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18 minutes ago, dalsingh101 said:
Did you notice that the council stopped giving a permit for the East London one a few years ago. I used to enjoy them, but yeah, they became a literal jaloose.
Plus i also heard that how the council was asking for £50k for holding the Nagar Kirtan. Now thats a lot of money for one day. But yes i agree with you veer ji it became a literal jaloose.
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Jhatka
Weapons for Guru Gobind Singh Ji and in turn the Khalsa are given the utmost respect and status, akin to the respect afforded to Sri Akaal Purakh. The poetic compostion of Sri Shastar Naam Maala is in itself evidence of this. Traditionally, according to the ancient warrior kshatriya traditions of India, in order for weapons to be treated with the respect which they deserve, they were annointed with blood, a form of tilak, as they are today in the Nihang Singh tradition.
One way in which the Tilak was applied was through Jhatka as we shall explore in greater detail below.
Integral to the traditional way of Shastar Pooja (the Worship of Weapons through amongst other things applying tilak in the form of blood), is the carrying out of Jhatka of an animal preferably a male bakra (goat), whilst Chandi di Vaar, a bani from Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji, is recited. On hearing the final words of this bani (Fir Na Jooni Aiya) the head is decapitated in one strike (Jhatka-Gatka)
ਫੇਰਿ ਨ ਜੂਨੀ ਆਇਆ ਜਿਨਿ ਇਹ ਗਾਇਆ ॥੫੫॥
And that person who sings it (Chandi Di Vaar), Will not take birth again.55
Ang 325, Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib
Furthermore, in relation to Jhatka, there is a Sakhi located within the Sri Gurpartap Suraj Parkash Granth, where the Joganiya (battlefield spirits) came to Sahib Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji and asked for langar. Maharaj offered them Guru Ka Langar which they declined but instead respectfully requested that they consume their langar on the battlefield.
In respect of the above sakhi and in order to fully place this in context via the tradition and maryada of Jhatka and why it is integral to shastar pooja and in turn mandatory for the Khalsa, we must take in to consideration the fact that Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji was known as the Vishav Kosh (the knowledge of all granths) in puratan times.
Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a Granth dedicated to socio-political awareness, an awareness which comes from within this Granth and as such and in order to fully obtain this awareness an invocation to the highest Jogani is mandatory.
In days of old the Singhs, prior to going to war, used to perform Akhand Paaths of Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji in order to ask these joganis to assist them in the battlefield-assistance which would ultimately secure victory for the Khalsa on the battlefield.
The belief was, therefore, by invoking them – to have them in your presence whilst engaging on the battlefield, you will attain victory over your enemy. Henceforth when an Akhand Paath Sahib or continuous Jaaps of the Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji (or the banis within), the Jhatka is mandatory for the Joganiya, linking in to the sakhi of Sahib Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji.
In various forms of Shastar, we recognise these shastars to be a representation of the supreme Jogani (Chandi) therefore in Sri Hazoor Sahib Takhat Abchal Nagar, one of the very few remaining Gurdwara Sahibs that uphold Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s original Maryada, the Shastars are annointed with a Tilak.
Jhatka is not for fulfilling one’s desire or taste. Maharaj illustrates this as a characteristic of the supreme Jogani (Chandi) within Ath Chandi Charitar Ustat Barananan.
ਭਰੇ ਜੋਗਨੀ ਪਤ੍ਰ ਚਉਸਠ ਚਾਰੰ ॥
Bharai Joganee Pattar Chausatt Chaaran
The highest Mahadevi (Fierce form of the mother of the universe)/Jogani out of the 64 Joganis is Kalika, who holds a Sarbloh Bata (Pattar) whilst pervading in all 4 directions annihilating demons and drinking their blood.
ਚਲੀ ਠਾਮ ਠਾਮੰ ਡਕਾਰੰ ਡਕਾਰੰ ॥
Chalee Ttham Tthaaman Dhakaaran Dhakaaran
She marches forward annihilating demons, and quenching her thirst for Dharam (righteousness).
