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Is there an estimate of the time of these doors being made ?

Erith,Belvedre near Dartford so I've heard

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Maybe a collective approch to GNNSJ should be done, they are all clever people and I know Bhai Mohinder may listen, but its is chela underneath that believe the sun only shines from Soho Road and no where else. Any one up for a disscussion/plann with them else Hazoor Sahib is next !

Soho Road Auntys

http://www.sephi.com/galleries/india/kumbh...h_feathers.html

Of all the Sikhs the Nihangs are the most impressive, in their dark blue clothes and their high turbans, Steel clad, long blade daggers strapped around their chest belts and long swords hanging around their waist. Their face expression reflects valor and strength well becoming to their warrior background. They are 'the ‘Guru’s chosen', the true keepers of the Akali warrior’s legacy. http://www.sephi.com/galleries/india/nihan..._12_thumbs.html

I think thats Nihang Baba Hari Singh, hes been trying to hunt phoola's gang down with other Nihangs

The sad shame is most people will read the news paper and beleive it, when they are asked to read a shabad or a story about the Guru's they doubt and say what bout this/that.

For those that don't know the average wedding practices http://sikhs.tulwar.com/wedding/

About time, the AKJ see the Raagmala in Full, you'll still get your plonkers saysing Its not Bani, becuase some guy in the 1920's said so.. Whats fools http://tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1&amp...156&t=41156. We should invite them to Sikh Awareness and Educate our brothers and sisters.

I can feel your passion for preservation

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Good point, is there any examples of where UNESCO has been successful if so in what way ? or failed in others http://whc.unesco.org/

Preparing Shardi( the one without the Green Stuff) Nihangs at Shaheed Bagh, Anandpur Sahib,Punjab India 2005

On the Left Again son, Maharaja Ranjit Singh listening to Granth Sahib being recited near the Golden Temple. Painting in oils by August Schoefft, Vienna, c.1850. Princess Bamba Collection, Lahore Fort. Bit modern but sweet Nihang & "Sea of Turbans" Artist: Kirti Age: 13 Akshay Pratisthan School New Delhi, INDIA

Look whos in the bottem left of this Picture The splendor of Maharaja Ranjit Singh's court in Lahore, capital of the Sikh empire.

So its basically conservation of the buildings and current arcitecture? Not day to day running or funds or politics? Right ?

Members of the Akalis (Timeless Ones), armed Sikh zealots, showing their distinctive blue tunics and conical turbans, and the steel rings they wore about their wrists. Eden, Emily (1797-1869), Dickinson, Lowes Cato (1819-1908) Akali, a member of the most strict of the Sikh orders, founded by Guru Govind Singh. A painting from a manuscript of Tashrih al-aqvam, an account of the origins and occupations of some of the sects, castes and tribes of India. Skinner, Colonel James Dastar Bunga at V&A Museum An akali and his wife From the Hastings albums, this company drawing shows an akali and his wife. Opaque watercolour.Kashmir, c.1820 Sikh Akali Infantry Assorted Weapons Models

