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West Coast Sikh Youth Alliance

10th Annual Sikh Youth Summer Camp

Camp Hativkah is located in the beautiful okanagan valley - Oyama, BC

Camp activities will include:

Gatka, self defence and kick-boxing training by members of the world-renowned Shaheed Baba Fateh Singh Jee Gatka Akhara of UK as well as pointers from members of the Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Jee Gatka Akhara of Surrey, BC.

Meditation and simran sessions, keertan darbaars and delicious multicultural langars.

Exciting workshops, thought-provoking discussions and insightful lectures and demonstrations.

Amazing recreational activities including tubing (sitting on a tube hanging by a rope from the back of a speed boat!!!!), canoeing, swimming, volleyball, games, team sports, sports days.

One-on-one support from role models and new friends and supports.

Gurbani and Gurmat knowledge and philosophy.

Special "Guru Granth Sahib Jee 400th Prakash" Celebration Day (gurprub falls in the middle of camp)

Special lectures on 2004 year anniversaries and events

Special keertan CD dedicated to Bib Rena Kaur, Bhai Parminder Singh & Bhai Charnjit Singh

Real-life issues, real new ideas, inspiring challenges and a renewed faith in Sikhi.

10TH ANNIVERSARY, CAMP 2004 - BE THERE !

Visit www.wcsya.org

Waheguru ji ka khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fateh !

Friday, June 18, 2004 - 4th of Harh, 535 Nanakshahi

NEWS RELEASE

UNITED SIKHS Releases Gurbani CD - Available Online

VANCOUVER, CANADA - A special compact disc set, launched to commemorate the 400th anniversary of the revelation of Sri Guru Granth Sahib, has been uploaded to the UNITED SIKHS website after recent worldwide distribution and promotion. This set of two CDs features recitation of Gurbani and interpretations in English of Jap Ji Sahib, Rehraas Sahib and Sohila. Each line of Gurbani when recited is accompanied with a follow-up interpretation to a backdrop of soft music. "The goal of the CD set," says UNITED SIKHS Director Mejindarpal Kaur, "is to inspire the youth to connect with the Guru's teachings, and allow professionals to learn from Gurbani by listening to the CD throughout the work day. It can also be used for beginners to get started on their daily Nitnem."

The CD is available online at http://www.unitedsikhs.org/gurbanicd.html for free download and distribution. UNITED SIKHS encourages members of the Sikh community to listen to, share with others, and promote this CD and the online download so that many more English-speaking Sikhs can be inspired by the Guru's teachings. To offer your support for further projects like this, or to obtain information about this CD, please e-mail contact@unitedsikhs.org.

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Our Mission

To transform underprivileged and minority communities and individuals into informed and vibrant members of society through civic, educational and personal development programs, by fostering active participation in social and economic activity.

UNITED SIKHS is also an avenue for networking between like-minded organizations to establish and nurture meaningful projects and dialogues - whether social, cultural or political- to promote harmony, understanding and reciprocity in our villages, towns and cities.

UNITED SIKHS is a coalition of organizations and individuals, who share a common vision based on the belief that there is no greater endeavor than to serve, empower and uplift fellow beings. The core of our philosophy is an unwavering commitment to civic service and social progress on behalf of the common good. Accordingly, UNITED SIKHS has sought to fulfill its mission not only by informing, educating and uplifting fellow beings but also by participating in cross-cultural and political exchanges to ensure that the promises and benefits of democracy are realized by all.

We at UNITED SIKHS believe that the development of enlightened and progressive societies can be made possible by socially conscious groups of people who make a commitment to develop and direct human potential. Our work, efforts and achievements stand as a testament to our faith in this vision.

