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    das got a reaction from Shivam Kumar in Please someone guide me!   
    Yes please continue doing meditation with whatsoever technique you're following. Do you see any harm in continuing meditation (exactly the same way you're doing)?
    Your efforts (meditation-without-guru or say without-naam-dhan or initiation, or baptism, or whatever name you prefer) will help you in the following way:
    - To keep away from bad karma/deeds.
    - To clean your mind. You can pour milk in a bowl only if the bowl is clean. So, do meditate, it will help you in direct/indirect way.
    Basically clean yourself internally. And the best thing is to do physical seva in Mandir/Gurdwara or in general of any needy, that would help to clean your older bad karma along with check to your ego. And continue meditation along with that. In other words, seva of humanity and meditation is a good recipe.
    Don't indulge in this-method-vs-that-method or mine-vs-there. That is the game of illusion. e.g if you're dying with thirst and someone offered you water; you don't ask if the person is from this creed or that creed. Meditation is the act of Selfless Love which is possible only with Faith.
    May be search for "Ishwar Puri" in youtube and that might help you on your path.
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    das got a reaction from Lucky in Please someone guide me!   
    Yes please continue doing meditation with whatsoever technique you're following. Do you see any harm in continuing meditation (exactly the same way you're doing)?
    Your efforts (meditation-without-guru or say without-naam-dhan or initiation, or baptism, or whatever name you prefer) will help you in the following way:
    - To keep away from bad karma/deeds.
    - To clean your mind. You can pour milk in a bowl only if the bowl is clean. So, do meditate, it will help you in direct/indirect way.
    Basically clean yourself internally. And the best thing is to do physical seva in Mandir/Gurdwara or in general of any needy, that would help to clean your older bad karma along with check to your ego. And continue meditation along with that. In other words, seva of humanity and meditation is a good recipe.
    Don't indulge in this-method-vs-that-method or mine-vs-there. That is the game of illusion. e.g if you're dying with thirst and someone offered you water; you don't ask if the person is from this creed or that creed. Meditation is the act of Selfless Love which is possible only with Faith.
    May be search for "Ishwar Puri" in youtube and that might help you on your path.
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    das got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Why did the Gurus NOT write the katha/viakya of Guru Granth Sahib Ji?   
    I am NOT suggesting that one needs Dehghari Guru, actually I'm NOT suggesting anything, if you read Guru Granth Sahib Ji (WITHOUT THE history in mind), then it would be quite clear that Guru Ji HIMSELF (Sri Gruru Granth Sahib Ji) is talking about the necessity/need of Sants. Guru Gobind Singh Ji never said that Sants are not required. If a person really takes Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as his/her Guru, then he/she would be more looking for Sat-Sangat (company of the Truth - the ones who has already achieved something). In other words, if you're really a seeker and have taken Amrit to become Guru-Ka-Sikh, then isn't this a duty of student to listen to his/her Guru (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)? These days, our thinking is: Take Amrit, do Paths and then declare that we have Guru and we don't need Sants. It's has become ritual for us and we never bothered to take a deep look into what Guru is saying.
    If a mere darshan of a real Sant can be beneficial (many references in Guru Granth Sahib Ji), then think about what would be achieved if we're able to serve Him? And here I'm talking about REAL Sants and not the ones who are in news for one reason or the other.
    Sant is
    - NOT the one who teach you
    - NOT the one who guide you
    - NOT the one who instructs you
    - NOT the one who gives you the meaning of Scripture(s)
    - NOT the mediator.
    The above mentioned ones could be Kathakars, excellent teachers, very high Spiritual state but NOT the Sants. Even though a Sant could do all the above but that is one of His techniques.
    Sant is
    - THE one who has come from the Dargah (Karak) to take the souls back home.
    - THE one who can produce many other Sants and give them any duty.
    - THE one which gives you an internal experience and then it is upto seeker to develop that.
    - THE one which gives us the Vivek budh using which we can try to see the real cause. i.e then we can look-within. self-introspection.
    e.g Once Arjun (excellent archer) heard about a old Saint who is known to be excellent archer even better than him. At that point of time, arjun already had all the education and training. So, arjun went to see him and requested him to teach him. The Sant said that I don't have anything to TEACH you, YOU already KNOW what is needed for the best archer. The Sant also mentioned that he has not taken the bor/arrow for the last many decades and the Sant asked arjun to go for a bath in river.
    Arjun and the Sant started walking towards a little pond; on the way they had to cross a very wek temporary rope bridge over the 2 mountains. The Sant asked arjun for his bow and arrow as he wanted to check if he remembered everything. The Sant walked on the rope bridge (which was moving side-to-side) and then stopped in the middle of the bridge to take the aim at one of the fruit hanging from the tree in the mountain. He hit the aim. Arjun was astonished at the Sant's feet. The Sant asked the arjun to try the same shot again from the bridge. It took arjun many minutes to just stabilize himself on the moving rope and he shot the arrow so badly that it didn't even hit the tree what to say about the fruit. Now, the Sant mentioned to arjun that arjun does have ALL THE KNOWLEDGE but still lacks the STABLENESS.
    In other words, Sant is The one which provides support to our Soul in this moving maya world. He gives us the spark which holds us stable and we need to develop that stableness further.
    HE cannot be found no matter how hard we try, no matter how hard we think, no matter how hard we do self-introspection, no matter how hard we look within. We cannot find the ONE which was never lost, HE IS here. BUT HE HIMSELF discloses HIMSELF when we've tried our best and eventually have Surrended......... [Karma, Surrender, Vivek]
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    das got a reaction from paapiman in Truths of each level   
    Couple of days back I was just sitting idle and thought to read about near-death experiences and came across this website which have 100s of near-death experiences from which some are quite remarkable. e.g a man coming back to physical body after being buried for 3 days, another man coming back after 7 days of physical death where one of his arm was eaten by worms; yet another man coming back to physical body after 22 days. So, I thought I will just share the website with you guys: http://www.near-death.com
    e.g in one of the near-death experiences, one women asked the following question in the higher realms. I really liked this;
    I wanted to know why there were so many churches in the world. Why didn't God give us only one church, one pure religion? The answer came to me with the purest of understanding. Each of us, I was told, is at a different level of spiritual development and understanding. Each person is therefore prepared for a different level of spiritual knowledge. All religions upon the Earth are necessary because there are people who need what they teach. People in one religion may not have a complete understanding of the Lord's gospel and never will have while in that religion. But that religion is used as a stepping stone to further knowledge. Each church fulfills spiritual needs that perhaps others cannot fill. No one church can fulfill everybody's needs at every level. As an individual raises his level of understanding about God and his own eternal progress, he might feel discontented with the teachings of his present church and seek a different philosophy or religion to fill that void. When this occurs he has reached another level of understanding and will long for further truth and knowledge, and for another opportunity to grow. And at every step of the way, these new opportunities to learn will be given.
     
