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  1. There was a king who was mixed bloodline with Ptolemaic Greek (who were rulers of conquered Egypt) whose mother converted to Judaism. His name was King Izas of Adiabene. He helped lead a revolt against the Romans. The historian Flavius Josephus mentions this account where he, as a collaborator who joined Rome and was adopted by the Roman Emperor, Titus Flavius, happened upon the crucifixion of his friend and asked that his body be taken down. Josephus, as per Jewish convention was referred to as "son of" or bar, Matthias. He is the literal Joseph of Arimathea, a corruption of Joseph bar Matthias. This account is written: As a collaborator, it was the duty of Flavius Josephus to put down the Jewish revolt, and he did so by mimicking the Jewish scripture to create a new moshiach (anointed King) who would be obedient to Roman laws, pay taxes to the Roman Emperor, and worship the Roman Emperor as God... all requirements of Roman subjection. So they doctored the scriptural prophecies and created Iesous, Greek variant of Izas, or Anglicized, Jesus. This Jesus was an amalgam of a few things, mainly, the primary center of the cult of Roman Emperor worship, Julius Caesar, the true King and High Priest of Jupiter who was slain by his close friend Brutus (Judaized variant, Judas). Brutus, in custom with Roman tradition, signaled the assassination of Julius Caesar, by giving him the kiss off, or kiss of death. Caesar was slain on the ides of March and triumphantly manifested as a comet ascending the Heavens signaling his deification during Eastertime, or the traditional time of the goddess Astarte-Isis who resurrected the slain sun-god Osiris which is why she, and Jesus are always traditionally depicted wearing halos of the sun. Egyptian gods Isis and Serapis Christos Another depiction of Isis and Serapis Christos, they are serpents. This is why the Gnostic scriptures refer to Jesus as the serpent in the Garden of Eden, who gave the parents of mankind "gnosis" or wisdom. Now, following the murder of Julius Caesar, his close friend Marc Anthony became the next high priest of Jupiter, and in Roman custom raised up a victory tropaeum for a fallen hero and General. The tropaeum held aloft the helmet, breastplate, weapon and shield of the fallen. What Marc Anthony did was place the corpse of Julius Caesar on the tropaeum, wearing his victory laurel wreath and a purple robe signifying kingship. This had the effect of enraging the populace and bringing the murderers to justice, for they had slain the Lord's Anointed, the true King, the Clementia and Son of God. The world's first crucifix. So this is why the figure of "Jesus" became Jesus Christ, JC, Julius Caesar and why he taught pay taxes to Caesar and obey Roman laws, instead of fight the Romans for a throne, and this is also why he became a God-man, something utterly alien to Jewish monotheism. In a sneaky way, a lot of Jews were duped into following a Roman religion of Emperor worship and becoming an obedient subject people.
  2. The devatay are depicted in multidimensional superimposition. At the same time, in the same place, a multiplicity of outcomes, movements, actions. This alludes to an ancient understanding of parallel universes. Perhaps there are millions of these forces, like Indra, Krishan, Lakshmi because there are millions of worlds, and in the material dimension, there are countless swaroops of the ONE which has no form, like shadows of a true reality. ਕਾਯਉ ਦੇਵਾ ਕਾਇਅਉ ਦੇਵਲ ਕਾਇਅਉ ਜੰਗਮ ਜਾਤੀ ॥ Kā▫ya▫o ḏevā kā▫i▫a▫o ḏeval kā▫i▫a▫o jangam jāṯī. Within the body, the Divine Lord is embodied. The body is the temple, the place of pilgrimage, and the pilgrim. ਕਾਇਅਉ ਧੂਪ ਦੀਪ ਨਈਬੇਦਾ ਕਾਇਅਉ ਪੂਜਉ ਪਾਤੀ ॥੧॥ Kā▫i▫a▫o ḏẖūp ḏīp na▫ībeḏā kā▫i▫a▫o pūja▫o pāṯī. ||1|| Within the body are incense, lamps and offerings. Within the body are the flower offerings. ||1|| ਕਾਇਆ ਬਹੁ ਖੰਡ ਖੋਜਤੇ ਨਵ ਨਿਧਿ ਪਾਈ ॥ Kā▫i▫ā baho kẖand kẖojṯe nav niḏẖ pā▫ī. I searched throughout many realms, but I found the nine treasures within the body. ਨਾ ਕਛੁ ਆਇਬੋ ਨਾ ਕਛੁ ਜਾਇਬੋ ਰਾਮ ਕੀ ਦੁਹਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Nā kacẖẖ ā▫ibo nā kacẖẖ jā▫ibo rām kī ḏuhā▫ī. ||1|| rahā▫o. Nothing comes, and nothing goes; I pray to the Lord for Mercy. ||1||Pause|| ਜੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੇ ਸੋਈ ਪਿੰਡੇ ਜੋ ਖੋਜੈ ਸੋ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ Jo barahmanḏe so▫ī pinde jo kẖojai so pāvai. The One who pervades the Universe also dwells in the body; whoever seeks Him, finds Him there. -Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ang 695. ------- puruṣaḥ prakṛti-stho hi bhuńkte prakṛti-jān guṇān kāraṇaḿ guṇa-sańgo 'sya sad-asad-yoni-janmasu The living entity in material nature thus follows the ways of life, enjoying the three modes of nature. This is due to his association with that material nature. Thus he meets with good and evil among various species. upadraṣṭānumantā ca bhartā bhoktā maheśvaraḥ paramātmeti cāpy ukto dehe 'smin puruṣaḥ paraḥ Yet in this body there is another, a transcendental enjoyer, who is the Lord, the supreme proprietor, who exists as the overseer and permitter, and who is known as the Supersoul. -Bhagavad-Gita 13:22-23 ------- There are millions and millions of uncountable created beings on millions and millions of worlds, yet transcendentally within each, is the ONE indivisible, unborn and uncreated Paramatma which is essentially Akal murat. "11 All faces are His faces; all heads, His heads; all necks, His necks. He dwells in the hearts of all beings. He is the all−pervading Bhagavan. Therefore He is the omnipresent and benign Lord. 12 He, indeed, is the great Purusha, the Lord of creation, preservation and destruction, who inspires the mind to attain the state of stainlessness. He is the Ruler and the Light that is imperishable. 13 The Purusha, no bigger than a thumb, is the inner Self, ever seated in the heart of man. He is known by the mind, which controls knowledge and is perceived in the heart. They who know Him become immortal. 14 The Purusha with a thousand heads, a thousand eyes, a thousand feet, compasses the earth on all sides and extends beyond it by ten fingers' breadth. 15 The Purusha alone is all this−what has been and what will be. He is also the Lord of Immortality and of whatever grows by food. 16 His hands and feet are everywhere; His eyes, heads and faces are everywhere; His ears are everywhere; He exists compassing all. 17 Himself devoid of senses, He shines through the functions of the senses. He is the capable ruler of all; He is the refuge of all. He is great. 18 The Swan, the ruler of the whole world, of all that is moving and all that is motionless, becomes the embodied self and dwelling in the city of nine gates, flies outward. 19 Grasping without hands, hasting without feet, It sees without eyes, It hears without ears. It knows what is to be known, but no one knows It. They call It the First, the Great, the Full." -English- translation of Svetasvatara Upanishad, 11-19
  3. "Harjas you are a true hypocrite. You criticise Khalistanis for seeking the help of Pakistan and yet about Bose hobnobbing with Nazis and Japanese imperialists you say-;" Azad Hind Fauj was India's first independent standing Army fighting for liberation of the Matra bhoomi. Khalistanis were acting in collusion with Pakistani ISI terrorist militants waging a terror war against their own state. EVERYONE in WWII was hobnobbing with some dictator or other. Although I am happy the axis lost the war and agree they were the aggressors, I can't help but feel saddened that Congress Party became the predominant force rather than Subhash Chandra Bose and the INA for their INTEGRATED SECULAR NON-HINDUTVA plan for a Nation which would have respected the Sikhs AND martial prowess instead of the shitty Gandhian crap and the endless fawning and sucking up to British and the West.
  4. Funny isn't it that own Congress Party did not even think of the soldiers of Azad Hind Fauj as evil war criminals as attempted portrayal by Britain after the war... but as honorable freedom fighters. A respect petty people such as the ignorants on this forum refuse to acknowledge. The likely fact that there would probably BE no Indian independence without there existence should give pause for reflection the terrible slanders you all are giving them. Stop inventing lies about them. They were never guilty of "war crimes."