Friday, June 18, 2004 - 4th of Harh, 535 Nanakshahi

NEWS RELEASE

UNITED SIKHS Releases Gurbani CD - Available Online

VANCOUVER, CANADA - A special compact disc set, launched to commemorate the 400th anniversary of the revelation of Sri Guru Granth Sahib, has been uploaded to the UNITED SIKHS website after recent worldwide distribution and promotion. This set of two CDs features recitation of Gurbani and interpretations in English of Jap Ji Sahib, Rehraas Sahib and Sohila. Each line of Gurbani when recited is accompanied with a follow-up interpretation to a backdrop of soft music. "The goal of the CD set," says UNITED SIKHS Director Mejindarpal Kaur, "is to inspire the youth to connect with the Guru's teachings, and allow professionals to learn from Gurbani by listening to the CD throughout the work day. It can also be used for beginners to get started on their daily Nitnem."

The CD is available online at http://www.unitedsikhs.org/gurbanicd.html for free download and distribution. UNITED SIKHS encourages members of the Sikh community to listen to, share with others, and promote this CD and the online download so that many more English-speaking Sikhs can be inspired by the Guru's teachings. To offer your support for further projects like this, or to obtain information about this CD, please e-mail contact@unitedsikhs.org.

________________________________________

Our Mission

To transform underprivileged and minority communities and individuals into informed and vibrant members of society through civic, educational and personal development programs, by fostering active participation in social and economic activity.

UNITED SIKHS is also an avenue for networking between like-minded organizations to establish and nurture meaningful projects and dialogues - whether social, cultural or political- to promote harmony, understanding and reciprocity in our villages, towns and cities.

UNITED SIKHS is a coalition of organizations and individuals, who share a common vision based on the belief that there is no greater endeavor than to serve, empower and uplift fellow beings. The core of our philosophy is an unwavering commitment to civic service and social progress on behalf of the common good. Accordingly, UNITED SIKHS has sought to fulfill its mission not only by informing, educating and uplifting fellow beings but also by participating in cross-cultural and political exchanges to ensure that the promises and benefits of democracy are realized by all.

We at UNITED SIKHS believe that the development of enlightened and progressive societies can be made possible by socially conscious groups of people who make a commitment to develop and direct human potential. Our work, efforts and achievements stand as a testament to our faith in this vision.

Vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa!

Vaaheguroojeekeefatheh!

Any sangataa who would wish to get darshan of the worldly body home of the soul that is now in Guru's charn, or Bhai Sahib Charnjit Singh Khalsa, as we knew him on Earth, please come to Five Rivers funeral hall on 7410 Hopcott Road off of River Road in Delta. Coming from Richmond it is the right-side of the Nordel exit (don't take Nordel). Coming from Surrey it is the left side of the Alex Fraser exit (don't get onto the bridge) - http://www.numenon.com/antam/map.gif.

The viewing / darshan will be from 6-8pm today (Friday).

The body will be sent back to Punjab tomorrow as there are so many sangataa in Bhai Sahib's native village waiting for darshan as well.

Just a reminder that the funeral service for Bhai Sahib Parminder Singh Khalsa and Bibi Rena Kaur Khalsa will be at 1:00pm at Five Rivers funeral hall on 7410 Hopcott Road off River Road on Saturday, followed by the bhog at Gurdwara Sahib Dasmesh Darbar on 85 Ave off 128St, which leads into the rainsabhaee keertan at the same location, which leads into the divas sohila (all-day keertan) smagam at Gurdwara Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Sikh Society on 88Ave near 144St.

The kids decided on an informal dress code of white cholay/suit/kurta and kesri/orange dastaar/keski/rumaal. So if any kids from the academy or akhara are reading this - if we can let's go as a team and try to wear this informal uniform (if you don't have it, it's understandable).

All the sangat are requested to come together for these events so that Guru Nanak's laadlee bhujang fauj can become ranglay and get laahaa together in chardee kalaa.

bhul chuk maaf karnaa,

Vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa

Vaaheguroojeekeefatheh!

- The Sikh Youth of BC

sikhyouth@shaw.ca

posted from other forums:

Vaaheguroo jee kaa khaalsaa !!