    The above example could be applied to everything in life.......what we perceive/understood real-teachings or truths at this level may not be whole truth and on the next level we found another real-truth and consider it to be absolute; but then on next level all the learning of previous level seem to be partially accurate and yet on next level we found next-level's-truth and this goes on and on. But all the levels have its own importance and act as the ladder for the next level; hopefully there is one-last-level which is permanent!!
    e.g in Kindergarten we're taught 'A' for 'Apple' but later on we learned that 'A' was just a alphabet and 'Apple' was the symbol so that we can relate to 'A'; then next-level that there exists another language with entirely different alphabets; then on next-level we learn that ohh all the alphabets in all the languages serve the purpose for humans to communicate; but surprise waits us on next level that any language is not important for communication because humans do have the capability to communicate with thoughts; and yet on next level we learn that even thoughts are not important as everything is one and same and therefore we're already constantly communicating and this goes on-and-on....... in other words, for each level, there are certain Truths which we always stick to very religiously until the next level comes!!!
    At last, I'm not writing these things to teach someone or to prove or disapprove anything; I'm writing this because it feels good inside......sometimes just by writing I feel light, relieved, some burden-offloaded.....I don't know. So, sorry about my rant after the website link.
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    das got a reaction from harsharan000 in Is My Parakh Going On ?   
    Hello Sukrit Kaur,
    Please read the following example.

    [ A king wanted to choose best responsible person for his thrown, so he held a meeting with his 3 sons. He ordered his sons to undergo the journey of all religious places within one year and he also gave them 3 horses (one to each) which they had to use for travelling. First son did not start his journey and just fed his horse extremely well and converted his horse into very fat. Second son started his journey and he tried to complete the journey as soon as possible and therefore ignored the health of his horse. He over-use the capacity of his horse and eventually his horse died before completing his journey. Third son was very wise, he calculated that if he travel this much distance each day he would be able to complete his journey on time. This way he travelled pre-planned distance each day and also took care of his horse by giving him proper food and rest. Eventually he completed his journey within the provided time.

    The third son who completed his journey on time by visting all religious places was chosen as next King. The one who did not start his journey was given punishment by the king. Same way, God has given us this body (as horse) so that we can complete our spiritual journey to God within this human birth time. If we did not remember God during our time on earth then we are like the first son and therefore we will be given punishment by Lord of Justice by either throwing us in Hells or giving us birth in lower species. If we act like second son and due to Virag we did hard penance of God without taking care of our body, then we might get another chance (another human birth) by God so that we can continue our journey. We are supposed to act like third son by remembering God and taking care of our body by fulfilling his needs. i.e When we were in mother's womb, everyone (regardless of caste, creed, and religion) promised God that we will do God's worship for at-least 2.5 hours out of 24 hours. This is our main duty that we have to do along with our wordly duties. ]

