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Everything posted by dalsingh101

  1. Well, if a disproportionate amount of apnay are from rural backgrounds, what does that mean in terms of overall educational levels then....... Plus I think there are cultural factors behind a lot of prominent rural castes having a strange attitude towards education/learning. If they can't make money off it, they don't see any value in it. I don't think pendus like reading either.
  2. Kds, I meet and live around desi rural Panjabis from back home. It's obvious to me that the definition of a literate person in India is very different to to the one here. If we say a pendu is literate because they can do basic reading - that is using the most fundamental interpretation of the word. In reality though, they aren't literate as in well read or knowledgable about literature in their own mother tongue. They are what we might call 'basically literate'.
  3. I don't think this is a good argument at all. I mean oppressors routinely use tokenism as a deflection from their true nature. That's like saying racist oppression of blacks doesn't take place in the US because Obama was the president and a few others have top positions.
  4. Well, what we've also seen is that the black community is at the forefront of challenging white racism. The way many apnay ignore it or are too cowardly to make it an issue even though it affects all aspects of their lives is embarrassing and backboneless. It's like they just accept their subordinate position like docile fudhus.
  5. I would agree, but what I found was that not pronouncing the silent grammatical indicators in Gurbani, can easily thrown one off and makes learning harder. That's why I would start by focusing on starting with learning the sounds of the letters and vowel symbols with simple Panjabi sentences and words which don't have the silent symbols - to consolidate that learning first. It's also usually more easier to find someone who can help you with this too. In my experience, this was simpler than starting with Gurbani first. And to be honest, when I wrote the OP, I mainly had Panjabi speakers in mind. That being said, I think one of the best ways to progress after you've got some grasp of the script (lippi) is to jump straight into Jaap Sahib with recordings - I found the slow recitation of Giani Thakur Singh especially useful for this. It's sort of jumping straight into the deep end, but if you persevere the progression is good and the repetition within that bani helps aid learning, as does the complexity. And when doing this you don't really need to focus on the actually meaning of the words, just the correct mapping of the sounds (phonemes) with symbols (graphemes).
  6. He's saying that celebrities like him don't need to speak about the issue because the streets have spoken for themselves. Also how this incident was just the straw that broke the camel's back and catalogues similar incidents that came before this.
  7. I'm not sure. Anything you can comfortably do to ramp up your metabolism after eating makes more efficient use of the food you've ingested and also speeds up the digestion process. People who do physical jobs like bricklayers, routinely do physical stuff straight after their lunch breaks and I don't think it hurts them. I've seen physical workers like roofers eat like pigs on their lunch breaks, and then jump straight into graft. And these guys are in good shape. If anything, I'd worry about that lethargic feeling we can get after eating, where we just want to lay down. I think that is a sign that you are eating wrong and you have overwhelmed your body. I sometimes do something physical after eating a heavyish meal just to combat that. This way, your body is more likely to utilise nutrients instead of storing them as fat. Though, what you are saying about eating shortly after training is true also. You have to get a good sense of your own metabolism.
  8. Well, they say that others often benefit from their sacrifices more than they do. There is some justification of African-Americans saying that some other nonwhite communities stay silent about the disproportionate focus white racists give blacks, and quietly continue to benefit in the white establishment, and only ever jump on the bandwagon when they themselves feel threatened. What sacrifices do you think Sikhs made in the past that everyone else benefited from? Taking down the Moghuls? Yeah, but they can also serve to distract from the specific issues black people are trying to bring in focus, that specifically affect their own community more than others. How's Cali btw? Plus, I've been wanting to ask - have you ever seen a tarantula in the wild out there?
  9. Bro, do you know many groomers have got away with it for decades! It's been the police protecting them.
  10. I should add: I have heard from certain black people I know, that they feel some resentment that the frontlining they have done in confronting racism, benefits others who don't make the sacrifices they make. Also cultural appropriation is an issue. Like we have BLM and others jump on the wagon after it gets a successful profile with their own copycat slogans like SLM.
  11. This isn't about rewriting history, it's about acknowledging the truth about certain evil characters and recognising them for what they were, instead of glorifying them as some sort of icons.
  12. I disagree brother. Having a green tea after meals is great for digestion, and so is having a decent walk (i.e. not just once around the block). A half decent walk after food essentially speeds up your metabolism and uses up some of the converted energy of the meal, which reduces the amount that might float about and get stored as churbhee. It also helps combat that feeling of sluggishness that you can feel after a meal.
  13. And this was only one of hundreds including 'soldiers'.......
  14. I think this one alludes to military/political strategy/tactics. Note the framework of devtay and daints representing forces of positivity and negativity. Here the two brothers are invincible and cause the devtay much suffering. This bit is significant for framing. Despite the austerities they performed for gaining their power, they become indifferent to everyday folk (ਲੋਕਨ) and even kill devtay (Bindra seems to confuse devtay with lokhaan for some reason and doesn't cover the nuance?) ਮਹਾ ਰੁਦ੍ਰ ਤੇ ਜਬ ਬਰੁ ਪਾਯੋ ॥ ਸਭ ਲੋਕਨ ਚਿਤ ਤੇ ਬਿਸਰਾਯੋ ॥ After obtaining such a boon they ignored all the people. ਜੋ ਕੋਊ ਦੇਵ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਮੈ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਜਿਯ ਲੈ ਕੇ ਫਿਰ ਜਾਨ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ॥੩॥ Now if they came across any devil [wrong translation, it should be god not devil/demon], that would not go away alive.(3) ਐਸੀ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਬਹੁਤ ਦੁਖ ਦਏ ॥ ਦੇਵ ਸਭੈ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਪੈ ਗਏ ॥ All this caused a great commotion and all the people went to Brahma, the Creator. We've had a lot of references to folktales and traditional Indic tales in this run of chariters, here Vishkarma is introduced. The inference is design, planning, crafting strategy - and Vishkarma creates a beautiful women, on the orders of Brahma to deal with these invincible brothers. They are described as ਹੰਕਾਰੀ. The strategy works. By manipulating their pride (ਹੰਕਾਰ) they are made to attack each other. Here I think the attractive female that is sent to the demons represents a divide and conquer strategy. Again, we have a lot of reference to weaponry and battlefield action which link the chariter to military strategies. It alludes to: divide and conquer a more powerful adversary, by employing a strategy that appeals to their pride and causes them to have conflict. Notice the similarity between the framework here, and that of Chandhi kee vaar. In both the devtay are overpowered by the daints, and in both they appeal to higher gods for help. Here, the devtay receive a tool that causes the brothers to destroy themselves without having to employ their own forces; in the Chandhi narratives devtay are actually given a tool to help fight the demons on the battlefield itself in the form of Chandi, who also manifests/metamorphs into Kali as the battle scene changes (i.e. rakhat beej joining the fray).
  15. I get a feeling that they are at home, sipping on a glassy, and then they post when they are 'on one'. They know they've messed up by how they delete the post when they sober up...... lol
  16. Certain people need to stop f**king about and ruining this important thread with outbursts.
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