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  1. I worded it wrong by saying I don't believe in God or karma. I meant to say I don't believe or not believe. What I'm basically saying is I don't know. Hopefully it makes sense to you. Stay cool bro no need to attack people with different views than yourself.
  2. First of all I don't have the IQ to understand Gurbani. That's why I try not to decipher it's meaning because I may take it the wrong way when the meaning is actually different. High-level gurmukhs understand the true meaning. I have my opinions though just like you do. I don't think Guru Gobind Singh Ji came out the womb fully realized. I believe he went on the spiritual journey as well to reach God. He writes his parents did lots of different meditation and he did as well before becoming one with the Truth. Bachittar Natak gives some really good insight. I think you'll take it the wrong way though. I don't know if you believe it's written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji or not but I feel it's too beautiful to not be written by him. I should ask my grandpa if it's written by Guru Gobind Singh or maybe Lucky will know. @Lucky is Bachittar Natak written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji? ਅਬ ਮੈ ਅਪਨੀ ਕਥਾ ਬਖਾਨੋ ॥ ਤਪ ਸਾਧਤ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਮ੝ਹਿ ਆਨੋ ॥ Ab main apnee katha bakhaano. Tap saadhat iih bidh muhe aano. Now I relate my own story as to how I was brought here. While I was absorbed in deep meditation. ਹੇਮ ਕ੝ੰਟ ਪਰਬਤ ਹੈ ਜਹਾਂ ॥ ਸਪਤ ਸ੝ਰਿੰਗ ਸੋਭਿਤ ਹੈ ਤਹਾਂ ॥੧॥ Hemkunt Parbat hai jahaan, Sapt sring sobhit hai tahaan .1. The site was the mountain named Hemkunt, with seven peaks and looks there very impressive .1. ਸਪਤ ਸ੝ਰਿੰਗ ਤਿਹ ਨਾਮ੝ ਕਹਾਵਾ ॥ ਪੰਡ੝ ਰਾਜ ਜਹ ਜੋਗ੝ ਕਮਾਵਾ ॥ Satptsring teh naam kahawa. Pand raaj jahan jog kamava That mountain is called Sapt Shring (seven-peaked mountain), where the Pandavas Practised Yoga. ਤਹ ਹਮ ਅਧਿਕ ਤਪਸਿਆ ਸਾਧੀ ॥ ਮਹਾਕਾਲ ਕਾਲਿਕਾ ਅਰਾਧੀ ॥੨॥ teh ham adhik tapasaya sadhi. mahakaal akalka aradhi .2. There I was absorbed in deep meditation on the Primal Power, the Supreme Being .2. ਇਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਕਰਤ ਤਪਿਸਆ ਭਯੋ ॥ ਦ੝ਵੈ ਤੇ ਝਕ ਰੂਪ ਹ੝ਵੈ ਗਯੋ ॥ Ih bidh karat tappsaya bhayo. Davai te ek roop havai gayo. In this way, my meditation reached its zenith and I became One with the Omnipotent Lord. ਤਾਤ ਮਾਤ ਮ੝ਰ ਅਲਖ ਅਰਾਧਾ ॥ ਬਹ੝ ਬਿਧਿ ਜੋਗ ਸਾਧਨਾ ਸਾਧਾ ॥੩॥ taat maat mur alakh araahaa. bahu beedh jog saahdna sahdaa ॥3॥ My parents also meditated for the union with the Incomprehensible Lord and performed many types of disciplines for union.3. ਤਿਨ ਜੋ ਕਰੀ ਅਲਖ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ॥ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਭਝ ਪ੝ਰਸੰਨਿ ਗ੝ਰਦੇਵਾ ॥ tin jo karee alakh kee sevaa. taa tay bhaay prasanni gurdava ॥ The service that they rendered the Incomprehensible Lord, caused the pleasure of the Supreme Guru (i.e. Lord). ਤਿਨ ਪ੝ਰਭ ਜਬ ਆਇਸ ਮ੝ਹਿ ਦੀਆ ॥ ਤਬ ਹਮ ਜਨਮ ਕਲੂ ਮਹਿ ਲੀਆ ॥੪॥ tin prabh jab aaees muh theeaa. tab hamm janam kaloo mahi leeaa ॥4॥ When the Lord ordered me, I was born in this Iron age.4. ਚਿਤ ਨ ਭਯੋ ਹਮਰੋ ਆਵਨ ਕਹਿ ॥ ਚ੝ਭੀ ਰਹੀ ਸ੝ਰ੝ਤਿ ਪ੝ਰਭ੝ ਚਰਨਨ ਮਹਿ ॥ Chit na bhayo hamro aavan kaih. Chubhi rahee srut Prabhu chaman maih I had no desire to come, because I was totally absorbed in devotion for the Holy feet of the Lord. ਜਿਉ ਤਿਉ ਪ੝ਰਭ ਹਮ ਕੋ ਸਮਝਾਯੋ ॥ ਇਮ ਕਿਹ ਕੈ ਇਹ ਲੋਕਿ ਪਠਾਯੋ ॥੫॥ Jio tio Prabh ham ko samjhaayo. Im Kaih kai ih lok Pathaayo. But the Lord made me understand His Will and sent me in this world with the following words.5