    So, bottom line is to take care of your body so that it can help you to achieve your Spiritual goal. Believe me, it is not fun to do bhagati in illness. So, enjoy your bhagati while taking care of your body.
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    das got a reaction from mrhsinghk in kaam Lust   
    The root cause is: Previous Karmas
    Solution:
    Pray to God to give you strength to get rid of this thing. Don't request him to stop it, because it is you who needs to work on it. God can work with you but NOT for you. Whenever you get the lust feeling, try NOT to think about it; just start thinking something else. e.g You're standing on the road watching the traffic, you see lot of cars going but you don't start thinking about each car and/or the person sitting inside. Same way, you your mind (road) will always have lot of cars (thoughts), the secret is NOT to entertain the thought and do NOT attach to your thought. Just watch and let it go; just like the same way we just watch the cars and don't get attached to what we saw.
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    das got a reaction from paapiman in kaam Lust   
    The root cause is: Previous Karmas
    Solution:
    Pray to God to give you strength to get rid of this thing. Don't request him to stop it, because it is you who needs to work on it. God can work with you but NOT for you. Whenever you get the lust feeling, try NOT to think about it; just start thinking something else. e.g You're standing on the road watching the traffic, you see lot of cars going but you don't start thinking about each car and/or the person sitting inside. Same way, you your mind (road) will always have lot of cars (thoughts), the secret is NOT to entertain the thought and do NOT attach to your thought. Just watch and let it go; just like the same way we just watch the cars and don't get attached to what we saw.
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    das got a reaction from Jageera in Ajaapa / Simran Saas Gras   
    You cannot beat the mind; best way is to work along with him. Controlling the mind does not mean stopping the thought process. Control of the mind means using it properly, and knowing the method of using the forces of the mind. It is necessary that we learn to observe, understand, and train the functions of mind at the various levels of consciousness.
    Techniques to make Mind one-pointed
    Do not try to stop Mind from thinking something. Do not play wrestling with your mind. Just try to see what kind of thoughts mind is thinking and where it is going. Do not give Mind the permission to run, but do not stop it from going there - instead give it full control by saying "Mind if you want to go there, you can go; but I am not coming with you.". After some time, the Mind will become steady and would not run. This is the most commonly used technique.

    During meditation build your determination, and tell your mind, “At this time my mind is only for meditation. I have to meditate and learn to go beyond this mire of delusion and confusion created by my mind. I am not going to identify with the thought patterns going on in my mind. No matter what happens during these moments I will be not disturbed, no matter what happens. Let my preoccupations come forward later. I do not want to be disturbed.” This way, we will build our sankalpa shakti. Sankalpa shakti (determination).
      This technique for those who has somewhat better control on their bhuddhi. In this technique, student divides his mind into 2 parts: One the owner, and other the servant. Being the owner of Mind, it instructs the other part (servant) not to run and eventually Mind gets trained.
      This technique is for advanced. Under this technique sit down for dhana and stop thinking. Empty your whole mind and watch from where the thoughts are coming. You will notice that thoughts come from outside. Throw these thoughts before entering the mind and destroy the thought. It would be interesting to know the Mind in terms of Bird. Mind is a bird. Greed and Honor are its 2 wings; Attachment and Hatred are its mouth (chuanj) and it resides on tree named as body. Good (Shubh) and Bad (Ashubh) are its food. The technique to control this mind in terms of Bird: Prepare a cage of Vichar and put this mind inside this cage. (i.e always think about what is not-changable). Cut the wings of greed by using scisor of Veerag and Santokh. Give him the food of rememberance of Atama.
     
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    das got a reaction from ragnarok in Ajaapa / Simran Saas Gras   
    You cannot beat the mind; best way is to work along with him. Controlling the mind does not mean stopping the thought process. Control of the mind means using it properly, and knowing the method of using the forces of the mind. It is necessary that we learn to observe, understand, and train the functions of mind at the various levels of consciousness.
    Techniques to make Mind one-pointed
    Do not try to stop Mind from thinking something. Do not play wrestling with your mind. Just try to see what kind of thoughts mind is thinking and where it is going. Do not give Mind the permission to run, but do not stop it from going there - instead give it full control by saying "Mind if you want to go there, you can go; but I am not coming with you.". After some time, the Mind will become steady and would not run. This is the most commonly used technique.

    During meditation build your determination, and tell your mind, “At this time my mind is only for meditation. I have to meditate and learn to go beyond this mire of delusion and confusion created by my mind. I am not going to identify with the thought patterns going on in my mind. No matter what happens during these moments I will be not disturbed, no matter what happens. Let my preoccupations come forward later. I do not want to be disturbed.” This way, we will build our sankalpa shakti. Sankalpa shakti (determination).
      This technique for those who has somewhat better control on their bhuddhi. In this technique, student divides his mind into 2 parts: One the owner, and other the servant. Being the owner of Mind, it instructs the other part (servant) not to run and eventually Mind gets trained.
      This technique is for advanced. Under this technique sit down for dhana and stop thinking. Empty your whole mind and watch from where the thoughts are coming. You will notice that thoughts come from outside. Throw these thoughts before entering the mind and destroy the thought. It would be interesting to know the Mind in terms of Bird. Mind is a bird. Greed and Honor are its 2 wings; Attachment and Hatred are its mouth (chuanj) and it resides on tree named as body. Good (Shubh) and Bad (Ashubh) are its food. The technique to control this mind in terms of Bird: Prepare a cage of Vichar and put this mind inside this cage. (i.e always think about what is not-changable). Cut the wings of greed by using scisor of Veerag and Santokh. Give him the food of rememberance of Atama.
     
