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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Premi in Sympathetic?   
    I'm guessing some Sikhs have shanka - doubts over sikhi to the point they don't even believe in those kurbanis (acts of sacrifice/martyrdom) because there are instances of miracles and the super natural makes people doubt the entire thing, like Baba Deep Singh picking up his own head to fight.
    But with that there have been Sikhs who have been beheaded in Pakistan and Afghanistan recently, perhaps people put that down to minor disputes, not one my caste/relative. Perhaps people are wrapped around the media so much that if the mainstream media don't cover Sikhs being killed in Afghanistan it never happened for them, but at the same time we don't hear about the beatings the taliban give to other muslims like lashing going on.

    Maybe Sikh history is depressing and you can get away from it but getting away from mainstream media is hard, but with many media stories they get forgotten about over time, current affairs don't always make it to the history lessons of tomorrow.

    Perhaps due to some sikhs feeling xenophobia/racism/contempt as of late due to mistaken identity with islamists and increase in coverage of islamist atrocities, many people want an apology from those with the islamist kin, we can't always separate ourselves from other humans and some people just have businesses, careers, education relationships to maintain and build and it's easier to say sorry for something you have nothing to do with or have relation with then to actually explain that you have nothing to do with it. I think many "Asiatic" religions have been brushed over to be branches of islamism at the moment by some less than affluent folk who have become a vocal minority.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Premi in Weight Loss Program   
    start taking long walks
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Premi in Sikh Girl That 'converted' To Islam And Involved In Anti Sikh Propaganda   
    If no one can judge islam then how did you judge it to be the best religion and how did you judge it to mean peace?
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Arsh1469 in Hunting.   
    I think without me doing enough research into it, the pro-vegetarian shabads are human right, women rights, animal rights and eco environmental right shabads and on other virtues like honest and integrity instead.

    As per hunting there are different reasons, such as violent animals attacking innocent people Lions, Tigers, bears, killing innocent villagers, innocent children being eaten alive by wild beasts and attacking Sikhs. For game meat since other more suitable humbler foods were not at easy to get (which is an animal right issue more so), as well as sakhis of people being liberated, such as Mallu Khatri, it had been said Guru Nanak in his later jama (vessel) would later give him liberation after he died, he did alot of sewa but became rapped in ego, Guru Gobind Singh shot a wild animal which showed it's self to be Mallu Khatri to Sikhs.

    But considering the lineage of the early Sikhs documented in Maharaja Ranjti Singh's time it seems more of them were hunters who ate meat, like the Patialla family, the Akali Nihangs, Ranjit Singh - the pro-vegg argument is that is all propoganda or they corrupted Sikhi, they were not following the truth. I say look at the not so pro-veggeterian shabads and ask why

    One of the most pro-vegetarian Sikhs, Baba Nand Singh sat on a lion skin in many of his photos- I wonder why if he felt passionate about not harming animals.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Singh2022 in Tribal Identity And Sikhi   
    I think gurus gave their ancestry so people wouldn't try create doubt about them and bani by writing out nonsense, had the gurus not written their ancestry brahmins could have said guru nanak was a brahmin and he taught brahmin mat, many illiterate sikhs would adopt brahminism or people might say they were of low caste and people might in a sense of overwhelming pride not feel courage in such a lower spirtual state to bow and follow such a guru, it shouldn't matter but for some in a primal spirtual state it matters.

    We have people saying the gurus were muslims, some have written stuff about guru nanak converting his family to islam his wife being muslim, his sister being muslim etc. and we have the source ourselves to disprove it we have the janamsakhis and dasam granth to counter act that and ask the proof of those claims for which none exists. Our gurus taught many things we question but I feel the gurus in trying to create begumpura tried to destroy the caste system and allow others to marry.

    Maharaja Ranjit Singh was open to the concept of marrying out of castes, some sikhs have married out of castes and it will carry on. As for the gurus carrying about legacy if caste, ancestry was so important, guru nanak would have given gurgaddi to his sons and guru gobind singh would have not let his sons be shaheed and allowed other sikhs to have instead.

