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  1. So....a prison sentence is a light sentence? Just because the father doesn't get executed doesn't mean he doesn't do time in jail. But if you really insist on death sentence as a retribution why not start petitioning your own country (chose UK or India/Khalistan). Again you're throwing at me articles about the Iranian government when it is very clear to anyone who has studied fiqh that the Iranian government has violated essential tenets of Shi'ite jurisprudence. And this is not some liberal human rights group saying but high ranking clerics who have chosen to stay out of the revolutionary government, people like Ayatollah Shirazi whose family has been persecuted under Khamenei for that very reason. Shi'ite fiqh prohibits the intrusion of the authorities into peoples' privacy, it also forbids the imposition of the dîn by force. Amîr ul Mu'minin (as) never had a problem with women who didn't wear the Islamic veil precisely because the hijab is a sign of mu'min (believer) as opposed to being the identity marker of someone who merely submits (muslim) to Allah (swt). Furthermore the Iranian government has banned the buying and carrying of swords whereas the hadith clearly say that it's mustahab. They alsp banned public tabarra against Omar (la), Abu Bakr (la) and Aishah (la). etc etc etc THe idea that somehow Khamenei and his regime are representatives of Shi'ite tradition is simply ludicrous and a sign of profound ignorance. Now as imperfect and doctrinally dubious the laws of the Iranian government may be, there still is a legal system with its good and bad aspects. Now you tell me: what legal system did the panj pyare of Gobind Rai use when they condemned 300 masands to be burnt alive and thrown into a well? I would like to see the legal system that would have justified such a ruling. Now you can't give me the source because there is no such legal source in Sikhism. It is pretty clear that these Masands have been judged without a clear legal framework, condemned to death for offenses that were mostly economical in nature. What rule of law can a citizen of your future Khalsa Raj expect when all decisions are the result of the fantasies of five pindoos? The penalty for stealing an apple might range from paying a fine to getting ones whole family gang raped (as it has happened many times in your region of the world) because of the absence of a clearly defined legal system, which you NEVER EVER HAD. What good can I as a citizen expect from a Guru that gets his disciple slapped for having dirtied his shirt with some plaster while he was plastering his Guru's house? On what basis was that punishment given? Where is the text stating the legality of such an action? There is none because you have no legal whatsoever unlike civilized people. Your rulings are ALL based on the whimps and desires of the council of five pindoos who basically decide what they want. I remember a case at the Paris gurdwara in Bobigny when I lived there: a granthi had stolen money from the golak, the panj pyare decided to have him tied up and kept him in a room. For several weeks people were allowed to visit that room and beat the hell out of him before he was sent back to India. Now...apart from the fact that this is completely illegal in France. The question I have is: on what basis, what legal principles did these panj pyare take that decision? None. They settled for whatever came through their heads. God knows what even happened to that guy when he returned to India. The pradhan's son told me he had his hand cut off apparently. So you can keep on pointing fingers at Iran all you want, but people in Iran are well of the disturbing abuses of the Khamenei regime and his own disrespect for basic tenets of Shiite jurisprudence. Your people can't even be asked to have a legal in the first place let alone have a structure to implement it. Khalsa Raj? yeah right my ass... Calling Iranian people retrograde because of the abuses that their own press reports is frankly taking the piss when your own people can't even be asked to preserve the life of millions of baby girls who are getting slaughtered every single day with the silent consent OF YOUR admin cut SAVAGE COMMUNITY. And your alternative to all of this is what? Drinking cannabis milkshakes and parading around in 18th century arms coz it's maryada like innit like? like? admin cut that shit!!!
  2. Love the Ahl ul Bayt (as), fight their ennemies. Summs up Tashayyu pretty well.
  3. I had one of my law students in Tehran check your so-called paragraph 220 which you mentionned... The actual paragraph is: "Section 16 A father or paternal grandfather who kills his son (or grandson) shall be liable only to pay the Diyat for the murder to the heirs as a Ta'zeer." Retribution for murder is a right of the victim's family. If the murderer happens to be the father of grandfather the retribution (death penalty) is converted into diyat or a prison sentence. Kind of not the same as the bullcrap you quoted. And why the hell are you qouting flipping Sunni hadiths when talking about Iran? All those spikes in your head must have made your brain gone soft. Also the cases you mentionned have been reported by the Iranian press. We all know there are retrograde elements in Iranian society, but at least Iran doesn't have the world's highest rate for female infanticide....