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    das got a reaction from ipledgeblue in Husband Wife Jokes - I Love These   
    A teacher asks a student: Why Hindu Law does not permit Second Marriage?
    The bright student answers: Because as per Indian Constitution Article 20(2) - "No person can be punished twice for the same offence".
     
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    das got a reaction from Lucky in Nitnem - Who compiled it?   
    I don't remember the source, but I've read/heard somewhere that Bhai Mani Singh Ji actually separated/broken-into-words the Guru sahib i.e originally it was Larivaar saroop (continuous words without any break), and he wrote a saroop with separate words for easier understanding.
    Now, I don't know if this story is right or wrong; but this is what I've heard.
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    das got a reaction from sarabatam in Mind Control   
    What you've said is ultimate reality but that kind of vision is possible ONLY when one has already won the war on Maya and have removed all the veils of Illusion (Mal/Vikshape/Avaran). This stage is called Gyan and comes only after the "Purity of Mind" and "Upsana of Guru". Till Gyan stage is not reached, all of what you've said is purely theory and Mind canNOT be controlled that way. Give it a try and you'll see. What we're doing is pretending/faking this theory by thinking (mind is already involved in thinking).
    These days majority of Sikhs (and other religions) have gone astray and is following the black-and-white theory, e.g Sikhs claims
    We believe in Nirgun and worship Nirgun only. Problem is we don't know the Nirgun, and if Nirgun is not known, then how to worship him? Just concentrate on Shabad and no need to put dhayan on any sakar/physical thing. They don't even acknolwdge the concentration on Sri Guru Granth sahib Ji, even though we all bow to GuruJi. It's saying like I want to hang the clothes on the wall but don't want to put a nail on wall to hold the clothes. i.e we need something to put the dhayan on, in the later stages, that dhayan will be switched to Nirgun but that stage is very far. We see God in all etc., but then we go to Gurdwara to judge the kathakars/kirtinas. The problem is we fail to understand the reality behind the core concepts and just take the facts on face-value. Most people in every religion (ours included i.e Sikhs) believes in Boxed God (God in a box which satisfies certain pre-conceived notions). May be its the way Kalyug works, otherwise there will be Peace, Calm, and Love everywhere!
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    das got a reaction from Kaur Inder in Ajaapa / Simran Saas Gras   
    You cannot beat the mind; best way is to work along with him. Controlling the mind does not mean stopping the thought process. Control of the mind means using it properly, and knowing the method of using the forces of the mind. It is necessary that we learn to observe, understand, and train the functions of mind at the various levels of consciousness.
    Techniques to make Mind one-pointed
    Do not try to stop Mind from thinking something. Do not play wrestling with your mind. Just try to see what kind of thoughts mind is thinking and where it is going. Do not give Mind the permission to run, but do not stop it from going there - instead give it full control by saying "Mind if you want to go there, you can go; but I am not coming with you.". After some time, the Mind will become steady and would not run. This is the most commonly used technique.

    During meditation build your determination, and tell your mind, “At this time my mind is only for meditation. I have to meditate and learn to go beyond this mire of delusion and confusion created by my mind. I am not going to identify with the thought patterns going on in my mind. No matter what happens during these moments I will be not disturbed, no matter what happens. Let my preoccupations come forward later. I do not want to be disturbed.” This way, we will build our sankalpa shakti. Sankalpa shakti (determination).
      This technique for those who has somewhat better control on their bhuddhi. In this technique, student divides his mind into 2 parts: One the owner, and other the servant. Being the owner of Mind, it instructs the other part (servant) not to run and eventually Mind gets trained.
      This technique is for advanced. Under this technique sit down for dhana and stop thinking. Empty your whole mind and watch from where the thoughts are coming. You will notice that thoughts come from outside. Throw these thoughts before entering the mind and destroy the thought. It would be interesting to know the Mind in terms of Bird. Mind is a bird. Greed and Honor are its 2 wings; Attachment and Hatred are its mouth (chuanj) and it resides on tree named as body. Good (Shubh) and Bad (Ashubh) are its food. The technique to control this mind in terms of Bird: Prepare a cage of Vichar and put this mind inside this cage. (i.e always think about what is not-changable). Cut the wings of greed by using scisor of Veerag and Santokh. Give him the food of rememberance of Atama.
     