Vaaheguroo jee kee fatheh !!!

Tuesday's update:

For the information of the sangat,

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ANY OF THE BELOW ANNOUNCEMENTS, PLEASE E-MAIL sikhyouth@shaw.ca

PRIORITY NUMBER ONE: It goes without saying that all the sangat has a responsibility to continue to do simran and bani for these Gursikhs and to remain in Chardee Kalaa as a united Khalsa panth.

MEMORIAL PROGRAMS include the Bhog of the Sehaj Paath for Bhai Charanjit Singh jee at Gurdwara Sahib Amrit Parkash, which will take place on Sunday, May 16th, at 9:30 am. There will be Sri Akhand Paath seva at Gurdwara Sahib Amrit Parkash in memory of Bhai Parminder Singh jee and Bibi Rena Kaur Jee. The bhog of the Sri Akhand Paath will be around 9:30 / 10:00am on Monday, May 17. All of the golak donated at these programs will be given for the Trust Fund in the name of these three gursikhs. There will also be a bhog of the Sehaj Paath at Khalsa School. For more information please contact sikhyouth@shaw.ca

THE MEMORIAL KEERTAN will take place on Friday, May 14, at Khalsa School on 124 St near 72nd Ave in Surrey, BC. This will be a fully youth-organized keertan darbaar, with a united darbar of all Sikh youth who had the honour and good fortune of being in the sangat of Bhai Parminder Singh, Bibi Rena Kaur and Bhai Charanjit Singh. The program will begin at 5:30 and will go as long as the youth feel appropriate.

THE ANTAM SANSKAAR (Funeral Services) will take place on Saturday, May 15 at the Five Rivers Funeral Hall located at 7410-Hopcott Road (by River Road), Delta B.C. at 1:00pm. The program's length will depend on how much sangat comes to get darshan.

THE ANTAM SANSKAAR BHOG (Post-Funeral Services) will be organized all by youth as per the wishes of the sangat. It will feature Sikh youth keertan and katha. It will take place immediately after the antam sanskaar at Gurdwara Sahib Dasmesh Darbar on 128th Street near 88 Ave in Surrey, BC. All of the sangat are requested to stay for the evening as there will be a Rainsabhaee (all-night) keertan at the same location after the bhog hosted by Akhand Kirtani Jatha of BC.

SPEECHES AT THE ANTAM SANSKAAR - the program of speeches at the funeral has been arranged. We request that individuals do not prepare speeches for the funeral.

SPEECHES AT THE BHOG will be done by Sikh youth and community organization leaders. If any organizations are interested in speaking for 2-5 minutes MAXIMUM (strictly enforced) please e-mail contact@gurmatveechar.com.

THE MEMORIAL SMAGAM will take place from 5:00am to 8:00pm on Sunday May 16 at Gurdwara Sahib Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Sikh Society on 88Ave near 144St with langar/keertan done according to panthic maryada.

THE MEDIA RESOURCES are all online at www.inoneday.ca. The media contact on behalf of all three families is Mark Schneider of Numenon Communications. Please direct all media inquiries to this website and to Mark Schneider. The information is on the website. The families have requested that no comments be made on the accident at all at this time. This is a time for memorial and honour of those three Gursikhs.

THE MEMORIAL CD & PAMPHLET will be distributed at the Antam Sanskaar. The CD will feature keertan by Bibi Rena Kaur Jee, katha by Bhai Parminder Singh jee, and kavitas by Bhai Charanjit Singh jee. All of the sangat is requested to take only one per family, and do the seva of making copies and distributing worldwide. The CD cover and contents will be available for download the Gurmat Studies Foundation (www.gurmatstudies.com) and Guru Nanak Academy websites (www.gurunanakacademy.com).

