Jageera

Truth bombs from Ragmaala and GurjantGnostic Veerjis. I'd like to advise you to stop watching Bollywood love movies or TV serials. It's not real, just opium for the indian massess so they forget the misery of daily life and live in fantasy love lalaland. That "very pure soul" is having a narcisstic trip with you playing all these mind games shes enjoying every moment of it. Don't give her the power. Start by stop answering her calls or tell her to buzz off if she does. Tell your mom to stop taking her calls too. For now give 100% to yourself and your parents,much more worth it. This "very pure soul" eats, shits and farts just like you my friend, you carry on with life.

By the way,just curious, did you use to go to your pind gurudwara, city gurudwara, a few aethaasik gurudwaras, at Nanaksar Kalera and at Harmandar Sahib to do Ardaas before "very pure soul" dumped you? If no, then maybe it's a blessing in disguise this happened,at least you got darshan of these Gurudwaras.

Hope you are not a one post wonder and do post responses to all the good advise given in this thread. I want to know the update of this "Dilwale Very Pure Soul Lejayenge".

18 hours ago, Soulfinder said:

Bhoot prett are not a joke as i have read online about how people have started to use a ouija board and next thing you know the prett spirit has been distrubed and all hell has become loose.

Exactly veerji. thats a perfect example of backfiring when those that are incompetent attempt to meddle with the spirit world. The hunter ends up becoming the hunted, or should i say haunted.

When tribal land of indigenous people here was acquired by force by the government and greedy developers, they also encroached and cleared up their burial grounds. Till today the massive development on that land is still being haunted. Their shamans made it a point to add petrol on fire by releasing more wild spirits in that area. The resort developers are still flying in taoist monks and thai shamans to pacify that place so business can go on.

Love this topic,lets hear more experiences.

In my opinion,rather than hunting ghosts unsuccessfully it's better to invoke them if you have the knowhow and protection,even then usually those with an active third eye are able to see and communicate. 

Chance encounters are the fun ones,not much damage done,just get spooked,spirit just miserable or wants to play tricks depending on type.many were never human.

spirits/jins sent by a shaman at the bidding of someone are the deadly ones. Here, the real deal shamans don't keep low grade spirits to do their dirty jobs but old powerful damned creatures who have decades or centuries of experience passed down from  master to student. these are the ones to stay very far from. But can't do that as you dont know when you could get hit because of somebody you offended.

If you do get attacked this way usually manifests as sickness/accidents or you start seeing them,cant sleep,going mad etc. Then you're left with few choices,either go through it with faith in the Waheguru and accept it as his hukam or you find another shaman to heal you. Either the shaman has something much stronger that hes able to bash that creature and the aggressor shaman away(aggressor shaman ends up very sick or dead in this scenario) or the most common ending is a deal is made between the 2 shamans spiritually,that the target has suffered enough etc,let him go, we'll call it even. Being a middle man good samaritan trying to help out the victim in this case is equally dangerous, as you end up being targeted for interfering even if you were only there to provide transportation and emotional support. 

On 7/4/2021 at 7:25 PM, Kaur10 said:

Update: There were days when i couldn't get up in the morning and was feeling guilty.  Now started again last week aiming for 40 continuous days of mool mantar jaap in the morning.  I never stopped reading biography of Sant Baba MahaHarnaam Singh Ji before bedtime and now reading volume 8. 

I am more aware of tinnitus as focus going on in between the ears during the jaap,  sometimes it jumps to front of eyes or on hirda. Concentration getting better each day,  listened to Bhai Balbir Singh USA , a naam abyiyaasi, and his advice worked for me. Long way to go but i am glad i am on the right track.  

Gurbaani makes more sense now,  feeling calm and little detached from world.  Feeling like i should focus on naam abhyiaas and gurbaani as don't know how long to live. Must earn this treasure before the death or the end of human life. 

Good job penji.Keep it up.You are an inspiration.

A little late but heres my 2cents.

On 6/20/2021 at 11:23 PM, lively123 said:

I worry about society’s judgement of me as an unmarried pregnant woman.

Then get married. Many girls have gotten pregnant and a marriage was arranged fast,no problem but as another poster asked,is the man a Sikh?You just mentioned indian man.

On 6/20/2021 at 11:23 PM, lively123 said:

As a result of this shame, I feel the best option for me would be to have an abortion at this stage.

Why shame now,no shame during 10years together unmarried? And your answer to cover this "shame" is to end an innocent life?He/She already has a heartbeat at this age.

On 6/20/2021 at 11:23 PM, lively123 said:

My plan for later this year is to marry the same man and to have children but I don't feel I am able to continue with this pregnancy as it is out of wedlock. He wants to keep the baby and he will not support me if I were to have the abortion.

Why ask this question here when you have made up your mind to commit murder to cover up your own actions?Are you looking for approval,sympathy or a group hug session?Looks like the man has higher moral values than you as he doesn't want his child to be murdered.By your post you seem more concerned about yours and your families reputation and "honour" more than the life of your own child in your belly.

On 6/20/2021 at 11:23 PM, lively123 said:

What should I do?

