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  1. Is this serious? I didn't think the Khalistan thing was much of an issue in the diaspora these days?
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    5 Pyare: selected by the Guru?

    I don't know bro. I love science and I think tech can actually help connect to the dharam (like with this forum). I guess these things are just like shasters in that they can be used for good or evil depending on the user?
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    Sajjan Kumar Gets Life Term In '84 Riots

    How long has this saga gone on for. Waheguru help the victims and their families recover from this evil.
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    Modern day Charitrio Pakyaan?

    Seriously, with this type of stuff actually going on in real life around us, can we really characterise (even the most shocking tales of) CP as unrealistic or sensationalist? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6459407/Pictured-Male-lover-killer-pharmacist-planned-new-life.html
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    Sarbloh Granth

    Why was that then? You ready to jump in now?
  6. It's in your face bhai ji. I've been through Ilford a few times and have seen these faces getting plastered on the street in broad daylight. You could tell some of them are in the advance stages of alcohol poisoning. I bet some of them accrued big debts to get here and that might play a part in them avoiding going back home too. There are big psychological issues going on here, just getting them off the street and away from booze won't cut it. I think their self-belief has been knocked into oblivion, that's why they have learned helplessness. It's sad, that whilst we (as a community) routinely go overboard with wedding expenses in that area (and we have had big nagar kirtans nearby too) we have people dying of the cold under our noses. What is this thing about apnay in that they have weird, funky stuff going on right under their noses and they act oblivious? F***ing weird? Despite the pakhaand maybe no real sense of samaj maybe?
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    Sikhs in World War I

    I'd say be really careful. A good percentage of books on this topic basically seem to regurgitate colonialist propaganda of the time without too much reflection on context, and riding over alternative voices as somehow seditious. Ommisi's book is very good - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Indian-Voices-Great-War-1914-1918/dp/B00XV40UMK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1543599606&sr=8-2&keywords=David+Omissi and this new one may offer a better long term perspective of the thinking of some of the soldiers involved:. The Indian Empire at War: From Jihad to Victory, the Untold Story of the Indian Army in the First World War by George Morton-Jack is priced £22 and available at guardianbookshop.com https://www.amazon.co.uk/Indian-Empire-At-War-Victory/dp/1408707691/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543599227&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Indian+Empire+at+War
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    Vivek Pradipika

    Does anyone know if the book in the OP has the original Gurmukhi text?
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    Japji Sahib English translation

    Is he the scientific guy who was interpreting Japji Sahib along scientific lines? If so, where can I find his work?
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    Sarbloh Granth

    It's only trying to improve my knowledge and language skills mate. You can find most of mine in the Literature section of this forum.
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    Sarbloh Granth

    @chatanga1 I don't know Sanskrit like that! Okay, we'll split it up in half and I'll type up half and you can type up the other half? I can tell this is going to get deep into Indic mythology and allegory btw (well I think it will).
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    What do you think about giani thakur singh

    What's going on here? More covert gandu-punh?
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    Sarbloh Granth

    'Brushing up' I don't know any. I think maybe we should start by typing the whole thing out first? Looks like we are going to be sticking the majority of words in search engines for a start. Give us some context too. Why did you choose this particular section for focus. Any particular reasons?
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    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    Have you managed to cut these things down from time to time?
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    Battling Addiction with Gurbani

    I haven't battled myself, but seen a few guys go through it. What are we talking about here? Class A stuff?
  16. Very interesting video about the chief medical researcher on cannabis chemistry. I think it goes a long way in helping understand why our ancestors used cannabinoids.
  17. Treating a child with tourettes with THC: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6398341/Cannabis-oil-halts-tics-eight-year-old-Tourettes.html
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    Sarbloh Granth

    Looks intimidating. Have to psyche myself up for it. It'll give us something to do over xmas. Any particular strategies you want to employ for the endeavour?
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    Letters Of Indian Soldiers Of World War 1

