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As far as I realize, in the early stages- we should keep Gurmantar/Shabad at the forefront.
I always kept, or tried to keep the main dhyan on the gurmantar and jap.
Initially, I probably tried to ignore them because at that point I didn't have much understanding...but I always thought that waheguru knows I'm trying to jap, so he must be putting them there for some reason.
But you should acknowledge them and not let them digress you away from gurmantar.

Later, the sounds start to get captivating and magnetic, and they begin to pull you in deeper.

I think that one should do as much mental and silent jap as possible, with the sounds in the background.
Then you get to a stage where you make the mental adjustment to focus on the sound more, while at the same time, the silent jap is still happening.
Correlating the jap with breath and keeping your focus there to start with, is probably the easiest way to master this.


1st)- Get regular jap going- normal vocal, whisper, slight whisper to Silent.-OR -sometimes you may be ale to go straight into silent without doing any vocal or whisper.
2)-Then, keep focus on breath, whilst keeping mental jap going by doing ''wahe' on inhale and ''Guru'' on exhale.
3)- Make the breaths equal and try and keep that empty pause in between as Sat describes above.
This is when the naad should begin to be heard more clearer and louder.
4) Slow down the breath and imagine as if you are trying to go deep inside your own chest and heart.
5) Try and maintain this whilst listening to the shabad and you should find that the breathing gets quieter and quieter, while the breaths get longer.
6) Just keep trying to get inwards, deeper and deeper until you feel completely formless.

Absolute stillness and quietness is the key, whilst sitting comfortably.
Once I got settled and familiar in this method, I started trying to focus in between eyebrows, mental jap and listening to dhun at the same time !....But, I'm not sure if this was right approach or not, but it seemed like the appropriate route to take at the time.

Both of these books were the first one's I read some time back and well before any anhad experiences.
However, the dasam duar book left me confused since it differentiated between yogic sounds and gurmat sounds????
Now, that I do kundalini yoga, i perceive things much differently.
For quite some time my preconceived ideas about this whole sound/light matter were off tangent to the reality
The bandginama is a good book and covers most areas but doesn't go into too much details of jugtiees, techniques..etc.-which is probably why I never went back to it again. He has outlined the stages of simran and i deduce that I'm running around somewhere on the 2nd stage, although not in any solid order.
It's these stages that sometimes also confuse me, because at times I feel like that everything should be done in sequence and then other times I feel that I should proceed according to where I feel my ''personal comfort zone'' is.
They say that our thoughts are defined as either ''sequential' or 'cluster ' thoughts.
Majority are usually sequential where we get a thought because one had led to the other,, such as....We may think about an old friend because we had once watched some movie with them and then that particular movie got mentioned and we remembered the time when we watched it, and this leads to us thinking about that person, his family,his wedding..etc...
OR.... we start thinking about some one, some event every time we have a certain food, just because it triggers a certain event in the past where this food was being made or eaten...etc.....etc...-I think you get the idea ?
These are more than 80% of our thoughts that our mind initiates and processes itself following some worldly action.
On the other hand, 'Cluster' thoughts are just random, out of nowhere thoughts that fly in from all angles.
They say that these thoughts should be paid attention to since it is the subconscious or divine letting you know something ??
All the greats/enlightened one's like Einstein, Pythagoras et al ....had massive percentages of cluster thoughts.
Anyway, I have recently noticed that i seem to be getting more and more cluster thoughts every day, but i'm not getting any smarter !
Maybe, it's the deep meditation and being more aware in the moment when going inwards?
I'm not trying to go off topic, but I think that if you take notice of some of these cluster thoughts then you may know what step to take next and whether it is the appropriate one for you.
I think at this 2nd stage of simran, there is no direct sequence of if you taste amrit ras first, then hear anhad naad, hear different melodies, be capable of ajapa jap, feel intense electrifying unexplainable anand,..vibrations around chakras...etc....etc..
I reckon they all happen in your own personal customised clusters or sequences by HIS kirpa and grace.
This is unlike the 1st stage where steps are taken in sequence with the jugtees that suit you like starting with baikhri jap,then madhma,.pasanti,..silent mental jap..etc..etc..

