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  1. Thank you for this one. It is more clear than any of the previous ones for a ' niyaana' like me. Thanks. now i may find my steps further.
  2. That would be great. Thank youfor posting this. It's an amazing piece of literature, which we may have not access to otherwise. I loved the way the sifat/ upma of Guru Sahib and his shastr s is done here. No wonder Ani Rai ji was welcomed and regarded/ rewarded by Guru Sahibaans.
  3. The most surprising part for me was that even after being a 5 time 'namazi' and being such learned( as he sounds) of Quran Sharif, he wasn't even heard once because '"Ek baar jin tumhe sambhaara Kaal phaas te taahi ubaara"
  4. People have started calling me ' 'mad' and I am happy about it 😇

    1. dalsingh101

      dalsingh101

      Why have they started calling you mad? What you doing? 

    2. Mooorakh

      Mooorakh

      Lol... there r many instances 

      1. Talking to 🌲🌳🌴

      2. Didn't find the death of the little boy who fell in the pit as saddening

      3. Instead got upset 😭 when the landlord of the mango farm found a way out to 'kill' all those trees naturally and is now selling those as commercial plots ( they say of course that's a correct move as he was wasting his expensive ( in crores) main road property on Mangoes worth few thousands.))  And I stand against his smart move. 

      4.Govt is cutting off those mountains for four way lanes - all others see 'progress' i am complaining- i am called - pagal hai 

      5 I fought with the sweeper of our area as he was trapping little cute piglets when everyone else said whatever he did with them was none of my business   haha 😂😂 

