tva prasad

Raj ji, 
Just some clarifications:
It is not being a khalistani which takes u somewhere.
No true sikh needs Sree Ram, Sree Krishan, nor any other gods, godesses, trinities, nothing of that stuff... 
We have only one goal, as Sree Guru Nanak Dev Maharaj states in the begining of SGGS, which is as follows:
Ik Oankar : only 1 god, who is Satnam.
He is met by the the jaap of Gurparsad, the holy name of Waheguru.
Sikhee is an universal path of love and devotion to the Highest eternal Truth, irrespective of color, caste, creed/dharam/religion.
As the Bani says: Sabna jeea ka Iko Daata.
The intention of Sikhee is not to convert anyone, but just to transform from a dark and heavy sinner into a pure soul, in order to merge and become one without distinction, with the ultimate and changeless Highest consciousness, namely Waheguru Akal Purukh.
I invite you to throughly the Bani without any rush and then come and tell us your sincere opinions.
Stay blessed brother.
SSA.

the "father of mankind" is a comment by the translater..it is not written in the real Bani..

i got confused also when i read it..

There is no polite way to say this but you guys are stupid. 
"Oh, I read the first few lines and it says murlee manohar, krishan, hari. Oh yeah, gurbani is praising krishan as the almighty. Let's head to the nearest iscon temple, yeah!"
BTW, I am not denying that Krishan is worthy of our respect. 
Let me explain myself. Had you guys read the shabad properly, it is not hard to understand that this is not in the praise of the satoguni Vishnu, rather the one beyond satogun, brahman/ vaheguru himself. It says, "you are ram chand the one without any form". That is talking about the formless lord within ram chandar. "you are krishna and the gopis", this indicates that the whole creation is brahman/ vaheguru/ parbraham/ allah/etc. The formless one is in all. The shabad further mentions how god has "many limbs". This is definitely not about Vishnu, rather the form of vaheguru which is expansive, endless and infinite. This shabad is to highlight and praise the non-dual nature of vaheguru, yet his many forms are conveyed, which are the very essence of the creation. There is none other than he, even that is the idea that is so poetically conveyed in this shabad. Interesting, is it not? He is the formless one yet he has infinite forms. These forms, however are a play. They are in fact, the same form. This is understood when the ego loosens its grip on us. One truly realises that nothing is separate from the source, vaheguru and that everything is within him even as he resides in all. 
Therefore, Vishnu is not praised as he is subject to death. He is bound by maya due to being satoguni. Prior to him, many Vishnus have served the creation and many will do so after the present Vishnu. So many Krishnas and Ramas have walked the earth. So many yet to come. There is no end to the lord's creation. For he is the creator and the one that manifests as the created. "Brahm mahesar bisan sachipat ant phase jam phaas parenge". Brahm= brahma, mahesar=shiva, bisan= Vishnu, Sachipat= husband of sachi (Indra). Hence, Brahama, shiva, Vishnu and Indra are subject to the noose of the god of death. How, then can they save us from our mortal woes? 
It is a matter of fact that, the shabad is praising the infinite forms of vaheguru which he manifests in, to take part in his creation. Hence, the formless lord is being praised, for he alone is the one that governs the hearts of all  he alone is all there is. He is maya, brahma, Vishnu, shiva, indra, etc. He is detached yet part of his creation. The creation is in him and he is in the creation. Every atom of the universe is occupied by him, he is within the hearts of all, man and beast. I do not see how this shabad can be interpreted in a way as you have done as that is not even what is implied. And it is crystal clear. 

I knew it. Something seemed off. I'm no scholar of Sanskrit, but you don't have to be to realise that the grammar seems a bit off, the word "raa" means to bestow something/ daan, according to a Sanskrit dictionary. Plus it sounds a little too much like this:
"Guru Brahma, Guru Vishnu, Guru devo Maheshwara
Guru sakshat, param Brahma, tasmai shri guravay namah"
I don't know, man. It just sounds like they played around with some verses. 
It would be bhavishya puran. "Bhavekhath purana" sn't a thing. The word 'bhavekhath' is just a corruption of the word 'bhavishya', purans are kind of an odd place to use it since they used proper Sanskrit, befitting the time in which the text was written. The so-called "dhigvajeh puran" isn't a thing either, lol. Who are they trying to fool?

