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jattmafia. that word makes me laugh. did kabbadi originate in panjab?

i thought Bhoop in this caswe meant King, not the ministers name. brilliant article tho.

where is it?

heard of the saying "his bark is worser than bite"?

Tony, I think there are youtube vids where the anti DG lot had their misconceptions cleard(whether they chose to accpet it or not i dont know) but the challenge for debate has gone on long enough as singh2 on this forum has pointed out repeatedly, where the anti dg lot just fail to appear. Thes best thing to doi s to do parchaar of DG without beginning with a "ragi doesnt know what he's on about..." vibe. I have a few leaflets of DG that i make sure are always available on our gurdwara literature stand. And give out cds of DG parchaar. We all need to do this cos if the anti DG get in first then they gonna confuse a lot of people. and that aint a good thing.

very good points made shaheediyan ji.

Traditional accounts mention that one of the deities among the 360 destroyed when the place was stormed, was that of Saturn; another was of the Moon and yet another was one called Allah. That shows that in the Kaaba the Arabs worshipped the nine planets in pre-Islamic days. In India the practice of ‘Navagraha’ puja, that is worship of the nine planets, is still in vogue. The indians knew of the existence of 9 planets for centuries but the western world through science didnt discover all the 9th planet till i think the 1960s. I wonder why the indians didnt already announce that there are 9 planets and help those poor astronmers out who worked tirelessly to make this discovery. Or said something like " we knew that ages ago when the excited astronmers made thier announcement to the world..."

the committees prob dont like them sleeoing and eating there for free. ive seen it at our own gurdwara. committee members complaining if freshies come in to eat langar. Its not right.

yeah, these two always stay in my mind, cos i'm hopeless at both of them.(and not much better at the others incase you're wondering.)

Tark(debate) Vidya and Njaj(reasoning) are another 2.

Do the Hindus know this? Can you expand on what qualities monkeys have? What tail did Hanuman use to burn Lanka, if he was actually human? Ganesha has half a tusk, as he according to the scriptures broke one to write with. Which tusks would these have been if Ganesha was human? The hindu scriptures say that the head that was given to Ganesha was of Airapat, as he was cursed to lose his head in a jooni. Was airapat human as well?

Did the people who acquired these powers be able to extend their tails? That would be the true test if it really worked!

they could be being used rightnow in a war somewhere in the galaxy, far far away. Why would they only have to be used on earth?

i have heard that Guru Ji blessed Babur with 10 or maybe 9 successors mirroreing that of Gurgaddi. where are these pangtian from ? sounds like Panth Parkash. I would think that it says whoever came to Guru's door, would be saved whereas those who didnt would be seized by Babur. Could this Babur and his descendants be a metaphor for Yamdoot?

i have his number, but would feel it is not worth bothering him over the phone with.

hanji the same one.

on the history and location of this gurdwara?

Read Sikh history and it will give you the answer.

So there is really no need to go for Ishnaan in Ganga is there? You can go for darshan of Guru Ji or failing that darshan of Sants. I have alreday stated the intention of Guru Ji going to tiraths. Bachitar Natak does not suggest otherwise. Listen to what the Sants say about this. I dont deny the purity of Ganga Jal. I just beleive Guru Ji when he says that the real Ganga Jal of kalyjug is Gobind Naam. That is in no way denying that the Ganga Jal is unholy. Do you beleive that the status of Ganga and tiraths have the same importance in Kalyug as the 3 before?

Tsingh ji, sorry I missed your answer to this even tho I checked all posts several times.

accepted, but what I asked was something different. As you have stated that having darshan of Sants is bigger than going to Ganga, I ask you this question in the same vein. Yes or no answer please. Is having darshan of Sants greater than having darshan of Guru Ji?

ok then i have missed the point. how exactly ? what gurbani says is very clear. can there me any room for misinterpretation of the shabd? yes some time ago i did say the udasis have become a joke and the nirmalas are not far behind. That was based on your balancing of gurbani with vedant. But please dont only take me on my word when it suits you. And if you can, please answer the questions that have been posted in this topic.

is this the same with darshan of Guru Granth Sahib as well?

firstly tsingh ji, dont be so full of yoursself to assume what i think. I have never called any of the above a joke. how does the gurbani miss the point ecxactly? It seems spot on to me? I think it was Sant Gurbachan Singh who told of the tiraths begging for Guru Ji's darshan, not the other way around, that Guru Ji went for their own kalyaan. Anyway the message was quite clear about the Guru's taking ishnaan at tiraths and it isnt the reason that you are foisting on us. Why did Guru Ji create Guru Ki Tribeni and Kirtapur ? So you could go to Ganga? What can Ganga recieve from the Sant Mandli when Guru Ji already placed his charan there?

also the sakhi of Gangsar Jaito should tell you sadhs something about Ganga ishnaan as well.