Good work

Well, I hope this wakes up a few of those sons of the mother-in-law's.
These sons that obey and follow every rule and decision made by their dear holy mother............these guys need to wake up and realise what is going on in the mind of the poor girl.

Solid question. Have a look at some posts in the previous topic below.
If still not sure, then ask further questions here.
A few key points are that Naam cannot be described to understand it, because it is has to be experienced to understand the connection with Waheguru.
Naam is attained with efforts and is not automatically obtained in amrit sanchar or from a master.  Second most important question is usually "Why is it necessary to get naam? or "must I attain naam with naam kamayee?"    ................Answer to this is, - Naam is important because one will NOT and cannot be free from chaurasi lakh joons, unless you earn your Naam. The Mukhti from chaurasi lakh is the first type of mukthi and gurbani puts a lot of focus into this.
Naam is like a primary stage, and only after Naam, can one progress to GurMukh. When one is connected to the words and sound coming from WaheGURU's MUKH, then they are on path of Gurmukh whilst also being Mukht from lakh chaurasi.
 
 
 

Good abundant supply of ojas can help raise the kundalini, but it's not the same thing as kundalini energy. It's a subtle energy throughout the body that is akin to path of cerebrospinal fluid.  Whereas Prana is a life force energy that sustains our jeev, Ojas affects you physically in terms of stamina, vitality and health.   If you have lack of stamina, and internal energy, then your ojas is depleted.   Lots of apnay have poor ojas, as apparent from spare tire waists, pot bellies and lack of muscle.
Yogi bhajan lectures explained it quite well but I don't think you can access them online any longer. I may have some pdf's that I'll try and locate.  It's worth a look at this old thread to get a better idea...….
 

Good question and I believe this is where a lot of weight is actually held.
Personally, I feel that if you have a strategy of some sort that has some end factor or wish for worldly desire, then this can be or will be a spiritual hindrance.
A gurmukh assured me and was pretty certain that I made progress in my simran a little more rapidly because my intentions were purely out of love, without any worldly wishes or desires. It was for approaching the path with a strong belief that this was the purpose of my birth, life and the breaths that I take. Only the dhan (wealth of naam) of where my breaths are spent is what I shall leave this illusion with.
 
I know we have 'ardas'.. and people will argue ''what is ardas for then if I can't ask for peace, happiness,..job satisfaction, education..".....etc..
But then ask yourself "are you really walking in gurmat hukam or his bhana"?
I know it's difficult to answer and I can't tell anyone what to wish or not wish for either. ....and love can't be forced- so you can't really force yourself to delve into simran because you want to prove you have love for God. You either have the deepest love through realization or you don't....-can't be bought or forced.
He is antarjami and the inner-knower......My ardas is always for guidance, protection and shakti/power/energy in order to do his sift salah.
I strongly ask in every ardas for 'forgiveness'.- forgiveness, for mistakes I maybe aware of and those that I may not. Along with this, I also ardas for greater awareness, so that I am able to see my own faults in order to accept them. (you wold be surprised just how many faults of your own can come before your very eyes, years and years later)
It's the love that makes you walk in hukam and hukam is actually a stronger feeling of knowing you are walking in the Truth....  It's very difficult to explain this feeling of hukam............and because you know he is the antarjami, then you have more than enough faith that he will continually arrange the path in front of you. 24/7.. All he asks is that you try deal with daily battles of 5 dhoots.....do this, and he will take care of the rest and ensure you are fed and clothed.
Maya is the illusion, we should focus and direct our energies to the purest sat or truth within. ...in doing so the illusion will take care of itself.
That's my take on it... it may show ignorance and may not be the right one..... But that is what I feel at these moments of where I am in life. The future may well prove me wrong,