The concept and understanding, along with the philosophy regarding Jhatka is seen as a rather advanced philosophy, and it must be read and discussed with utmost acceptance and the will to be able to think on a grander scale.
Within the Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji, it states:
ਸਿੰਘ ਰੁਚੈ ਸਦ ਭੋਜਨੁ ਮਾਸ ॥
Singh Ruchai Sad Bhojan Maas
The Singh (lion) always wants to eat meat
Ang 1180, Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji
The Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji also states:
ਮਾਸੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਰਿ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਝਗੜੇ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਣੈ ॥
Maas Maas Kar Moorakh Jhagare Giaan Dhiaan Nahi Janai
The fools argue about flesh and meat, but they know nothing about meditation and spiritual wisdom.
Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, Ang 1289, Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji
Guru Nanak Dev Ji writes in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji:
ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਕੀ ਰਕਤੁ ਨਿਪੰਨੇ ਮਛੀ ਮਾਸੁ ਨ ਖਾਂਹੀ ॥
Maat Pita Kee Rakhat Nippane Machhi Maas Na Khahee
They are produced from the blood of their mothers and fathers, but they do not eat fish or meat
Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, Ang 1289, Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji
The Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a universal message. The Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji does not promote or demote any food as it puts emphasis on Giaan. If a deer is a herbivore or a lion is a carnivore, their diet will not give them a direct link to liberation from rebirth, it is the actions that they perform that destines their spiritual outcome. The Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a universal message and it appeals to all, with whatever ideology that they entrust.
The Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji explains the characteristics of a lion, and the name Singh was given to the Khalsa by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. It is to be understood that many people use certain Tuks from Bhagat Kabir Ji’s Bani to attack the concept of Jhatka, however the Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji is here to help us spiritually, and to keep us in a saintly way.However when the Gurgaddi was passed from Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, the Sri Adi Guru Granth Sahib Ji, the Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji (Vishav Kosh) and the Sri Sarabloh Granth Sahib Ji (Sri Manglacharan Puran) were made Guru.It should be noted that the Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji and Sri Sarabloh Granth Sahib Ji offer knowledge on socio-political affairs, and how to live life. The Khalsa was not a Nirmala institute, and people nowadays must not use the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as a menu to attack others, but to respect the 3 Granths and to view knowledge from all Guru Granths.Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji wrote in the Sri Bachittar Natak:
ਭਾਂਤਿ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਬਨਿ ਖੇਲ ਸਿਕਾਰਾ ॥ ਮਾਰੇ ਰੀਛ ਰੋਝ ਝੰਖਾਰਾ ॥੧॥
I went hunting various kinds of animals in the forest and killed bears, nilgais (blue bulls) and elks.1.Ang 143, Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji
Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji used to hunt. It was a common Khalsa practice that has been documented in Puratan Rehitnameh. Within the Bhai Daya Singh Ji (Panj Pyare) Rehatnama, it states:
ਖੇਲੈਂ ਨਿੱਤ ਸ਼ਿਕਾਰ ਬਨਨ ਮੈਂ, ਮਾਰਿ ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਬਹੁ ਖਾਵੈਂ ।
Always partake in hunting, [practice] killing deer and then eat your hunt.This important and mandatory Khalsa tradition is crucial for several reasons;
It serves to condition the warriors mind with what it is like to kill something, something which is alive one moment and dead the next, something which bleeds and breathes the same as us. If one is expected to go to war and fight for Dharam Yudh as the Khalsa is duty bound to do, one must try and get their head around this important concept. To kill is not for everyone, hence why this maryada is for the Khalsa only in order to condition the warriors and prepare them for the horrors of war. The question must be considered that if one is unable to handle a goat being hunted, then how could you fight on the battlefield where bloodshed is inevitable?