  4. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8072158/Mother-hacked-to-death-after-filing-for-divorce.html
  5. Khalsa Dharam Shastar is I think a great work. It's by far the most serious and credible attempt at creating a traditionalist catechism. It's really sad it hasn't been published again since 1914.The section on the relations between Sikhism and Hinduism is truly fascinating like much of the rest of the work.
  6. All in due time. Yes the records exist.I'll write it all down in a nice article when I am done with my present project. Sikhism is not my priority at the moment.

  7. No need to feel flattered. We Shi'as don't claim you guys, just your founder, Baba Nanak Shah who was initiated by Hazrat Darvish Hassan, a shaykh of the Nimatollahi order. The records are in Tehran :). You guys can keep on doing what you're doing and claiming what you're claiming. It's not important to us.

  8. Kaljug wrote: I thank God for having made you stupid. That's probably one of the most blatant lies I have ever heard. WOW. Ever heard of tri-functional Indo-European societies? Read George Dumézil and Max Weber. admin cut
  9. Obviously not Indian either...
  10. The Prophet said about him and his family:" We are not Arabs". I won't say anymore on this subject as I think I shouldn't discuss the status of Fatimah (as) with people whose fate in the next world is already decided.
  11. HSD wrote: 1. It's not "THE muslims", it's we Shi'a 2. Lady Fatimah (as) has titles such as Mistress of the women of all the worlds, the Virgin, the Pure One, the Blessed One,the Queen of Paradise etc...
  12. Why should Tony and Kaljug be banned from a Sikh forum for insulting Ahlul Bayt (as) if Dasam Granth already does so? If you're banning these guys you have to ban Bachitar Natak as well.Tony and Kaljug are people I appreciate because they take away the cover of political correctness that makes many people forget the way the Prophet (saws) gets insulted in Dasam Granth and in teh rest of of post 1708 literature (even though I wouln't like to reduce Sikhism to that issue).
  13. Kaljug wrote: You chose your username well I must say. Yes you know where you're going at least, you can prepare yourself for it now. Amazing how people just waste their precious souls in a few seconds by insulting Hazrat-e Fatimah (as). At least it's good to know you'll be dealt with properly in the after life.
  14. My faith is not the result of my experiences, it is the way that has been established and show by all our prophets and Imams from Adam (as) to Imam-e Zaman (ajf) though Noah (as), Abraham (as), Moses (as), David (as), Jesus (as) and Mohammad (saws). For me to have Arab ideas would mean that I am either Arab or that I was brought up in Arabic which is not the case. And just in case you wondered: Shi'ism being non-tribal is NOT an Arab religion. Next time you wish to have a go at me chose better arguments.
  15. I am perfectly calm and at peace my love thanks for caring.Suicide is haram for us so the idea of blowing myself up didn't cross my mind really and anyways the state in which Sunnis are i.e. absence of love for God's Face, is hell in and of itself.As for your rather incorrect picture of what happened 1400 years ago in Medina...I am not surprised that you reduce the Queen of all universes, who existed even before the world was created to..".an Arabni" and that you reduce the issue between Sunnis and Shi'as to a vulgar issue of zamin. After all it's the kind of realities you are used to. It would like asking a cockroach to appreciate Mozart. Your own incapacity to understand Fatimah's (as) status is your hell on earth (yes Bikramjit insulting Fatimah will get you a single ticket to hell )Trust me I am the last person on earth who will try to take you out of that hell by trying to prove to you that Shi'ism is the wa.And for your information...among the first Shi'as there were already a lot of Persians including the Sassanid regiments of Yemen who converted to Islam. Shi'ism transcends tribal consciesness but that's something you probably don't understand.And no I am not trying to prove to other Shi'as anything about my own faith.I have my own nafs to conquer and I can't care less about what other people think of me. It's Allah (swt) who will judge my deeds not other fallible human beings. Thanks for caring kisses xxx
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