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Posts posted by Akali_Akal_Singh

  1. 20 hours ago, paapiman said:

    Are you sure bro that the individual was insulting Maharaaj or was he a spiritual advanced seeker, who was having a light moment with Sri Satguru jee?


    Bhul chuk maaf

    Maybe, but reading this part: 


    22 hours ago, Akali_Akal_Singh said:

    Deva wished to marry his own sister. People said, "This is unlawful." He said, "I fit were unlawful, it would not be possible for the male organ to go into the female. For, since God did not wish us to fly, He did not give us the power to fly." The Sikhs worshipped Guru Hargobind as a deity, and their belief was that he is God, who has appeared six times in this Age [Guru Hargobind being the sixth Mahal].

    makes it a bit unlikely.

  2. The author of Dabitsan-i-Mazahib also mentions a incident of an individual insulting Guru Hargobind ji. Here is the story:

    "There is a man called Deva, a Brahman of Gobindwal in the Punjab, who calls himself Gyani. He went to the Guru and one day sat on the palang, that is, the cot, of Gurditta, who,  popularly known as Baba Jiu, was the Guru's son. People said, "Don't sit here." He asked for the reason. They replied, "This is the place of the Guru." Deva said, "Perhaps, the Guruji's body is not made of the elements, or I do not have any command over reason. Or what he eats, I do not have the ability to eat." These words were reported to Guru Hargobind. He called him and said, "0 Deva, the whole universe is one existence." He replied, "Yes". The Guru pointed to a donkey and said, "What is it? Do you recognise it?'' Deva replied, "You are the Absolute God. It too is you." The Guru laughed and did not feel hurt.

    Deva wished to marry his own sister. People said, "This is unlawful." He said, "I fit were unlawful, it would not be possible for the male organ to go into the female. For, since God did not wish us to fly, He did not give us the power to fly." The Sikhs worshipped Guru Hargobind as a deity, and their belief was that he is God, who has appeared six times in this Age [Guru Hargobind being the sixth Mahal]. "


  3. I saw this question in the comment section of a youtube video. 

    how do you explain the inconsistency in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib on how many worlds are there? In Ang 57, there are apparently 3 worlds: ਿਤ ਭਵਿਣ ਸੋ ਪ ਭੁ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਸਾਚੋ ਸਾਚੈ ਨਾਇ ॥੫॥. taribhavan so parabh jaanee-ai saacho saachai naa-ay. ||5||. God is known throughout the three worlds. True is the Name of the True One. ||5||. In Ang 292, there are supposedly 2 worlds:ਦਹੁ ੂਪਾਖਕਾਆਪਿਹਧਨੀ॥. duhoo paakh kaa aapeh Dhanee. He Himself is the Master of both worlds. In Ang 299, there are 14 worlds: ਚਾਿਰ ਕੁੰਟ ਚਉਦਹ ਭਵਨ ਸਗਲ ਿਬਆਪਤ ਰਾਮ ॥. chaar kunt cha-odah bhavan sagal bi-aapat raam. The Lord is pervading in all the four directions and the fourteen worlds.

  4. 5 hours ago, paapiman said:

    Why is that bro?

    5 hours ago, paapiman said:

    Sikhs do Havan, we are suppose to read Gurbanis (worship Akal Purakh). Fire (Agni Devta) is not being worshiped, but being used as a medium to reach Waheguru jee


    Bhul chuk maaf

    Singh Sahib, Didn't you mean traditional Hindu havan? The havan Udasis do?

    Udasis recite verses from the Matra Sahib, their scripture. Udasis don't reject the demi-gods and agni worship won't be taboo to them.

    As I had said earlier, Sant Jagjit Singh ji Harkhowal Wale have defined the meaning of havan as the awakening of gyan and destruction of avashnas.

    It wouldn't be bad, to do a havan with Gurbani, but It would dichotomize our already divided people. There are many a missionary walking around us and would find the slightest excuse to ostracize open-minded individuals.

    There are many people who want to merge us with them. For instance, neo-Hindus often emphasize in the "Hindu-Sikh oneness". To combat this, Singh Sabha arose. They not only differentiated the definition of Sikh, but almost alienated Sikhs from their past..... 

    I would suggest to do Paath, Jaap or Kirtaan instead of havan, hom etc. Their significance has been mentioned thousands times in Sri Guru Granth Sahib. 

  5. Sargun Havan is not Gurmat. Gurmat says that nothing is to be worshipped except the Nirgun swarup. According to Baba Jagjit Singh ji Harkhowal wale, a Gurmukh's Havan is when Gyan awakens, when the avashnas are washed with the fire of Brahmgyan. Therefore "havan" like other words is used as a metaphor.