By killing the goat from a blow from a bladed weapon it also served the Khalsa with important military/ fighting/training skills. To kill a man by decapitation in the wars of yesteryear was the best way for the Khalsa to fight as it meant a quick death, it meant the victim could not get up and attack you or your kin again and it also saved time for the already outnumbered Khalsa warriors who had to inflict quick and deadly blows in order to fight effectively against their massive enemy armies.
The neck of a goat is known to be equal in size and construction to that of humans. So by killing the goat through Jhatka it enabled the Khalsa warriors to gage exactly how much force was required when killing their enemy so as to help preserve energy in the battlefield. It was and still is an effective training excercise for Khalsa Warriors.
Once the Bakra has been Jhatkad the blood from the animal [which is now considered as being not dirty but pure as it has been killed by a bladed weapon and therefore, akin to being blessed by Sri Akaal Purakh, as Guru Gobind Singh Ji refers to the Kirpan and Khanda as his masters, a metaphor for the almighty] is used as Tilak to be placed upon the weapons of war as has been the ritual practice of Kshatriya Warriors.
For the Khalsa the weapons of war are not just merely weapons they are a manifestation of Akaal Purakh’s Energy-
ਜੋ ਪੂਜਾ ਅਸਿਕੇਤੁ ਕੀ ਨਿਤ ਪ੍ਰਤਿ ਕਰੈ ਬਨਾਇ ॥ ਤਿਨ ਪਰ ਅਪਨੋ ਹਾਥ ਦੈ ਅਸਿਧੁਜ ਲੇਤ ਬਚਾਇ ॥੩੬੭॥
Jo Pooja Askait(u) Kee Nit Prit Kareh Banai. Tin Par Aapno Haath Deh Asidhuj Lait Bachai.
If you worship weapons daily, Asidhuj [Akaal Purakh] will keep their hand over you and will save you.
Ang 2258, Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib
Guru Gobind Singh Ji beautifully elaborates on this in his bani within Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
The meat from the Jhatka’d animal is then used as Mahaa Parshad and distributed as Langar to the Khalsa in order to provide them with the requisite protein needed to build muscle and provide energy when engaged in warfare.
At a time before protein shakes and whilst living in the jungles, swamps and caves the Khalsa ate the meat of a Jhatka’d animal. It was and still is a necessary facet of the Khalsa Warrior Maryada. Again by eating meat it is considered that the mentality of the eater is affected. For the Khalsa Warriors, this was a necessary and desirable outcome as the Khalsa had to become “unsaintly” in order to wage war in the name of dharma. Guru Ji recognised that no saint had ever been to war and therefore, the Khalsa had to be moulded in to Sant – Sipahi, a complete change of psyche to that of the imbalanced and weak state of affairs of the Sants and Brahmins both individually and as a collective community within India.
The skin of the goat was further used for making tabla and nagara (Kettle Drum) skins, and also the bases of stringed instruments. They also served as skins for water carriers which all soldiers were permitted to have. Therefore, we can now see a practical side to why Jhatka was performed, along with the spiritual aspects of this topic.
Finally Jhatka also breaks the transmigration cycle and liberates the goat’s soul. This practice not only keeps the warrior spirit alive within the Khalsa Panth as sanctioned by Guru Gobind Singh Ji but also contrary to some misinformed views which scream of animal cruelty etc serves to liberate the soul of the animal, as is outlined in Guru Gobind Singh Jis Bani, Chandi Di Var.
The Sarab Loh Granth emphasises on Khalsa Raaj with the use of Bir Raas. Just as the physical body requires food/clothes/assests, the Khalsa Raaj requires Maya (illusion). The physical body needs to survive and to satisfy these needs, Maya is required, to buy food/clothes, and fund the empire etc.