This hymn seems to be about Agni. 
This is ridiculously stupid. Don't fall for it, peeps. 

Their argument is that hercules is actually 'hari-kula-es' which means king of the hari kula, Krishna or something. Firstly, Hercules is the Roman version of Herakles or Heracles which means blessed by Hera (Greek goddess). So, yeah nah. Doesn't sound convincing. 
Secondly, those two are completely different. These people publish massive articles on this but none of it is true. It's just propaganda that the gullible types that aren't really into ancient literature may fall for. 

This quotation above reflects the job given to the different Avatars and deities for the maintenance of the Triloki creation and to re-establish morality/virtues whenever there is a downfall of it. That's it, nothing more nothing less.
Their devotees enjoy the fruits or rewards of their faith and devotion towards them, yet remain as individual identities. What to say about their devotees, when even their spouses and other beings remain with forms, genders, etc.
These avtars and prophets are a hindrance between the jeev atmas and Akal Purukh, for their role is to keep functioning the mayavee triloki creation.
They themselves are unaware of the path of Nam bhakti, thus, they are very much stucked in the web spread by their mother Maya.
On the other side, Guru Sahiban, Brahmgyanis, Gurmukhs, Bhagat Jan, come with the akhoot wealth of Nam/Shabad, through which They teach us how to board on the jahaaz of Nam,  cross all the mayavee creations, reach Sach Khand, the region of everlasting Truth, and merge there in Waheguru, thus becoming one with Akal Purukh.
This is the main difference between Gurmat and all other paths/philosophies/religions.
I respect all avtars and prophets, but none are match to my beloved Waheguru Akal Purukh.
While all others are just tiny stars in the dark infinite firmament, my Waheguru is the very huge Sun, the dispeller of all darkness/agyanta.
Stay blessed.
SSA.

I knew it. Something seemed off. I'm no scholar of Sanskrit, but you don't have to be to realise that the grammar seems a bit off, the word "raa" means to bestow something/ daan, according to a Sanskrit dictionary. Plus it sounds a little too much like this:
"Guru Brahma, Guru Vishnu, Guru devo Maheshwara
Guru sakshat, param Brahma, tasmai shri guravay namah"
I don't know, man. It just sounds like they played around with some verses. 
It would be bhavishya puran. "Bhavekhath purana" sn't a thing. The word 'bhavekhath' is just a corruption of the word 'bhavishya', purans are kind of an odd place to use it since they used proper Sanskrit, befitting the time in which the text was written. The so-called "dhigvajeh puran" isn't a thing either, lol. Who are they trying to fool?

This hymn seems to be about Agni. 
This is ridiculously stupid. Don't fall for it, peeps. 

Yes, you are right. They are all titles. The next brahma is going to be the present hanuman. The next indra is hoing to be the present king Bali (from Vaman avtar). One of the next sapta rishi is going to be the present Ashwatthama. It all changes. The present indra is called purandra, that is his name. Anyone that does 100 ashwamedha yagyas is crowned indra.
Even hindu granths agree that these devte are bound to birth and death.
https://www.speakingtree.in/blog/brahma-vishnu-and-shiva-are-in-birth-and-death 

I knew it. Something seemed off. I'm no scholar of Sanskrit, but you don't have to be to realise that the grammar seems a bit off, the word "raa" means to bestow something/ daan, according to a Sanskrit dictionary. Plus it sounds a little too much like this:
"Guru Brahma, Guru Vishnu, Guru devo Maheshwara
Guru sakshat, param Brahma, tasmai shri guravay namah"
I don't know, man. It just sounds like they played around with some verses. 
It would be bhavishya puran. "Bhavekhath purana" sn't a thing. The word 'bhavekhath' is just a corruption of the word 'bhavishya', purans are kind of an odd place to use it since they used proper Sanskrit, befitting the time in which the text was written. The so-called "dhigvajeh puran" isn't a thing either, lol. Who are they trying to fool?

This hymn seems to be about Agni. 
This is ridiculously stupid. Don't fall for it, peeps. 

some of the purnanas mentioned dont even exist. the names are made up. this is just empty proponganda. The site from where you quoted this also contains some foolish articles like Guru Nanak was a hindu bla bla. it is just a hindu propoganda site.

