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Heven and Hell is here from what i feel, our dukh and sukh is apart of life, when someone close dies feels like hell, when baby is born its like heaven

ik oankar satnaam satgurprasad|| 26. The Practise Of Wisdom Let us pray at the Shree Charans (holy feet) with folded hands and with Kottan Kot Dandaut (countless prostrations) and Shukrana (thanks) to Agam Agochar Alikh Adikh Anant Beyant Dhan Dhan Paar Braham Parmesar (Indescribable Supreme Lord) and Dhan Dhan Guru (Greate Great Guru) for helping us understand the following : 1. What is the difference between divine knowledge and divine wisdom? 1. When and how does divine knowledge become divine wisdom? *1. What is the difference between divine knowledge and divine wisdom?* Knowledge is like an available, off-the-shelf commodity for you, the seeker. Knowledge is something which has been developed by somebody else based upon their experience and put in a form to be used by others. Knowledge is a source of information for the learners and students. As long as this information is available to you and remains unused by you to bring benefit to you and your society, it just remains as knowledge. But when it is actually put into practice then it becomes your wisdom. It becomes a wisdom for the student, it becomes a wisdom for the practitioner of the knowledge. *2. When and how does divine knowledge become divine wisdom?* Wisdom is something which you earn through daily practise of knowledge gained. By doing so you become wiser and wiser. To see, feel and experience the knowledge is called the practice of wisdom. By putting into practise what you have learnt, the wisdom gained becomes a part of your soul mind and body. A practical example is the existance of Gurbani written and stored in the form of Siri Guru Granth Sahib. This is an excellent treasure of divine knowledge that was practiced by the Guru Sahibans and all the Sants and Bhagats. It was physically experienced by these great spiritual souls and then very kindly by all these Puran Braham Gyanis conveyed to Guru Arjun Dev Ji (Pancham Patshah Ji) who very kindly gave it the form of the Ad Granth (scriptures of the Primal Lord) by putting it all at one place. For a normal person it is an excellent source of divine knowledge. It contains all the information concerning :- - the existance of the Akal Purakh from the beginning and even before the beginning, - the ways and means of leading a life for a common person that will take him back to the Almighty, - the divine laws that are mandatory for reaching the Dargah of Akal Purakh, - the qualities and attributes that take us away from God, - the qualities and attributes that take us closer to the God. SGGS JI is a recent source of information about :- - Agam Agochar Anant Beyant Dhan Dhan Paar Braham Parmesar - His Sants and Bhagats, - His Naam and the praise of Naam, - the praise of Akal Purakh, - the praise of Sants, Braham Gyanis and Bhagats. However, SGGS Ji only remains a source of divine knowledge and doesn't make you any wiser and higher in spirituality and divinity until you practice it in your daily life. For example, you can read SGGS Ji about what is naam and how it goes into your heart by the grace of the Guru. But, the Naam doesn't actually go in to your Hirda just by reading about it. That only happens when you get the Gurparsaad of Satnaam and then practice it by doing Naam Simran. The Naam doesn't really go into your Sat Sarovars (7 chakras) and enlighten them and open them up for a continuous flow of spiritual energy until you practice Naam Simran. Naam will not go in to your Rom Rom (each every atom of your body ) until you physically dedicate yourself to longer sessions of Smadhee and keep on doing Naam Ki Kamai (earning naam). The Naam doesn't go in to the Dassam Duaar (tenth door/crown chakra) and opens up the door to the Dargah for you until you dedicate your body, mind and wealth to the Gur and Guru and do Naam Simran. You don't really give your body until you do "Phyical Body Seva" and the highest seva with the body is physically sitting down at Amritvela and doing Naam Simran. You don't collect the Naam wealth until you practically engage yourself in Naam Simran. Similarly you don't earn "Wealth Seva" (Dhan Ki Seva) until you actually physically give one tenth of your earnings to the Guru. And you don't earn "Mind