  5. Zulu writes: yes but they had alligiance to the nazi's, what clever person would have an alliance with scum like that who persecuted millions of jew's and homosexuals? I understand why they wanted to fight the british BUTTTTT did they actually believe Germany and Italy would win WWII and help liberate india from the british? what a joke. Uh, did you forget about the allied alliance with "Uncle Joe?" How convenient and self-serving! Why is it that US and Britain could have an alliance with a repressive dictator and madman, and yet never be considered complicit in his crimes, and yet, the Azad Hind Fauj which most likely never had full awareness of the extent of Japan and Germany's repression (nobody really did until AFTER the war), and who have NEVER been called before ANY military tribunal and who historically were a relatively minor force in these Lilas is suddenly now castigated as being equally guilty for mass crimes and repressions they never committed, never ideologically advocated or even defended? Sounds rather hypocritical to me. Why blame them for what history has never accused and blamed them for? Even in Hitler's Germany historians distinguish the serving soldiers from those specific units ACTUALLY engaged in war crimes. But Sikh Awareness forum does not. LOL, well okay then, knock yourselves out. So do you really believe that just because Britain and America fought alongside Stalin in the war, they were also guilty of his crimes? Because historically his mass murders far surpassed anything of Hitlers, let alone Japans. Azad Hind Fauj was never a "nazi" organization. It was a Nationalist organization not unlike the United States or China. You know, the same United States which recruited known war criminals and mass murderers into intos intelligence agencies after the war? People like....Klaus Barbie, the butcher of Lyon... and that with full knowledge of his crimes and intent to put his "expertise" to work in suppressing Latin America by supporting the installation of a series of failed fascist governments. Here, you can read about it. But let's not have this hypocritical false "disgust" for Azad Hind Fauj guilty of nothing but wanting to fight for own independence. Surely you can appreciate the culpability for forming an alliance with a powerful military nation BEFORE revelations of mass murders and repressions have become public knowledge, and shielding convicted mass murderers and forming alliance with them to perpetrate "dirty business" with them while hiding the truth about these ventures. Oh, and this going on about repression of homosexuals? How come you've never said a word about Islam and sharia treatement of homosexuals, but now it appears as some historical quirk belonging to nazi Germany for which Azad Hind Fauj is supposed to also be blamed for? (even having nothing whatever to do with anything of the sort?) See, this is the kind of ridiculous, hypocritical propaganda people can expect from this forum. SO LONG AS IT"S anti-Hindu or anti-India...anything goes, right? Even while keeping hypocritical ignorance of the great white knights of the Allied powers. Yeah right.
  6. "but it can not happen if Sikhs isolate themselves from interacting with Muslims like alot do- there will be trust issues and it may take many many years before that is gone." Well the truth of it is the whole world is really one big family and has totally lost sight of that fact. Whole world needs to heal on deepest imaginable levels so we canactually work at creating a world of mutual harmony and respect with authentic love of the human being without any negation, coercion, criticism or need for any kind of conversion other than the conversion of the heart.
  7. And what do you propose to do about it? What is your solution? I already said the reform will have to come from within Islam when enough people cry out for decency and toleration then they can take back the control they have given to fanatical mullahs and archaic system of abusiveness. but lastly I don't expect any change will come about by getting hysterical simply to listen to the problems and concerns and jump to another blame of something else entirely, as below. You are aware of 1984? That is thanks to Hinduvta-You can have a look at this too Part of the solution will be in confronting the problem squarely and honestly...and as Sangh Parivar Vishwa Hindu Parishad has done, set up phone hotlines and support to those young girls and their families and help in exposing these problems to police.
  8. Hindu dharam is flawed for the brahmanical system- but I do not mean to disrespect your Gurdev I still respect some hindu spirtual masters who have great spirtual stages and I humbly ask for your blessings and forgiveness in anything I have said to offend you or will say to offend you. My Gurudeva is a shudra caste, lol.
  9. "Oi I resent you calling me a Muslim- I am not a Muslim at all- I am against circumcision the sunnaon the whole-any of the sharia. I am a Sikh if you do not want to call me that because" I think it was the part where you called Guru Nanak a prophet or a pir and Mohammed as the beloved Final seal of the prophets or something like that. Then you were fanatically defending the "interpretations" of haddiths and Quran while totally ignoring heart-rending video of violated Sikh girl and her family....and NO Sikh could ever ignore such a disgraceful thing and fail to call out for some kind of justice...and not excuses.
  10. "Yes I agree with you there clergy is flawed but they are not the only ones, majority of Hindus clergy is flawed, Sikh clergy is flawed," Yeah, but they aren't preaching from scriptures that advocate murder and rape see?