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    das got a reaction from tva prasad in Mind Control   
    What you've said is ultimate reality but that kind of vision is possible ONLY when one has already won the war on Maya and have removed all the veils of Illusion (Mal/Vikshape/Avaran). This stage is called Gyan and comes only after the "Purity of Mind" and "Upsana of Guru". Till Gyan stage is not reached, all of what you've said is purely theory and Mind canNOT be controlled that way. Give it a try and you'll see. What we're doing is pretending/faking this theory by thinking (mind is already involved in thinking).
    These days majority of Sikhs (and other religions) have gone astray and is following the black-and-white theory, e.g Sikhs claims
    We believe in Nirgun and worship Nirgun only. Problem is we don't know the Nirgun, and if Nirgun is not known, then how to worship him? Just concentrate on Shabad and no need to put dhayan on any sakar/physical thing. They don't even acknolwdge the concentration on Sri Guru Granth sahib Ji, even though we all bow to GuruJi. It's saying like I want to hang the clothes on the wall but don't want to put a nail on wall to hold the clothes. i.e we need something to put the dhayan on, in the later stages, that dhayan will be switched to Nirgun but that stage is very far. We see God in all etc., but then we go to Gurdwara to judge the kathakars/kirtinas. The problem is we fail to understand the reality behind the core concepts and just take the facts on face-value. Most people in every religion (ours included i.e Sikhs) believes in Boxed God (God in a box which satisfies certain pre-conceived notions). May be its the way Kalyug works, otherwise there will be Peace, Calm, and Love everywhere!
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    das reacted to paapiman in Avoid Disclosing Spiritual Status   
    Srimaan 108 Sant Baba Nand Singh jee Kaleranwale's bachan (something like this) - The seed which remains exposed is never able to sprout, while the one which stays hidden in soil, can become a huge tree.
    It implies - The more secret/hidden one keeps his spiritual state, the more progression one will make.
    Having said the above, intention and the situation can come into play too. Suppose, there is a person, who is about to start disbelieving in Satguru jee, while you are having spiritual experiences. In this situation, one should reveal his experiences to assist that person in reaffirming his faith in the Almighty Lord.
    Intention is the key - boosting ego or committing welfare?
     
    Bhul chuk maaf
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    das got a reaction from Xylitol in Mind Control   
    What you've said is ultimate reality but that kind of vision is possible ONLY when one has already won the war on Maya and have removed all the veils of Illusion (Mal/Vikshape/Avaran). This stage is called Gyan and comes only after the "Purity of Mind" and "Upsana of Guru". Till Gyan stage is not reached, all of what you've said is purely theory and Mind canNOT be controlled that way. Give it a try and you'll see. What we're doing is pretending/faking this theory by thinking (mind is already involved in thinking).
    These days majority of Sikhs (and other religions) have gone astray and is following the black-and-white theory, e.g Sikhs claims
    We believe in Nirgun and worship Nirgun only. Problem is we don't know the Nirgun, and if Nirgun is not known, then how to worship him? Just concentrate on Shabad and no need to put dhayan on any sakar/physical thing. They don't even acknolwdge the concentration on Sri Guru Granth sahib Ji, even though we all bow to GuruJi. It's saying like I want to hang the clothes on the wall but don't want to put a nail on wall to hold the clothes. i.e we need something to put the dhayan on, in the later stages, that dhayan will be switched to Nirgun but that stage is very far. We see God in all etc., but then we go to Gurdwara to judge the kathakars/kirtinas. The problem is we fail to understand the reality behind the core concepts and just take the facts on face-value. Most people in every religion (ours included i.e Sikhs) believes in Boxed God (God in a box which satisfies certain pre-conceived notions). May be its the way Kalyug works, otherwise there will be Peace, Calm, and Love everywhere!
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    das got a reaction from Xylitol in Ajaapa / Simran Saas Gras   
    You cannot beat the mind; best way is to work along with him. Controlling the mind does not mean stopping the thought process. Control of the mind means using it properly, and knowing the method of using the forces of the mind. It is necessary that we learn to observe, understand, and train the functions of mind at the various levels of consciousness.
    Techniques to make Mind one-pointed
    Do not try to stop Mind from thinking something. Do not play wrestling with your mind. Just try to see what kind of thoughts mind is thinking and where it is going. Do not give Mind the permission to run, but do not stop it from going there - instead give it full control by saying "Mind if you want to go there, you can go; but I am not coming with you.". After some time, the Mind will become steady and would not run. This is the most commonly used technique.

