dhan96Crore

No problem Valli Singh, He mentioned baba Vadbhag Singh in his glorious Panth Parkash Katha, which is available to download on the net, i cant remember which file it exactly was but it was before the 50th one as I have not gone past 50 yet. I have read the janam sakhi of baba Vadbhag Singh ji's life, a very good read i must say. Dhan Khalsa Panth.

Adding to what valli singh said about baba Vadbhag Singh, he was a pooran mahapursh blessed with a certain duty within the khalsa panth. As baba Santa Singh also said that baba Vadbhag Singh was a full shastardhari, tyaar bar tyaar Singh Soorma, including carrying various shastar with him and chakars on his dastaar etc. Now his followers well thats a different story, but lets make no mistake baba Vadbhag Singh was a mahapursh and tyaar bar tyaar Singh. When baba ji with the Khalsa were fighting the malesh in the afghans, he really drove them back towards where they came from. The malesh did beadbi of a Gurdwara Sahib by burning it down, baba ji found out and took the dal with him where he defeated the malesh, then he found the ones who did the beadbi, the Khalsa then asked baba ji: 'what should be done to these paapis?' baba ji replied 'exactly the same should be done to them of what they did to the darbaar sahib'. Baba ji gave the hukum to the singh's to set them on fire while they were alive, badla was taken. Dhan Khalsa Panth.

Fantastic, a very good site, once it is fully updated with all the articles the site will be great for the Panth. Listen to Jathedar Baba Maan Singh (Guru Nanak Dal) his kirtan is amazing. Baba Mehtab Singh's Gurbani Ucharan are amazing.

Also you state in your article that Shaheed Baba Avtaar Singh Brahma used to practice jhatka, i did not know that, was baba ji firm in his dal panth maryada beliefs?

Baba Kharag Singh is this the same one that was involved in the freedom struggle for Khalistan in the 80's? Sounds like a soorma if its the one i think he is ive seen a few pictures of him, Kamelroop Singh can you put some chanana on his jeevan? Degh Tegh Fateh

Kamalroop Singh has started a morcha not against the AKJ ONLY, but the followers of this jatha to be more specific. Alot of what you say is true , most of it is some of your views i do not agree with, but alot of what you say had to be said against these followers of this jatha, in order to stop false teaching a front has to be created.

Baba Bidhi Chand was a general , pure war genious.

Vali Singh well done fantastic seva but can you put up the full history of the jathedars of the bidhi chand dal please if possible? or can you direct me to any books pothis available on their history as would like to read about the jeevans of the great sant siphais of this dal. If possible can you put up more history about baba Sohan Singh Ji, i know some sakhis about himm he was a true pooran Brahmgiani.

lol mithar Look its simple pita ji gave him hukam not to marry because he wanted to , simple as that, why? JUNG JUNG JUNG ONLY! Thats it, simple as that just because maharaj gave him that hukum doesn't mean he was againt gristi life, baba banda singh had alot of work to do in punjab , im talking alot, plus baba banda singh was roughley the same age as maharaj 40-42 abouts when pita ji blessed him in nanded, then maharaj sent him on his mission to kill the malesh. Im talking not just about sirhind but how he raided all of panjab and beyond, sorted out the zimidari system of panjab with the internal politics of that time that the malesh were running on etc. Look this issue with baba ji getting married and so on, so fourth does not matter, theres no deep consipricey to it if you accept this then fine, if not life go's on and you can keep questioning minor issues.

who cares where it came from lets just all do simran

uumm not really i think you will find that Baba Binaud Singh and Baba Kahn Singh fell out with Baba Banda Singh Bahadur than more than just 'battle tactics' lol. It all started when baba banda singh got married the first time, then second etc, over jhatka, then when baba banda singh got hankaar and started bandai khalsa leading to the split between tat khalsa and bandai. Please dont believe me just read all the puratan granths suraj parkash, panth parkash too get all the details. lol again read puratan granths to find out panth khalsa full detailed history, budhal dal go's back to Baba Budha Ji in the 6th Gurus time.

lolololololol - this view is totally wrong!!! The reasons why maharaj told him not to get married into gristi life is simple - maharaj wanted baba ji to concentrate only on JUNG, NOTHING ELSE!!! maharaj knew that if he got married he would start to forget about his purpose for his mission, which was JUNG JUNG JUNG. Many past jathedars of the panth did not get married, they did sole seva for the panth e.g Baba Deep Singh, Akali Baba Phula Singh etc. Redarding the hukumnama maharaj sent him it was basically a reminder to Baba Banda Singh Bahadur of what maharaj already told him, that as long as you do what i have told you to do you will have Fateh, when these orders are not followed then you will fall. e.g. this happened when Baba Banda Singh Bahadur split from Tat Khalsa after falling out with the then Budha Dal jathedar Baba Binaud Singh. --- then leading to 96 Crode Khalsa not helping Baba ji in Jung ultimetley leading to his capture and giving shaheedi. Yes Dasam Pita got married 3 times but that doesn't mean that Baba Banda Singh could , or me you or anyone else. That was maharaj and no one should ever try and bring on that view that whatever maharaj did we can do, or he could do because that is beadbi. Baba Banda Singh Bahadur did great things for the Khalsa Panth and his achievements should be looked at rather than the errors he made, at the end of the day he fought great jungs and destroyed everyone in sirhind that never raised a voice at the treatment the sahibzade were given, he gave shaheedi for the Khalsa Panth alongside many great things he did for Panjab. Dhan Shaheed Baba Banda Singh Bahadur.