Seva" (Munn Ki Seva) until you physically leave your own wisdom and the worldly wisdom and follow the Guru's words. So in this way complete surrender to the Guru constitutes the surrender of body, mind and wealth. Do Naam Simran and Seva. Until you do it you will never be able to earn that divine knowledge and it will just remain like a commodity available to you for usage. But it will only become your wisdom when you physically and practically do it and earn it. Then you become wiser by that piece of divine wisdom. This means that you will become divinely wiser, which will enhance your divinity and spirituality. Whatever is written by the Puran Braham Gyanis and Guru Sahibans should not be merely treated as a source of divine knowledge or the divine knowledge and just be satisfied with its reading only. It will not make you any wiser unless you do it, then it will become your divine wisdom. By doing it you will earn the wisdom and benefit from the divine knowledge available to you. Making use of the divine knowledge and practically doing it will make you a Sant Hirda and fill your heart with all the divine qualities and make you divinely a very wise and spiritually a very high soul and Hirda. All the priceless diamonds and jewels of divine knowledge are available to you, but you will have to earn them by doing the Gurbani and then they will come and stay inscribed in the crown of your Hirda for ever and you will become an encyclopedia of divine wisdom. Until you earn it it will remain as an available commodity to you and will become yours only after you earn it by practising in your daily life. This is how a person becomes a Puran Braham Gyani by listening, accepting and doing Gurbani. For the Guru Sahibans and Sants and Bhagats the Gurbani was not a piece of divine knowledge, but it was a collection of divine wisdom, because they earned it, they did it and experienced it in the real eternal sense, they did the complete internal pilgrimage by becoming Gurbani themselves, they were walking encyclopedia of the entire divine wisdom. Similarly Gurbani is an excellent collection of divine rules and laws – divine knowledge and will not become a wisdom for you until you do Gurbani in your daily life and earn it and become wiser by doing it and closer to the source – Ik Oankaar Satnaam Satgur Parsaad. Always remember you will not become wiser by just reading Gurbani, you will become wiser by doing Gurbani. You will not become wiser by memorizing Gurbani, but you will become wiser by practicing Gurbani in your daily life. You will not become wiser just by reading or listening to the words of a Sant, but you will become wiser only by practically following the writings and words of a Sant in your life. Like a doctor becomes wiser and wiser by practicing medicine in real life situations. Like a surgeon becomes wiser by performing more and more surgeries. Like an engineer becomes wiser by implementing his ideas in the real world. Like a teacher becomes a real good teacher and a wiser teacher by physically teaching the subject to his students. Like a mother becomes wiser by excercising her motherhod in the most productive manner. Like a father becomes wiser by excercising his fatherhood in a very positive manner. The same applies to the seeker, by applying the divine knowledge in daily life you become wiser and wiser. Dassan Dass [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Dust of your feet. ("Become the dust of everyone's feet then come to me" "hoi sabhna kee renka thao ao hamaraay paas" ... 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Birthday Party - Girls Punjabi Dance Every year we have a big birthday celebration for Siri Singh Sahib Harbhajan Singh Khalsa (Yogi Bhajan). Many guests, friends, family, etc come to this party to celebrate with each other. Every year there are different types of entertainment, however one of the constants is having a show of Punjabi Dance. Here is a video clip of some of the local Espanola Sikh women doing a few different dances in Aug 2002. Ravi Kaur of the Bhangra Troupe "Izzat De Punjab" does some great choreography. She is the one that organizes and gets everyone together to have fun and practice these dances. http://www.mrsikhnet.com/ Thursday, September 29, 2005 FANTASTIC !!! GOOD TO SEE IT THIS IS GREAT TRADITIONAL AND ITS NICE TO SEE IT DONE WATCH THIS SINGH FLY ACROSS THE SCREEN IN MASTI TOO FUNNY

Good question were do the coins and the coconut come from and why ?

The nishan sahib just kills it, the darbar sahib rings a suttle feeling to the heart

Just checked www.sikhstudent.org check these pictures

Just a thought, I read many posts Singhs worried about wearing a pug and not finding a kuri etc, maybe Mr Singh international may sort this problem out when the fact that, having a man with a pug one day shall become more trendy and cooler to have as a sikh husband rather than without. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050920/asp/...ory_5259638.asp Sikh youths set ramp on fire OUR CORRESPONDENT A youth at the Mr Singh International contest. Picture by Bhola Prasad Jamshedpur, Sept. 19: The Shavak Nanavati Technical Institute (SNTI) became a “mini-Punjab†as Sikh youths from various parts of Jharkhand and neighbouring states participated for the zonal audition round of “Mr Singh Internationalâ€, a fashion contest, held this evening. Organised by the “Akal Purukh Ki Faujâ€, an international Sikh organisation, headquartered in Amritsar, the contest saw around 50 youths participating from Jharkhand, Orissa, Bihar and West Bengal. They were all between 18-30 years of age. The eligibility criteria for the contestants were that they should strictly follow Sikh traditions. Attired in sherwanis, suits or casuals and wearing the traditional turban, the participants set the ramp on fire. “This event was a first of its kind organised in the steel city. Never before had a contest for Sikh youths been organised here. The event drew a good response. We look forward to organising similar programmes in future,†said Bhupinder Singh, an official of the Akal Purukh Ki Fauj. The zonal audition kicked off with a written round, in which questions pertaining to Sikh religion were asked. This was followed by the second round in which the participants were required to sashay down the ramp. In the last round, participants performed according to their strengths. There were seven judges for the contest — three from Amritsar and four local. The organisers informed that 25 contestants were shortlisted after the written round. At the end of the final round, five youths were chosen. These youths will get a chance to take part in the finals of the contest, slated to be held in Amritsar on October 19. The officials revealed that similar auditions are being organised in various parts of the country including Mumbai, Pune and Kanpur. The country has been divided into nine zones. Five contestants from each zone will be shortlisted for the mega-finals. According to officials, the auditions for the fashion contest will also taking place in Canada, Malaysia, UK, USA and Thailand. “The event was simply exhilarating. The organisation should be lauded for conducting such an event. It is an attempt to showcase the rich Sikh traditions,†said Shailendra Singh, president of Central Gurudwara Prabandhak Committee and one of the judges for the event.

(JOKE BTW for all those that read the first few lines and panic ) Just see the pictures and audio up really looks and sounds like an anti-gurmat camp :roll: People look really sad and depressed in all the pictures, the naam and bani must have been false and the sangat must have been listening to anti-gurmat parchar to be so HAPPY in EVERY photo, Shame Plonkers ! Somebody tell SikhSangat.com

Health is Wealth take it easy man

Great Panthic seva Vah Vi Vah

Really balanced article....cough cough http://www.panthic.org/news/132/ARTICLE/1777/2005-09-18.html Any one we know on this forum ? Unfortunately, in recent years, many people who don't follow the Khalsa rehat (way of life) strictly and lack good moral characters have brought shame to the ‘Nihang's by falsely claiming to be Nihangs or by simply associating themselves to the Nihang Singhs. In particular, in the UK, a group of young Sikhs call themselves Nihangs on the basis that they look the part and know how to swing a Kirpaan, however upon closer inspection, they do not have the strict Rehat (disciplined way of life), Naam abhiyaas, knowledge, and Jeevan (spiritual life) of true Nihangs

There is a document in the british library talking about how when the sikh movement of the 1920's was conforming to standard practice that the jaikare, were banned because alot of the time in the 1850's indian annexation the nihangs would in the jaikare, shout slogans against the gore taking over the country Like "Goria deh sir jhatkavey, London deh Kuthe" (Cut the goras head off these london dogs etc So as a part of a non intimidating jaikara "the Bole So nihal Sat Sri Akal" was adopted and nowadays your know in the gurdwara, when everyone says the reply Sat Sri akal its very timid and soft, compared to the Bonfire night at SS Camp where it was far from mild and soft, scary somewhat . see Jaikaras around the Bonfire here the Sank( Trumpet Shell drives throught the heart) About 10 pages down Many felt Guru Gobind Singh there with us all. Here is a video which you can hear some of the jaikaras chanted over and over. It's one of those things that you had to have been there. http://www.mrsikhnet.com/2005_09_01_gmustuk_archive.html Please correct me if I'm wrong, end of the Day sing the jaikare to your hearts content Bole So nihal...akaaal, sat Sri Akaaal or which ever way you want

would be great but our people cant even sort out local gurdwara, let alone run a country btw YES

get it off him stick it up

See the Baaj, Eagle of Guru ji or is it "I is insane" ps: this is edited either, for all my paranoid brothers and sisters

Longest Male Beard Back in 1997, Shamsher Singh of Punjab, India, had his beard officially measured at an impressive 1.83 m (6 ft) from the end of chin to the tip. This is the longest beard on a living male. The longest beard ever was grown by Hans Langseth of Norway, whose whiskers stretched an incredible 5.33 m (17 6 in) when measured upon his death in Kensett, Iowa, in 1927. The beard was presented to the Smithsonian Institution, Washington, DC, in 1967. http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/conten...?recordid=48565

ps: thats not an edited image WHOS RIDING WITH GURU GOBIND SINGH

http://tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1&amp...785&t=52785 Nindo Nindo.... I think they live off Nindiya, I think thats was camp was tooooooooooooooo Chardi Kaaaaala Come Mr Topoban cuss it more so next year will be even more Chardi Kaala at this rate we wont have to do any paat or kirtan because you doing it all for us and then you cuss and loose it :wink: If in doubt see the real Topoban Click here http://www.tapoban.com .COM not .ORG BTW See the Fire Lion ... DOH NEXT WILL BE ACCUSED TO FIRE WORSHIP AND BE CALLED ALL OTHER TYPES OF NAMES CULT AND SECTS CHARDI KAAALA...not Errr LUBBLY JUBBLY ....more bahgati for the pot

Come on lets see some pictures of the camp, then

Sikh temple will remain closed http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/112...005-533231.html :cry: By JOHN REITMEYER Burlington County Times MOUNT HOLLY - A Sikh temple in Springfield where violence broke out between two factions of worshipers earlier this year will remain closed because a judge said he is not convinced another incident won't happen. A dispute involving two factions of worshipers at Gurdwara Khalsa Dabar, a temple on Old York Road, is being decided through Superior Court proceedings initiated by a lawsuit that was filed last year. The temple, however, has been closed since April after a massive brawl involving the brandishing of crescent-shaped ceremonial knives called "kirpans" broke out. Five people suffered minor wounds inflicted by the knives, which are part of the religious dress of some Sikhs. More than 100 people were involved in the fight. At issue is which faction controls the temple and its finances. Lawyers for both sides were in court again yesterday. The plaintiffs in the case are asking for a reopening of the temple, saying video cameras and off-duty police officers would make the temple safe again. That faction also wants the defendants in the case barred from the temple The defendants believe the two sides could use the temple on an alternate basis. After listening to arguments from each side, Judge Ronald E. Bookbinder decided not to allow the temple to reopen. He said there's still no guarantee that violence would not break out there again. "The number one issue is safety," Bookbinder said. The judge's decision was punctuated moments later by an argument that broke out between the two factions as they were leaving the courtroom. A Burlington County Sheriff's Department officer had to keep the groups and their lawyers apart as they moved into the lobby of the courthouse yesterday. The Sikh religion was founded more than 500 years ago in the Punjab region of India. The religion is based on the teachings of 10 gurus and its principles include belief in God, equality of mankind, elimination of social inequality and the value of family and honest work.

here here, the camp was tooooooooo CHARDI KAALAA ! unbelieveable in some respects

Why are Sikhs always made out to the the pawns in their political game of chess?

"Kaam" sells and I'll buy

From what I have heard from Shastar Vidiya classes,(2nd picture from Magazinwe) the bank, is used to cut off chail mail, from the shoulder, ad pierce through the shoulder/ also where the elephants used to be used with their saddles it is affective to cut the straps off to dismount the rider Any one else on this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4141524.stm Justice delayed, justice denied By Renu Agal BBC News, Delhi Relatives of the victims of the riots feel badly let down Twenty years and nine investigations later, why have the people behind the anti-Sikh riots in the Indian capital, Delhi, not been brought to book and punished? This question is again being asked after the latest investigation by a retired Supreme Court judge found that Congress leaders either incited or helped mobs to attack Sikhs. The riots, in which more than 3,000 Sikhs died, were sparked by the assassination of then PM Indira Gandhi by Sikh bodyguards on 31 October 1984. The resignation of Indian cabinet minister Jagdish Tytler, who was implicated in the riots, has not helped matters. Nor has the resignation from a Delhi government position of Congress parliamentarian Sajjan Kumar - also named in the investigation report - placated the Sikhs, the opposition or the media. Too little, too late For the angry and hurt Sikh community and the outraged media, it is a classic case of too little, too late. They are not wrong. In the cases of many Congress leaders who could have been re-investigated it is too late. Federal interior minister at the time of the riots and former prime minister PV Narasimha Rao is dead. A senior Congress leader named in the investigation HKL Bhagat is old and critically ill. The then lieutenant governor of Delhi, PG Gavai, told a news channel recently that Mr Rao "hid like a rat" when the riots were taking place. The resignation of Jagdish Tytler has not helped matters There is now no way to determine whether this serious allegation is true. This is the not the first time that politicians believed to be guilty of inciting or leading communal riots have literally gone scot-free. Three years on, no one has been brought to justice over the Gujarat riots either. More than 1,000 people, mostly Muslim, were killed. Independent groups have placed the figure closer to 2,000. The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)-led Gujarat administration, led by chief minister Narendra Modi, has been accused of doing little to prevent the bloodshed. Investigations into the 1992 riots between Muslims and Hindus in Mumbai (Bombay) in which hundreds of people were killed have met a similar fate. Partisan This is despite the fact that the inquiry criticised the nationalist right-wing party, Shiv Sena, and its leader Balasaheb Thackeray for inciting the riots. The report by a judicial commission also found the city's police were partisan and anti-Muslim. Ayodhya is another case in point. Hundreds of people died in the violence which followed the destruction of the historic mosque there by Hindu militants in 1992. It was the trigger for the violence in Bombay. BJP leader LK Advani is still facing charges that he incited Hindus to attack the mosque. He had a court appearance as recently as July 2005. Why does justice reach a dead end in India while investigating such high-profile riots? Criminals just followed the politicians - but 1984 made them realise people leading mobs and killing others could get elected Lawyer Harvinder Singh Phoolka Delhi-based lawyer KTS Tulsi says the way the ruling Congress party-led government has treated the latest inquiry into the 1984 riots is "shameful". He says mere probability of complicity in a crime should be enough reason to launch a criminal investigation against a person. The problem starts here. The police and investigative agencies in most Indian states are heavily politicised and influenced by their political masters. Complicity Independent research has shown that riots in India usually happen with the complicity of police who either covertly participate or turn a blind eye to the violence. Social worker Teesta Setalvad says the fallout from the 1984 anti-Sikh riots and the 1992 Mumbai riots prove this point. "The latest inquiry into the 1984 riots named police officials. The Mumbai riots inquiry named 15 policemen for their involvement. But the governments failed to take any action against them." The Gujarat riots of 2002 left at least 1,000 people dead Delhi-based lawyer Harvinder Singh Phoolka, who fought many cases on behalf of the victims of the 1984 riots, says the incident was a watershed in Indian politics. The riots, he says, showed the creeping criminalisation of Indian politics ''Before the 1984 riots, there were no criminals in politics. Criminals just followed the politicians. But 1984 made them realise people leading mobs and killing others could get elected and become leaders," says Mr Phoolka. "So a way was opened for criminals to make politics a profession." Analysts feel inquiry commissions are used by the state to delay action and protect politicians, policemen and civil servants. They say the pussy-footing over the 1984 investigation by the ruling government proves that very little has changed. 'Cover-up' Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has apologised to the Sikhs and promised those named in the report will be investigated. There is a feeling of deja-vu about this attempt to atone. Congress chief Sonia Gandhi apologised for the 1984 riots over a decade ago and promised action. No wonder the Sikhs are bitter and the media is sceptical. The Asian Age summed the mood up in a front-page headline that simply said: "Mother of All Cover-Ups." Newspapers are already talking about the need for something along the lines of South Africa's post-apartheid truth and reconciliation commission to unravel the truth and heal the wounds. Because, as The Pioneer newspaper said, "justice delayed, also denied".