Akali Phoola Singh - 1800's Akali Sikhs "After luncheon the Major took us to Jind, and there we saw a series of strange gentlemen. Sikhs they were, most of them dressed in blue, and bearing war implements and steel rings. They had circles of steel round their necks, similar circles round their turbans. At first it was a puzzle to me why they should carry these hoops; they were flat like quoits, had a sharp knife-edge, and appeared in the most unexpected places - round the neck, round the waist, and on their turbans. Were they worn for decorative reasons? I discovered that the hoops were used simply as implements of war. They are deadly weapons. The Sikhs throw them at their enemies, hurl them along edgeways as you would a quoit, and cut off heads as easily as you would slice a lemon." - The Durbar, Mortimer Menpes (1903) Akali Nihang Singh - 1800's He is holding in his right hand a Jamdar Tega(Kora), which name loosely means 'victory of death' - as well as two bows, 2 swords, a matchlock gun, breastplate, as well as a host of other smaller weapons. Then an Akali, a wild-eyed, wild-haired Sikh devotee in the blue-checked clothes of his faith, with polished-steel quoits glistening on the cone of his tall blue turban, stalked past, returning from a visit to one of the independent Sikh States, where he had been singing the ancient glories of the Khalsa to College-trained princelings in top-boots and white-cord breeches. Kim was careful not to irritate that man; for the Akali's temper is short and his arm quick. Chapter 4 Kim - Rudyard Kipling Sikh Akalis at Amritsar ".... a party of Akhalees (fanatics) on foot stopped and fought us, in some instances very fiercely. One fine bold 'Nihung' beat off four sowars one after another, and kept them all at bay. I then went at him myself, fearing that he would kill one of them. He instantly rushed to meet me like a tiger, closed with me, yelling 'Wah Gooroo ji', and accompanying each shout with a terrific blow of his tulwar. I guarded the three or four first, but he pressed so closely to my horse's rein that I could not get a fair cut in return. At length I pressed in my turn upon him so sharply that he missed his blow, and I caught it from him, and cut him down with the right, having received no further injury than a severe cut across the fingers; I never beheld such desperation and fury in my life. It was not human scarcely..." - Twelve years of a soldier's life in India, William Hodson (1859) http://www.sikhcybermuseum.org/Gallery/His...li-Babas-10.jpg One rare painting of Saint -Soldier Akali Phula Singh A very old painting of Akali Phula Singh printed in 1923 From http://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99oct17/sunday/head1.htm Buddha Dal Nice ones from Narsingha's old Picture site Postcard - two Akali Sikhs - early 1900's

:shock: Haven't seen some of these before rare stuff lets see how many pics we can get under this thread older the better, forget the copyright thing, all Sikhi © of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Use http://www.imageshack.us To host Lets go

Is it a Good thing for Harminder Sahib to become Heritage status or as the cartoon hilights, a plot for change ? Or is there more to the picture, that it may be beneficial to become heritage status if so Who, what and how does this whole Heritage thing work, what happens in the process? Who runs it is it ? Will Sikhs benefit from it and who losses? Will Harmindar Sahib be lost by Sikhs ? or Is it simply the about who controls the golak and the income or is that left to the current SGPC? What other sites around the world are under this Scheme, Also who started the whole thing so become part of Heritage status ? & WHY? http://www.panthic.org/news/124/ARTICLE/1439/2005-06-19.html Darbar Sahib World Heritage Site Under Spotlight Once Again Sunday 19th June, 2005 Fauja Singh - Panthic Weekly Staff London, UK (KP) - Darbar Sahib being declared a World Heritage Site by UNESCO is once again in the spotlight. The SGPC (Sharomini Gurdwara Prabandic Commitee) has decided to call back the dossier it submitted for Darbar Sahib world heritage status yet the Government of India seems determined to have it approved against the wishes of the Sikh Community worldwide. Sikhs across the world including UK have strongly objected against the dossier on the grounds that they were not consulted. They also objected on various other issues based on the content as well as the language used to create the dossier. Now it seems the Government is determined to still get the world heritage status passed against the wishes of the Sikh community stating that it has consulted with Sikhs world wide when it is widely publicised through the media. Claims have also been made in the media that the Government has paid various medias vast amount of money for special programs explaining the benefits of world heritage status. As well as the Sikh community not wanting the heritage status it is also clear that the SGPC no longer feels the need for such status if it is to be tied by so many strings from different angles. This is why it has called for the dossier to be returned and world heritage status dropped. Sikhs across the world are now being urged to contact their local and national representatives urging them to highlight the point that Sikhs have not been consulted. The Sikh Community in the UK is urging community members to send letters to local MPs, the Secretary of State Tessa Jowell, and the Prime Minister. Individuals are also urged to encourage their local Gurdwaras to send letters as well.

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yeap found its much easier, you can always tie it into your kamkasar(small turban wrapped around the waist) last thing you need is to whack anyone whilst training