jvalasingh

Great quote, thank you Freed for sharing this.

Nidar Singh Nihang will be holding another 4 day Shastarvidiya Seminar in Ottawa, Canada on 31st of August till the 3rd of September 2012. The Seminar will consist of intensive training over 9 hours across per day. This event is open door to all martial artists who would like to experience and learn Shastarvidiya. The Seminar will run as follows: Friday 31st August 2012 - 930am - 6:30pm Saturday 1st September 2012 - 930am - 6:30pm Sunday 2nd September 2012 - 930am - 6:30pm Monday 3rd September 2012 - 930am - 6:30pm For more information on Shastarvidiya please visit: Facebook: http://www.facebook....s/shastarvidiya Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/shastarvidiya Nidar Singhs Webpage: http://www.nidarsingh.com/ Facebook event page: http://www.facebook....59355087515532/ The camp will cost $100 for the four days, or $25 per day, to help cover the expense of bringing Nidar Singh Nihang from UK. Video from Dec 2011 Seminar in Ottawa, Canada - Video Testiomonial from June 2012 Seminar in Ottawa, Canada -

http://www.manglacharan.com/2012/03/guru-gobind-singh-ji-playing-holi-suraj.html

http://www.manglacharan.com/2012/03/passage-below-is-portion-from-gurpratap.html

http://www.manglacharan.com/2011/05/kumbh-mela-2010.html

http://www.manglacharan.com/2011/05/vedas-and-gurbani-sakhi-guru-amar-daas.html

http://www.manglacharan.com/2011/05/chandi-pargat-hona-katha-by-giani-baba.html

Site back up for sangat to read Site is going to be totally redesigned (properly this time)

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਆਪ ਪਰਮੇਸ਼੍ਵਰ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਲ੍ਯਿੋ ਸ਼ੁਭ ਵੰਸ਼ ਪ੍ਰਧਾਨਾ Sri Guru Nanak is Parmeshvar, taking 'Avatar' in the highest and auspicious lineage [bedi]. [From Sarbloh Granth aka Manglacharan Puran, page 489, Vol. 2] In Adi Guru Granth Sahib, it is written: ਭਨਿ ਮਥੁਰਾ ਕਛੁ ਭੇਦੁ ਨਹੀ ਗੁਰੁ ਅਰਜੁਨੁ ਪਰਤਖ੍ਹ ਹਰਿ ॥ ...So speaks Mat'huraa: there is no difference between God and Guru; Guru Arjun is the Personification of the Lord Himself. ||7||19|| Furthermore in Bhai Gurdas Ji's varan it says: ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਉ ਹੈ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਸੋਈ ॥ Guru Nanak is the True Guru and is God Himself. So this concept of the Guru being Parmeshvar Himself [in sargun saroop] is in all of our scriptural literature.

This conversation isn't going anyway because you still haven't shown me where my translation is incorrect, rather you avoid it and bring up Gurdev Niddar Singh, which was not even mentioned in the article. Once again I will clarify for you, Baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindranvale brings up two forms of vidiya, first is Patebaaz, which we can infer to mean Gatka by looking at the definition and what Baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindranvale says, and the second is the real vidiya he says which is just to kill, which we would infer to mean the real vidiya taught by Guru Gobind Singh Ji and other countless Singh's, which in historical granths has been mentioned as Shastar Vidiya or Ayudh Vidiya. The history of the Baba Darbara Singh Akhara isn't in question here, and if you do wish to question it please make a visit to the Akhara and I'm sure Gurdev Niddar Singh will be happy to discuss the history there. If you want to carry this on, please go through my article again and show me where there is a translation error.

First of all, you said I have made a mistake in the translation, please show me where there is a translation mistake. Patebaaz here obviously refers to gatka, if you do not accept that then you are truely blind to what gatka is, and how they perform it. The gatkabaaj in the photo I posted on that article himself said to me, "Gatka is not a martial art, but rather just a way to get kids into Sikhi". Now I have not even mentioned Gurdev Niddar Singh in the article, why do you bring him up? Everyone knows the real 'vidiya' is called Shastar Vidiya, read old historical granths, i.e. Suraj Prakash etc. Are you bringing him up simply because Gurdev Niddar Singh is the only openly teaching Shastar Vidiya teacher in the world right now? And since you disagree with Gurdev Niddar Singh then you disagree with the puratan Shastar Vidiya, which the Guru's themselves taught to the Singhs?

Mithar, you still have yet to show me where my translation is incorrect or shows bias.

I always seek to ensure the translations on the site are as literal as possible, to ensure there is no bias in the translation. For this my site has been praised by many people, with little to no complaints. However, you seem to imply that there is a translation error, which is fine, everyone makes mistakes, especially me. Please do show me line by line where there are mistakes in the translation.