I'll tell you what you Should Not do for your own sake. Please Don't kill the child. He/She is your OWN flesh and blood. He/She is already your family member. Its murder and a very big sin and it will haunt you for the rest of your life and you will have to pay for this evil karma,no escaping it if you proceed with abortion. Either get married or put the child up for adoption,I'm sure are many couples that would love to adopt.It's the right thing to do.

Im sure you will read this and i hope you will update us on your final decision although i doubt you will.

7 hours ago, Kaur1510 said:

Started but struggling to do at fixed time. Taking about 30 mins for one 108 mala of Mool Mantar, doing about 2 malas daily. Getting better in crossed leg position and focusing in between the eye brows. Feeling focused in dark,  so I close the blinds or use thick shawl to cover my head and eyes if seeing the light.  

If i am doing it very slowly by listening with ears and translating the meaning in my brain or heart then i get lost in my thoughts.  May be because it is the beginning!  

If I am doing it faster in my mind,  then it helps me to concentrate and i could go on autopilot for naam jaap for an hour. It is giving me good feeling even though i am not translating its meanings. I am doing jaap mostly at one place and I feel my body goes in jaap mode when I sit there with my mala. 

Next step is to set up a place on floor with cushion to sit on,  facing east charda paasa and having little water next to me. 

I was doing mool mantar in the shower too, but couldn't do on the day I shaved my hair. I was feeling guilty and thinking I must start wearing full sleeves like Muslim girls.  

Repeated actions build up habit and doing mool mantar repeatedly would be the only way to go ahead on my spiritual journey.  

 

Keep it up! Autopilot experience is awesome. Any feeling on the top of your head, like someone is pulling you up with a hook in the top of the head?

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On 4/22/2021 at 2:19 AM, Lioness11 said:

Well done for staying clean. I know someone who was never spiritual before they got clean but after rehab does Japji Sahib every morning, does a mindfulness meditation each morning and gets therapy. And it’s done them wonders. I’m sure there’s a lot more they need to do to keep clean, but it’s a large part of how they go through life now. 
 

Seeing how dukhi can turn turn a human towards God is a truly Beautiful thing. Seeing the bright side of recovery from addiction, in moving closer to Truth is key I believe. Sometimes people come out of it stronger and better than they were before. But the path can be tough, I know that so well done to you. 
 

Ive never had a great issue with alcohol but I did used to drink it and made a vow to fully give it up one day, which I broke once and then kept after that. It’s been over a decade now. But the dukhi from the kind of life I was living did turn me towards God. 

Great post. A total lifestyle change is whats needed.

Any updates Sajjan?

On 5/9/2021 at 1:18 AM, Kaur1510 said:

I would like to start and would post soon. it is nice if you have company

Do start!

On 4/19/2021 at 6:57 AM, LettingGo said:

@Jageera Veer ji, would love to hear how your recovery/life/spiritual journey is going?

My experience has been that relapse (fortunately and unfortunately) has been part of the journey and has humbled me again and again just enough so that I may be ready again to ‘give myself completely’ to play that game of love our dear Guru ji speaks off (“Jio tho prem kiln ka chao.... “ ) . I’m just Sharing my experience here, not saying I that it is will be the same for others.

My experience is that of the last 10 years after being introduced to recovery (through drug and alcohol treatment centres which focused on many tools including 12 step recovery), Guru ji certainly was the ‘power greater than myself’ that I incorporated and it was easier to reconnect as I had grown up with it all around me.  I have spent most of these years clean as a result, however despite wonderful gifts flooding back into my life (more talking non-material gifts here), for me it remains on the level of a daily commitment, reallly moment to moment to choose the path being ‘liv’ or ‘taat’. Have to remind myself that it is Gurprasad that a pathway of recovery was even shown to me, that I am able to take a breath and that really I cannot take credit for all the grace that Guru bestows on me.
 

Above, I am referring to relapses after having being introduced to whatever method of recovery and finding great excitement in being clean, feeling Guru Ji’s blessing and love and knowing that ‘void’ was indeed a spiritual one and was being filled and that intoxication was not even a thought — through to the addiction, 5 doots, ego, the ‘disease’, ‘kaal’ whatever you wish to call it taking over and eventually a relapse.

It has been painful and I do have a growing fear that I may have squandered the gift sometimes but I hope you are enjoying a new life and Guruji continues to guide your way home.

Would love to connect and hear from you

The most important thing I've learned is to avoid the company of those who still indulge in intoxicants no matter for whatever reason. Let them curse and mock you,you carry on ,find new friends,if none available pick up a new hobby.

Get a habit of exercising,that helps alot.

Do your nitnem and simran daily,as much as you can,when you can.Try watching Bhai Simranjeet Tohana on youtube,has a channel Waheguru Waheguru,posts highly informative vids that teach simran.

A tip,when having strong urges to drink etc,try to take the money that you plan to buy the bottle with,and give it to some beggars or Gurudwara,or buy food and donate somewhere,just anything charitable to burn the exact amount the bottle costs.It helps you change your mind as you see the same money that is gonna get you piss drunk is able to help others.

Wish you the best brother.Even if you fall get up and try again immediately.

Slowly with time,there would be a stronger arm that holds you and makes sure you never fall again,but we need to work hard to develop that level of faith.