RIDES TO THE ANTAM SANSKAAR will be available from Khalsa School Surrey (contact Jasmohanjit Kaur Gill at 604-592-8769) and from Gurdwara Sahib Dasmesh Darbar (contact Sukhpreet Singh Heir at 604-725-2045). If you can take a ride instead of a car, please do in order to avoid parking troubles.

PLACES TO STAY FOR OUT-OF-TOWN SANGAT are available as sevadaars from all over the Lower Mainland have united to offer their homes for this seva. Please contact sikhyouth@shaw.ca to arrange your stay or to offer this seva.

THE PARMINDER SINGH, CHARANJIT SINGH, RENA KAUR MEMORIAL FUND has been established to honour the legacy of these three Gursikhs. The funds from this fund will be used to aid the families in the funeral arrangements and to support the work for the betterment of society by the Guru Nanak Academy.

It is preferred that donations are primarily made through cheques or direct deposits to the memorial fund account or made via the Internet using credit card at www.gurunanakacademy.com. If you are unable to use these methods the following Gurdwaras will be able to accept donations on behalf of the families and provide receipts: Dasmesh Darbar (Surrey), Khalsa School (Surrey), Khalsa Darbar (Vancouver), and Kalgidhar Darbar (Abbotsford).

All cheques should be written to (exact words): Parminder, Charnjit, Rena Memorial Fund

One can make direct deposits to:

Bank of Montreal (any local branch) using the following info:

Account# 8800398

Branch# 798

Or donations can be given via Internet:

www.gurunanakacademy.com (Paypal system)

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ANY OF THE ABOVE ANNOUNCEMENTS, PLEASE E-MAIL sikhyouth@shaw.ca

Remember to stay in Chardee Kalaa jee.

bhul chuk maaf karnaa jee,

Vaaheguroo Jee Kaa Khaalsaa

Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fatheh !!!

I totally agree with this article and I think there is more than needs to be done to help young Sikhs deal with depression.

But what can be done? Anybody have some good suggestions?

i think it's all the fault of people like me who don't keep their amrit vela

guru jee said as long as we keep rehit he will help us

plain and simple !

Yes.

Guru Sahib was the light of God shining on earth, and still is.

God has three forms - nirgun, sargun and shabad.

Guru Nanak Dev Jee was the SHABAD.

The physical body was not the GUru, the light shining from the spirit inside the physical body was the Guru.

This light shined in all 10 Guru Sahibs and it still shines in Guru Granth Sahib jee, and when Punj Pyare are in the hazooree of Guru Granth Sahib, then you are having FACE-TO-FACE darshan of Guru Gobind Singh jee.

I think Gurbani clearly says "har jug jug bhagat upaaeiaa"

The Gurus always considered themselves as slaves of God

but Guru Sahib has said so himself "God and God's servants are ONE"

You cannot say that when you do Waheguru simran you are doing simran of Guru jee - no you are doing simran to WAheguru, God. However, Guru is the one who unites you with WAheguru.

Those other prophets may have been great bhagats - but their worth is only tested when you see if they really connected somebody to the love of God, completely.

If you compare Guru jee to other saints, you are discrediting the "vadee vadeaaee" of the "vadaa darbar" and sacha takhat and nehchal chaur chhath of Guru Nanak Dev Jee

bhul chuk maaf karnaa jeeeeeee

VAAHEGUROOJEEKAAKHAALSAA

VAAHEGUROOJEEKEEFATHEH !!!

Vaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaa!!

Vaaheguroojeekeefatheh !!!

I agree with "HeyDudesWassup" . . .

In my humble opinion, many Taksali and AKJ people both agree that Bhai Jarnail Singh jee's bani is shudh. Some AKJ people complain that taksalis never accent some words and TAksalis complain the AKJ accent too many words... Bhai Joginder Singh Talwara Jee kind of read gurbani in the middle of both extremes and Bhai Jarnail Singh jee's uchaaran (www.gursikhijeevan.com) is also very good and a compromise between different schools of thought.