    Class and caste are different things but do meet sometimes, caste determines your occupation and respect in accordance to what your ancestors where. I don't think a doctors son should be a doctor he should study to be one and if he fails better then him killing patients. In India a hakeem-veds son is a hakeem-ved and you can see how silly some of the things hakeems say are even in accordance to hakeem-mat the knowledge of those herbal doctors is ruined by those who don't understand it. Additionally had the caste system remained intact mughal rule would have never ended one up the mughals had was how their casteless system allowed the best minds to thrive in a capitalistic way to provide better technology, information, architecture, academia. The shackles of the caste system only bind people downwards.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Arsh1469 in ~~ Maharaj Ranjit Singh-Shere Punjab Rule ~~   
    I don't think certain internet websites do enough justice to maharaja ranjit singh and give oversimplified views of his whole life. Rather it is books which seem to detail his life better. Here are a collection of ebooks which explore maharaja ranjit singh with those answers

    Ranjit Singh - Griffin, Lepel Henry, Sir, 1840-1908
    https://archive.org/details/ranjitsingh00grif

    Maharaja Ranjit Singh - His Image and Influence At Home And Abroad Prof. (Dr.) Harnam Singh Shan Tract No. 513 - Prof. (Dr.) Harnam Singh Shan
    https://archive.org/details/MaharajaRanjitSingh-HisImageAndInfluenceAtHomeAndAbroad

    Soldier and traveller: memoirs of Alexander Gardner, colonel of artillery in the service of Maharaja Ranjit Singh - Gardner, Alexander [Haughton Campbell], 1785-1877. [from old catalog] https://archive.org/details/soldierandtrave00peargoog
    Origin of the Sikh power in the Punjab and political life of Maharaja Ranjit Singh ; with an account of the religion, laws, and customs of Sikhs (1834) https://archive.org/details/originofsikhpowe00prinuoft
    Ranjit Síngh and the Sikh barrier between our growing empire and Central Asia; - Griffin, Lepel Henry, Sir, 1840-1908 https://archive.org/details/ranjitsinghsikh00grif
    The Sikhs and Afghans, in connexion with the India and Persia, immediately before and after the death of Ranjeet Singh: from the journal of an expedition to Kabul through the Panjab and the Khaibar Pass - Shahamat Ali https://archive.org/details/sikhsafghansinco00shahrich The court and camp of Runjeet Sing - Osborne, William Godolphin, Lord, 1804-1888 https://archive.org/details/courtcampofrunje00osboiala A history of the reigning family of Lahore, with some account of the Jummoo rajahs, the Seik soldiers and their sirdars; with notes on Malcolm, Prinsep, Lawrence, Steinbach, McGregor, and the Calcutta Review - Smyth, George Carmichael https://archive.org/details/historyofreignin00smyt

    Origin [!] of the Sikh Power in the Punjab, and Political Life of Muha-raja Runjeet Singh: With ... - Henry Thoby Prinsep https://archive.org/details/originsikhpower00pringoog
    The history of the Sikhs; containing the lives of the Gooroos; the history of the independent Sirdars, or Missuls, and the life of the great founder of the Sikh monarchy, Maharajah Runjeet Singh; (Volume 1) - M'Gregor, William Lewis https://archive.org/details/historysikhscon00gregoog The court and camp of Runjeet Sing - Osborne, William Godolphin, Lord, 1804-1888 https://archive.org/details/courtandcamprun00osbogoog Here is one in french with some old sketches you might be able to use an online translator on the text version to get it into english
    Origine et progrès de la puissance des Sikhs dans le Penjab, et histoire du ... - Henry Thoby Prinsep , Xavier Raymond , William Murray 1836 https://archive.org/details/origineetprogrs00murrgoog
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Premi in How Did You Learn Punjabi   
    From watching bhangra videos and watching punjabi movies + tv which was sometimes painful to watch but insightful plus mixing in bollywood movies which had subtitles which share similar punjabi words