  5. After seeing this one, I kept thinking how strong these moh k dhaage are and we ve kept lingering to it since so many janams
  6. Well veerji snoring means blocked channels. This may reflect bad health, pls read about saas saas simran- Pranayam on this forum and get to work ASAP. P.s. My husband used to snore too and never indulge in healthy lifestyle even after constant nagging from me but since we have come back from Hemkund Sahib ( it's been 5-6 weeks)) he hasn't snored
  7. Yeah he says it in every possible way n we Still don't hear. Every thing around us is in cycle. Round. I have heard in a katha of Pinderpal ji that a wheel keeps on repeating its rounds again and again and thus covers long distances. Repetition of Gurumantra can thus take us to heights of spirituality. In childhood mom used to instruct the same things again n again. .. So if only one of those several panktis finds root in our hearts❤. We will be blessed. (Kinka aek jis jee basaave)
  8. Yeah thas wat... Otherwise it can't be this bad.
  9. Probably they have Intentionally not included those who have answered correctly... how's this possible that NOT ONE person knows about the real history?
  10. O... Sorry for the late reply Yes these are good links above. Still try and read the 18, 19 page of this thread only @Luckyveerji has described the things so well Let me paste it for us here. It's too good and has helped me alot Quote Lucky 1,876 Posted April 5, 2014 I was just going to explain my interpretation of Rom Rom simran. It's mentioned quite often in the order of saas graas, saas saas and then rom rom, but very rarely does any mahapursh give any details about it. I get that impression because it is a very practical technique that involves sukham sareer compared to physical, and I assume that most teachers/mahapursh/sant show and demonstrate to an abyhasee only after he is adept in saas graas and saas saas. It almost seems as it is kept hush hush and some sant/mahapursh don't reveal to student until x-amount of years have been spent doing the other vidhis/jugtees. I found that I could get a little information from one place and another little idea from another,,,,, so basically, my interpretation is from gathering the little bits and putting them together from varying sources. I must stress that as far as I understand it, one should be doing this only when they know how to maintain or get very close to a steadiness and when they are able to get breath balanced (ie,, via sukhmana channel) Primarily,one has to do more abyhaas to get the nadhis cleansed and stimulated, and when this happens- the sukham sareer properties start coming into play. I won't go into the vidhies of breath balancing or dhyian control for now,but will give you my understanding and how I've been doing the rom rom simran. ROM ROM SIMRAN This is pasanti bhani jap- which is mental,silent and completely from the sukham Mind. and it is antar ghat (completely internal) We are using sukham ears and sukhammouth to jap. (ie,,,sukham gyan and karam indries) It is ALL sukham compared to the Physical breathing manoeuvres/inhalations/tongue use....etc.. in Saas graas & Saas saas However, there is the beginning aspect of trying to feel the pulse or heartbeat, that is classed as physical. But once you master this, then it all becomes sukham. A little point I would like to make is about some confusion for matching breathing with heartbeat - which can no doubt lead to hyperventilation! I really don't think that you should match your breath to heartbeat- since this is ALL sukham. If we start matching physical breath then we are going towards sargun/physical behaviour again. The way I see it is- With simran we progress through the jugtees and techniques by gradually making our surti, dhyian and actions, to move from Sargun to Nirgun. So, if our surti can come out and away from the sargun body, then we move away from the grasps of kaal and his maya dominance. Therefore, we need to make surti/dhyian move from Sargun to Nirgun. (remember- before creation there was just the nirgun shabad and all sargun manifested later. It makes sense to go back home in that reverse order!) As for the rapid breathing technique that can lead to hyperventilation and hypoxia, I am aware that some keertan sangats practice this, but this is not to be confused with heartbeat & rom rom jugtee, or any other jugtee for that matter. Hypoxia or oxygen deprivation from rapid hyperventilation can give someone a good feeling of being lightheaded. I have heard how some of these kirtan sangats(akj) claim to have feelings of divine anand from their fast paced kirtan samagams, but this is nothing much different than the 2 minute high that party students get with nitric 'poppers', because of same oxygen starvation effects. Technique/method 1) 1st quieten and get that steady state where breath is balanced. 2) Try and feel your heart beat by putting the focus into that area 3) If this is difficult, then it may help if- -a) you hold your breath for a few seconds and then try to locate/listen. -b) Or you can instead ,try to feel your pulse on the wrist. 4) Once you find the beat and can follow it's beating rhythm, then putting some more dhyian there should make it more louder and prominent. 5) the anhad naad/dhun should also get more prominent if you have it present. -I usually find that they both get more enhanced at the same time 6) Now, that the heart beating is clear and can be followed, you incorporate and match the gurmantar along with it to begin rom rom. -this itself can be done in 2 ways a) you should be able to identify an ''up'' beat and a ''down'' beat. ...then coincide the Wahe-with-Up, and the Guru-with-Down. OR.. b) when the beat is too fast to differentiate the up/down, then you can match the whole gurmantar with this faster beat. For eg..you are saying waheguru,waheguru,waheguru, without any pause or breaks in wahe-and-guru. With practice, you should eventually be able to locate the heartbeat without touching or feeling any pulse. If you HOLD the breath for a few seconds, then this also make it easier to sense. NEXT, the goal is to put the focus on navel, because when focusing at navel, one can be steady in the sukhmanna channel and trying to rise upwards. The sukhmanna channel runs directly from navel area towards the nijh ghar. (in a straight line along the path of chakras) Before we are born and in the womb, this connection is fully active and intune with waheguru. When the umbilical cord is cut and the first birth breath is taken, that's when the veil layers of maya world start their course. You could also say that the knot to maya is tied after cord is cut/breath is taken in atmosphere. ਮਨ ਰੇ ਪਵਨ ਦ੍ਰਿੜ ਸੁਖਮਨ ਨਾਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Man re pavan ḏariṛ sukẖman nārī. ||1|| rahā▫o. O mind, hold your breath steady within the central channel of the Sushmanaa. ||1||Pause|| It's important to get the steady breath balance before you start rom rom. This steadiness and control comes when there are no thoughts. If any thoughts arise, then the breath balancing goes into either side of Ida or Pingala. That’s why it is called the turbulent ocean (bhavsagar) because we rock from side to side (left to right), or from ida to pingala whilst trying to travel up the nadis and trying to maintain the steadiness in sukhmana throughout. This 2nd stage of rom rom is to focus around navel area and feel the pulse there which is much more sukham. The focus, I believe is not directly at the belly button, but you feel the pulse and rom rom vibration just below it and deeper inside. It is the area called the DHARAN.- which is about 1 inch below and 1 inch inwards. I often find it a little easier to locate this subtle area compared to the heartbeat sometimes. With practice it should become easier and almost instant. The vibrations that I feel there can be Inand Out and so I use the mental Wahe-inand Guru-out, OR sometimes they may be going slightlyup/down at an angle rather than in/out, but I still use the same method and have noticed that the rate of rom rom vibration is practically the same. All the jap is done in complete sukham from the mind, and it can help if you do the internal, mental chant with the inner voice being raised with some power behind it. (as if your enforcing your internal chant) The last check I usually make is to be sure that I am breathing slowly and normally, and not accidentally incorporating the breath into the jap rhythm-which can be very easily done (and then you can end up with the hyperventilating issue explained above). Again, with practice, this will become instant and second nature. This practice takes you on a whole new quest with both mystical and spiritual experiences, that are individual and personally tailored to each of us. You will know that they can't be discussed openly. I can seriously understand why it is of great importance to have the right sangat and experienced gurmukh/mahapursh/sant guidance/advisor to assist you along the encounters at this stage. This is probably the reason to why it has the "hush hush'' factor and doesn't get mentioned too often. Sadly, I'm not in the company of any mahapursh and at certain times I have felt the desperate need to get questions answered. So far, I seemed to have managed using gurbani, certain info sources, practice and of course, Waheguru's blessings. Using the above practice method should eventually make Rom Rom fully manifest/pargat. There are a few nishanees that can help determine if it's pargat in full or not, but I won't go into those here.
  11. Cooool... Wow. All the best. Pls do read about rom rom simran from this site... And keep growing. But remember this always.. ਕਰਮੀ ਸਹਜੁ ਨ ਊਪਜੈ ਵਿਣੁ ਸਹਜੈ ਸਹਸਾ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਨਹ ਜਾਇ ਸਹਸਾ ਕਿਤੈ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਰਹੇ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਏ ॥ ਸਹਸੈ ਜੀਉ ਮਲੀਣੁ ਹੈ ਕਿਤੁ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਧੋਤਾ ਜਾਏ ॥ ਮੰਨੁ ਧੋਵਹੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਲਾਗਹੁ ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਰਹਹੁ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਇ ॥ ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਸਹਜੁ ਉਪਜੈ ਇਹੁ ਸਹਸਾ ਇਵ ਜਾਇ ॥੧੮॥ {ਪੰਨਾ 919} It's all about 'Gurprasadi'. Don't let ur ego come in between. It's him doing 'his' Jaap
  12. Yes. Thank u. Maskeen ji's audios above confirmed that. I have a long way to go still...
  13. Well long ago I wrote an article on this. It was published on fb page. I will chk if I could find the link.. Guru Sahib talks.. Yes he does and such is his love. We may not understand it then but time being we realize, how relevant baani was to things ..... Here's d link I hv found...
  14. SSA Ji I had same issues.. Still coping.. All d best Listen to this video. This will help.
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