be saying that anyone who isn't a sikh would go into joon. Various hukams are there to aid in the path. They keep you away from doing things that will hurt your spirituality. But why would someone who hears shabad, drinks amrit etc (but does not follow certain hukams) go into joons? I'm sorry to be that guy who everyone hates listening to. But honestly, I don't think blind faith and following are a reasonable way to do bhagti. It's more worthwhile to do the practical bhagti as per gurmat and experience what gurbani says you will experience.

Your replies are always so spot on. I remember you mentioned something about hearing voices and mumbling once (I couldn't find a link to the post). But this has begun as well. But again the mind does not react to the experience. It's a very careless attitude. The voices are just mumbles, it does not seem like there's a meaning behind the message. Saas giras/saas saas have become so smooth with the breath. All day and night it's on automode. Just like the way the heart beats and the breath flows - gurmantar is on automode. Sound starts blasting whenever I'm in a quiet place. Esepcially throughout the night. I talked to a few gurmukhs when I was away and they said this isn't sacha shabad yet. I'm under the assumption that it's dev lok shabad because the mind goes into a satoguni state of mind. But during this time is when the intoxication takes over. In katha gurmukhs always mention that once saas giras/saas saas start going day and night, the next stage is for shabad to start. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens in the next few weeks. Spending time with sangat and gurmukhs was the best thing I've ever done. Ever since I came back everything has been progressing faster than ever. Going into sunn is so much easier. Life is spent in the present moment and the feelings of shaanti are priceless. The only desire is the desire to go back home and see my father. We need to learn how to live in tregun during the day but go home to our father at night.

This has nothing to do with health. Spirituality is on track as well. I beleive it's probably just a personality trait - it may or may not be linked with bhagti. The only thing that concerns me is whether this "no cares given" attitude is dangerous. Sometimes I ask myself, "Should I be worried about finishing school and making money?" "Should I be worried about getting married in the future?" The entire world is racing to be at the top and I just feel myself laying back and relaxing like a spectator. Gurbani says everything is based on karam. So I don't see the point in worrying about anything. Like I said before - the only reason why I question this carefree attitude is because everyone else is stressed out over these things. So it gives me the thought that maybe I'm supposed to be concerened about these things. I don't see their stress as a bad thing because what they're chasing is essential for sukh in tregun, survival and reproduction. And I also think being completely careless about these things shouldn't be an issue (keyword is I think). But at the same time I just want to make sure I'm not throwing myself into something that I'll regret 10 years down the road.

I hope this isn't just me but doesn't life ever feel pointless? Especially when it comes to consumerism and human interaction. It seems like either I'm going crazy or everyone else is. All of a sudden it feels as if everything is boring and pointless. Eating, sleeping, showering, having friends, relationships, families, social media, having fun, etc. Especially in my age range the norms that people chase include; finishing school, trying to get married, buying nice cars, going out and having fun with friends. I've tried so many of those things... I even went out and bought an Audi with a manual transmission because I thought it would lead to a bit of a thrill... it's fun on a superficial level but deeper down it also seems so pointless. There are no cares or worries about laws or societal norms either. I don't think I'd ever do something illegal, but even so there is no care about being penalized. Nor is there care about authority. People talk about addictions and impulsions - but I look at that and it all just seems very odd. Then there are people searching for their life's purpose - but even that just seems so irrelevent. During these past few days I've become so bored interacting with friends and family. There's no care or worry about anyone or anything. It's like all of a sudden I just don't give a shit about anything. I am definitely not in depression because there is no sadness but when I google the symptoms it comes up as depression. Spiritually everything seems like it's on track. But now when experiences arise they also seem pointless. This body, this breath, these concepts of dhyaan and inner cleansing... it's as if all titles and labels are gone. Sadness, happiness, sukh, dukh, anand... all of these come and go but deeper down there's something that just does not care about any of them. I'm not sure if this links with the philophy of advaita vedanta or if I'm just going crazy. If I talk about this around people they tell me to go see a psychiatrist.

Also forgot to mention working out - Lift at least 3 times a week. But 5-7 would be extremely good. Strengthen both mind and body. Grow the warrior side - I don't know why but working out has always pushed me to fight the internal battle with dhoots.