    Tried to learn the script, and found punjabi class dead boring so dropped out
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Premi in Gurmantar Or Mool Mantar?   
    Gurmantar or MoolMantar? The one which is more important, powerful and should be stuck to shouldn't be done in terms of quantity but quality, which one you invoke with love and passion more. Besides you also got to look at the time factor gurmantar is quicker to do.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Premi in Shahid Afridi's Comments On Sikhs   
    Girl tempted him into being racist. Guess singhs are not going to be his fans anymore.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from GurjantGnostic in Hazrat Mohhamed Sahib And Nanak Nirankar   
    muhammad is no one. He didn't have any revelation of the great Guru Nanak dev ji. The false prophet named Muhammad had other last words which was inclusive of zeal of the cult he had formed in his lifetime. Muhammad died a slow and painful death followed by poisoning, who poisoned him is argued between either his child bride aisha or his jewish concubine whose husband muhammad had killed before taking her to his bed on the same day.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Jageera in Sikh Girl That 'converted' To Islam And Involved In Anti Sikh Propaganda   
    Usually when muhammden women run away people don't announce it or make web pages, people stay humble so more of them can run away
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Jageera in Sikh Girl That 'converted' To Islam And Involved In Anti Sikh Propaganda   
    It's prohibited besides we see muslims praying to the dead in india anyway. Some sikhs have fallen for muhammden propoganda that some dead muhammaden will grant them health or other worldly stuff, all of Mo's powers are backwash compared to the power of bacon.


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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Jageera in Sikh Girl That 'converted' To Islam And Involved In Anti Sikh Propaganda   
    Simple to reconcile that pedophilla is an invention of the west in the last 100 years (ignoring the science behind the advances it underlining the problem of it), justify it with skewed history of people young but not as relatively young marrying. Which as an argument goes to then show that muhammdenism is an outdated religion which didn't stand the test of time till the end of times as it claims, and muhammad isn't perfect so it's claims are all bogus.

    Explain freedom of speech doesn't exist hence capital punishment is justifiable, explain how torture is a great deterrent for crime (while shariah seems to make the criminals the ones who become incharge and immune), explain how blasphemy is the equivalent of treason in the "peaceful" muhammden state so people who go against muhammdenism have to die. And have absolutely no proof for all these bogus claims while romanticising things like muhammads rule and the Ottoman rule to be the best rule ever when in fact they were the worst rules in the entire history of humanity, it makes babloyan look far better.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Jageera in Sikh Girl That 'converted' To Islam And Involved In Anti Sikh Propaganda   
    If no one can judge islam then how did you judge it to be the best religion and how did you judge it to mean peace?
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Soulfinder in 2012, Golden Age, Aquarius Age, World War, Khalsa Raj Etc.   
    Has anyone read Gur Bilas granth by Sukha singh recording sakhi of guru gobind singh and khalsa raj where he told singhs to take over the world but they only cared for punjab so he said later on they will take over the world.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Jageera in Sikh-Muslim Couple Gets Cover   
    Problem is simple, it's the nanaksari lie of all religions are exactly the same. All religions aren't the same, they should be tolerated and respected but aren't equivalent, it is miseducation and misinformation about understanding other religions. It's also how we blame ourselves for 1947 creation of pakistan, killing riots etc. And we teach an apologetic version of history. Regardless of how strict we get why is it that there is a whole group of gooris who don't fall for this stuff?