lets not be getting the kachey into twists... We have to remember that the jap and gurmantar/mantar is just a technique to help get the "one-pointed awareness''
ਇਕ ਚਿਤਿ ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਧਿਆਇ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਲਾਇ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਪਿਆਰੋ ॥
Ik cẖiṯ ik man ḏẖi▫ā▫e su▫āmī lā▫e parīṯ pi▫āro.
With my consciousness centered, and my mind one-pointed, I meditate on my Lord and Master, with love and affection
All about Ik chi-Ik mann
The one-pointed mind is the goal for any method that we use because this is what can take you to the states of sunn Samadhi.
The mind reaches samadhi when it attains a stage of one-pointed concentration, or absorption. Since mind and body are of one unity, if the mind reaches samadhi, the body will also attain sunn samadhi,.
With using gurmantar, moolmantar, or any other mantar like har har, ram......the mind should be internally listening to the mantra without adding any extra commentary to the sounds; the only sound experienced within jap,should be the sound of the mantar itself rather than any internal talking. There should be no second dialogue, and we should not impose any internal thought words of comprehension. In fact, ..in any jap, there should not be any internal dialogue--the mental realm within should remain quiet.
One-pointed concentration is what helps you get from the stage of just listening into the emptiness and bliss of the void.--->that's the only way the duar/door to Waheguru's sacha mahal will open.
Gurbani tells us about sowing the seeds and cultivating...and this is very important, because I think even his grace will only follow when one starts to cultivate.
 
Therefore, it doesn't matter what method of cultivation you use or what mantra, or if you use rosary, ring bells, play music, sing praises.......it's all about getting to that one-pointedness-->empty void->Samadhi.
However, Gurmat tells us to not get wound up in the cultivation techniques of whether to use rosary, to count your chants, mantars....but to focus on 'dhyiana' aspects of yoga schools,,, which is why it overlaps with bhakti yoga using mantar and breathing pranayama together.
Gurbani also tells us that our commodity is the Swaas....So it is the breath and one-pointed mind together that earns the wealth of naam.......With this in mind, I personally find it easier to merge breathing with gurmantar easier. But you can also do it with mool mantar providing you keep a joint pace with breath and mind jap.... speed up breathing->speed up moolmantar jap...OR slow down breath-->slow down moolmantar...........The idea is to keep the same number of breaths with cycles of moolmantar.
ps..I just tried moolmantar jap this morning and it went quite well once I had set my own breaths/mantar cycle rate! ;)
 
 
 
 
 
 

lets not be getting the kachey into twists... We have to remember that the jap and gurmantar/mantar is just a technique to help get the "one-pointed awareness''
ਇਕ ਚਿਤਿ ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਧਿਆਇ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਲਾਇ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਪਿਆਰੋ ॥
Ik cẖiṯ ik man ḏẖi▫ā▫e su▫āmī lā▫e parīṯ pi▫āro.
With my consciousness centered, and my mind one-pointed, I meditate on my Lord and Master, with love and affection
All about Ik chi-Ik mann
The one-pointed mind is the goal for any method that we use because this is what can take you to the states of sunn Samadhi.
The mind reaches samadhi when it attains a stage of one-pointed concentration, or absorption. Since mind and body are of one unity, if the mind reaches samadhi, the body will also attain sunn samadhi,.
With using gurmantar, moolmantar, or any other mantar like har har, ram......the mind should be internally listening to the mantra without adding any extra commentary to the sounds; the only sound experienced within jap,should be the sound of the mantar itself rather than any internal talking. There should be no second dialogue, and we should not impose any internal thought words of comprehension. In fact, ..in any jap, there should not be any internal dialogue--the mental realm within should remain quiet.
One-pointed concentration is what helps you get from the stage of just listening into the emptiness and bliss of the void.--->that's the only way the duar/door to Waheguru's sacha mahal will open.
Gurbani tells us about sowing the seeds and cultivating...and this is very important, because I think even his grace will only follow when one starts to cultivate.
 
