big5abi

lets not start this again

He's going to hell

I ask the moderators to delete the offensive parts of his posts and ban him! How can you allow such slander?? I am aware that everyone should be given a chance to have their say, but the point of these forums is to spread love and knowedge not to nind Sants and Sampradayes.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS AND HE SHOULD BE BANNED!!

Guru Da Sikh this forum is not strictly reserved for analyzing Gurbani but to explore the many facets of Sikhi. One of them being the teachings of Saints. Since your posts wreak of Kala Afghanaism (ex-communicated from the panth) I assume you have no tolerance towards them. I am from Lopon, and the cows you may see “running around” are the cows kept by the villagers to earn a living, just as you see in every village in Punjab. As for the cow sanctuary, the cows are kept in a complex where they are taken care of. No, it does not refer to cows as being sacred in Guru Granth Sahib Ji but the names Gopal and Govind do appear. These names if taken literally mean the protector of cows and the weak. Many times do the words Khill and Bhikh appear in Gurbani. For example: Khill Bikh Pap Dukh Leh Jahey… Khill Bikh Sakal Deh Ko Harta… Khill Bikh Dukh Naseh… In Sikhism Khill and Bhikh are considered the two lowest acts one can commit. In the faridkot tika Khill is referred to as the killing of a cow and bhikh, the killing of a Saint. Also, in the Janam Sakhi it states: Gou bheans atehh murgian hai haivan garib, tin par shurri haraam hai khavan tenah paleet. In Which Guru Nanak states the killing of cows, buffaloes and chickens is considered haraam. In Sikhi the worship of cows is forbidden but the protection is encouraged. All ten of the Gurus had in one way or another preached the protection of the weak. The cow in Puratan times, was and in many cases still is regarded as a symbol purity and innocence which must be preserved. The Sixth and Tenth Guru were also very vocal about enforcing severe punishments for the killers of cows. Sant Darbara Singh JI had rescued those cows from butchers whom were on their way to a slaughter house. They were built a complex to ensure their well-being. If you actually read the history in the website it says: “Sant Darbara Singh Ji guided the Gursangat towards the holy teachings of the Shri Guru Granth Sahib.” “Reading, reciting and interpreting the Holy Scriptures from the Shri Guru Granth Sahib.” “Sant Jagjit Singh Ji is honouring the life work of Shri Maan Swami Sant Darbara Singh Ji through the teachings of the Shri Guru Granth Sahib in India and internationally.” The attire you speak of was the same attire Guru Gobind Singh Ji sent his five Sikhs to Benares in. Sant Darbara Singh ji always wore a Dastaar during His Kathas on Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as you can see in one of the pictures. I see your understanding on the word “marketing” is very obscured. The purpose of this website is to make known the devotion and service these saints have made to the Panth. The sangat had constructed this site to share the spiritual experiences they have had through the teachings of Bani, interpreted by the saints of this village. No where on the site, or anywhere else can it be presumed that these Saints are influenced by any material desire, let alone “dollars and pounds” Instead of pointing fingers I suggest you point a few at yourself and your obvious mentor kala afghana. I find it strange how someone with the name of guru da sikh can follow such defiled old man. Before accusing deras and villages of possessing too many cows, you should ask kala afghana how many women he possessed during his 92’ rape case.

As King Janak was ascending to SachKhand, He heard the cries of Hell and had shown mercy. With his penance he had gotten 960 million souls redeemed. The redeemed souls were given a temporal life within the astral plane, after which due to the cosmic law, had to descend to this mortal plane to take rebirth. Raja Janak had been sent by Akal Purakh to assume the form of Guru Nanak and bestow supreme liberation upon the redeemed jivas, freeing them from birth and death.

I have heard this from many Sants, one of them being Sant Darbara Singh of Lopon.

Guru Nanak Maharaj was Raja Janak of Mithla in His past life.

