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  1. Just replying to the much earlier comments, castration was practiced to become eunuchs for kings in those days. Probably, some slaves practiced this for the prophet. did they do any of this to captured kings? Ling katwa can still be used as slang for circumcision, so we can't argue too much against it not being circumcision!
  2. I thought Ramgharia is a misl started by Jassa Singh?? How can it be a sub group? by this logic, other misls such as sukercharia and bhangi misl etc are also subgroups?
  3. why not let some of the amritdharis practise polygamy again, like they used to during misl period and before all the way back during Guru Hargobind ji's times, starting with Guru Arjan Dev ji arranging 2 rishtas for Hargobind ji after rejecting Chandu's daughter's rishta? I have also had some silly Amrit dhari Singh of a kenya background trying to justify his 2 exes and the serial monogamy of "dating", he said to me "I didn't do anything with them"....
  4. @paapiman also it says pauri as 25 and and 26 so how can they be from different granths. Didn't bhai Mani Singh put these as one bani when compiling dasam granth. maybe the book by the nirmala sant isn't accurate? ਖੜਗ ਕੇਤ ਮੈਂ ਸ਼ਰਨਿ ਤਿਹਾਰੀ ॥ ਆਪ ਹਾਥ ਦੈ ਲੇਹੁ ਉਬਾਰੀ ॥ਸਰਬ ਠੌਰ ਮੋ ਹੋਹੁ ਸਹਾਈ ॥ ਦੁਸ਼ਟ ਦੋਖ ਤੇ ਲੇਹੁ ਬਚਾਈ ॥੨੫॥ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰੀ ਹਮ ਪਰ ਜਗਮਾਤਾ ॥ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਕਰਾ ਪੂਰਨ ਸੁਭ ਰਾਤਾ ॥ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਸਕਲ ਦੇਹ ਕੋ ਹਰਤਾ ॥ ਦੁਸ਼ਟ ਦੋਖਿਯਨ ਕੋ ਛੈ ਕਰਤਾ ॥੨੬॥
  5. Clash between Nihangs, Radha Soamis; 11 injured (dailypioneer.com) Days after the incident of church vandalization in a Tarn Taran village, a clash broke out between Nihang Sikhs and followers of the Radha Soami Satsang Beas on Sunday after the former allegedly tried to forcibly enter the sprawling Dera premises to graze their cattle, leaving 10 people and a police personnel injured. Both sides pelted stones and bricks at each other and some people fired in the air during the clash, the police said. The Police also resorted to a mild cane-charge to disperse Nihangs and Dera followers. Amritsar (Rural) Senior Superintendent of Police Swapan Sharma said that the situation was under control. According to the police, a group of Nihangs wanted to enter the Dera Radha Soami sect's land to graze their cattle. However, the followers of Dera Radha Soami objected to it and denied them entry, leading to heated arguments. One of the Nihangs allegedly attacked a security in-charge of the Radha Soami Satsang Beas, identified as Parmdeep Singh Teja, who sustained injuries in his shoulders. Jandiala Guru Police Station SHO Davinder Kumar, who was on the spot, tried to intervene and also sustained injuries. The situation took an ugly turn when the group of Nihangs again forcibly tried to enter the Dera premises, leading to the clash between both the groups. Nihangs broke one of the entry gates of the Dera premises, claimed Dera followers. A total of 10 people from both sides suffered injuries, besides the police officer. The injured were admitted to Baba Bakala civil hospital. The Nihangs are a Sikh sect whose blue-robed members are often seen carrying swords or spears. Meanwhile, Punjab Congress president Amrinder Singh Raja Warring appealed to everyone to maintain calm and avoid spreading misinformation. SAD president Sukhbir Singh Badal also appealed to the people to maintain peace and communal harmony while describing the incident as “extremely disturbing”. “Repeated clashes and breakdown of law and order are pushing the state towards anarchy. I urge (chief minister) @BhagwantMann to immediately come to grips with the situation,” he tweeted.