Therefore, it doesn't matter what method of cultivation you use or what mantra, or if you use rosary, ring bells, play music, sing praises.......it's all about getting to that one-pointedness-->empty void->Samadhi.
However, Gurmat tells us to not get wound up in the cultivation techniques of whether to use rosary, to count your chants, mantars....but to focus on 'dhyiana' aspects of yoga schools,,, which is why it overlaps with bhakti yoga using mantar and breathing pranayama together.
Gurbani also tells us that our commodity is the Swaas....So it is the breath and one-pointed mind together that earns the wealth of naam.......With this in mind, I personally find it easier to merge breathing with gurmantar easier. But you can also do it with mool mantar providing you keep a joint pace with breath and mind jap.... speed up breathing->speed up moolmantar jap...OR slow down breath-->slow down moolmantar...........The idea is to keep the same number of breaths with cycles of moolmantar.
ps..I just tried moolmantar jap this morning and it went quite well once I had set my own breaths/mantar cycle rate! ;)
 
 
 
 
 
 

Good question and I believe this is where a lot of weight is actually held.
Personally, I feel that if you have a strategy of some sort that has some end factor or wish for worldly desire, then this can be or will be a spiritual hindrance.
A gurmukh assured me and was pretty certain that I made progress in my simran a little more rapidly because my intentions were purely out of love, without any worldly wishes or desires. It was for approaching the path with a strong belief that this was the purpose of my birth, life and the breaths that I take. Only the dhan (wealth of naam) of where my breaths are spent is what I shall leave this illusion with.
 
I know we have 'ardas'.. and people will argue ''what is ardas for then if I can't ask for peace, happiness,..job satisfaction, education..".....etc..
But then ask yourself "are you really walking in gurmat hukam or his bhana"?
I know it's difficult to answer and I can't tell anyone what to wish or not wish for either. ....and love can't be forced- so you can't really force yourself to delve into simran because you want to prove you have love for God. You either have the deepest love through realization or you don't....-can't be bought or forced.
He is antarjami and the inner-knower......My ardas is always for guidance, protection and shakti/power/energy in order to do his sift salah.
I strongly ask in every ardas for 'forgiveness'.- forgiveness, for mistakes I maybe aware of and those that I may not. Along with this, I also ardas for greater awareness, so that I am able to see my own faults in order to accept them. (you wold be surprised just how many faults of your own can come before your very eyes, years and years later)
It's the love that makes you walk in hukam and hukam is actually a stronger feeling of knowing you are walking in the Truth....  It's very difficult to explain this feeling of hukam............and because you know he is the antarjami, then you have more than enough faith that he will continually arrange the path in front of you. 24/7.. All he asks is that you try deal with daily battles of 5 dhoots.....do this, and he will take care of the rest and ensure you are fed and clothed.
Maya is the illusion, we should focus and direct our energies to the purest sat or truth within. ...in doing so the illusion will take care of itself.
That's my take on it... it may show ignorance and may not be the right one..... But that is what I feel at these moments of where I am in life. The future may well prove me wrong,

TBH, I've never talked too much about it in great detail.. I never even told my mother because she was way too drowned in maya. But I can tell you there are many fictional and fake versions out there, so you have to be careful what you read.
It was quite confusing for a few years because there were also a lot of things happening whilst I were in the month long coma. It took quite a few years to make sense of it since I'd also suffered significant brain and spinal injuries. 
 Did I believe in judgment day, the court or an after life?  I don't think I did, but probably believed in some kind of hereafter.  Prior to 2011, I was typical lad doing lots of bad stuff. and I really mean stuff that I'd be too ashamed to mention on here.  I'd do paaps and hera fairees like the rest of them among me all week long, and then go gurdwara on Sunday, giving large donations in the hope that my guilty conscience may be forgiven in some way.
The thing about getting your hasab done at the court is different for everybody depending on what karams or fates you may have faced in previous janams.  In my case, I had previously begged for another janam to go and jap naam. I had been given this jeevan to do that. However, I came, never japped naam but instead created more bad karams whilst lost in this land of maya.
I didn't have jamms beat me,  but I went past them at one stage and could see them beating others whilst hearing screams and pains of torture. I somehow knew that the ones suffering were there to learn from past deeds.
Nowadays, I understand my sole purpose in life and the certain tasks that I've been assigned to do from the higher sources. Jap naam and bhagtee are the priorities and I try to schedule everything else around that as compared to one who attempts to fit in bhagtee if and where they may have some time 

this one got me!
 During my nde in coma, I also came back from the court of dharmraj. Was instructed to go back and -nam jap- these were the 2 clear words. I came back and spent a few years from 2011 to find out what real nam jap is and what I should be doing.  I'm on the bhagtee marj but I still have loads to to. Thing that shocked me was the man in video who had been sent back was told he'd got 10 years to go and jap. I wasn't given a time but it is now 2021.. nearly 10 years since the incident.. This is like a kick up the backside because i've got so may things to do in bhagtee and stuff to sort at home..
Waheguru 