  3. Well It's pushing me towards realizing the truth for myself. Part of that to me is giving up any pre-conceived ideas. I don't believe in some random God or Karma. No need to be so negative towards my opinion. You can keep believing in some God that listens to every ardas I'm not attacking you for it. I know ardas to God is in guru granth sahib but I don't know the purpose. The gurus could be using it for prem-bhakti. I choose a more scientific path instead of blind faith. I refuse to believe anything I don't know. Only through going within will I find the answers I'm seeking. Not listening to some katha or some story or some beliefs. I don't believe in all of Oshos teachings, I believe some of his teachings actually drove many people towards kaam ras and the wrong direction. I do agree in his belief to not believe what you don't know and instead put the time in to reach the truth for yourself. If one day I realize that some God does exist that listens to everyones ardas and some sort of karma system does exist then cool but until then I don't know so I don't believe.
  4. This has to be some kind of joke. I was drinking water while listening to it and I just started laughing and crying so hard I couldn't hold the water in my mouth. I felt like dancing when I listened to it. I don't think you can do simran and sing gurbani to that kind of music LOL! Haha, you should use music that is meditative by its nature man.
  5. I agree with what CuriousSeeker said. In the beginning there are lots of ups and downs but they gradually settle. Imagine a meter with a needle. It goes really high then really low. As you stay steady with more experience and giaan the needle does not move far off from the center. Your mind stays steady and there are no more highs and lows. Listening to and understanding Asa Di Vaar played the biggest role for me in steadying my mind. You should enjoy spirituality and not see it as a job of some sort. If a person does not enjoy it they'll always fall off. Find sangat to do naam japna with that's the easiest and best way to start enjoying spirituality. I read you don't have many friends. I think it's very vital to have good people around us. You should form some friendships with good people you can find. Everyone needs friends, they help us stay in a good mood. Just talking to a friend makes a person who is down level himself. I do believe in spirituality but not in ardaas and some force listening to it. I think gurus put ardas to keep sikhs safe from Ahankaar. If you feel all your spiritual gain is thanks to some God then you will stay safe from houmai. Also most health issues are cured so if person does ardas and health returns then their belief in God becomes even stronger and it will motivate them to meditate. However, one of my close friends got a chronic health issue that the doctors could not figure out and for 3 years his mother and father did ardaas and paath day and night. It has been 4 years and he is still sitting at his home with his dehabilitating chronic disease. His parents are questioning their belief in God and giving up. A persons blind belief can become the reason they give up if things don't go their way. It's better to just see it as a process of awakening yourself to reality. There is not some imaginary God that can do kirpa. A living sant could do kirpa on him but not some imaginary force. Guru Granth sahib is our guide but it cannot do kirpa on us in my opinion. You see Gurus refer to the Truth in love as mother, father, husband, all-knowing guide, one who cares for all beings etc. I believe it is a method to develop bairaag and love. Once you have that love you become intoxicated in it, it will take you all the way. Then you realize the Truth which is different. If Gurus just told people the truth straight up they would not understand so they stuck with this method of giving the people some imaginary force to cling to. This is just my opinion from the experiences that shaped my thinking. When I gave up my belief that there is some god, I felt a big weight come off my shoulders and lots of peace come to my mind. I just try to live a good honest life. I see awakening as the only thing with meaning in life everything else is just useless and temporary. Everything