Daas saw this on facebook today and was very feeling sad that Baba Ji have passed away in a car accident today whilst travelling such a sad loss for the Sikh Panth.
 
https://m.facebook.com/100010368526031/posts/pcb.974465602909048/?photo_id=974472102908398&mds=%2Fphotos%2Fviewer%2F%3Fphotoset_token%3Dpcb.974465602909048%26photo%3D974472102908398%26profileid%3D100001857327195%26source%3D48%26refid%3D52%26_ft_%3Dmf_story_key.974465602909048%3Atop_level_post_id.974465602909048%3Atl_objid.974465602909048%3Acontent_owner_id_new.100010368526031%3Athrowback_story_fbid.974465602909048%3Aphoto_attachments_list.[974465516242390%2C974465569575718%2C974472022908406%2C974472066241735%2C974472102908398]%3Astory_location.9%3Astory_attachment_style.album%26__tn__%3DEH-R%26cached_data%3Dfalse%26ftid%3D&mdp=1&mdf=1

This is sad to hear. More and more of the old skool Nihangs are passing away leaving the Dal Panth more divided than ever.

Yes, you are right. They are all titles. The next brahma is going to be the present hanuman. The next indra is hoing to be the present king Bali (from Vaman avtar). One of the next sapta rishi is going to be the present Ashwatthama. It all changes. The present indra is called purandra, that is his name. Anyone that does 100 ashwamedha yagyas is crowned indra.
Even hindu granths agree that these devte are bound to birth and death.
https://www.speakingtree.in/blog/brahma-vishnu-and-shiva-are-in-birth-and-death 

Congrats bro for this your true and brave post.
I agree 101% with you.
Waheguru Akal Purukh is the only one eternal Truth.
He is Truth. Guru Sahiban are one with that Truth. And Bhagat Jan, Gurmukh Jan, just as Guru Jee also, draw our attention to that one Truth, by the means of Nam bhakti alone.
Stay blessed.
SSA.

Veer ji just a quick scroll i found on the subject about how the avtars are subject to death in sri dasam granth sahib ji bani like akal ustat and bachitar natak
 

There is no polite way to say this but you guys are stupid. 
"Oh, I read the first few lines and it says murlee manohar, krishan, hari. Oh yeah, gurbani is praising krishan as the almighty. Let's head to the nearest iscon temple, yeah!"
BTW, I am not denying that Krishan is worthy of our respect. 
Let me explain myself. Had you guys read the shabad properly, it is not hard to understand that this is not in the praise of the satoguni Vishnu, rather the one beyond satogun, brahman/ vaheguru himself. It says, "you are ram chand the one without any form". That is talking about the formless lord within ram chandar. "you are krishna and the gopis", this indicates that the whole creation is brahman/ vaheguru/ parbraham/ allah/etc. The formless one is in all. The shabad further mentions how god has "many limbs". This is definitely not about Vishnu, rather the form of vaheguru which is expansive, endless and infinite. This shabad is to highlight and praise the non-dual nature of vaheguru, yet his many forms are conveyed, which are the very essence of the creation. There is none other than he, even that is the idea that is so poetically conveyed in this shabad. Interesting, is it not? He is the formless one yet he has infinite forms. These forms, however are a play. They are in fact, the same form. This is understood when the ego loosens its grip on us. One truly realises that nothing is separate from the source, vaheguru and that everything is within him even as he resides in all. 
Therefore, Vishnu is not praised as he is subject to death. He is bound by maya due to being satoguni. Prior to him, many Vishnus have served the creation and many will do so after the present Vishnu. So many Krishnas and Ramas have walked the earth. So many yet to come. There is no end to the lord's creation. For he is the creator and the one that manifests as the created. "Brahm mahesar bisan sachipat ant phase jam phaas parenge". Brahm= brahma, mahesar=shiva, bisan= Vishnu, Sachipat= husband of sachi (Indra). Hence, Brahama, shiva, Vishnu and Indra are subject to the noose of the god of death. How, then can they save us from our mortal woes? 
It is a matter of fact that, the shabad is praising the infinite forms of vaheguru which he manifests in, to take part in his creation. Hence, the formless lord is being praised, for he alone is the one that governs the hearts of all  he alone is all there is. He is maya, brahma, Vishnu, shiva, indra, etc. He is detached yet part of his creation. The creation is in him and he is in the creation. Every atom of the universe is occupied by him, he is within the hearts of all, man and beast. I do not see how this shabad can be interpreted in a way as you have done as that is not even what is implied. And it is crystal clear. 