i personally think that karni nama and naseehat nama are defintley banis written by maharaj, the only way to understand these are by reading them in Gurmukhi, rather then the english, as this gives a much better understanding of banis such as these. PLus Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranvale also stated karni nama was actually the said bachan of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj.

Akaal Ustat is amazing, its so deep but then so powerful, lets all read it as much as possible dhan dasam pita.

javanmard my pet pig called porky talks more sense than you do, youre pathetic and its very clear. KUSHIAN DE JAKAREY GAJAVE NIHAAAL HO JAVE JERA JAVANMARD NU SHITAR MAREY, MUUU VICH SOOR PAVE NIHAAAL HO JAVE SATSRIAKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

javanmard is full of bollucks, its just stinks so bad now, i mean its a clear fact in islamic history that: 1)Aisha got married to mohammed at the age of 9, after being engaged to him at the age of 6, if i remember clearly the age of mohammed at that time was in his late 50's, early 60's. Basically a 60 year old man got married to a 9 year old. Also mohammed got married at least 11 times if not 12, 9 times? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL The above is no insult but fact, you know it everyone knows it, i dont give 2 fucks if you think its an insult because youre a pillock anyway. 2)Gabrial had to deliver the quran to mohammed, which means he did not receive it directly from Akaal, gabrial was the middle man between Akaal and mohammed, where in Sikhi Bani has come directly to the Gurus from Vaheguruu which shows the Gurus were one with Vaheguruu. 3)javanamard has truly lost it, he has not and i doubt if he will understand who Guru Gobind Singh Ji is. And im sorry to burst your little bubble you live in, but the prophets you speak of, mohammed, jesus, gabrial, moses, noa, ali etc etc etc are just that and nothing more. THE GURUS ARE AVATAARS OF VAHEGURU DHAN AKAAL PURKH VAHEGURU DHAN GURU GOBIND SINGH JI MAHARAJ DHAN SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ DHAN SRI GURU DASAM GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ DHAN SRI GURU SARBLOH GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ DHAN MATA SAHIB KAUR JI , THE MOTHER OF THE KHALSA PANTH.

How many times did mohammed get married? What was the age of his youngest wife aisha? and how old was mohammed when he got married to her? Why did mohammed get married to a minor? 'The gurus were manifestations of ali' , javanmard you really have lost it, the Gurus were avataars of Vaheguru, what dont you understand? javanmard your islamic views have caused you to question the Gurus, its a sad shame. And by the way if you want to start playing the tit for tat game, im ready as there is plenty to go by to counter everything you say.

'sharia as javanmard has so openly stated before is a lower school of religion, here after Pehla Patshah sharia is an ineffective method to live ones life ' Thats correct, well stated Kharag Singh.

'Well I am sure that Nabi 'Isa (as), the Spirit of God (Ruhollah) is honoured by your statement... ' What are you going on about i'll say it again Isa was a good man! These prophets are respected by the Khalsa but thats all that they are, they are nothing compared to our Gurus because it is the Gurus who are One with Vaheguruu, it is our Gurus who are avataars of Vaheguruu, as it is maharaj that has the keys to Sachkand. It was a while back when i saw footage of them, basically from the footage they were told to be monks, but this just could be the video man getting it wrong because it could have also have been the greek/russian priests you speak of, i remember though that they were a small sect, i think based in isreal jeruselum but dont quote me as it was ages ago i saw this footage, but i will still try and find a reference about them.

Isa was a good man, but its a shame that the christians do not follow what he wanted them to actually follow. I mean everyone knows that Isa's real rules have been hidden away by the vatican and other high chritian authorities as the real guidelines for the christian people that Isa told them to follow they find it to hard and strict, thats why the bible has been edited and changed so many times with the their real version not been brought out. But there are many real christans who follow the ways that Isa had originally told his people to follow, i'm not talking about the sunday christians, i am talking about the monks who are keshdari, and follow their religion the way they are supposed to, the khalsa respects people who follow their religion the way they are supposed to. I remember not too long ago reading about Isa and Musa in a version of sau sakhi and how they are connected, how they were blessed with the land of Isreal, the sakhi was very long and hard too understand as it was quite detailed about the two of them, i'll try and re-read the sakhi from the sau sakhi and give the low down.

'Also dhan96Crore can you tell us of the certain things that had to happen on earth before sant bhindrawale comes back (of course u have to be ready to have what u say debated, contridicted etc ' Dont worry about what is going to happen as everything will be done with dasam pitas kirpa, now is the time to do as much bagti as possible, everything can be found out through bagti. 'And Javenmard can u tell us about the Sant ji that u say is back......... ' Javanmard is very bad at being chalaak, he does not know when to submit even though the truth keeps slapping him in the face, dont believe half the things he says.