Darwin's, and the whole ape to man theories make it seem that we are a Coincidental product of evolution. That by chance or some law of outcomes we have ended up to mankind civilisation.
I think that gurbani makes it pretty clear for me that we are a Deliberate (not coincidental) product of God's creation. The human janam, the male/female. the karams, the lekha, etc..are all deliberate products from and for the Mann(mind)
Gurbani says..

ਗਉੜੀ  ਮਹਲਾ  ੧  ॥
Ga▫oṛī mėhlā 1.
Gauree, First Mehl:
ਜਾਤੋ  ਜਾਇ  ਕਹਾ  ਤੇ  ਆਵੈ  ॥
Jāṯo jā▫e kahā ṯe āvai.
How can we know where we came from?
ਕਹ  ਉਪਜੈ  ਕਹ  ਜਾਇ  ਸਮਾਵੈ  ॥
Kah upjai kah jā▫e samāvai.
Where did we originate, and where will we go and merge?
ਕਿਉ  ਬਾਧਿਓ  ਕਿਉ  ਮੁਕਤੀ  ਪਾਵੈ  ॥
Ki▫o bāḏẖi▫o ki▫o mukṯī pāvai.
How are we bound, and how do we obtain liberation?
ਕਿਉ  ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ  ਸਹਜਿ  ਸਮਾਵੈ  ॥੧॥
Ki▫o abẖināsī sahj samāvai. ||1||
How do we merge with intuitive ease into the Eternal, Imperishable Lord? ||1||
ਨਾਮੁ  ਰਿਦੈ  ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ  ਮੁਖਿ  ਨਾਮੁ  ॥
Nām riḏai amriṯ mukẖ nām.
With the Naam in the heart and the Ambrosial Naam on our lips,
ਨਰਹਰ  ਨਾਮੁ  ਨਰਹਰ  ਨਿਹਕਾਮੁ  ॥੧॥  ਰਹਾਉ  ॥
Narhar nām narhar nihkām. ||1|| rahā▫o.
through the Name of the Lord, we rise above desire, like the Lord. ||1||Pause||
ਸਹਜੇ  ਆਵੈ  ਸਹਜੇ  ਜਾਇ  ॥
Sėhje āvai sėhje jā▫e.
With intuitive ease we come, and with intuitive ease we depart.
ਮਨ  ਤੇ  ਉਪਜੈ  ਮਨ  ਮਾਹਿ  ਸਮਾਇ  ॥
Man ṯe upjai man māhi samā▫e.
From the mind we originate, and into the mind we are absorbed.
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ  ਮੁਕਤੋ  ਬੰਧੁ  ਨ  ਪਾਇ  ॥
Gurmukẖ mukṯo banḏẖ na pā▫e.
As Gurmukh, we are liberated, and are not bound.
ਸਬਦੁ  ਬੀਚਾਰਿ  ਛੁਟੈ  ਹਰਿ  ਨਾਇ  ॥੨॥
Sabaḏ bīcẖār cẖẖutai har nā▫e. ||2||
Contemplating the Word of the Shabad, we are emancipated through the Name of the Lord. ||2||
 
I hope you can see what I'm trying to say here.
Gurbani tells us: this janam is the ONE opportunity to merge directly with Akaal Purakh. Lakh chaurasi life forms have already been experienced by this mann and now we have an opportunity to get naam and break free. This is the janam, where combined with karam and gyan indries, intellect, brain and the huge learning capacity...we have the abilty to truly "Sacrifice" the dressed up mann to Waheguru..  I've come to personally believe that Akaal Purakh created this environment for the Mann that exists with Male and female aspects,.. and this life is not by chance, we have been through lakh chaurasi and we've begged for his darshan. Now, he gives us the chance, but we still blow it!!
 