The Sarab Loh Granth (Author Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji, mostly compiled by Guru Gobind Singh Ji) highlights the fact that Guru Nanak Dev ji is the manifestation of Parbrahm Parmeswar unlike the other avtaars who were incarnations of Vishnu. Sarabloh Granth ji also emphatically states that no one including Durga can know the limits of Hari. However Mahraaj also mentions that without Maya (illusion) and Laxmi (money) one cannot achieve anything in this world without money (Maya Laxmi) one will suffer. Guru Gobind Singh Ji clearly instructs that the Khalsa Panth should recite and worship Akaal (timeless/deathless) only, the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji also confims this by stating “Sri Maya Jag Mohani”.DisclaimerCopyright © 2023 Shiromani Panth Akali Budha Dal. All Rights Reserved.
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Usually they bathe the animal first then do paath of Chandi di vaar then perform jhatka in the nihang dals
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1 hour ago, GurjantGnostic said:
Fantastic bro. Great share.
Thanks veer ji its all Waheguru Guru Sahib Ji's kirpa Drishti.
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On 3/9/2023 at 4:35 AM, Soulfinder said:Dass just found out that Sri Zafarnama has got 12 chapters and its a lot longer than dass originally thought. As dass only read the starting 111 pauris i thought that was it and the Hikayats were a different bani but found it this week its part of the same bani of Zafarnama sahib.
So looking at the research i have its almost as big as Akal Ustat Sahib and dass will have to the complete paath in chunks like a week depending on when Waheguru Guru Sahib Ji's Kirpa Drishti is on dass.
Dass is extremely happy as it took 4 days to complete the full paath of Sri Zafarnama Sahib Ji with the audio tracks. Dass completed it yesterday with Waheguru Guru Sahib Ji's kirpa Drishti and it was such a beautiful feeling that the sampuran paath has been done.
Dass would like to encourage the sangat to read the whole paath as dass did
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4 hours ago, Mbad said:
Vaheguru ji , we struggled for 6 years with my daughter who is now 22yo with health and spiritual issues . Took her to neurologists and private health practitioners as well as a few gursikh who said we know people who can help but they won’t (no idea why as I was blessed with amrit 4 years ago ). I contacted Giani Thakur who gave me details of babaji who came to the UK in December and I have to say he is the real deal and was brought up by Baba Thakur in Taksal since he was 10 yo. He will be returning to the UK in April so if anyone has any issues please contact me and I will forward his details.
Please note he already has people he is visiting in Scotland, southall and Birmingham
vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ke fateh">
Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh veer ji i need help myself especially since I am on a lot of medication and it would be great if i could meet someone who can help me.
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Glad to see this veer ji
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Its madness reading this.
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35 minutes ago, Shaheed4life said:Thank you for the suggestions veerji! Hanji will definitely do ardas. I'm not creating a forum, like it's just a website for das to upload bani , audios, e books for now since I'm using a free software. Maybe in the future I'll do a forum too and I'll definitely make sure that the forum can upload large files.
The daily reminder of Nitnem is a great suggestion! I will try to find a way to implement it into the site thank you ji!
Live stream suggestion is great too! I didn't think of it. But it might be abit hard so I'll take some time to figure it out and add it in an update! I have completed the main database of the site. It's ready to be available to public now, I have Nitnem audio set up, some gurbani softcopies ready, a section on the rehat maryada is done, and about 4 softcopies of online Sikh books are up as well! I'm thinking of making it public tomorrow as I'll still add a Sakhi section about the lives of all our Gurus then Gursikhs as well. It's hard to put everything up at once, that would mean the site can only be uploaded in about 5 to 6 months. So what I'm thinking of doing is uploading the basic version of the site, then updating it on a regular basis with more Banis, new e books etc.
Thank you for the suggestions sangat ji! Do let me know if I should change or improve anything that I have just mentioned in this plan.
Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh!
Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh veer ji.
Dass is glad to help and give suggestions. I am very interested and thankful as this is gonna be a great idea as its certainly needed big time veer ji. I would suggest that you should look at other websites like gurmatveechar and the Basics of Sikhi YouTube page and browse their Facebook page as it shall help generate and give inspiration to the blue prints of the website that you are gonna make.
Any other suggestions that dass will come across i will let you know veer ji
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2 hours ago, Shaheed4life said:Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh!
And any other sangat ji,
Das is creating a website with a Gurbani archive, Sakhis, recordings and many more. It will be updated on a regular basis.
Any suggestions ji?
Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh!
Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh veer ji.
First of all its a great idea and may Waheguru Guru Sahib Ji do kirpa on you for this great seva.
Dass would recommend you that their shouldn't be any file size attachment restrictions as this site doesn't allow anything past 35mb upload.
Also i would suggest that you do ardas before starting the project as you will need Waheguru Guru Sahib Ji's kirpa for it.
You can add a daily reminder of how many paaths to do in a day and have a sort of a nitnem checker for our members on the site. Also a simran page for sangat who enjoy simran.
A live stream section could useful for the sangat for live deewans across the world or maybe local area deewans. This will work for people whom enjoy Akj kirtan ransbhai samgams.
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1 hour ago, Mooorakh said:Wats the Point. They are all pakke sangmarmar now... Does this mean that they didnt keep his bachan after he left...
Same story of all those deras and sampradas... One holy man attains power. As soom as his soul departs properties stay and so does kaljug ke followers behind... No real true soul only rasam pagri and they all fight for the " Throne"
I agree with you bhen ji as its 100% true what you have wrote. Its really hard now to find a Puran Mahapursh and kalyug has taken over.
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Very bad this happened shocking news
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1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:
Yes its easy to download veer ji and thanks for sharing this information
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Dass heard this video today and before my time is up i wanna take amrit as its a very good real story
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22 hours ago, Premi said:Listening to a Katha from Giani Thakur Singh Ji, they are saying that humans at one time had wings. Does anyone know more about this ? In which cultures do they say this or in mythology? Is there anything in Indian mythology/Scriptures that talk more about it
It's at around 12.30 mins - @Soulfinder can you directly put the link to the audio here ? (and sorry @GurjantGnostic that it's not in English)
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2 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:
Gurbani is God's word. We shud have direct relationship with Gurbani and shud not be over reliant on translations or kathavachaks.
Kathavachaks keep speaking for long hours and sometimes over complicate things.
This shabad is in very simple language.
I agree with you veer ji and you are correct but i haven't read this shabad before so I can't say anything about it.
Here is a katha link that dass found for it and hopefully it should help
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28 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:
Veer ji i am not gonna say anything as i am not a katha vidvan but looking at this shabad i would say that i will try to find out more using katha from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji's bani on Gurmat veechar website
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2 hours ago, Premi said:Jaap Sahib Ji is definitely the most difficult of the Nitnem Bani, I guess to do it slower and read the Arth/meaning would be better just once than multiple without absorbing the meaning?
Veer ji looking back to the time of 2014/2015 Jaap Sahib's pronouncation was really really hard as the first time i had used audio tracks for it. I would personally recommend use this version attached as it breaks downs all the hard words of the paath and it helped me learn the paath quicker
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This news is totally messed up especially targeting Gurdwara Sahib building has lost me for words.
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Dass just found out that Sri Zafarnama has got 12 chapters and its a lot longer than dass originally thought. As dass only read the starting 111 pauris i thought that was it and the Hikayats were a different bani but found it this week its part of the same bani of Zafarnama sahib.
So looking at the research i have its almost as big as Akal Ustat Sahib and dass will have to the complete paath in chunks like a week depending on when Waheguru Guru Sahib Ji's Kirpa Drishti is on dass.
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7 hours ago, Premi said:
I can't see it, can @Soulfinder make into mp4 please ?
I would have veer ji but its gonna private so sorry about that.
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@Shaheed4lifeveer ji i am next thinking about reading the full entire paath of Sri Shastar Naam Mala as everyone mostly reads the first 28 pauris of the bani. According to Dass's research the full paath is upto 1318 pauris which is spilt into 5 chapters in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji. So now dass has got to make a timetable of when and how to read it as hoping to read alongside my current Chandi banis