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  1. Finally got to start reading Kulwant Singh's translation of Sri Gursobha. It's a milestone for me, because it's only now that I feel I can actually read the Gurmukhi original in a half decent way (as in pronunciation - the vocab is still pretty tough and unfamiliar most of the time). Thanks to all the sangat here that helped with all my amateur translation efforts over the years and gave me encouragement in learning to read my prayers (which was the main thing that made me improve my reading skills). Chatanga - big up to you for all the effort you put in with translations, especially that epic Lassi and Cha thing.
  2. Interesting from the perspective of leadership/raj-niti.
  3. This is just unreal. It claims that a member of the council might have helped broker a deal with the police to protect a paedo relative! And then people try and deny Sikh claims that the establishment are purposefully playing down or denying Sikh girls being targeted by such groomers. Jahangir Akhtar Miss Akhtar's father is Jahangir Akhtar, who quit as deputy leader of the council in 2013 and lost his seat on the council the following year. His resignation followed claims he helped broker a deal with police involving one of his relatives. The relative - gang ringleader Arshid 'Mad Ash' Hussain - was said to have agreed to hand a missing 14-year-old girl to officers at a petrol station after receiving an assurance that he would not be prosecuted. Jahangir Akhtar's resignation followed claims he helped broker a deal with police involving one of his relatives, gang ringleader Arshid Hussain (pictured) An independent inquiry led by Professor Alexis Jay found an estimated 1,400 Rotherham girls were targeted for sexual abuse by organised gangs of mostly British Pakistani men over 16 years. Four brothers who were jailed for a total of 98 years in 2016 after being convicted of 53 child sex offences against 16 girls - Arshid, Basharat, Bannaras and Sageer Hussain - are related to the Akhtars. Abuse victims helped by Rise voiced concern about the appointment. One woman, who was helped by the charity along with her sister, and who gave evidence against the Hussain brothers, said: 'I'm staggered that the charity and council didn't recognise that putting Jahangir Akhtar's daughter in that role would create a potential conflict of interest.' 'What sort of a signal does that send out to CSE survivors? How are we supposed to have any confidence that the authorities in Rotherham have learnt from the past?' The woman said Miss Akhtar's work for the charity could have given her access to information about girls and women who were groomed and sexually exploited by one or more of her relatives or their associates. Rise is believed to have informed Rotherham council of Miss Akhtar's appointment but the local authority is thought to have reported no concerns. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6811673/Daughter-councillor-implicated-Rotherham-scandal-helps-run-support-service-victims.html
  4. Yet again Guru ji has blessed us linguistically. This will help us to learn Brij Bhasha of that time. Thank you Dasmesh Pita ji, yet again.
  5. So they aren't like straight different language versions of each other? One Brij Bhasha and one Panjabi?
  6. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6811785/Shooter-opens-fire-New-Zealand-injures-four-people-witnesses-say-heard-20-shots.html My heart goes out to all the innocent victims and their families. Apnay in the diaspora need to be extra careful of security around Gurdwaras too.
  7. From Niddar's site: http://www.shastarvidiya.org/articles/tenth_warrior_guru.html
  8. Flipping 'ell. That was a revelation.....lol
  9. Ex-Liberal leader Lord Steel admits he knew Sir Cyril Smith had abused children but it 'never occurred' to him to hold an inquiry into the MP David Steel told the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse he 'assumed' Smith was guilty, after confronting him with allegations Smith did not deny He said Smith told him police had investigated the claims and taken no action Lord Steel, 80, said he had concluded 'he had no position in the matter' because the allegations predated Smith's membership of the Liberal Party Lord David Steel, who recommended Cyril Smith for his 1988 knighthood, told IICSA today that Smith all but admitted his child sexual offences to him in a 1979 conversation Sir Cyril Smith, who died in 2010, was Liberal MP for Rochdale from 1972 to 1992 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6806033/Ex-Liberal-leader-Lord-Steel-admits-knew-Sir-Cyril-Smith-abused-children.html
  10. Apparently Gursharan Kaur Jaggi (who I think is a relative/daughter of the scholar Rattan Singh Jaggi) published a version of the above. I had a look online but couldn't find it. If anyone has better luck - please do post a link to the work - it would be much appreciated. It's a very early source on Sikh ithihaas. Gurbilas Patshahi 10 - Bhai Sukha Singh edited by Dr Gursharan Kaur Jaggi - Bhasha Vibhag , Punjab - 1989
  11.  ਤੂੰ ਕਿੱਥੇ ਆਂ ਅੱਜ ਕੱਲ੍ਹ ਭਰਾਵਾ? ਨਜ਼ਰੇ ਨਹੀ ਆਉਨਦਾ? 

  12. What is it about this granth that fascinates you? In terms of vocabulary: how similar (or different) is the Brij Bhasha vocabulary of the granth compared to modern Hindi?