There is no polite way to say this but you guys are stupid. 
"Oh, I read the first few lines and it says murlee manohar, krishan, hari. Oh yeah, gurbani is praising krishan as the almighty. Let's head to the nearest iscon temple, yeah!"
BTW, I am not denying that Krishan is worthy of our respect. 
Let me explain myself. Had you guys read the shabad properly, it is not hard to understand that this is not in the praise of the satoguni Vishnu, rather the one beyond satogun, brahman/ vaheguru himself. It says, "you are ram chand the one without any form". That is talking about the formless lord within ram chandar. "you are krishna and the gopis", this indicates that the whole creation is brahman/ vaheguru/ parbraham/ allah/etc. The formless one is in all. The shabad further mentions how god has "many limbs". This is definitely not about Vishnu, rather the form of vaheguru which is expansive, endless and infinite. This shabad is to highlight and praise the non-dual nature of vaheguru, yet his many forms are conveyed, which are the very essence of the creation. There is none other than he, even that is the idea that is so poetically conveyed in this shabad. Interesting, is it not? He is the formless one yet he has infinite forms. These forms, however are a play. They are in fact, the same form. This is understood when the ego loosens its grip on us. One truly realises that nothing is separate from the source, vaheguru and that everything is within him even as he resides in all. 
Therefore, Vishnu is not praised as he is subject to death. He is bound by maya due to being satoguni. Prior to him, many Vishnus have served the creation and many will do so after the present Vishnu. So many Krishnas and Ramas have walked the earth. So many yet to come. There is no end to the lord's creation. For he is the creator and the one that manifests as the created. "Brahm mahesar bisan sachipat ant phase jam phaas parenge". Brahm= brahma, mahesar=shiva, bisan= Vishnu, Sachipat= husband of sachi (Indra). Hence, Brahama, shiva, Vishnu and Indra are subject to the noose of the god of death. How, then can they save us from our mortal woes? 
It is a matter of fact that, the shabad is praising the infinite forms of vaheguru which he manifests in, to take part in his creation. Hence, the formless lord is being praised, for he alone is the one that governs the hearts of all  he alone is all there is. He is maya, brahma, Vishnu, shiva, indra, etc. He is detached yet part of his creation. The creation is in him and he is in the creation. Every atom of the universe is occupied by him, he is within the hearts of all, man and beast. I do not see how this shabad can be interpreted in a way as you have done as that is not even what is implied. And it is crystal clear. 

There is no polite way to say this but you guys are stupid. 
"Oh, I read the first few lines and it says murlee manohar, krishan, hari. Oh yeah, gurbani is praising krishan as the almighty. Let's head to the nearest iscon temple, yeah!"
BTW, I am not denying that Krishan is worthy of our respect. 
Let me explain myself. Had you guys read the shabad properly, it is not hard to understand that this is not in the praise of the satoguni Vishnu, rather the one beyond satogun, brahman/ vaheguru himself. It says, "you are ram chand the one without any form". That is talking about the formless lord within ram chandar. "you are krishna and the gopis", this indicates that the whole creation is brahman/ vaheguru/ parbraham/ allah/etc. The formless one is in all. The shabad further mentions how god has "many limbs". This is definitely not about Vishnu, rather the form of vaheguru which is expansive, endless and infinite. This shabad is to highlight and praise the non-dual nature of vaheguru, yet his many forms are conveyed, which are the very essence of the creation. There is none other than he, even that is the idea that is so poetically conveyed in this shabad. Interesting, is it not? He is the formless one yet he has infinite forms. These forms, however are a play. They are in fact, the same form. This is understood when the ego loosens its grip on us. One truly realises that nothing is separate from the source, vaheguru and that everything is within him even as he resides in all. 
Therefore, Vishnu is not praised as he is subject to death. He is bound by maya due to being satoguni. Prior to him, many Vishnus have served the creation and many will do so after the present Vishnu. So many Krishnas and Ramas have walked the earth. So many yet to come. There is no end to the lord's creation. For he is the creator and the one that manifests as the created. "Brahm mahesar bisan sachipat ant phase jam phaas parenge". Brahm= brahma, mahesar=shiva, bisan= Vishnu, Sachipat= husband of sachi (Indra). Hence, Brahama, shiva, Vishnu and Indra are subject to the noose of the god of death. How, then can they save us from our mortal woes? 
It is a matter of fact that, the shabad is praising the infinite forms of vaheguru which he manifests in, to take part in his creation. Hence, the formless lord is being praised, for he alone is the one that governs the hearts of all  he alone is all there is. He is maya, brahma, Vishnu, shiva, indra, etc. He is detached yet part of his creation. The creation is in him and he is in the creation. Every atom of the universe is occupied by him, he is within the hearts of all, man and beast. I do not see how this shabad can be interpreted in a way as you have done as that is not even what is implied. And it is crystal clear. 