I think of course love matters - but you will really be showing your love when you take santhiya classes.

I am not very honest and reliable, and I am not showing my love because I have only taken santhiya once, of nitnem. Many Gurmukhs have taken santhiya of nitnem three or four times, and also of Guru Granth Sahib. I hope someday I can do this.

There are many places you can take SAnthiya - I'm not sure about UK but in Canada for sure. Please ask around.

I would not advise you to stop doing paath... just maybe stick with tapes and also do how much you can and like "heydudes" veerjee said, just do ardaas - Guru jee is ON YOUR SIDE !!

stay in chardee kalaa jee,

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

hmm in light of summeet kaur bhainjee's comments

vismaad is not only wonderstruck... but wonder in and of itself

wonderful, wonderstruck, wonderous, "vaaho"

i will try to find the exact translation...

but hanjee bhainjee that's a beaaautifulllllllllllll shabad.... really puts into perspective everything we go through ... seperation, union, hunger, fulfillment, pain, pleasure, ... waheguru

the only tiem i've been really embarrased is when i've done something against sikhi and then i've had to confront it.

those situations have come up many times.

if something disrespectful happens to my kakaars.. maybe that could be unfortunate and i may feel regretful..

but going outside and people seeing my dastaar or anything like that... that's not embarrassing.. man.. who cares what judgemental society's people think !!!

as for kes coming loose or what-not... i've gone on many road trips and sometimes this does happen in which case i've had to tie my dastaar in the bathroom at some gas station on top of a whole stack of paper towels..

:shock: :? :wink:

bhul chuk maaf karnaa jeeeeeee

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

Contact PETA, and get their "veggie starter kit" -- it will help.

"aap gavaaeeai thaa(n) sahu paaeeaai aur kaisee chathuraaee"

You're welcome to come to Vancouver for the AKJ smagam in May

or the Saadh Sangat smagam in June

and partake of khande-ke-pahul

I personally completely and absolutely disagree that Guru Sahib would ever really put on a hat

In this message Guru Sahib is showing that what a real hat is - of the Guru's wisdom

and Guru Gobind Singh jee's wisdom has also ordained that a Sikh should tie a dastaar - as the external appearance to reinforce the internal love for Guru's hukam

but i have a long way to go ... don't respect my dastaar enough

bhul chuk maaf karnaa jee

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

Please read Bhai Gurdas jee's vaars. It gives a description of how WAheguru gurmantar was created.

WAHEGURU is not God's name.

Waheguru is the mantr that Guru nanak gave the world to reach unity with God's name - which cannot be uttered, it has no physical explanation.

It is immortal, infinite, almighty and sublime - it is true and real, but you can't say it - it's just Naam.. noumenon... and the way to be one with it is to have complete Love for everything, which only comes from purity, which only happens when HAUMAI is destroyed - and "waheguroo gurmantar hai jaap haumai khoee"

IT'S SO EASY !!! but why am i not doing simran then...

aah lazy mind... get to work !!!

hehehe chardee kalaa jeeeo

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

jealousy anger and sadness can all be destroyed by gurbani

the more you read it the faster they'll go

i need to get started because i've got a lot of jealousy and anger

hehehehe

chardee kalaa jee

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

Bani is a writing - it is a text

Gurbani is the enlightened text - the word of Truth

"vaaho vaaho baanee sach hai "

Vaaho! Vaaho! Baanee is the Truth

"vaaho vaaho baanee nirankaar hai"

Vaaho! Vaaho! Baanee is the formless God

"baanee guroo guroo hai baanee"

The Baanee is the Enlightener and the Enlightener is the Baanee

"Gur kaa shabad rattan hai"

The Guru's shabad is a priceless jewel

"Bani thaa gaavoh guru kayree baaniaa sir baanee"

Sing the Word of the Guru, which is the head of all writings

"Banee thaa kachee satgur baajho"