is in naam japna. I read or listen to gurbani and katha just to motivate myself to do naam japna. The whole process and awakening is in naam japna. I still enjoy maya though. I see awakening as a science and process with no kirpa involved so I stay steady in my sadhana now to continue the process each day. I believe we need to have a well-balanced life. We must live in maya and enjoy it while being spiritual as well. Some people try to get away from maya and be spiritual only but that is a much tougher road. Like Guru Ji says they leave to the jungles but there mind is still stuck in Maya. Balance is the key. I think it has worked well for me. I'm just stating my view and opinion. I'm not saying I am right or wrong. I have spent much of my time being a philosopher to understand the creation and the mind. Understanding Kaam, Krodh, Lobh Moh Ahankaar through vichar with myself and listening to many different kathas by different people and religions. Asa Di Vaar helped me a'lot. I have built a strong understanding through philosophy to prepare myself to be spiritual. There are many paths and that is the path I took.
  6. Bhul Chuk Maaf bro. I agree that statement by me is wrong. I don't know if the Gurus ever had to suffer in past lifetimes from panj doot. I don't know if they even had past lifetimes. I don't know.
  7. No idea I know some saints don't believe in raagmala. Bhai Randhir Singh and AKJ do not believe in it. I don't think it matters either way. It's not going to make a huge difference if you accept it or reject it. The more important thing is making steady gains spiritually and not worrying about small things like this in my opinion. Below is some good knowledge from Kabir Sahib in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj Ji. Guru Granth Sahib gives us all the answers to our questions if we search it. (340-2) raag ga-orhee poorbee baavan akhree kabeer jee-o kee Raag Gauree Poorbee, Baawan Akhree Of Kabeer Jee: (340-2) ik-oaNkaar satnaam kartaa purakhgurparsaad. One Universal Creator God. Truth Is The Name. Creative Being Personified. By Guru's Grace: (340-3) baavan achhar lok tarai sabh kachh in hee maahi. Through these fifty-two letters, the three worlds and all things are described. (340-3) ay akhar khir jaahigay o-ay akhar in meh naahi. ||1|| These letters shall perish; they cannot describe the Imperishable Lord. ||1||
  8. I'm going to India in 3 months to meditate I'll make sure to bring this across and let you know what he says.
  9. I respect your view, everyone has their own view according to there thinking and understanding. My view is more realist. I don't go by blind faith that much. I only go by what I know. I do ardas just for positive energy. I don't believe there is something listening to my ardas though. I think similar to Osho that there is no God in the concept of something overlooking the creation and taking care of everyone. I see so many people stuck in pain in this world with no way out. So it's hard for me to believe there is some force that is guiding and taking care of everyone. The karma theory to me is bullshit. A persons thinking is not in their control so they have no power over what they do. Depending on the type of thinking and intelligence a person has so do they act. I believe Guru Granth Sahib Ji is our guide that contains the wisdom of our great gurus. I believe the purpose of SGGS is to guide us to become self-realized beings like the gurus, but I don't believe it is living like most sikhs think. I believe our living guru is sache panj pyare who can do kirpa on us. I believe self-realization is a science and there is no kirpa involved except from panj pyare. I used to have blind-faith but I gave it up to go realize the Truth for myself and not assume anything. This post will probably shock many people. I know my views are against most Sikhs but please don't judge me.