  11. "The lionising of Bose is a way for the RSS and BJP extremist Hindus to criticise the role of Gandhi and Nehru" Uh, Gandhi and Nehru manage to condemn themselves and destroy their own credibility without help from anyone. “It is quite clear that you are today the one person in the world who can prevent a war which may reduce humanity to the savage state. Must you pay that price for an object however worthy it may appear to you to be? Will you listen to the appeal of one who has deliberately shunned the method of war not without considerable success?” ~M.K. Gandhi, Letter to Adolf Hitler Gandhi wrote letters to Hilter and called him his friend. Yes, demonize Bose and his efforts building and raising a fighting force to secure independence or LOL rejoice at Gandhi who wrote letters to Hitler asking him to be "nice." Well, I still solidly support Subhash Chandra Bose as the alternative was lamentable. Master Tara Singh and the Sikh leadership never considered India as their motherland. At the time Master Tara Singh WAS the Sikh leadership, and...he was also the founder of Vishwa Hindu Parishad, you know the Hindu Nationalist Hindutva movement religious wing of Sangh Parivaar? He did not support the CONGRESS Party, he WAS a supporter of Hindutva. Master Tara Singh said:
  12. And what do you call the firebombing of Frankfurt and Dresden by the British>? War crimes go both ways. But the fact of the matter is Azad Hind Fauj were not as a military force ever guilty of "war crimes" so stop sensationalizing with blanket accusations. Also, Bose wanted to unite the Hindu's, Sikhs, AND the Muslims into a National Unity which is something RSS/BJP is still falling short on. I find it to be a great ideal. He was anti-caste, and pro-socialism which would have elevated the financial status of the common man. He was NEVER accused of being a fake politician after the money, he would have prevented partition, etc. Bose wanted to build a truly SECULAR nation (note, he never wanted a HINDU rashtra) with such religious unity and freedom. And THAT is quite independent of any excoriation of the axis powers. When you have been subjugated by the democracies, it can't be condemned that you look to their enemies for support. So your pictures of the Imperial Japanese Army and their own National goals were really very different things. And partition was worse and resulted in far more casualties and deaths than the rape of Nanking. What exactly in my support and admiration of Bose AND the Azad Hind Fauj are you faulting? I admire strong and beautiful Sikhs. I would have loved the history of India to have been different.
  13. "With those quran quotes you posted up just like Guru Granth Sahib an ancient language can be translated differently hence why it is forbidden to translate Guru Granth Sahib in the time of the Gurus to later versions of punjabi. With those quotes there are many websites which even deal with them you are looking at a certain interpretation for instance with the first one if you contextualise it." But the rapes and murders are still occurring and still being justified based on these scriptural passages. So it ISN'T a problem of interpretation as Islamic scholars and authentically recognized clergy are also advocating the extremism. Until, say Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Pakistan, Lybia, Egypt, etc., stops advocating legitimacy of female war booty, Sharia, coerced conversions, Jazhia and Jihad, this conversation will never end.
  14. "Since you feel the very need to excommunicate me on a forum let me give you the definition of a Sikh and you ask your self if you are one?" Okay, I laughed. hey wait a minute now! I protest! I am the only excommunicated person on this forum! LOL, stop encroaching on my space. Am I a Sikh? No. I was an amritdhari and gave up my amrit vows and have taken diksha with a Hindu Guru and am now a Hindu....since you asked. I never said anything personally against you or even about your qualities. I find you a sincere person. But I as many others have these honest issues and concerns with Islam which you haven't yet answered clearly. You don't have to, but they are honest and valid concerns. I must admit I was shocked since the way this thread started out, I thought you were a Sikh asking sincere question can a Sikh engage in Namaaz as spiritual practice, and then clarifying you felt put off and excluded from Sikh community. I was quite shocked to read you are a very knowledgeable Muslim. You are aware of 1984? That is thanks to Hinduvta-You can have a look at this too You realize that 1. Hindutva is an Indian Nationalist political organization and not a religion. The word Hindu means both native land of birth and citizen of that land and culture, Bharat bhoomi, as well as Hindu religion the ancestral religion originating from Hindustan. Hindutva doesn't refer to Hindu religion as much as it refers to the political paradigm of being a loyal son of the Motherland as a political activist preserving own Hindu (cultural as well as religious) tattva. Naturally a Nationalist political organization will be defensive and protective against all threats foreign and domestic. It is NOT a spiritual sangat of sants. Often it is police and military as well as families. And then there is the general body of religious Hindus who had no political power behind the Congress Party reactions of the