  13. Found this. Some pages are missing but there is enough there to give a taste of the contents. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qe6WnpbT2BkC&pg=PA180&lpg=PA180&dq=gursharan+kaur+jaggi&source=bl&ots=UGf53GS57G&sig=ACfU3U2KLfFLpE682E8VGfqlSNf9CODAig&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwitmIjl6P_gAhXiQxUIHf_zDQI4ChDoATAEegQIBhAB#v=onepage&q=gursharan kaur jaggi&f=false
  14. Found this on Honigberger. This is what happened to him afterwards: The following Latin extract is taken from the introduction of his book, Thirty five years in the East, and is inscribed on a plaque at his grave : Nulla re homo proprius accredit ad Deum quam salute hominibus danda “Nothing gets man closer to God than the help offered to his fellow man in the restoration of health”. The History of Johann Martin Honigberger Dr. Ileana Rindasu traces the history of Johann Martin Honigberger, the man who brought homeopathy to India. She honors him with a memorial plaque. M. Honigberger, the Transylvanian Saxon who is considered to be the man who brought homeopathy to India, was born on 10th of March, 1795 in Brașov (Krohnstadt), Romania (in Transylvania or Siebenbürgen, as this region is known in German). He travelled to India in 1815, with the desire to become more familiar with the secrets of nature, as he confesses in the introduction of his book, Thirty-Five Years in the East (first ed.,1851, in German; English edition, 1852; Romanian edition, 2004) ; Thus, he began a series of journeys, five to the East (Orient), three others in Europe and one to Africa that lasted altogether more than 50 years . He died in December, 18th, 1869, at the age of 74, in his native town, Brașov and was buried in the Evangelic cemetery. Transylvania or Siebenbürgen Honigberger was mainly an autodidact with a great desire to constantly improve himself. This desire motivated him to research the laws of nature so he could help patients by his skills and knowledge. The fundamental rule that every doctor should respect, said Dr. Honigberger, is: “One must, as much as possible, avoid all strong doses and administer only those that, if not beneficial, at least cannot do any harm”. This principle, in the vision of the author, can be easily respected if we know the effects of medicines, both in high doses and in small doses. Also he states : “Only minute doses can produce a real medicinal effect. If we realize that drugs administered in minute doses possess specific qualities, it is our duty to learn the principles of their use and we are obliged to abandon our principles that nurture our prejudice”. For many years, Dr. Honigberger was the physician of the Court in Lahore (Punjab, in nowadays Pakistan) for the Maharajah Ranjit Singh. Honigberger learned from his own experience as well. He treated himself successfully for cholera, in Vienna soon after he visited Hahnemann (when he took Ipecac and was cured) and for plague, in Pali, Hindustan, when he was on his way to Lahore, for the second time. That time, he took Ignatia, a remedy he had used before in Pera (Constantinopole) during the plague epidemics. Many of these aspects are well-known to the historians of medicine and of homeopathy, but usually, there is a great confusion concerning the person of Martin Johann Honigberger himself. In the literature, we find some confusion concerning his nationality. Many authors consider him to be a French doctor, while others believe he was a Hungarian. In fact, he was a Transylvanian saxon, which means he was of German origin. The Transylvanian axons (German: Siebenbürger Sachsen) are people of German ethnicity who settled in Transylvania from the 12th century onwards). The history of Romania, the country where Dr. Honigberger was born is not well-known abroad. Transylvania, the north-western part of Romania was for many centuries a part of the Austro-Hungarian empire, so many could indeed believe that Honigberger was a Hungarian. Another aspect that is unclear, is the place where Dr. Honigberger was buried. The documents (below) from the archives of the Black Church of Brasov- Kronstadt, Romania, will clarify the nationality of Dr. Honigberger and show how we discovered his grave, in the Evangelic cemetery of Brasov. In 2013, I went to Brasov, sent by the Romanian Society of Homeopathy, to see if there were any documents concerning Dr. Honigberger in the archives of the Black Church of Brasov, as we knew that he died in Brasov in 1869. Below, you can see the documents that I found in the records of the Black Church, where it is stated that Johann Martin Honigberger, doctor of the King of Lahore was buried on 20th of December 1869, at the age of 74 and that he died due to his old age: The grave is placed at position number 9 and it belonged to a member of the Kamner family, Friedrich Kamner. I tried to see what connection could be found between the Kamners and doctor Honigberger. In another register of the archives, I found a person who seemed to be Dr. Honigberger’s sister, Johanna Maria, married to Georgius Traugott Kamner, in 1819; so, we can understand why Honigberger was buried by the Kamner family when he returned to Brasov at the end of his life. After finding all this evidence that Dr. Honigberger was indeed buried in the Evangelic cemetery of the town, I went to see the place and obtained the approval of the authorities to put a memorial plaque on the grave, with an inscription in Latin, taken from the introduction of the book, Thirty five years in the East: Nulla re homo proprius accredit ad Deum quam salute hominibus danda (“Nothing gets man closer to God than the help offered to his fellow man in the restoration of health”.) Thus, the Romanian Society of Homeopathy – Societatea Romana de Homeopatie- has done its duty and paid its tribute to the Dr Johann Martin Honigberger, this extraordinary man who lived a life of service and brought the good news of homeopathy to India. We hope that now, people from all over the world and also from India will be able to come and light a candle at his grave, together with a thought of admiration for this brave Transylvanian Saxon who travelled so far away from his native land to spread the light of homeopathy in the world. May God rest Martin Johann Honigberger in peace and may our gratitude be always with him! Bibliography Arion Rosu- Sur les traces du Transylvain Martin Honigberger, médecin et voyageur en Inde. Eugen Ciurtin – Către Afganistan, din Transilvania prin Johann Martin Honigberger (1795-1869); C. Silv., 2002; http://www.academia.edu/425432/M emoriile_orientale_ale_lui_Johann_ Martin_Honigberger._Posteritate_istorica_si_actualitate_fictionala_Acta _Mvsei_Porolissensis_XXVII_2005_Liv iu Bordas Johann Martin HonigbergerTreizeci si cinci de ani in Orient, ed. Polirom, Iasi, 2004 http://fjhp.eu/articole/vol 2 No 1/2014.V2.N1.4.Rindasu - Honigberger 18-22.pdf http://hpathy.com/homeopathy-papers/the-history-of-johann-martin-honigberger/
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