  6. there is something similar written in a book by Bhasauria's son Ran Singh. This is interesting, need more information about sharda pooran granth: Chaupai Sahib - Broken Bani? | SikhNet
  7. thanks for letting me know. I had set it private due to the request of another subreddit. However I feel I will make it public again. At the moment all it is used for is to bring people to this forum. I don't really have much time to update it these days.
  8. Of course the bakra is eaten, it is eaten as part of mahaprasad. You need to read Guru Gobind Singh bani. Khalsa practises kshatriya dharam. shastar tilak is no joke. shastar is thirsty for blood! Ranjit Singh is an excommunicated joker. He didn't even bother to read the pangti from Guru Granth Sahib maharaj which he is trying to explain to his followers. jhatka and shikaar isn't practised just for food, it is practised as khstairya dharam and to make Singhs fearless and used to the sight of blood. Even then it doesn't really prepare you for the horrors you will see in a war! IF jhatka isn't practised, Singhs will do jhatka wrong and it will become phatka, which is against Nihang Singh maryada for consumption. Also supposed to know jhatka to be able to take enemies down with one blow! Also at Kurukshetra, Guru Nanak was more concerned with the hypocrisy of the Brahmin being against meat being cooked on a sacred day, than actually being concerned with meat or veg Guru Angad dev ji used to have meat served to whole sangat for langar, and then the first time an exception was made was when Baba Amar Das joined langar and Guru Angad Dev ji found out that Baba Amar Das was hesitant for eating meat! is goat meat still red meat right? So we shouldn't eat it regularly?
  9. yes the extended length varies in sampradaiye, but ALL samprdaiye read ALL of kabyo baach benti section and ARRIL as well. these other jathas+cults and SGPC won't even read the full kabyo baach benti and make excuses like "the bentiyan ran out, so we don't need to read anymore" and have printed gutkas with the bani missing and have influenced generations of sikhs into reading chaupai sahib in this shankawadi way and still influence even the current youth! They are not just reading bani, they are influencing the wider panth with their anti-dasam granth views through chaupai sahib reading and gutkas!!! there is a Budha Dal school in Patiala Budha Dal Public School - Wikipedia I find it kind of ironic that the Budha Dal School is in the former phulkian states!?!! Yes I am serious, I know about a naamdhari Singh who drinks water from well, which is what a sarbloh bibeki is supposed to drink from!
  10. I still dunno, it's not really a good idea to go to a school that enforces a cult ideology!
  11. do these jatha groups who claim to follow sarbloh bibek follow it properly such as drinking water from a well? In Budha Dal, I think about jeevans such baba Surjit Singh used to keep Sarbloh bibek and it was only small numbers of Singhs who keep sarbloh bibek rehit. In Canada, due to lack of wells, some Nihang Singhs keep a different bibek. I know about naamdharis in India keeping Sarbloh Bibek and drinking water from a well only. Anyone claiming to follow Sarbloh Bibek without using water from wells is lying to us!!! Havan is actually mentioned in Dohira read with Brahm Kavach. Jhatka and shikaar is maryada encouraged by Guru Hargobind Sahib and Guru Gobind Singh. As evidenced from their youtube channel, Gurmat bibek does not have a strict rehit for reading Chaupai Sahib bani and read Kabyo Baach Benti Chaupai in the same shankawadi manner as most of the rest of AKJ and also same as the minimum found in SGPC maryada. If a sikh does shanka on dasam bani and cannot even complete kabyo baach benti before Arril, and makes excuses such as the bentiyaan already being finished, then what good are trying to be strict on some other rehits? These groups think it's ok to butcher Chaupai Sahib and Raagmala because they follow vegeterianism! The fact that they dress up as Nihang Singhs yet are not prepared to give respect to Chaupai Sahib bani as true bana wearers like Budha Dal and Tarna Dal, that is insulting and admin cut behaviour. no you don't, they are sikhs who pretend to dress up Nihangs and going to teach these poor kids how to butcher Chaupai Sahib and do shanka of Raagmala as well! It's a shame they call it dashmesh khalsa school when they don't even respect dasam bani!
  12. I don't think NRIs are allowed to buy land in Punjab, we are only allowed to own land which we inherited!
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