How is talking about sikh history, shaheeds our Gurus taking people on a guilt trip? Our history wakes people up? if someone used to eat meat, drink alcahol, go out clubbing, smoke etc etc etc and then one day they watched one dvd of baba ranjit singh and left all that, why is that bad? why do people feel so angry i mean come on we all make mistakes so lets just forgive and forget, he is waking our people up in the pinds that is not such a bad thing is it.

Khalsa ji baba ranjit singh made a mistake with that video, he admits it himself so why are we still going on about that, look how mnay sikhs he has woken up around the world at such a young age, lets look at the good instead of the bad, i know plenty of people that watched his dvd's and then became singhs just from that, come on guys give him a break, hes doing some good parchar.

'what kind of God misguides humanity for thousands of years?' Like i said its all Gods play, have you read sri dasam granth if not all your answers you will find in there. 'how do you know the Gurus were pure and sinfree, when all the other 124.000 prophets and millions of avatars all commited sins?' LOL i still cant believe you are asking this dumb question, the Guru is the avataar of Vaheguru, they are sinfree and pure because they are one with vaheguru, and the 124,000 are prophets just like you say, thats all they are messangers of vaheguru Guru - avataar of vaheguru (is 1 with akaal) Prophet - messanger of vaheguru 'if you say that Gurbani states they were, how do you know that the Gurus did not just write this on their own, as there is a possibility that they were sinners. ' GUR KI NINDA SUNA NA KAAN. You seriously need to read Sri guru granth sahib ji and then you will find all your answers, possibility they were sinners? You are the most ridiculas singh i have come across, the gurus were perfect, sinfree and not liars and sinners like you are starting to think, my friend you need to start reading guru granth sahib ji, sri dasam granth sahib ji, and sri sarbloh granth sahib ji, all your doubts about maharaj will be destroyed. 'Gurbani tells you not to follow men that are sinners, and at the same time it tells muslims/hindues to be better muslims/hindues and follow Prophet Muhammad/their respective avatar? that makes no sence. are you saying that Gurbani is sending them into the arms of sinners?' Its about how one understands their own religion, that is exactly what maharaj is saying not to send them to sinners but to send them into the truths of their real beliefs. what kind of God are you obeying? I am obeying the all great akaal purkh vaheguru, i am on the path of sikhism initiated into the khalsa panth, the path which is as thin as a hair, sharper than the edge of a sword. My guru is the great dhan dhan satguru guru granth sahib ji maharaj, dhan dhan sri dasam granth sahib ji maharaj, dhan dhan sri sarbloh granth sahib ji maharaj. 'The "God" he obeys is the copy of the institutions he loves...bound to constant failure... ' Javanmard you have seriously lost the plot, you cannot accept the truth, you are very confused. According to shia beliefs the current quran that muslims have is not the correct one, they believe mehdi mir has the correct version, so javanmard why is the current version not correct? are we seeing a a connection between the bible and the quran of differences, edited versions? Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fathe

'what kind of God misguides humanity for thousands of years?' Like i said its all Gods play, have you read sri dasam granth if not all your answers you will find in there. 'how do you know the Gurus were pure and sinfree, when all the other 124.000 prophets and millions of avatars all commited sins?' LOL i still cant believe you are asking this dumb question, the Guru is the avataar of Vaheguru, they are sinfree and pure because they are one with vaheguru, and the 124,000 are prophets just like you say, thats all they are messangers of vaheguru Guru - avataar of vaheguru (is 1 with akaal) Prophet - messanger of vaheguru 'if you say that Gurbani states they were, how do you know that the Gurus did not just write this on their own, as there is a possibility that they were sinners. ' GUR KI NINDA SUNA NA KAAN. You seriously need to read Sri guru granth sahib ji and then you will find all your answers, possibility they were sinners? You are the most ridiculas singh i have come across, the gurus were perfect, sinfree and not liars and sinners like you are starting to think, my friend you need to start reading guru granth sahib ji, sri dasam granth sahib ji, and sri sarbloh granth sahib ji, all your doubts about maharaj will be destroyed. 'Gurbani tells you not to follow men that are sinners, and at the same time it tells muslims/hindues to be better muslims/hindues and follow Prophet Muhammad/their respective avatar? that makes no sence. are you saying that Gurbani is sending them into the arms of sinners?' Its about how one understands their own religion, that is exactly what maharaj is saying not to send them to sinners but to send them into the truths of their real beliefs. what kind of God are you obeying? I am obeying the all great akaal purkh vaheguru, i am on the path of sikhism which is as thin as a hair, sharper than the edge of a sword. My guru is the great dhan dhan satguru guru granth sahib ji maharaj, dhan dhan sri dasam granth sahib ji maharaj, dhan dhan sri sarbloh granth sahib ji maharaj.