    So it seems we can be liberal and maintain an identity, with many jews they seem to have a better handle on interfaith marriages, and are far liberal even more than sikhs aswell as being a smaller population. Many jewish men and women have their partner convert for them. It may have something to do with the lack of pride women have of being a Sikh. As well as the difference in social circles for men and women.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from wjkkwjkf in Royal Mail Under Investigation For Racist Letter Graffiti Aimed At Sikh   
    His grammar is off he forgot the "of my country"
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Koi in The Pythagoreans   
    triangle worshippers
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from jaikaara in Anti Sikh Articlle In Guradian Uk During Partition   
    The british stirred up the riots in partition they put everyone against each other, we have sources now telling us they put pigs infront of mosques and cow heads in front of mandirs. They turned sikhs against muslims both fighting people went on a killing spree that went to the millions. Muslims took women converted and or raped them in the millions, sikhs and hindus took revenge and some raped muslim women, kidnapped some converted them, more revenge followed it was a blood spree everywhere. Nehru, Gandhi, Jinaah and the British watched each party went to there own power, money and so forth while humanity killed itself, people lost homes and businesses, hatred was left in there hearts. These are the stories of our grandparents we hear as 2nd, 3rd, 4th generations from that as time goes on we will all end up forgetting such events perhaps we will not exist with time.
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Crystal in Did Banda Bahadur Take Amrit Khanda Da Pahul?   
    How about currency from Banda Singh Bahadur's rule of Sahrind/Sirhind. It is said he established the nanakshahi coin when his rule started he ruled as a king but gave glory to akali baba satguru nanak dev ji.

    https://www.panjabmall.com/storeproduct386.aspx


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    Genie Singh reacted to Guest in Dr Gurnam Singh Highlighting Issues Including Extremism Issues Within Uk Sikh Community   
    Thanks Jathedar ji, we were talking about massand story on this topic..would appreciate your input:


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    Genie Singh got a reaction from sukrit kaur in Do Miracles Happen?   
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    Genie Singh got a reaction from Koi in This Pisses Me Off   
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    Genie Singh reacted to dalsingh101 in Old Gurmukhi Scriptures   
    So why don't you try and offer a translation then?

    Addition: I just checked the original text again - from what I can see there is no way that isn't
    ਭਉ



    How do you make it bhav????

    I've attached the page and underlined the word, incase you're looking at something else?

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    Genie Singh reacted to dalsingh101 in Old Gurmukhi Scriptures   
    Interesting fragment from 10004:

    The first sentence is a fragment, couldn't make the start out: Here's a quick bash at translation -

    ਓਅੰਕਾਰ ਓਅੰਸੋਰਾਰਾ ਭਉ ਸਾਧੋ ਕਰੋ ਬਿਚਾਰਾ। The saints deliberate on fearing Oankar Oansorara(?) Now it starts rhyming: ਸਾਧੋ ਕਰੋ ਬਿਚਾਰਉ ਲਿਟ ਘਰ ਅਪਨੇ ਆਵੋ। The saints preach that we should come home and lie down ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਅਨੂਪ ਸਮਟ ਕਰਤ ਹਸ਼ਮਵੋ। Brahm gathers rare laughter within hearts ਚਾਰ ਬੇਦ ਕਾ ਭੇਦੁ ਹੈ ਗੀਤਾ ਕਾ ਹੈ ਜੀਓ। Is the mystery of the four vedas; the understanding of the gita ਨਾਨਕ ਦਾਸ ਲਖੈ ਆਪ ਕਉ ਤੌ ਮੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਪੀਉ। The slave of Nanak knows to himself; that's why I am your beloved ਸਭ ਜੋਗਨ ਮੈ ਜੌਗ ਸਭ ਗਿਆਨਨ ਕੋ ਗਿਆਨ। The yogi of all yogas, the knower of all knowledge ਸਭ ਸਿਧਨ ਕੋ ਸਿਧ ਹੈ ਤਤ ਸੋਰਨ ਕੋ ਧਿਆਨ। The Siddh of all Siddhs, ???? ਬ੍ਰਹਮਗਿਆਨ ਕੋ ਜਪ(?)


    Interesting speculation: at the mo (to me), it appears to be some devotional work that isn't Gurbani. It's obviously heavily influenced by Sikh religious poetry. It seems to be some poets devotional composition.
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