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Love one another and help others to rise to the higher levels, simply by pouring out love. Love is infectious and the greatest healing energy. - Sai Baba Just for today, I will not worry. Just for today, I will not be angry. Just for today, I will do my work honestly. Just for today, I will give thanks for my many blessings. Just for today, I will be kind to my neighbour and every living thing. - Reiki Principles saach keho suun laeho sabhay, jin praem keeo tin hee prabh paaeyo ||9|| 29 || I speak the truth, listen everyone: Only the one who is absorbed in True Love shall attain the Lord. 9.29. - Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Commonalities in all spiritual practices tend to be these ideas of love and compassion. Even in the past few weeks, I have noticed that being in a very positive and compassionate frame of thinking pushes the mind into a very deep blissful state of meditation. Is there any reason behind this phenomenon? What do you personally do to stay in this frame of mindset?

This is to add to the vibrations - as of last night, it's begun to happen in my heart. I was just observing my breath last night and it synchronized with my in and out breath. Feels very pleasant. Lately I've learnt that a huge booster is the ability to express positive emotions. The more loving and compassionate you become as a person, the more fruitful your meditation becomes.

This experience happened again today. Except I was just sitting down focusing on my breath. It started off with this feeling of intoxication and then it started... I went deeper this time. Up to the point where I had no sense of what was happening physically anymore. I could not hear sounds on a physical level. But once again.. the fear kicked in and it ended. This is the farthest I've gotten. Any suggestions on how to keep going deeper without getting scared?

Something I've realized these past few weeks - kind of related to what's above but kind of not. I've come to a new understanding on life. The goal of your spirituality isn't to chase a trip, energy, experiences, whatever you want to call it. True spirituality is defined by this ability to drop the self. Come to a level of understanding and view everything as oneness. Live a life of purity, joy, happiness. Practice self love (deeper than physically - on a level of knowing the self and being content). I feel like this is what makes someone a true Bhagat. A state of "Chardi Kala" - not exactly in the same terms that our culture describes it. But I mean staying in this stability, not losing you're awareness of your true self. Even when these experiences do arise in the space of being - you do not perceive it as good or bad. It just is. Everything just is. Being free from judgement, hopes, desires. Letting go in one sense. The biggest thing I've come to learn is that intention leads to tension. The more you try, the harder things get.

Yes, they feel like vibrations, right? When I was a kid it used to be very short intense bursts. Now they last a bit longer, sometimes up to a few minutes. I don't know much about them but I've been able to find two main causes. 1. Intense emotion - usually related to feelings of love, happiness, humbleness (many times in front of other meditators) 2. Mind stability I've also learnt how to induce them by changing breathing patterns/focus. I don't know why they happen or what they are doing. This again, should be answered by someone else.

I have a very similar issue. It happens when the body starts to go beyond it's comfort level of relaxation (IMO). Over time it's been happening a lot less. I remember @BhagatSingh answered this one for me a while back. Not sure where that topic was.

Thank you for this. I will keep at it then and not think much of it. I hope everything is going well. It's great being able to turn to you guys when needed.

I hope everyone is well. It's been a while. I'm going through a slight issue. My practice has been going well for this past little bit. I feel extreme amounts of energy flowing through the body. But at the same time the body is heating up so much. It's October in Canada but it feels like the body is ready to drown in sweat. I don't mind it but I am concerned. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong? It's mainly around the upper body. (upper back, shoulders, chest)

Had a very odd experience last night with astral projection. There was a very big thunderstorm in my city and the sound was so loud that it woke most of my family up. The lightning was so bright that my entire room would be covered in light every once in a while. If anyone lives near here they might have heard it last night. I'm a really heavy sleeper so I didn't notice it at first but it woke me up to a point where I was half awake. My body felt light and I noticed that I could move my body at an extremely fast speed. I moved around my room for a little while but I can't remember what happened after that. This is a first in a very long time. Astral projection has always happened by accident for me, I've never been able to do it on purpose. I know this isn't really our purpose but it's always a cool experience.