 
 
 

Good abundant supply of ojas can help raise the kundalini, but it's not the same thing as kundalini energy. It's a subtle energy throughout the body that is akin to path of cerebrospinal fluid.  Whereas Prana is a life force energy that sustains our jeev, Ojas affects you physically in terms of stamina, vitality and health.   If you have lack of stamina, and internal energy, then your ojas is depleted.   Lots of apnay have poor ojas, as apparent from spare tire waists, pot bellies and lack of muscle.
Yogi bhajan lectures explained it quite well but I don't think you can access them online any longer. I may have some pdf's that I'll try and locate.  It's worth a look at this old thread to get a better idea...….
 

lets not be getting the kachey into twists... We have to remember that the jap and gurmantar/mantar is just a technique to help get the "one-pointed awareness''
ਇਕ ਚਿਤਿ ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਧਿਆਇ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਲਾਇ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਪਿਆਰੋ ॥
Ik cẖiṯ ik man ḏẖi▫ā▫e su▫āmī lā▫e parīṯ pi▫āro.
With my consciousness centered, and my mind one-pointed, I meditate on my Lord and Master, with love and affection
All about Ik chi-Ik mann
The one-pointed mind is the goal for any method that we use because this is what can take you to the states of sunn Samadhi.
The mind reaches samadhi when it attains a stage of one-pointed concentration, or absorption. Since mind and body are of one unity, if the mind reaches samadhi, the body will also attain sunn samadhi,.
With using gurmantar, moolmantar, or any other mantar like har har, ram......the mind should be internally listening to the mantra without adding any extra commentary to the sounds; the only sound experienced within jap,should be the sound of the mantar itself rather than any internal talking. There should be no second dialogue, and we should not impose any internal thought words of comprehension. In fact, ..in any jap, there should not be any internal dialogue--the mental realm within should remain quiet.
One-pointed concentration is what helps you get from the stage of just listening into the emptiness and bliss of the void.--->that's the only way the duar/door to Waheguru's sacha mahal will open.
Gurbani tells us about sowing the seeds and cultivating...and this is very important, because I think even his grace will only follow when one starts to cultivate.
 
Therefore, it doesn't matter what method of cultivation you use or what mantra, or if you use rosary, ring bells, play music, sing praises.......it's all about getting to that one-pointedness-->empty void->Samadhi.
However, Gurmat tells us to not get wound up in the cultivation techniques of whether to use rosary, to count your chants, mantars....but to focus on 'dhyiana' aspects of yoga schools,,, which is why it overlaps with bhakti yoga using mantar and breathing pranayama together.
Gurbani also tells us that our commodity is the Swaas....So it is the breath and one-pointed mind together that earns the wealth of naam.......With this in mind, I personally find it easier to merge breathing with gurmantar easier. But you can also do it with mool mantar providing you keep a joint pace with breath and mind jap.... speed up breathing->speed up moolmantar jap...OR slow down breath-->slow down moolmantar...........The idea is to keep the same number of breaths with cycles of moolmantar.
ps..I just tried moolmantar jap this morning and it went quite well once I had set my own breaths/mantar cycle rate! ;)
 
 
 
 
 
 

Like lots of bells/tambourine/shainey sounds....occurring at quite a fair and constant frequency?
I now realise that these different sounds occur as your prana channels start opening up and you chakras start gathering and directing the energies. These sounds are sometimes referred to as pavan shabads.
Best method is to just hear them, acknowledge them,..but not to focus or get lost in them. Keep dhyian and one-pointed concentration on the jap. I remember that I avoided myself getting too lost or distracted by listening out for what came next. 
Basically, you do jap.... .some pavan sound comes along,...... you acknowledge ...and confirm to yourself that ascension is occurring....., tell yourself  to not get wrapped up in it...., continue jap whilst they are in background and... wait for the next lot.   (I'm not going to say what may come next or how long it may be, because that pre-conditioned attitude may affect your progress)..   
Good- luck ...happy japing!

sounds like IBS.. irritable bowel synd.   ......You should try some peppermint oil, maybe even, peppermint tea. 
kegels are similar I think, but with root-lock -you find the point in between genito-urinary area and contract energy upwards from there.