Bhakti of Waheguru, is the highest expresion of Love.
For any other love, be it of a parents for their child, of 2 lovers, of a child for the parents, howsoever high, yet there is maya in it.
For even by giving that much love, there is still separatedness, there are frictions many a times throughout the course of lives.
But is only by loving and devoting ourselves to Waheguru alone, that we get rid of all of our impurities, lose our false individuality, and merge in our beloved, by becoming one with Him.
This oneness with Him, is the best and highest  expression of Love, and apaar kirpa, for if, had He not pull us from within, we would have never even think of Him.
SSA.

A very good and a very inspirational post, wah wah.

But if I am allowed, I would humbly say that there is one more type of bhakti or love, the one of a Guru and chela, a Gurmukh and a sikh.

And the best examples we have in the lives of our Guru Sahibans. Just for example, Sachay Patshah Guru Arjun Dev Maharaj, was the son of Satguru Ram Das Maharaj, but, He did not take Him as a father, but as His Guru.

And so, even being a single moment away from the beloved Satguru, it seems endless in time, and the sikh feels like a fish out of water, means going through hell...

While, when the sikh is in the company of His beloved Satguru....it is like being in ectasy, in a blissful state, he is most happy and fortunate on the surface of the earth.

And this bond is created by the Gurmukh alone, who has attached His sikh with Himself, with His gurparsad, with the tight rope of Nam.

In Bhakti, the devotee establishes a near and dear relationship with the Lord. He cultivates slowly any one of the six Bhavas according to his temperament, taste and capacity.

Bhava are the six kinds of attributes of devotees or Bhavas towards God. The Bhavas differ in type and intensity of feeling. The different Bhavas are arranged in order of their intensity.

Santa Bhava Dhruva and Prahlada had the feeling of a child to its parents.

Dasya Bhava the devotee behaves like a servant. His Lord is his Master. Hanuman is an ideal servant of God.

Sakhya Bhava, there is a sense of equality. Arjuna and Kuchela had this Bhava.

Vatsalya Bhava, the devotee looks upon the Lord as his own child. Yasoda had this Bhava for Sri Krishna. Kausalya had this Bhava for Sri Rama.

Kanta Bhava is the love of the wife to the husband. Sita and Rukmini had this Bhava.

Madhurya Bhava where culmination is reached. The lover and the Beloved become one through the intensity of love. Radha and Mira had this type of love.

The last Bhava is the highest culmination of Bhakti. It is merging or absorption in the Lord. The devotee adores the Lord. He constantly remembers Him. He sings His Name (Kirtan). He speaks of His glories. He repeats His Name. He chants His Mantra. He prays and prostrates. He hears His Lilas. He does total, ungrudging, unconditional surrender, obtains His grace, holds communion with Him and gets absorbed in Him eventually.

In Madhurya Bhava, there is the closest relationship between the devotee and the Lord. There is no sensuality in Kanta and Madhurya Bhavas. There is no tinge of carnality in them. Passionate people cannot understand these two Bhavas as their minds are saturated with passion and lower sexual appetite. Sufistic saints also have the Bhava of lover and the Beloved, Madhurya Bhava. Gita Govinda written by Jaya Deva is full of Madhurya Rasa. The language of love which the mystic uses cannot be comprehended by worldly persons. Only Gopis, Radha, Mira, Tukaram, Narada, Hafiz, can understand this language.

Fascinating pictures taken at night of Darbar Kartarpur Sahib.
A wonder created by FWO in eight months.
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 
 

 
 
 
 

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Best wishes to everyone !!!!!

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Satguru nanak dev nirankar di avtar purb diya sangata nuo lakh lakh vaadiya hove!!