Indira government. As well, we can evaluate what mutual role the Sikh militant's armed insurrection provoked as violent response from the government. Honestly, in any other country in the world, a militant organization with stated aims to establish secessionist state by force of arms, is not also met with same degree of genocidal force? So, this is a political issue and has nothing to do with Hindu philosophy which is obviously written at date far earlier than the Constitution of the modern Indian state. Yet something is missing...there are no Hindu scriptures that advocate or justify the rape and murder of non-Hindus. So Hindu's behaving adharmically as goondhas for ANY political purpose must suffer the due karma and paap of their actions and answer to the Jamdhoots and Dharamraj. Last I heard a Muslim in Jihad against the infidel is rewarded with heaven for his good deed. That's the difference here. "Those who ask a sikh's caste, they are not my sikh" It is a sin for Vaishnava to ask about caste also. And all persons irrespective of birth are eligible to receive brahmana initiation. So please don't make claims about caste since it was the Vaishnav Bhaktas who initiated caste reform movement in North India, before there were Sikhs, even initiating Muslims and women as spiritual equals. "hence respect all Humans." Is it respect of humans to whitewash scriptural injunctions currently used by fanatics to mistreat them? Rather than attacking the messenger, it would have been good to hear from you about support for reform of abuses and abusive interpretations from within own Islam rather than hysterical attempts to implicate Hindus while still sitting in own pile of shit. "As for your points about these issues first of all that is not a whole religion to blame but groups and indviduals yes these are the issues coming out of haddiths and mad priests and what do we do in return we preach hatred against it." Instead of this ignorant and blind collusion seeking to deny and justify criminality within a community and not even exploring how to reform those passages which do in fact justify rape and terrorism. That kind of reform can only come from within the Muslim community. But it will never come so long as "Muslim advocates" continue to bluster aggressively and denounce as "prejudiced" and "hateful" anyone who brings awareness to these legitimate problems. By denying problems they are never solved. Do you deny these rapes and coerced conversions are occurring? UNLESS PRO-MUSLIM COMMUNITY ITSELF STARTS GIVING A DAMN AND PROTESTING THESE EGREGIOUS WRONGDOING IN NAME OF OWN RELIGION, THEY ARE GIVING TACIT APPROVAL OF THE CRIMES WHILE BLAMING THE VICTIMS AND THEIR RELIGIONS! I happen to feel that a worldwide epidemic of date rapes and relationships under false pretenses to coerce Islamic conversions is worthy of being brought to the attention of the general public since the young girls and their families at least deserve advance warning, ESPECIALLY since no one in the MUSLIM community has the DIGNITY to send the warnings themselves while strongly condemning such practices which would give people some sense of respect for them. When all these people do is justify, excuse, explain away, hide behind "interpretations" which aren't even accepted as "official" and blame and deny the problems and then attack people who protest as being anti-Muslim hate-mongers, you are GUILTY of colluding to defend criminal acts against members of another religion. Seriously stop hiding behind the "anti-Muslim" banner and do something as a Muslim to speak against these criminal and immoral activities. I would respect you so much more. Does no one give a damn about Dharma and protecting innocents from harm and indignity? That should come FIRST and FOREMOST@! (This was a cut and paste from another forum. I have written far too many of the same arguments to the same mentalities and missionaries over and over and I get tired, sorry. I'm not really angry anymore. I was when I first wrote it. But I am saddened that these abuses are still occurring and being whitewashed and denied. For Islam to truly flower as a beautiful religion and path of toleration and peace then do the simple thing, acknowledge the problems and share the "better" interpretations. You simply can't ignore injunctions to rape and kill "unbelievers.")
  15. Well if you have a citation which contradicts that Braj is the language of Braja and has no known association to Vaishnava poets and literature, then please do share it in English for the non-Gurmukhi readers, unless of course you think I am presenting my own expert opinion by citing an external source for my evidence. And if you also agree that Braj Bhasha has no known relationship to Vaishnavism then please do share a source more credible than someone's pindu bravado of being born in India and related to Rajputs and making claim that Braj comes from Raj instead. I already said I could be persuaded with mature presentation of evidence instead of silly blustering one-upmanship. It's just irrational argumentativeness to try and negate every single thing I say because you feel you have to oppose me for not being Sikh or challenging some of the mainstream interpretations of Hindu philosophy originating from propaganda intending to erase it's credible relationship to Historical Sikhism.
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