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I remember talking to people like @Lucky and @Sat1176 about this issue a few years ago. I am happy to say that with waheguru's kirpa this issue has been long gone. You need to ask yourself what is more important in life? A few minutes of pleasure vs becoming the most badass dude in all of your social groups. There are two main areas of benefit if you give up this habit - I can expand on whichever point appeals to you the most. ***These are not googled benefits, these are benefits that I have experienced in my life - I am sure everyone will experience these if they stay away from indulging in kaam*** 1) The benefits in tregun - the physical aspects of your life More energy Better mood More masculine energy, testosterone, etc Which also has manifest as more physical and emotional strength And I believe this has also created a more carefree personality - somewhat like James Bond (very calm, cool and collected) More dominance in social interactions - with men and women Talking less and communicating more with your body language is a very masculine trait - conserving sexual energy has lead to this trait developing on its own. I've noticed that you can communicate with your eyes better than you can with words. Even when you see a good looking girl it does not affect you after some point - this takes a lot of masculinity - your standards in women go up - you look further than looks - you look to see what can be offered beyond the physcial appearance - Just by observation I've realized the female mind is very pulled in by someone who has this trait/mindset - Girls are very pushed away by guys who give the "desperate vibe" aka the one's who are constantly filled with desires and cannot control their eyes. It feels as if an energy has been created that just pulls in both men and women. You will dominate the entire social world. Everyone will want to be your friend. Deeper voice More assertiveness More ambition Better facial appearance Fat drops quickly and muscle is gained quickly Better sleep Which also has lead to waking up becomming easier Massive levels of motivation Confidence in every aspect of life becomes booming Self control Improved mental performance Tendency to eat healthier I could probably go on but you get the point - *** You will become a super hero - every aspect of your life will improve - You will become the manliest of men*** 2) The benefits in the nirgun (formless aspects of your life) NO WORDS - Words will never do justice (but I can give it a shot) Sometimes you will just be sitting somewhere (maybe doing school work or just hanging out with people) and you'll feel as if you're just drifting into an infite pool of bliss Thoughts will decrease and be almost non existent somedays That's the most I want to say - the rest needs to be experienced - again... words will never do justice So my advice is to constanly ask yourself what is more important in life. You can either become a superhero or you can continue to mentally/physically exhaust all of your power by being aroused by pixels on a screen. And just an FYI - Don't use age or not being married as an excuse - I am 20 years old - Controlling kaam is possible for everyone

There are a few terminologies that come up in gurbani that I want to understand This is the first one - I've never fully understood what gurbani refers to when talking about focusing on charan. ie ਮਾਈ ਗੁਰ ਚਰਣੀ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਈਐ ॥

Lol nah, it was straight Drake lyrics.

You are amazing brother. Sending you so much love. I will message you later tonight.

I hope everyone is doing well. An experience happened a little while ago which I thought I might share. A few days ago something happened where I was wide awake but felt some of the experiences I've only felt during deep meditation. It started around 12 am and lasted until around 6 am. For the entire night I sat there, wide awake, just taking in everything that was happening. There was no boredom, no desire to do anything. But reality felt very joyful and an extreme emotional feeling of love took over. It felt as if extreme amounts of energy were pouring into the body (these feelings of love and energy happen regularly but that night it was at its peak). Vibrations were at full intensity all throughout the body. Ears blasting a deep tone sound. I didn't have time to sleep the next day so I ended up being awake for a total of 41 hours. There wasn't really any tiredness but I did eventually just put myself to sleep. I'm not sure if the lack of tiredness had to do with anything. It might just have been my body being used to not sleeping because of school. But overall, it was very indescribable. I'm curious to see if it ever happens again. Reading week is next week so I'll have a week off of school. The plan is to experiment around. Might try using that technique by Baba Isher Singh Ji that was posted in the Anhad Naad conversation.

Very funny lol. What if we invent some system where we use the heat to power a heater. Good way to make some side cash.

I mentioned the body heating up a little while back. It continues to do this but to a greater extent. The temperature where I live in Canada is starting to linger into the negatives, there's snow, cold wind. But the body is still able to walk around outside without a jacket (sometimes even begin sweating). Its almost 11 pm here and my lower stomach area (below the belly button) is heating up so much for some reason. The rest of the body is at room temperature. I believe it may be the blockages within clearing up.

I think I know what you mean. This love is a very powerful thing. When this mindset lasts for a few days, a lot of extraordinary things begin to happen. ie even as of now, just cherishing each breath is very intoxicating. It's a feeling that cannot be described, its as if the entire body is tasting some sort of "sweetness". When just closing the eyes and sitting in silence - it feels as if energy is just radiating through every part of the body. The vibrations arise but with the breath, another type of tingling sensation arises as well. It's very hard to describe. It's a very selfless love where there is no desire to receive. But you know this energy will continue to build the more you express this emotion of love. Experiences come and go just like thoughts (and thoughts come and go just like clouds in the sky). No desire to associate with anything. Everything just is as it is. There is a desire to express nothing but love even to the people who I've had bad experiences with. Within the mind, everything begins to drop. Every idea of identity, religion, relationship and attachment begins to fade. The world is seen through the eyes of a witness or perceiver (if those words are appropriate). The mind literally feels like its dissolving.