    During meditation build your determination, and tell your mind, “At this time my mind is only for meditation. I have to meditate and learn to go beyond this mire of delusion and confusion created by my mind. I am not going to identify with the thought patterns going on in my mind. No matter what happens during these moments I will be not disturbed, no matter what happens. Let my preoccupations come forward later. I do not want to be disturbed.” This way, we will build our sankalpa shakti. Sankalpa shakti (determination).
      This technique for those who has somewhat better control on their bhuddhi. In this technique, student divides his mind into 2 parts: One the owner, and other the servant. Being the owner of Mind, it instructs the other part (servant) not to run and eventually Mind gets trained.
      This technique is for advanced. Under this technique sit down for dhana and stop thinking. Empty your whole mind and watch from where the thoughts are coming. You will notice that thoughts come from outside. Throw these thoughts before entering the mind and destroy the thought. It would be interesting to know the Mind in terms of Bird. Mind is a bird. Greed and Honor are its 2 wings; Attachment and Hatred are its mouth (chuanj) and it resides on tree named as body. Good (Shubh) and Bad (Ashubh) are its food. The technique to control this mind in terms of Bird: Prepare a cage of Vichar and put this mind inside this cage. (i.e always think about what is not-changable). Cut the wings of greed by using scisor of Veerag and Santokh. Give him the food of rememberance of Atama.
     
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    das got a reaction from jaikaara in Mind Control   
    What you've said is ultimate reality but that kind of vision is possible ONLY when one has already won the war on Maya and have removed all the veils of Illusion (Mal/Vikshape/Avaran). This stage is called Gyan and comes only after the "Purity of Mind" and "Upsana of Guru". Till Gyan stage is not reached, all of what you've said is purely theory and Mind canNOT be controlled that way. Give it a try and you'll see. What we're doing is pretending/faking this theory by thinking (mind is already involved in thinking).
    These days majority of Sikhs (and other religions) have gone astray and is following the black-and-white theory, e.g Sikhs claims
    We believe in Nirgun and worship Nirgun only. Problem is we don't know the Nirgun, and if Nirgun is not known, then how to worship him? Just concentrate on Shabad and no need to put dhayan on any sakar/physical thing. They don't even acknolwdge the concentration on Sri Guru Granth sahib Ji, even though we all bow to GuruJi. It's saying like I want to hang the clothes on the wall but don't want to put a nail on wall to hold the clothes. i.e we need something to put the dhayan on, in the later stages, that dhayan will be switched to Nirgun but that stage is very far. We see God in all etc., but then we go to Gurdwara to judge the kathakars/kirtinas. The problem is we fail to understand the reality behind the core concepts and just take the facts on face-value. Most people in every religion (ours included i.e Sikhs) believes in Boxed God (God in a box which satisfies certain pre-conceived notions). May be its the way Kalyug works, otherwise there will be Peace, Calm, and Love everywhere!
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    das got a reaction from paapiman in Ajaapa / Simran Saas Gras   
    You cannot beat the mind; best way is to work along with him. Controlling the mind does not mean stopping the thought process. Control of the mind means using it properly, and knowing the method of using the forces of the mind. It is necessary that we learn to observe, understand, and train the functions of mind at the various levels of consciousness.
    Techniques to make Mind one-pointed
    Do not try to stop Mind from thinking something. Do not play wrestling with your mind. Just try to see what kind of thoughts mind is thinking and where it is going. Do not give Mind the permission to run, but do not stop it from going there - instead give it full control by saying "Mind if you want to go there, you can go; but I am not coming with you.". After some time, the Mind will become steady and would not run. This is the most commonly used technique.

    During meditation build your determination, and tell your mind, “At this time my mind is only for meditation. I have to meditate and learn to go beyond this mire of delusion and confusion created by my mind. I am not going to identify with the thought patterns going on in my mind. No matter what happens during these moments I will be not disturbed, no matter what happens. Let my preoccupations come forward later. I do not want to be disturbed.” This way, we will build our sankalpa shakti. Sankalpa shakti (determination).
      This technique for those who has somewhat better control on their bhuddhi. In this technique, student divides his mind into 2 parts: One the owner, and other the servant. Being the owner of Mind, it instructs the other part (servant) not to run and eventually Mind gets trained.
      This technique is for advanced. Under this technique sit down for dhana and stop thinking. Empty your whole mind and watch from where the thoughts are coming. You will notice that thoughts come from outside. Throw these thoughts before entering the mind and destroy the thought. It would be interesting to know the Mind in terms of Bird. Mind is a bird. Greed and Honor are its 2 wings; Attachment and Hatred are its mouth (chuanj) and it resides on tree named as body. Good (Shubh) and Bad (Ashubh) are its food. The technique to control this mind in terms of Bird: Prepare a cage of Vichar and put this mind inside this cage. (i.e always think about what is not-changable). Cut the wings of greed by using scisor of Veerag and Santokh. Give him the food of rememberance of Atama.
     
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    das got a reaction from tva prasad in Ajaapa / Simran Saas Gras   
    You cannot beat the mind; best way is to work along with him. Controlling the mind does not mean stopping the thought process. Control of the mind means using it properly, and knowing the method of using the forces of the mind. It is necessary that we learn to observe, understand, and train the functions of mind at the various levels of consciousness.
    Techniques to make Mind one-pointed
    Do not try to stop Mind from thinking something. Do not play wrestling with your mind. Just try to see what kind of thoughts mind is thinking and where it is going. Do not give Mind the permission to run, but do not stop it from going there - instead give it full control by saying "Mind if you want to go there, you can go; but I am not coming with you.". After some time, the Mind will become steady and would not run. This is the most commonly used technique.

