Mooorakh

Few things that i have noted during my practice and may help or motivate others. I plan to jot here. I stand to be corrected. @Lucky @Sat1176veerji tagged for correction and support. We need not chant loudly all day however we have to do baikhari bani jaap atleast few minutes a day ( more initially n less at later stages) to 1. wash us off our daily maya indulgence. 2. As we chant loudly our naval automatically gets pull inside at Waahe and released at Guru... Like a yoga asan ( I think it's kapal bhaati) n release of Amrit ras gets activated.

I am really sorry soulfinder veerji -- no offence but this is a Very misleading and a wrong video. Totally against the Gurbani pankti written by Kabir ji in the video itself. anyone listening to this video please replace the word mala with Jivha or tongue as you listen to it. Materials don't become parmesar the roop - Mann does. Human soul does. if we chant waheguru, we get sugandhi from INSIDE NOT FROM MAALA. if we do jaap the fruit is bestowed to our Mann not to wood or plastic simarni. Hide your inside self from negativity NOT materialistic maala.

BwgTVy hir sMq qum@wry ijn@ Gir Dnu hir nwmw ] bhaagaThaRe har sa(n)t tum(h)aare jin(h) ghar dhan har naamaa || prvwxu gxI syeI ieh Awey sPl iqnw ky kwmw ]1] paravaan ganee seiee ieh aae safal tinaa ke kaamaa ||1|| myry rwm hir jn kY hau bil jweI ] mere raam har jan kai hau bal jaiee || kysw kw kir cvru Fulwvw crx DUiV muiK lweI ]1] rhwau ] kesaa kaa kar chavar ddulaavaa charan dhooR mukh laiee ||1|| rahaau || jnm mrx duhhU mih nwhI jn praupkwrI Awey ] janam maran dhuhahoo meh naahee jan paraupakaaree aae || jIA dwnu dy BgqI lwiein hir isau lYin imlwey ]2] jeea dhaan dhe bhagatee lain har siau lain milaae ||2|| scw Amru scI pwiqswhI scy syqI rwqy ] sachaa amar sachee paatisaahee sache setee raate || scw suKu scI vifAweI ijs ky sy iqin jwqy ]3] sachaa sukh sachee vaddiaaiee jis ke se tin jaate ||3|| pKw PyrI pwxI Fovw hir jn kY pIsxu pIis kmwvw ] pakhaa feree paanee ddovaa har jan kai peesan pees kamaavaa || nwnk kI pRB pwis bynµqI qyry jn dyKxu pwvw ]4]7]54] naanak kee prabh paas bena(n)tee tere jan dhekhan paavaa ||4||7||54||

Bhagat Kabeer Sahib warns us that similarly there is are traps to catch the crazy or stupid human minds – so called Teerath places, Karamkaand (rituals), and so on. ਨਾਵਨ ਕਉ ਤੀਰਥ ਘਨੇ ਮਨ ਬਉਰਾ ਰੇ ਪੂਜਨ ਕਉ ਬਹੁ ਦੇਵ ॥ ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਛੂਟਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਮਨ ਬਉਰਾ ਰੇ ਛੂਟਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਸੇਵ ॥੪॥੧॥੬॥੫੭॥: O crazy mind! There are so many places of pilgrimage in which to bathe, and so many gods to worship. Says Kabeer! O crazy mind, there is no liberation like this; only by serving Hari (Mool, Truth, Wisdom…) will you find liberation (from doubt, Maya…). ||4||1||6||57|| (sggs 335). The Gurbani does not promote or support ‘Frog-Philosophy’. However, our ‘frog-mind‘ always thinks in terms of cleansing the external body-frame but not the mind: ਜਲ ਕੈ ਮਜਨਿ ਜੇ ਗਤਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਨਿਤ ਨਿਤ ਮੇਂਡੁਕ ਨਾਵਹਿ ॥: If salvation can be obtained by bathing in water, then what about the frog, which is always bathing (always remain in water)? (sggs 484).

Can you quote any pankti from Gurbani where Guru sahib mentions the temperature of water to take bath?? Why is Sikhi getting merged in karan kaands like other Dharams. Hygiene is important rest should depend upon an individual and his environment

Kulath di daal as we call horse gram in punjabi is good for cholestrol but should be consumed in winters mainly as it is 'garam' in taseer n may have side effects. Green moong is better anyday - But the second recipe is awesome. Peanut n banana will clean one's bowels n detoxify the body - but again once a month or fortnight at least. Good one. Thanks!

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I would suggest not to go for fried Namkeens, chips, maida or any of those junk if you have such stressed out routine already. More whole grains, fresh fruits n veggies are rather more recommended ( remember m a certified dietician)

You weren't present then. I only agree to drugs as medicine that's it I totally believe in Naam khumari n believe that Guru k singhs were all avastha waale. Guru himself NEVER EVER HAD OR PROMOTED ANY NASHA The so called historical facts are about the warriors after Guru sahib's time, may be MAharajas or Gorays' soldiers like those of Saragarhi etc

I used to go more for khichadi (with veggies) pulaav n biryaanis if you are good with rice. Or Daliya ( wheat)) sweet or namkeen with to keep it healthy, fast track n easy to make Other such options can be upma, poha, cornflakes. Muesli. Oats etc.