I will do so. Is this the same energy? - ਬੇਧੀਅਲੇ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਭੁਅੰਗਾ ॥ The chakras of the coiled Kundalini energy have been opened,

He hasn't told me about the lineage himself but I was told by someone else in the community who knows him well. The only reason why I mentioned it was because gurbani mentions that the generations following a bhagat carry on countless blessings. If you could provide a quote of Sikhs not being allowed to do sangat with people of other religions that would be appreciated. The majority of my sangat for spirituality has been people ranging from buddhists to hindus/mystics. If you look at the majority of "our own people", they wear their bana, they have this "distinction" but the inner goal has been completely ignored. This distinction has no purpose if you're not focused towards the goal of oneness. You're looking at this image of Khalsa from a very dualistic perspective. The feel that I get from you is that you see it as... "my path is better than theirs", "I am distinct", "my religion is separate", "I am a separate entity than them". And the thought of... "there exists a Mr. God and I have to do xyz to avoid sin". You may not have this type of mentality but that is what I'm getting from this conversation. I used to do sangat with a lot of the youth but this same mentality is what pushed me away. To answer your question, yes I am an amritdhari and I do follow the lifestyle outlined by my panj pyare. But I don't do much sangat with many other amritdhari's because of the superiority views they tend to hold. I see Sikhi as freedom, love and unity. As long as you're moving forward there is no issue. The issue exists when you're moving backwards or if it's been 30 years and you haven't moved an inch. If you look at the majority of our community, half of these uncles have had their kirpans, turbans, beards, nitnem (the distinction) for their entire life but they still can't control their vices in situations. And all that they say is "I don't have the kirpa" or "these experiences mentioned in bani are just metaphors". I have a lot of respect for you as an abiyassi. You are already way better off than most people. But I don't like your mentality of looking at the outer image. Bani is a lot deeper than what you're making of everything. Do you really think Guru Granth Sahib Ji would focus on destroying duality and creating oneness while the lifestyle of a Sikh promotes the mentality of having a "distinction". Surely the meaning would be a lot deeper. I have my own understanding but I don't believe it's developed enough for me to share. There are other people on this forum who would do a better job. Overall the techniques are very similar to regular jaap. i.e. focusing on sound etc. The only difference is the tai chi type movements but that only takes about 10 minutes per every hour. Anything outside of that is me just experimenting with the energy. Some people may be interested in cars, stocks, music etc. A lot of these people may do bhagti as well but they have other interests in life. This does not mean they won't progress in their spiritual life. My brother likes basketball but does that mean his spiritual progression is less than anyone else's? He has his time to do bhagti and has his time to watch basketball. They have no effect on each other. I personally am generally interested in how meditation and the spiritual body work. For that reason I don't see anything wrong with learning and exploring. The reason why I mentioned the "argument" point is because you completely steered my topic in a different direction. I wanted to learn about what this energy is but now we're talking about this. I really wish you hadn't of done that nor do I want to carry on with this. I wish I had just kept on with my bhagti and just let time answer the question. Anyways, thank you for your time. God bless.

1. I would like to apologize for the wording. The saint I'm referring to was a muslim during Guru Nanank Dev Ji's time but over generations his family became Sikhs. It may be obvious to which saint I'm referring to. But what would be the issue if he were muslim? I believe you've created a duality here where people are separated by their religions. 2. I don't see anything wrong in using a variety of techniques. If you're progressing there is no issue. The goal still remains the same. 3. I also don't see issue in having a mentor. People live with brahmgyani's all the time but no one complains about that. If you have something useful to contribute to the topic it would be appreciated. But arguing over minuscule details is just wasting my time and yours.

I hope everyone is doing well. I recently have gone under mentorship with someone who is in lineage of a well known Muslim saint from Guru Nanak Ji's time. (I don't want to say any names or anything else specific because he stays anonymous). He has a very mystic type lifestyle and I wanted to share an experience which I have had due to his guidance and hopefully learn more about it. Yesterday he taught me a tibetan style meditation where you do a few different hand motions around the nabhi. I started it last night (around 8-9pm) and it feels as if energy is pushing my hands. It feels as if the energy is leading my hands towards different directions. The feeling is similar to how you feel when you point the same side of two magnets together. I spent a few hours playing with is last night. While standing up I was able to lead it in a way where it physically pushed my body backwards. At other times I could feel a very cold wind coming from my hands. If I moved my hands a bit higher and broke the tension, my entire body would burst into vibrations. Closer to around midnight I started to go through moments where I could smell a very strong flower type smell. I called him and talked to him about it briefly but won't see him again for a few days. He said the force is called white energy. So my question is whether this is similar to chi? I know in many types of meditation they use energy. Does anyone know anything about this?

So today I came across a few advertisements for astrologers in my city. One of which seems to be known worldwide because he's the grandson of someone who had a very high spiritual state. So my question is if anyone has ever had any type of experiences with people like these? My uncle was telling me that he's seen some to be accurate to the dot.

Thank you for the help and sorry for never getting back to this conversation. Everything has been going very well. I've noticed that every time there's a hurdle (no matter whether I pass or fail the hurdle), things slowly get better after some time. The main issue is that when it isn't going well I quickly get annoyed and drop everything in life to try and get back on track. But the issue is that the more you let it consume you, the longer it takes to get back on track. Being around like-minded individuals helps the most so I'm grateful to have the sangat on this website. There are only two things that I focus on when it comes to these times is: 1) Calming down the body. Breathing slowly so the body automatically goes back into it's calmness and keeps a slow paced breath. 2) Bringing the mind back into satoguni thoughts. It seems to be easier to go into a thoughtless state if the thoughts are positive. The mind tends to cling on to negativity for a lot longer. (The worst mindset is the mindset where you expect experiences to happen - you put yourself into an endless cycle).

Sadhguru has some good videos on the 5 elements as well. They don't go into much detail but are still good for an introduction.

Things are picking up now. Had a very good long session this morning. The goal this time is to try more sangat sessions. @CuriousSeeker recently sent me an article. Here is a quote from it that I really enjoyed. Here’s how resistance (Ego) plays it’s role and creates negative emotions: Expectations: Expecting something to happen or a certain behavior from someone and when it does not happen, becoming disappointed, sad or angry. Challenge: Feeling threatened (competition) by something or someone (even family members) resulting in anger or disappointment. Jealousy: Yearning for something that someone else has and feeling sad, hurt, anger or disappointment. Negative mental labels: Blaming, judging, accusing, gossiping, complaining, and needing to be right and then feeling sad, hurt, anger or disappointment Attention seeking behaviors: Demanding recognition for something you did and getting angry or upset if you do not get it, trying to get attention by talking about your problems or giving your opinion when nobody has asked for it, wanting to be seen or appear important. Impressing others: Being more concerned with how others see you (ego enhancers), trying to impress others through possessions, knowledge, skills, abilities, good looks, physical strength and so on. Temper tantrums: Bringing about temporary ego inflation through angry reaction against someone or something because you cannot get your own way, or taking things personally and being offended Most, if not all of these can play into the life of a spiritual seeker while they keep bhagti as the centre of their life.

I appreciate the replies. I love this site because I know that I can receive help no matter how bad I screw up. The support aspect is wicked. I have no one else in my life who I can openly talk to about spirituality. From experience - these lows have always been temporary and tend to pick up over a short period of time. It's like muscle memory when it comes to lifting weights. You could leave weight lifting for years, but when you come back to it, you can regain your strength within a short amount of time. I.e. if it originally took you 1 year to build up to a certain amount of strength... even if you lose it all, the next time you train it will only take a few months. My explanation may be confusing lol. Watch a video about muscle memory and you'll understand what I'm trying to say. I feel as if once the hill is crossed everything will be back to normal soon. The biggest thing that has helped me is aiming to keep mantar repetition going within the mind. Not just blankly repeating but doing it in a way that the mind finds it pleasurable and keeps focus. It may not stay focused all the time because you have other tasks to do in the day... but at least keeping that link with meditation. Idle thoughts slowly disappear and the mind becomes stable. The transition I've noticed tends to be like this: 1) Negative thoughts for a small period of time (it's usually very short if I look at it overall. Maybe a day or two... possibly 4-5 at most but it feels like ages and that's why it's tough sticking through them) 2) Then they slowly become more positive and a lot of motivation builds up 3) The positivity becomes a feeling of being neutral and there isn't much of a feeling of good or bad. Everything just is what it is. And during this mindset is where things begin to progress. Someone in the past has told me that without physical sangat this cycle is likely to keep occurring. Where there's no sangat, ego easily builds up and leads to dukh, And this is why sustaining stability becomes difficult.

I love this. Thank you

Everything was going very well. Spirituality was at it's peak for me but I started to get very egoistic and everything fell apart. This isn't the first time - spirituality for me is always 1 step forward and 2 steps back. But this is the biggest hit I've ever taken. I feel different types of intoxication at times but for the most part I feel drained. A lot of good things are happening in my life. I landed a high position job for the summer which was well passed my qualifications. I aced a physics exam and finished with a 98 (plus a bonus mark or two). In high school I averaged around 50's on my exams and best case finished with a 70. So many things that I cannot believe on a worldly level are occurring. Every one of these occurrences are pulling me even farther back because they are causing huge amounts of ego and pride. On a worldly level I don't have many friends, so I can't use that to run away from the feelings of down-ness. I've lost interest in Sikhi but I want to keep doing bhagti. But I'm having a hard time getting myself to sit down. Once I start I can lose myself but the initial step has become hard. It's hard to describe but I've hit rock bottom compared to how hard I've fallen before. Has anyone ever had to go through this? How did you get yourself back into things?

He's amazing. Love him so much <3

Is there anywhere you can learn yoga online? Do you know anything that's good for stabilizing the mind? @Lucky

The next thing I want to work on is being able to sit back straight with no wall. Any tips to strengthen the back so there's no pain during sadhna?

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