Vaikunth is Vishnus Heaven where a preservatory shakti governs the material creation reclining among the coils of the great snake. According to indian mythology, Vaikunth is located ontop a cosmic mountain called Meru. Flowing through it is the river Ganga, whose source is often said to be the lotus feet of Vishnu. He is frequently referred to as Narayan, the ever present and all-prevading spirit. According to Vaishnavism, Vishnu and his abode is the sole reality. one without second percieved as brahman the Absolute in a form that may be approached or related to by jivas. he is the means to liberation and the goal to be attained. yet, the soul, after living many aeons of pleasure, still has to descend to the material world to attain Final Liberation. Vaikunth has also been used synonomously for Sach Khand by many Sants. As Vaikunth is subject to dissolution, Sach khand is not. Sach khand is the truly eternal or imperishable, all embracing realm reached by the soul on its ascent, free frm change, the ultimate abode of absolute bliss, beyond the dissolution and grand dissolution. sach Khand is the final destination of the soul which is beyond brahm. this realm is beyond maya and beyond all the heaven-worlds such as shiv puri, inder puri and vaikunth. many Sainst have indicated that the brahm described in the upanishads and in yoga and vedant is below the highest level they have known. namdev says that he has experienced the ultimate goal of yoga-knowledge of brahm- and he has also gone beyond that: I have churned the six schools of philosophy, and extracted their essence I have learnt the utimate goal of the yogis and ascetics and known the joy of merging in brahm through the grace of the saints, says nama I have transcended all of that. namdev, gatha 2026

click here There has been a website launched of Lopon Sampradaye which is still being updated, check it out.

The mind of an ordinary person is uncontrollably active with incoming alerts from the five senses of seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting and touching, and with directing outgoing messages to the motor nerves in response. true concentration whether on prayer or God or anything else, is impossible so long as the mind is thus outwardly distracted. most people experiance surcease from the sensory tumult only in the state of sleep, when the mind automatically stills the flow of the life energy that activates the sensory and motor nerves. meditation techniques teach of controlling the life energy consciously, enabling one to disconnect the mind at will from the intrusion of the senses. this creates not an unconscious oblivion, but a blissful transference of identity from the false reality of the body and sensory world to the truth of ones being, the supernal soul, created in gods image. in that interiorized silence wherein the souls divine sonship is no longer squandered in the prodigal outward consciousness, true prayer and divine communion with God, are not only possible, but dynamically effective.

Vishnu is immaculate compared to us and the demi-gods but he is still in maya and is subject to dissolution. All the names like Vishnu and Raam are sometimes used as synonyms for Akaal. Guru Arjan Dev Maharaj praises vishnu and his avtars and calls them saviours.

Matheen you are mistaken, I said Vishnu is immaculate, as Guru Ji states in the Guru Granth Sahib. Valli Singh said kalki will not be infalliable. Which means not perfect. I suggest you thoroughly read through posts before replying.

The Kalki avtar is Raja Dileep Singh from the sun dynasty and great grandfather of the saviour of treta, Ram Chander and father of Bhagirath. Dileep Singh was the only one to complete 100 Ashvamedh yugs, other than Inder. His life was one of valor and sacrifice. He had protected the celestial cow, Nandini and offered himself as food to a tiger which was materialized by Nandini to test the King. He had later given up his kingdom situated at Hastinapur (Delhi) and had retired to a forest, where he had spent the last years of his life immersed in simran. He had then ascended to the mountain of Mandrachal where he still remains in samadhi awaiting the time for his descent to Mrityu Lok, towards the end of Kaliyuga, to rid it of its pain and suffering. This is true as a lot of Maha Shaktis such as Sant Darbara Singh (Lopon) and Sant Isher Singh (Kaleran) have also confirmed this. He will be a Vishnu Avtar, who is the preserver, protector and master of the three worlds. He is free of anguish and absolutley immaculate. Sri Guru Arjun Dev Ji Has spoken about Vishnu In his Bani on ang1082: O Creator, You assumed the form of Bavan to defeat the Demons, You are the Lord of all. You are Sri Raam Chander, whom has no shape or form. Adorned with garlands, holding the divine discus, You're beautiful and incomparable Emancipator, the enticer of hearts, Lord of Laxmi By the Pleasure of His Will, He took incarnation as the great fish and the tortoise. He has staged His play; He is called the four-armed Lord. He carries the conch, the chakra and the war club; He is the Great Charioteer, who stays with His Saints. He alone unites with Him, whom He unites with Himself. No one can attain the Lord by himself. He Himself is the milk-maid, and He Himself is Krishna. Which of Your Glorious Virtues can I chant with my one tongue? Note: only a selection of lines from ang 1082-83 Parmatma sends his radiant sons, or his forms to dispel the agonies of the world. He himself is rid of maya and matter. Just like Guru Nanak said He will come in the form of 72 Nitt avatars. They will be his form but not literally Him.