    During meditation build your determination, and tell your mind, “At this time my mind is only for meditation. I have to meditate and learn to go beyond this mire of delusion and confusion created by my mind. I am not going to identify with the thought patterns going on in my mind. No matter what happens during these moments I will be not disturbed, no matter what happens. Let my preoccupations come forward later. I do not want to be disturbed.” This way, we will build our sankalpa shakti. Sankalpa shakti (determination).
      This technique for those who has somewhat better control on their bhuddhi. In this technique, student divides his mind into 2 parts: One the owner, and other the servant. Being the owner of Mind, it instructs the other part (servant) not to run and eventually Mind gets trained.
      This technique is for advanced. Under this technique sit down for dhana and stop thinking. Empty your whole mind and watch from where the thoughts are coming. You will notice that thoughts come from outside. Throw these thoughts before entering the mind and destroy the thought. It would be interesting to know the Mind in terms of Bird. Mind is a bird. Greed and Honor are its 2 wings; Attachment and Hatred are its mouth (chuanj) and it resides on tree named as body. Good (Shubh) and Bad (Ashubh) are its food. The technique to control this mind in terms of Bird: Prepare a cage of Vichar and put this mind inside this cage. (i.e always think about what is not-changable). Cut the wings of greed by using scisor of Veerag and Santokh. Give him the food of rememberance of Atama.
     
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    das got a reaction from jaikaara in Ajaapa / Simran Saas Gras   
    You cannot beat the mind; best way is to work along with him. Controlling the mind does not mean stopping the thought process. Control of the mind means using it properly, and knowing the method of using the forces of the mind. It is necessary that we learn to observe, understand, and train the functions of mind at the various levels of consciousness.
    Techniques to make Mind one-pointed
    Do not try to stop Mind from thinking something. Do not play wrestling with your mind. Just try to see what kind of thoughts mind is thinking and where it is going. Do not give Mind the permission to run, but do not stop it from going there - instead give it full control by saying "Mind if you want to go there, you can go; but I am not coming with you.". After some time, the Mind will become steady and would not run. This is the most commonly used technique.

    During meditation build your determination, and tell your mind, “At this time my mind is only for meditation. I have to meditate and learn to go beyond this mire of delusion and confusion created by my mind. I am not going to identify with the thought patterns going on in my mind. No matter what happens during these moments I will be not disturbed, no matter what happens. Let my preoccupations come forward later. I do not want to be disturbed.” This way, we will build our sankalpa shakti. Sankalpa shakti (determination).
      This technique for those who has somewhat better control on their bhuddhi. In this technique, student divides his mind into 2 parts: One the owner, and other the servant. Being the owner of Mind, it instructs the other part (servant) not to run and eventually Mind gets trained.
      This technique is for advanced. Under this technique sit down for dhana and stop thinking. Empty your whole mind and watch from where the thoughts are coming. You will notice that thoughts come from outside. Throw these thoughts before entering the mind and destroy the thought. It would be interesting to know the Mind in terms of Bird. Mind is a bird. Greed and Honor are its 2 wings; Attachment and Hatred are its mouth (chuanj) and it resides on tree named as body. Good (Shubh) and Bad (Ashubh) are its food. The technique to control this mind in terms of Bird: Prepare a cage of Vichar and put this mind inside this cage. (i.e always think about what is not-changable). Cut the wings of greed by using scisor of Veerag and Santokh. Give him the food of rememberance of Atama.
     