    They say you never stop learning..... I first posted this over 7 years ago, and in all honesty (I can now say) I don't think I really grasped certain implications of what I read back then. If you analyse the above extract it really paints a sad picture that illustrates the dynamics and realities of imperialism outside of propaganda. Look at this 'Zaildar'. The poor guy had just lost his infant daughter. He appears to be suicidal: "If my life would depart, that would be the best solution of the difficulty!" Despite this, his superiors are ruthlessly riding him in this obviously distressing time and demanding that he enlists even more men for the war effort despite his personal loss, threatening to remove his livelihood if he fails. Really heartless.
  20. I picked up a very interesting book called ‘Indian voices of the great war: Soldiers’ letters, 1914-18’ by David Omissi, who works at the University of Hull (Dept. of History and Centre for Indian Studies). It contains the contents of letters sent by (and to) soldiers from the then undivided Indian subcontinent during the first world war. These have been translated in English from the original languages/scripts in which they were transcribed (mainly Gurmukhi, Urdu, Hindi with some other occasional variations like Bengali). These letters are extant because the texts passed through British censorship, which was concerned with (and keeping an eye open for) potential disaffection amongst the Indian soldiery at the time. The book is useful as a tool to help us understand the motivations and concerns of the soldiers involved. The letters are presented chronologically by date and there are 657 in total, being of varying lengths and from soldiers of diverse backgrounds. It is not uncommon to hear lamentation that whilst we have plenty of white soldiers accounts relating to this conflict, we don’t have corresponding texts written from the perspectives of the brown men that were present. The book helps fill this gap to an extent. The following is based on its introductory essay which (amongst other things), describes the nature of recruitment at the time. This may (at least partially) help explain the aforementioned scarcity of narratives from the brown side: “How were the letters written? It is clear some men wrote or addressed their own letters, but the vast majority of letters were probably written by scribes on behalf of their senders, since most Indian Army soldiers were illiterate. In the Punjab at this time no more than 5 percent of the population could read; among rural military communities, however literacy was would have been very much less, since the British deliberately recruited from the least educated segments of the rural population, who were thus least effected by ‘dangerous’ Western political ideas. Indeed, some of the letters contain explicit references to the ‘writer’s’ own illiteracy, while others refer to scribes.” A wounded soldier dictating a letter. Whilst it must be borne in mind that certain restraining factors would have influenced what was being divulged in these communications (awareness of censorship being an obvious factor), they still provide valuable insights into the thoughts and situations of the soldiers even with these limitations. Some of the letters that were sent by soldiers were indeed ‘suppressed’ by the censors and the criteria for the said suppression included: “incitements to crime, and even murder; accounts of sex with white women, which were seen as damaging to white prestige; particularly distressing letters from men who had been badly disabled by wounds; letters which were flagrantly dishonest, mentioned drugs or included slighting references to whites; and accounts from prisoners of war of receiving good treatment from Germans, which might have encouraged desertion. In each case, either the offending passage was deleted or the offending passage was deleted or the entire letter was destroyed.” The picture emerging from the self referencing included in texts reveals communities conspicuously stratified along both religious and caste lines. When we consider the impact of the by then firmly entrenched ‘martial races theory’ used by the British to categorise and organise the soldiers of the ‘jewel of the crown’, it’s difficult to tell just how far these identity constructs were truly reflective of pre-colonial self-identifications (that had carried over from that time) or whether the policies introduced by the imperial administration played a large part in moulding the self perceptions? The opportunity is open for future research to delve into this matter through comparison with pre annexation texts, which could prove useful in trying to establish earlier Khalsa attitudes towards this now thorny issue and how exogenous British ideas may have altered the previously prevailing perceptions. In theory, this could help shed some light onto the argument that British policies influenced the nature of the caste system as existent amongst Panjabi Sikhs today. A general