Changing routine of reps is advisable and it's what my trainer teaches me. You have to consistently adapt and keep on top of what your body may be needing and what it can manage with. The switching also helps with better control and merging of Mind-Body and MInd-Breath. So make sure you are breathing in sync with reps. Breath out on muscle contractions/OR the work of Movement and in on relaxations/OR the prep on movement.
SAD is something that I'm sure I had when I lived in Ol' Blighty!!   Trying to maximise as much exposure to outdoors, daylight and sun is essential. I would recommend that you try some form of sun-gazing, even if it's just 5-10 minutes a day. I'm not sure where you are, but getting to a beach and sitting at the ocean is the best one for me and I try and go most days in the summer months.
I do Budh-asan sometimes, especially when I plan on sitting for more than one and a half to two hours. It is and ideal posture and it provides the CORRECT "grounding" -->which is about being perpendicular to the core of the earth. It is also highly recommended for practicing deeper Samadhi because it keeps you balanced and prevents you toppling over.  I started doing it with just the right leg on the left thigh. Then once you get adept  in this, you can try the full lotus or budha-asan..
STRETCHING is another biggie!!.. Ive learnt that you have to stretch, stretch and s-t-r-e-----t-c---hhhhh... as often as possible. Most of our aches and pains can be very easily relieved if we do the right stretches. The majority of knee pains are due to imbalances in leg muscle co-ordination. These can very easily be relieved in minutes with the correct stretches.
The pains of DOMS in muscles can   also be reduced by stretching in the opposite directions to the worked muscle contractions.

I get quite confused with all these new age supplements and stacks with amino acids, creatine, whey proteins... Back in the day when I was in my teens and a karate black belt, we used to just take some ephedrines (about 90mgs),some serious coffee and  drink up 3 raw eggs pre or post workout. I remember that some of the bigger and main guys use to be discussing and using somatotropin growth hormones and stuff( the oldie steroids).    jeeeeez,,,,,I'm gonna have to read up on some this new age stuff.

I'm in Vancouver man!....the west coast is warm and summers get real hot.. the beaches have nice pacific breeze......love it!!!

You guys are getting mixed up with what you read about astral travel.
There are a few different events that are often coined under the same banner.
Firstly, in Simran, and in advanced stages of simran, you can experience "consciousness expansion" this is being fully conscious of exactly where you are physically and at the same time your consciousness can also be in full awareness some place millions of miles away!  This means you don't exactly "exit' your body or anything and leave it behind, but you can be fully conscious in 2 places at once.  A member or two on here has experienced this whilst meditating and you really won't ever understand it unless it's experienced.
Secondly, In simran/as per gurmat /gurbani. ...the object is to CLOSE the 9 doors(naun darwajey) and meet our One Prabh. This is ONLY by "Har Har Naam dhyiaana"  . Now, I can't say no more, because I don't know if 9 doors close and soul exits dasam duar to have darshan OR if the darshan occur whilst in a state of consciousness expansion. However, I do feel that it is probably the former and in that sense, I believe that our interest as per gurbani, should only be on astral event of closing naun darwajey and opening the dasam.
As per the most common explanations of astral travel, which involves atma (inner soul) exiting body via some route or method; Sikh abyaasee is only interested in leaving the body via dasam duar, because that is the only direct portal to waheguru. Leaving by any other of the 9 doors keeps you in the lower realms.
 
 
 
 
 

Maybe there is some sort of physical shock when we get some kind of break-thru !
I mean we expose our bodies to so much filth around the world having to walk in public, past people smoking and spitting..etc...etc.
So, when we take some kind of spiritual leap, it probably has some sort of rebound effect physically.


Anyway, .....I was a little relieved to hear and also read your translation of the below.