  10. Ay Lucky, doesn't that sound foolish to you he is calling out Narayan but his chit is on his son not god. So it's just a word that he does not associate with god. He is not thinking of god, he is thinking of his son. Yet he gets saved while yelling out to his son. Some things just don't add up lol. I think we take things too literally sometimes and don't get the message behind it. Like in the Quran it says if a person does not believe in Allah they should have their head removed. Some muslims then go killing people who don't believe in Allah. I'm pretty sure that's not what Mohammed intended. Lol! Then you look at Jesus saying drink with me in my fathers kingdom. Christians then start drinking wine in their Churches. Lol! While Jesus was talking about amrit ras. People take things too literally man.
  11. All this talk about Guru Avtar and when they come into the body is so pointless. It's a useless discussion and gives us no benefit, it just looks foolish. So Avtar gets to come in the body later? Okay cool story, who cares, lets move on to more important things now. Bhagat Singh has already spoken to Baba Nand Singh Ji on the matter. Just let it go Raagmala. "Baba Nand Singh ji is sitting up there laughing at me for even attempting to rectify this. Whoever that is, he says that I am too attached to making things right and I should just let it go and let it be as it is."
  12. No she does not follow one religion kind of dabs with them all. She talks about Guru Granth Sahib and gurbani. She also talks about the vedas and the Bible etc. She is good at talking.
  13. Preach my brother preach, that was desperately needed. Lol.
  14. Like BhagatSingh just showed your thinking regarding that one line quote is flawed. I'm entitled to have my own opinion I never said it is a fact. I'm a person with a open mind. If you want to lock yourself into a certain thinking then you're free to. I'm not going to go hide my opinion just because it's not popular. The soul which is God never changes. We have to realize that we're the Truth. That is the journey I believe we are going on which is known as self-realization. We are here to realize we ourselves and everything else is God. There is nothing but God. The 5 elements are always changing. Every physical body takes birth and then dies. I see Gurus as souls who experienced many different lives as well. If they never went through dealing with panj dhoot then they could not relate to and understand us. One of the most beautiful writings I have ever listened to is Bachittar Natak by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Many saints believe it is by Guru Gobind Singh Ji. I do know however some people don't think it's Guru Gobind Singhs' writing. I believe it was written for Khalsa and Guru Granth for the world. I suggest you listen to it with a open mind and try to understand. It's amazing how much this panth runs away when a sexual reference is made. It's like a bunch of little kids that have no self-control. God is in everything. Not just our Gurus. Everyone is equal. I'm not committing nindiya just stating my belief. Do you know what the ardas below is saying? Can you tell me what the ardas below is saying? Pritham Bhagouti Simar Kai, Guru Naanak Layee Dhiyae Angad Gur Te Amar Das, Raamdaasai Hoye Sahai Arjan Hargobind No Simrou Sri Har Rai Sri HarKrishan Dhiyaa-eeai Jis Dhithi Sabh Dukh Jaye Teg Bahadur Simareeai Ghar No Nidh Avai Dhai Sabh Thai Ho-e Sahaai Dasvaa Paatshaah Guru Gobind Singh Ji Sabh Thai Ho-e Sahaai
  15. Guru Nanak's father and mother seemed to be normal average people. They didn't seem to be very spiritual in the stories I heard. They delivered Guru Nanak to the world though. Wouldn't that contradict the article? What is your take on this Lucky? Regarding intercourse, I do agree with BhagatSingh. Personally I believe the Guru's did have a physical union with there spouse just like everyone else does to bring a soul into the world. It was done with a pure mind though. Physical union between two high avastha partners is a spiritual meeting as well and pushes both higher and closer to the Truth. There is nothing wrong with that. Or maybe they just snapped there fingers and it happened LOL! I believe Gurus experienced Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh and Ahankaar before as well. I also believe they experienced being in the womb since it's written about in SGGS. That is the way they're able to teach us in gurbani because they've had these personal experiences before and overcame them to become enlightened. There is no difference between the Guru and a true Sikh. Everyone is the same and equal. We are all one. We are all from the same jot. The Gurus followed the same rules of the play as we do. Do you really think Guru Ji is going to bend the rules just so he doesn't have to have physical union with his wife? That sounds silly. The Gurus know this is a play and that maya the physical creation is god as well. Guru Ji has control of his mind he has no fear of maya or panj dhoot. Our Gurus have given us the easiest path where we can enjoy maya and get closer to sach. It's okay to enjoy things like food, sports and your significant other. You do want to conserve your sexual energy though and not be like a animal. High avastha people probably only have intercourse to bring a soul into this world. 