    Udasis were the real Sikh missionaries. Their job was to spread Sikhi, to attract more and more people. Therefore, in order to achieve their goals, they adopted many Sanataan practises. Of whom are the saffron bhekh, idol worship, havan etc. They did succeed. They converted many Hindus into Sehajdhari Sikhs.

    However, Khalsa has been strictly advised against these practises. 

  6. 7 hours ago, paapiman said:

    Please listen below to a Katha snippet from Sri Sooraj Prakash Granth, where Sri Satguru jee (Seventh Master) provides some health tips.

    Please start listening after 25:00 min:



    Bhul chuk maaf

    Sri Guru Har Rai ji was a great physician. He also made a great garden that contained hundreds of herbs and cured the sick

  7. On 9/26/2016 at 10:17 AM, BhagatSingh said:

    If you ignore the insulting tone of it, it's a pretty accurate poem and it's hilarious.

    Thanks for the laugh.

    Lol, maybe it is. But, I can find about 90% of all orthodox Sikhs who won't agree with you, even if we ignore the insulting tone or not. (Just like the Charlie Hebdo froggies who painted a funny caricature of Mohammed in one of their editions and provoked an ISIS attack)


  8. On 9/12/2016 at 8:39 PM, jaikaara said:

    Arya Samaaj does not even call itself Hindu and is not a mainstream Hindu organization ..the members do not go to Hindu Mandirs they have their own and do not do idol worship . It is not just the Sikhs they have targeted , they are against anyone and everyone who does not fall in their line . There was a time when they and Singh Sabha were on good terms and brought back forcibly converted Muslims. Then things changed, i interacted with them to understand their mindset ..i don't get along with them .

    I'M BACK!

    Huh, Hinduism is, as Basics of Sikhi's Jagraj Singh says, not an religion but a culture. Sikhs and Punjabi Muslims have been victims of it. It's not only that it's a giant, but that each and every sect has it's own differences so you can't actually figure out what is standard.

    I know Hindus who will glorify Dayanand, worship idols and go to a Gurdwara... 

  9. On 6/6/2016 at 4:12 PM, dalsingh101 said:

    Unfortunately, as the migrant crisis is not ending, incidents such as these, will become the norm and Europe would be transformed into Middle East..


  10. 5 hours ago, paapiman said:

    Arya Samaj insulted Sikhism and Islam. This organization also caused friction among Hindus and Sikhs in Punjab.


    Bhul chuk maaf

    Indeed. But It's quite ironic how early Hindu organizations rejected Sikhism, while a bit modern ones (no need to mention names) not only consider Sikhism as a sect of Hinduism, but also don't refrain from celebrating Nanak and Gobind Singh "Jayantis", the same persons whom their "Swamiji" rejected as "dambhis" and hypocrites...

  11. 1 hour ago, amardeep said:

    I've never heard that Muslims were specifically taxed. Where did you read that and do you have more info on this?

    Sources: 1.Zutsi, Chitarlekha (2003), Language of belonging, Islam, regional identity and the making of Kashmir, ISBN: 978-0-19-521939-5 

    2.T.N. Madam, Kashmir, Kashmiri, Kashmiriyat: An introductory Essay.

    British travellers, who visited Kashmir during Sikh rule, also mention about the extreme poverty of Kashmiri Moslems, due to the heavy taxation by the government. The ban on cow slaughter was forcibly applied in these Muslim living areas and those who defied it, were severely dealt with. The Jama Masjid was temporary closed and marble from Mughal buildings was used for the construction of new ones. Sikh rule, in these border regions was seen as oppressive and was hated.

    An explanation for all these acts, is undoubtedly the remoteness of these areas from the Punjab, where Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims were enjoying the Khalsa rule. The tribes of these areas, even though defeated, quickly rose against the Sikhs in the name of Jihad, and the only choice to suppress them, was defeating them, looting them, executing the rebellion leaders, enslaving their women, selling them in Lahore's bazaars and taxing them.... 

    (Information taken from sources)


  12. Ranjit Singh, even though a drunkard and a womanizer, used to keep the children of his dead Generals and Sardars. However, it doesn't necessarily mean that he was a paedophile or something else. Almost all travellers confirm that Ranjit Singh was extremely kind, so rumors are... rumors! There is no biography, no book to state that Sher-i-Punjab did such things.    

     As far as how the Sarkar-i-Khalsa dealt with the "Bacha Bazists" is easy to understand. Sardar Hari Singh Nalwa was expert in dealing with the tribes. Except from the province of Punjab, Moslems of Kashmir and North-western frontier province had to pay a special tax. Tribes which rebbeled against the Khalsa, were massacred and looted. Maharaja Ranjit Singh himself ordered his army for "tit for tat" against the Afghans, whenever they slaughtered or looted Sikh areas. It was not necessarily unjustified as it was the only way to keep peace in that area..




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