pattern emerges from the letters with the exhilaration exhibited prior to battles and immediately after early conflicts giving way to ‘sighs of resignation’ and ‘despair’ as time progressed. Interestingly the narrator of the book mentions that only the Mahsuds (a Pathan people of NWFP) seem to have been unaffected in this way. Some letters later give warnings to relatives and friends to stay away from the war and avoid enlisting. Not surprisingly the cold European weather seemed to have a particular effect in lowering morale. It is suggested that this was the cause for eventually removing infantry soldiers from this front and redeploying them to the more familiar climes of the Middle East. Those that did remain in Europe where attached to the cavalry it seems and saw significantly less intense action than their infantry compatriots had previously. This coupled with the fact that instructions were explicitly given by commanders to discourage writing what could be deemed as despondent, means that the accounts in later letters do not contain as many despair tinged references as before. This was, of course, the dawn of modern mechanised warfare as we know it today, characterised by remote mass destruction; something that would have come as a shock to even previously battle hardened foot soldiers. Whilst Muslims equated the battles to Karbala, Hindus used the analogy of Mahabharat to describe the mass carnage they were witnessing. Interestingly Sikhs had no such previous conflict which they used in similar comparative terms. Some letters acknowledge the receipt of religious material such as Korans and the Guru Granth Sahib. As could be expected, faith played a big part in the lives of those facing death on a constant basis. It would however be a mistake to think of these soldiers in strictly puritan terms and mention is made of a certain erosion of ‘religious orthodoxies’. Some letters make brief references to sexual relationships between the soldiers and the indigenous females of Europe for instance. As could be expected after the earlier experience of the mutiny, the imperial hierarchy were keen to avoid a repetition of such a scenario and strove to meet the religious dietary requirements of the soldiers. A photo of Sikhs dispatching some goats’ jhatka style is provided (see attachment to post). Interestingly, Sikhs and Hindus shared a common space for slaughtering animals, whilst Muslims had their own separate location. The matter of later recruitment in Panjab is touched upon and it appears as if there were some difficulties in this area. The book describes the scenario (somewhat shockingly) as follows: “From the autumn of 1916, various forms of coercion were also used to secure recruits. The Government of India discussed conscription, but preferred to employ informal methods of compulsion, especially in Punjab. For example, Indian officials were told to produce a given quota of men on pain of losing their posts if they failed. Some men were simply kidnapped, or their womenfolk held hostage until the men enlisted. After the war, the authoritarian Governor of the Punjab, Michael O’Dwyer, was even accused of using ‘terrorist methods’ to find recruits. He fought and won a libel case over the phrase, but there remained no doubt that forcible recruitment was widely resented.“ Michael O'Dwyer (Note that the aforementioned General O’Dwyer was later assassinated by Udham Singh in London in 1940 in retaliation for the Jallianwala Bagh massacre). Overall the book is invaluable for those interested in Indian involvement in the first world war and helps shed light onto many aspects of the conflict in relation to the people who traveled to a far off continent to fight in a foreign war. It provides a thought provoking window into the relationship between the colonised and the colonisers.
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    Letters Of Indian Soldiers Of World War 1

    A lot about WW1 soldiers in the media these days. So I thought I'd bump this old thread up.
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    Japji Sahib English translation

    Good to see you back. Glad to hear you are well sis!
  23. I should add. It may be that some of the chariters about Shah Jehan might be from Bahar Danesh.
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    What do you think about giani thakur singh

    I think Giani Thakur Singh is one the best orators of katha we've had in a long while. I do think he needs to exercise much more and lose weight though. His weight problem seems to be getting worse and worse. I learnt more about santhiya from listening to his audios than anyone else. As for trying to kiss a women. I'm confused about this. Yes, it's wrong for a married man to do this, but in the context of all the other gundh and greed that goes on around us (including in our panth), I actually find it hard to think this is something major. Distasteful - yes. But we've seen apnay do a lot worse.
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