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    das got a reaction from ssinghuk3 in Does attainment of Naam Daan ensure the path to moksha?   
    As both Lucky and Sat have already mentioned that you cannot take a backseat after getting the naam.
    * Guru can give you the spark, but it is YOU who needs to work on that. There's no way around it.
    * There is a big possibility that you could go astray but Guru is there to contain that and may bring you back on path if you've karma is good enough. Or through Kirpa.
    * Your faith WILL be tested by environments/circumstances, so be prepared for it.
    FAITH should be like this; only then you can succeed:
    Let's say, I'm going to jump from a mountain without any fear; because I know that only 2 things can happen:
    * Either Guru will place his hand under feet and won't let me suffer; or
    * Or He will give me wings and I could fly.
    There is NO 3rd option.
    From my personal experience, one can attempt the above but some times, the circumstances are such that you question; and that's the time, you loose. But Guru is great, as he won't leave you alone.
    Now, above is the example and in no-way asking anyone to try jumping from mountain.
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    Many Saints have mentioned that Faith is more important than the Puran Guru. Puran Guru cannot do anything, if the student doesn't believe Him.
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    das got a reaction from Pardeep01 in Does attainment of Naam Daan ensure the path to moksha?   
    As both Lucky and Sat have already mentioned that you cannot take a backseat after getting the naam.
    * Guru can give you the spark, but it is YOU who needs to work on that. There's no way around it.
    * There is a big possibility that you could go astray but Guru is there to contain that and may bring you back on path if you've karma is good enough. Or through Kirpa.
    * Your faith WILL be tested by environments/circumstances, so be prepared for it.
    FAITH should be like this; only then you can succeed:
    Let's say, I'm going to jump from a mountain without any fear; because I know that only 2 things can happen:
    * Either Guru will place his hand under feet and won't let me suffer; or
    * Or He will give me wings and I could fly.
    There is NO 3rd option.
    From my personal experience, one can attempt the above but some times, the circumstances are such that you question; and that's the time, you loose. But Guru is great, as he won't leave you alone.
    Now, above is the example and in no-way asking anyone to try jumping from mountain.
    ----------------
    Many Saints have mentioned that Faith is more important than the Puran Guru. Puran Guru cannot do anything, if the student doesn't believe Him.
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    das reacted to Sat1176 in Confused about Kundalini /Rom Rom   
    Someone out there is trying to cause friction with this video between him and other groups. First of all why was AKJ shown doing naam simran at the beginning? Do AKJ teach applying pressure on the navel during naam abhiyaas? 
    Anyway leaving that point aside, I don't agree with what he is saying. I have heard a number of mahapursh teach this technique and the first time was years ago, in the audio simran instruction recording of Sant Baba Isher Singh (Rare Wale). He clearly stated in that, when one applies pressure on the navel you will eventually begin to feel the pulse behind it. When simran is synchronized with that pulse and dhyaan is placed there it would lead to manifestation of Rom Rom simran. He said Bakhari was done at the mouth, Madhma in Khant, Pasanti in the heart and Para at the navel. Maskeen ji also wrote about this in the book Prabhu Simran.
    I also recall reading in the instructions given by Sant Baba Waryam Singh that one should not progress to the trikuti until you see the planets and starts at the navel and one hears the anhad shabad.
    Secondly in Sidh Gosht (Ang 945), Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji says the following to the Siddhas:
    ih man maigal kahaa basee-alay kahaa basai ih pavnaa.
    "Where does this mind-elephant live? Where does the breath reside?
    kahaa basai so sabad a-oDhoo taa ka-o chookai man kaa bhavnaa.
    Where should the Shabad reside, so that the wanderings of the mind may cease?"
    nadar karay taa satgur maylay taa nij ghar vaasaa ih man paa-ay.
    When the Lord blesses one with His Glance of Grace, he leads him to the True Guru. Then, this mind dwells in its own home within.
    aapai aap khaa-ay taa nirmal hovai Dhaavat varaj rahaa-ay.
    When the individual consumes his egotism, he becomes immaculate, and his wandering mind is restrained.
    ki-o mool pachhaanai aatam jaanai ki-o sas ghar soor samaavai.
    "How can the root, the source of all be realized? How can the soul know itself? How can the sun enter into the house of the moon?"
    gurmukh ha-umai vichahu khovai ta-o naanak sahj samaavai. ||64||
    The Gurmukh eliminates egotism from within; then, O Nanak, the sun naturally enters into the home of the moon. ||64||
    ih man nihchal hirdai vasee-alay gurmukh mool pachhaan rahai.
    When the mind becomes steady and stable, it abides in the heart, and then the Gurmukh realizes the root, the source of all.
    naabh pavan ghar aasan baisai gurmukh khojat tat lahai.
    The breath is seated in the home of the navel; the Gurmukh searches, and finds the essence of reality.
    so sabad nirantar nij ghar aachhai taribhavan jot so sabad lahai.
    This Shabad permeates the nucleus of the self, deep within, in its own home; the Light of this Shabad pervades the three worlds.
     
    On Ang 223 there is references to Baramh Agan by Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji. This Baramh Agan is generated when one does intense jaap in a speedy manor. But if one doesn't know how to control this inner heat it can cause problems, slow best to stick to a slow steady pace unless under guidance of an experienced abhyaasi.
     
    nirbha-o jogee niranjan Dhi-aavai.
    The Yogis meditate on the Fearless, Immaculate Lord.
    an-din jaagai sach liv laavai.
    Night and day, they remain awake and aware, embracing love for the True Lord.
    so jogee mayrai man bhaavai. ||2||
    Those Yogis are pleasing to my mind. ||2||
    kaal jaal barahm agnee jaaray.
    The trap of death is burnt by the Fire of God.
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    das got a reaction from Bhoolea bhatkea in God Residing in the Mind (mann)   
    I don't think anyone can "have god reside in your mind"; because He is already there but we cannot find Him. e.g Butter is hidden in the milk but becomes visible only when someone does follow the process of churning.
    Same way God is there, it's just a matter of:
    * Finding reasons Why we cannot find him?
     - Because we're finding Him in the wrong place.
     - and our Mind does have faults.
    * And once we're aware of those, we just need to follow the process of removing those veils.
    Sat has already explained what really means by "Raab da mann wich vasna a.k.a Raab nu labh lena", but it comes with KIRPA.
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