Mann nahi tikda te paathh na karaan?? Paath karo taaki mann tikke. Focus and concentration are the fruits of doing Gurbani n jaap. The Results! You can't have results before you study or appear for exams. Keep karam kaands aside as Guru Nanak Dev ji taught. Your regular one time bath with water suitable to your body and the weather is okay too. Ardas should be a prayer with love - may or may not have specific words. Thoughts does bother each of us, so that's human! Bring your mann back to track everytime you realise it's wandering - all bani of Anand sahib keeps on calling mann - eh mann mereya: eh mann pyareya etc. Mann nu control karna is the ultimate goal n it's not a one day game. It's a lifelong rather lives - long struggle All the best

I only believe that things were and are all white and bright where ever my Guru sahib is present. Thas your version - an addicts' version of sukh. ((Sukhmani sukh amrit PRABH NAAm)) My sukh doesn't depend upon any drugs. A suhagan would only know the sukh of her husband's arms around her waist. You enjoy your nasha. I am all drenched in love n enjoying it. N @paapiman why can't you understand things in one go.. I don't slander you. I still pity you. - poor man has time - is however wasting it in reading n spreading falsehood. - if you had bibek budh to differentiate .... !

I don't agree to watever you post or say. Period. Sikhi is a marg to reach THE ALMIGHTY for me. Your kind of thinking is a rukawat. So

One small question rises in my mind wenever I hear this even in kathas, so i take this opportunity to ask veerji - If we have to close 9 doors to open the 10th then why do they say to do simran with open eyes. ? It's practically almost impossible for me to do simran with open eyes as yet. .. Becomes rarely possible only wen I used to sit in Nanaksar months ago and keep my eyes steady on Guru sahibs saroop but otherwise

Thank you tonns, that clears alot. . Though more insight on prakash and light is seeked by learned ones and Gurmukhs Thank you

M sorry but this is little skeptical if we go by this pankti of Guru Nanak sahib then waheguru has a roop - with beautiful eyes, nose, long hair n golden aura roop. Sorry but I hv a shanka on this.. @Lucky veerji pls clarify if possible. Well on the second thought.. See how children draw sun - see yellow or golden. They also say stars are golden but science term sunlight as white light or natural light - combination of colors... may be it's how one may perceive it . It may depend on many other factors and varies from person to person

U asked a question- didn't wait for me to reply you passed a judgement..still FYI I have won this one here, - now anyone reading this thread would get to know that watever paapiman has posted is not itihas rather mithias as there are so many people opposing it n trying posting the truth... ... So they won't atleast blindly think that sikhs n their Gurus are addicts. Anyone who has little INTELLECT WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE FALSE STORIES POSTED ABOVE AND TRY TO FIND THE TRUTH HIMSELF. All the Books Qouted by Paapiman Are FAKE AND FALSE, altered with an aim to defame sikhi.

Dasam dwaar - nij pad, thhir ghar is no physical gate in human body.... It's a stage in our spiritual journey wen we learn to sit in pure being. as it's very well said by sunnysingh veerji 6 ghar 6 gur 6 updes Gur gur eko ves anek. Baba jai Ghar karte keerat hoye so ghar raakh vadai toye. So, wen asked from Guru Nanak Dev ji- he answered that one should keep his awareness on tenth gate of his body, where there is always a bliss or the praise of Lord going on... (Anhad shabad) - over and above the land of thoughts. - that is thhir Ghar or tenth gate.... Just like there's one sun still many seasons similarly there's One God yet many paths ( karte k kete ves) The paths may be different however the destination is the ultimate truth- the One and only. For sikhs the path is sehaj - naam japna with loads of love for the Guru sahib- to the extent that the Lord is pleased- just like a husband is pleased with his loving n caring wife-..

I would love to veer but it should not slander my Guru Sahib.. If it does violence is a small word

Don't lie you don't mean it- sacchi dassna? . ... I m sure.. and dass really? Have you heard about Banaaras k thug.. Devi devta, riddhi sidh, havan, alchohol ... are you really a sikh? I don't slander you . NOW, I pity you. Waheguru samatt bakhshe

Don't worry my best friend m here and looking at Your social grace now. I didn't want my Guru Sahibs to be insulted and pulled into this. You didn't read n kept on talking about shaheeds and medicine. They weren't the topic of my or @Ragmaala veerjis' larai anyway. So if you really have bibek buddh read those ugly quotes again and then strike back- if you really japp naam you owe atleast this much to yourself. I have no apologies for @paapiman. His jaws might be paining already - posting crap against Sikhs in all these threads kabhi sukha n kabhi alcohol @Ragmaala veerji. Pls let it be. Don't waste your precious energy on this... I only replied after my sangis like @Still nascent and @Ragmaala veerjis have been insulted.. Really don't care if you call me dumb or whatever m anyway mooorakh

Hats off to your thinking veerji.. We all support you.. But you are wasting your energy like I did, . .. Like Kabir ji tried it with his ' Mai. But all her life she kept on - suno jaithhani suno deraani...

Depressed n Guru k singhs?? Never mind. I guess it's high time I can stop making you guys understand my point.. The one who hasn't tasted Amrit rass of love n bhakti can't understand the power of its intoxication and healing.. ... But I would still say one last time that Guru k singhs were in love with the Guru -they weren't paid slaves or soldiers like that of mughals... they won't need any such superficial thing if they have the real thing..- the Amrit (only if you knew the power and how high it can make one! - but aap aapni budh hai jeti- you are considering them ordinary human beings like me n you) I won't be taking this debate further. Don't worry bro @GurjantGnosticMy husband loves me more than you can think of. He's a teetotaller - won't allow me a drop of wine be alone sukha ... Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh!