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  1. I agree we should listen to guru jis "commands"..

    Kesh is part of guru jis "commands" henceforth iam not a sikh.

    But i hope those same people who follow guru jis "commands" (nudge nudge wink wink) follow gurus jis commands of being compassionate, seeing god in all, not replacing virtue with relegious garms,etc etc.

    Waheguru ji ka khalsa,

    Waheguru ji ki fateh!

  2. Well this is where im confused tableji..

    I dont beleive to be a sikh you have to be an amrit dhari..

    Maybe im wrong..but i find it hard to beleive that amrit gives "salvation"..i find it hard to beleive that the same guru who abolished the whole idea of there being a priestly caste, would say to reach god you have to go through the panj pyarai..that sounds really bad i know, and i hope i dont cause anyone offence..but hey, i gotta ask these question or i'll never learn..

    Also, where does that leave the likes of banda singh bahader? Or indeed the bhagats who contributed to the guru granth sahib? Were they amrit dhari? If they werent elightened beings, then why do we bow to them? Cant the same truth which pervaded their hearts and minds exist in the khalsa, and vice versa? Doesnt that then void the need for amrit..? Ok im going off topic (the point of this paragraph was to just emphasize that one can reach spiritual heights without being khalsa.)

    Also, when guru gobind singh ji compiled the guru granth sahib (or made baba deep singh write four copies i think it was) why then didnt guru ji in gurbani explicitly state that the gurus sikh has to take amrit..? the only hukkamnama i can remember which defines a gursikh is "he who calls himself a sikh of the guru, should rise at the ambrosial hours and contemplate on gods name"..

    At the end of the day, what narsingha said is true..im going to justify my actions by asking these questions..and ur going to refute them because u dont want destabilise what u beleive in..so try and be nice :D

  3. Thank you for all the posts, but without sounding rude, this topic has kinda lost the plot!

    I wasnt asking whether amrit is important or not, i was asking whether it is a requirement (or logical) for a non amrit dhari to keep the kesh (unless they plan to take amrit in the near future)??

    I remember stumbling across a rehitnama (cant remember which one) in which guru ji says, he who keeps the apperance of a khalsa, without taking amrit is an imposter.

    ???

    Amrit, of course is so important..otherwise guru ji wouldnt have knelt down and asked for it..but im asking where i stand in the sikh faith (when i do have alot of love for the teachings) when im an aspiring musician ("Pop" music) who will go to clubs,etc..i dont have a problem with these things, but as a kesh dhari, i know im going to get alot of negativity..sure, im getting it now, but no one sees me as relegious anymore so im not getting it from the people whos opinion means more to me i.e. people who live in the service of god.

    And amrik singh, this isnt for the birds lol

  4. Cheating as in hanky panky with someone else (in your mind.)

    A naughty magazine, x rated videos, or a bhangra video are all examples where one may get "aroused".

    Im not saying these thoughts are "wrong" but if a person, for e.g. me, is having these thoughts, then im not really in a position to talk about people being unfaithful physically..or maybe im chatting breeze :LOL:

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