Lately, because it's so hot.. we have the overhead fans on in every room about 18 hrs/day !
I have repeatedly gone from room to room and I can feel the 'waheguru' jap coming from the fan in complete sync with body rom rom !
The crazy thing is that for a few days I was just walking around room to room and changing the speeds on the fans to see if my rom rom reaction still stayed in sync.... and it would do so immediately !
Again, I was getting a little concerned because I thought that I have developed some 'oversensitivity' problem..!
I have been constantly telling myself that it's not rom rom and that i have messed up my own brain wires of sensory stimulation somewhere.
So, i was quite relieved when I heard this video the other day and then re-reading Sat's translation convinced me that I heard it correctly the first time.

Just a few days ago, I was even telling my wife and asking her if she could feel it ....I was asking her to really try hard to see if she could pick it up..... but she just gave me a weird look thinking that I'm losing the plot !

I can even feel it coming from the pump in the fish tank... but I never told her that bit !!

I remember some time ago reading about some experiment where they had some identical plants and exposed them to music.
From what I recall, one lot was exposed to some hard core gangsta rap/heavy metal with filthy language and the other to sweet, calm and loving orchestral music.
It was no surprise that the plants hearing the gentle love evoking music grew twice as much and blossomed with beautiful flowers whilst the growth was virtually stunted in the other lot.


Another little tip of mine to try-
...We know that certain families like to keep nice flowers and plants in their houses and gardens.
Next time you are visiting some relative or aunty, have a look at the state of the plants and see how healthy and happy they look.

You will find that the chances are in the houses where the arguments, as with liquor and drunken rows occur with shouting and swearing... ie a house where in punjabi we say, there is lots of ''Khlaeiss''..... then the state of the plants, if any will speak for that very environment.
On the other hand, in the families where waheguru's name resonates in shabad, kirtan..etc.. and there is 'Sat santokh' within family, then their plants and flowers will be just as colourful as the peace and love between the family.

Try it !!... I have personally confirmed it to myself a few times on occasions.

That's quite an interesting read Sat veerji.
I am aware that it's from a sant mat radhasoami source or one of their popular references, nevertheless there can be some hidden gems in anything !

Previously, I too had come across some radhasoami info that was slightly misleading. It seemed to state that one must listen to sounds from the right only and not the left. It made it sound that it is forbidden and very bad to listen to the left.
This seemed very peculiar to me because i thought that the one's on the right are the dominant ones and you don't really have much choice !
and I thought ''what are they on about?''
Anyway, as I delved further, I came across some other samparda specific sources, that actually gave me the impression that these guys don't actually know what they are on about and i was doubtng whether they had actually experienced anhad shabad ?

I have been researching and checking out many sources lately to find some more answers and come to some conclusions.
AND...The info you provided above from Anurag Sagar is actually pretty good and near bang on !!

From what I have learned recently-
-We have energy fields as you know and thats what chakras are all about .Now, energy fields only exist if there are Positive and opposing Negative forces.
-Chakras have positive and negative forces, such that, they rotate in opposite directions to the one above and below. So, you can imagine 7 discs arranged with each spinning in opposite rotations to the next one.
-However, it's not just chakras, we also have the nadis, kosha sheaths and layers of aura. There is not much info out there that links all of these but if you look into them, you can workout and conclude how they overlap and intertwine.

-Negative energies can be associated with the left side and sometimes meditating can result in people hearing from the left side. This is when they are meditating out of the gurmat boundaries. There are all sorts of occult type meditation out there, directed at self-gain of riddi siddi only and not solely towards the true higher conscience of akaal purakh. There is this whole world of psychic phenomena, sending negativities, clairvoyancy..etc.. which is NOT spiritually God aligned towards truth, although these people will claim that they are spiritual when in fact, it is all about self gain and maya.
Gurbani warns us about taking this route and we shouldn't pay interest to it.

-If you are doing simran correctly and it is directed towards the Truth of Ek onkaar satguru, then you should hear anhad from the right or above/central.

-A sixth sense can still come with gurmat simran, but you don't follow it and stray away from the path. You should just take these little encounters with a pinch of salt and not get attracted to them.


The above is just my own view from what i have gathered overall and I am in no position to say that what is correct and right for sure. It's just the logical interpretation I make from what I have come across so far.