5 dhoot are necessary to play this game. God enjoys this game of his and so should we. The 5 dhoot must be our servants though then we can enjoy maya or else they will torture us. I'm just stating my opinion. Great Rishis and Munis have failed. The path is much harder for them. I think a big reason is they become so anti-maya that they end up falling into Maya. The harder you try to get away from something the more it will pull you in. Maya is beautiful. It is only bad if we don't have control of the panj dhoot. Like Bhai Sewa Singh Ji Tarmala would say the mind is here to play and enjoy Gods physical creation maya as well. It is a fine balance. I just pray and do ardas to Vaheguru for his naam and continue to live a well-balanced life. I have faith everything will take care of itself. Below in Asa Di Vaar according to my thinking Guru Ji is showing the amazement he has beholding the beauty of Gods physical creation, Maya. ਸਲੋਕ ਮਃ ੧ ॥ (463-18) salok mehlaa 1. Shalok, First Mehl: ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਨਾਦ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਵੇਦ ॥ (463-18) vismaad naad vismaad vayd. Wonderful is the sound current of the Naad, wonderful is the knowledge of the Vedas. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਜੀਅ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਭੇਦ ॥ (463-19) vismaad jee-a vismaad bhayd. Wonderful are the beings, wonderful are the species. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਰੂਪ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਰੰਗ ॥ (463-19) vismaad roop vismaad rang. Wonderful are the forms, wonderful are the colors. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਨਾਗੇ ਿਫਰਿਹ ਜੰਤ ॥ (463-19) vismaad naagay fireh jant. Wonderful are the beings who wander around naked. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਪਉਣੁ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਪਾਣੀ ॥ (464-1) vismaad pa-un vismaad paanee. Wonderful is the wind, wonderful is the water. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਅਗਨੀ ਖੇਡਿਹ ਿਵਡਾਣੀ ॥ (464-1) vismaad agnee khaydeh vidaanee. Wonderful is fire, which works wonders. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਧਰਤੀ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਖਾਣੀ ॥ (464-1) vismaad Dhartee vismaad khaanee. Wonderful is the earth, wonderful the sources of creation. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਸਾਿਦ ਲਗਿਹ ਪਰਾਣੀ ॥ (464-2) vismaad saad lageh paraanee. Wonderful are the tastes to which mortals are attached. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਸੰਜੋਗੁ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਿਵਜੋਗੁ ॥ (464-2) vismaad sanjog vismaad vijog. Wonderful is union, and wonderful is separation. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਭੁਖ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਭੋਗੁ ॥ (464-2) vismaad bhukh vismaad bhog. Wonderful is hunger, wonderful is satisfaction. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਿਸਫਿਤ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਸਾਲਾਹ ॥ (464-3) vismaad sifat vismaad saalaah. Wonderful is His Praise, wonderful is His adoration. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਉਝੜ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਰਾਹ ॥ (464-3) vismaad ujharh vismaad raah. Wonderful is the wilderness, wonderful is the path. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਨੇੜੈ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਦੂਿਰ ॥ (464-3) vismaad nayrhai vismaad door. Wonderful is closeness, wonderful is distance. ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ਦੇਖੈ ਹਾਜਰਾ ਹਜੂਿਰ ॥ (464-4) vismaad daykhai haajraa hajoor. How wonderful to behold the Lord, ever-present here. ਵੇਿਖ ਿਵਡਾਣੁ ਰਿਹਆ ਿਵਸਮਾਦੁ ॥ (464-4) vaykh vidaan rahi-aa vismaad. Beholding His wonders, I am wonder-struck. ਨਾਨਕ ਬੁਝਣੁ ਪੂਰੈ ਭਾਿਗ ॥੧॥ (464-4) naanak bujhan poorai bhaag. ||1|| O Nanak, those who understand this are blessed with perfect destiny. ||1||
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