All writings about God written without the grace of the True Guru are fruitless

"Dhur kee baanee aaee thin saglee chinth mitaaee"

The baanee came from God, and destroyed all worries

"jaisee mai avai khasam kee baanee thaysaa gyaan karay vay laalo"

OH Lalo, just as the Baanee comes down through me from the Divine HUsband God, so I do give this account of wisdom.

please forgive all the mistakes I have made.

bhul chuk maaf karnaa jeeo

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

tankhaiya - read bhai nand lal jee's "thankhahnaamaa"

thankhaah = wages

thankhaaiya is somebody who has earned wages.

what is wages?

it is guru jee's lovely way of giving us a "reward" when we do something stupid - in order to straighten us out.

it is really a reward because it makes us more humble. usually it is seva.

thankhaiya is somebody who has done something such as go against hukam of the punj pyare, or many other things.

read Bhai Daya Singh jee's rehitnaamaas.

Patit is somebody who has purposely turned away from the path of the Guru. Also somebody who is presently not on the path of the Guru.

"kot patit hoay puneet"

Guru jee can turn millions of impure and backwards people into pure and God-minded.

i hope that offers sommme help

i know nothing .. bhul chuk maaf karnaa jee

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

hanjee i agree with rochak singh.

mata gujri jee was "gurmata" or "wife of the guru" and she was also mother of the guru. she was grandmother of the khalsa and she was a khalsa herself.

she was an amazing gursikh and she probably recognized it was time for her to meet with akaal purakh.

i wish more was known - but we should not exercise doubts about this... modern "rationalists" are very quick to try to disguise the true power of gursikhs by trying to give scientific explanations that are not sufficient or appropriate

bhul chuk maaf karnaa jee

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

the only word that i know how to explain it is wonderstruck

i'm not sure if that fairly translates

but that is an attempt

the above post was great

bhul chuk maaf karnaa jee

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

about heaven and hell

I think n3o singh means heaven-like and hellish circumstances in life, which can be experienced in different life forms

---

and those who really repent are forgiven yes

those who repent and never re-offend, guru sahib gives them a chance to clean up their past karma

bhul chuk maaf karnaa jee

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

It doesn't really matter if the sun burns out.

it's just a big lump of gas.

My Guru shines much brighter. My Guru never burns out.

:)

I think Mukti is when you are free from the shackles of maya, in the realm of truth. People who are mukt don't have to come back into the cycle of birth and death if they dont' want. That is mukti. It means liberation.

Jeevan mukt means that while the person is alive, they are free from the shackles of maya.

Maya is the main restriction in our life - it is like another womb.

When we are "born out" of maya into the "real world" of sach khand, we are "mukt"

Some people reach sach khand while on earth so they are jeevan mukt.

The real mentality of jeevan mukt and Gursikhs is that they do not want this mukti - they do not really care if they are in a human life or not. All they really want is to be absorbed in the lotus feet of Guru jee. That is their goal. When they show this true emotion from the heart, Guru jee naturally grants them mukti anyway. Many Shaheed Singhs are mukt, but they are instaed amar-shaheed as part of Guru Gobind Singh jee's gupt fauj. They stay in Guru jee's charan sharan.

I made many mistakes - bhul chuk maaf karnaa jee

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!

I believe that Guru Sahib has the infinite wisdom

Please look in Gurbani and you will find shabads about what happens while we are in mothers' womb

There are many young children and even adults who remember flashbacks from their previous life.

I think since the soul is continuous - the soul remembers everything but our mind is clouded with maya and doubt, and while the soul is using this body, we may lose that memory although our soul has this memory.

I think our soul looks however our karma is.

those who did lots of naam simran are "mukh oujalay"

while the faithless people have scary images.

just some thoughts,

bhul chuk maaf karnaa jeeo

VaaheguroojeekaakhaalsaaVaaheguroojeekeefatheh!!!