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  1. Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh! Dear Sangat, (unsure if this was ever posted on here) I have come across this book written by Nidar Singh back in the 90s, I have seen on another topic the person who posted this used this book to discredit the vidiya of Nidar Singh. This was posted on the internet four years ago..In those four years he has started training students in many other countries. http://www.shastervidiya.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/The-Fighting-Traditions-And-Fighting-Arts-Of.pdf I enjoyed reading this book and learnt a lot about jung vidiya, the terminology used, what certain words mean etc. 'http://www.shastervidiya.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/The-Fighting-Traditions-And-Fighting-Arts-Of.pdf'' (1) Guru Hargobinds duel with Mugls Khan as described by Kavi Santokh Singh Ji . ‘Siri Hargovind keh smukh Hoeh . ‘Bhu mreh pju nahen Kaj hoeh .’ Facing Guru Hargobind ( Mugls Khan said ) . ‘Many have died nothing has been achieved . ‘Abh mor tor ranh hev kral . Avehlokh lokh hrkeh bisal .’ Lets you and me fight a fierce battle . May the people see and be greatly happy . ‘Keh maroh-n aph keh leoh mareh . Tab hoeh har keh jeet kar .’ Either I will be killed or I will kill you . Then will be loss or victory . ‘Gur sunjhu sabhan koh dejh htaeh . Abh khareh pikeh ranh ker da-eh .’ The Guru heard and told every one ( Meaning Akalis) to back off . Now stand back and watch the skills of war . ‘Ooteh T-urk hateh nahen kavh kaleh . Eet Sikh miteh Gur bakh nalh .’ Over their the Muslims backed off fighting not . Over here hearing Gurus word the Sikhs backed off . ‘Arh preh beer donho sdir . Sabh lakeh Pata Baji soh Khan .’ Both warriors were great . Muglskha-n watched carefully the Guru’s archery . (Pta=Pats=sword / Ptkabaji = Swordmanship = Chatka Gatka = total leathal skills of war hence including archery ) . ‘Pikh Guru sang kiniseh bkhanh . Meh chaho-n Kharg koh karn jang .’ Seeing the Guru he said . ‘I wish to fight with a sword . ‘Tum teer tjuh bal adik sangh . Samta nah champ bidya mjar .’ You dispense arrows with great strength . I do not posses equal skills of archery . ‘Badeh marteh hoh prithmeh nihareh . Sunh dharm yudh kee riteh janeh .’ You see first and shoot great arrows .’ Listening to the traditions of righteous battle and understanding . ‘Gur preh utreh tajeh kikkan . Samsher gehee samh sher hath . Guru Ji got of his horse and forsook his bow . In a tiger like hand he took the tiger like sword . ‘Bhu Gurv Puladi badeh satheh . Jaeh lagt loh koh kat-h jaeh .’ Many armours did Guru Ji cut with it . Where ever it fell it cut through iron . ‘Haj narin katan kiya keh bnaeh . Sabh lipteh so-n chamk char . For cutting horse and men what can be said is made . All were adorned with gold and glistened . (The above two lines are difficult to translate even though a transliteration of the above lines can be easily made . But then again are irrelevant to our main object of study meaning Gurus Pentras . Thus when I was taught by my Ustad Ji , who taught from memory . Rather than giving me complete translations of the passages concerned he mainly concentrated on recounting only the portions of the passages actually dealing with the Pentras of battle ) . ‘Krh bamh sath geh mhd dar . Uth Muglskha-n khenchi Kirpan .’ In his left hand (Guru Ji ) held a shield . Dismounting Muglskha-n drew his sword . ‘Geh Sipar pju jabeh savdanh . Bhu lkheh daeh eet oot bchaeh .’ When taking hold of a large shield he was ready . Many techniques did he consider moving this way and that . ‘Ranh riti firteh ch-heh karneh ka-eh . Hoeh bam dahneh karteh nerh .’ Observing the traditions of the battlefield he moved about desiring to kill . Moving left and right coming nearer . ‘Gur smukh aeh chahet so-h perh . Siri Har Govind tabh kehseh taeh-n .’ Coming face to face with the Guru he wished to fight . Siri Guru Hargobind Ji said to him . ‘Sunh Khan jitak bidhya so-h paeh . Sabh kareh dikhavneh ajh aph .’ ‘Listen oh Khan the (Martial) knowledge you have learned . All off it today you show . ( If a warrior claims to posses secret techniques of battle one of the way’s , but not necessarily the best way , to find out is to fight him so he is forced to use them . Guru Ji above first want’s to see what Pentras Muglas Khan has then play his own Pentra .) ‘Bisvas jas keh treh daph . Dal duhneh ker jodha dikhanteh .’ With confidence and gaining praise fight with pride . Soldiers of both armies are watching . ‘Sabh jeet harh as-ah tranteh . Abh prthmeh varh krh leh prharh .’ All are hoping for victory not defeat . Now the first strike you strike . ‘Avlokeh bal ketikh jujar . Sunh dhir sahet-h Gur keh so-h benh .’ Our strengths ( Skill) many warriors are watching .’ Listening patiently to the words of the Guru . ‘Tabh Muglskha-n krh smukh nenh . Chahit prharh nahen davh paeh .’ Then Mugls Khan focused his eyes . He desired to strike but could not see a opening for a technique . ‘Jeh hthohn Kharg tanh leh bchaeh . Krh agar daleh adho kreh .’ If I strike with sword he will save himself . He will put shield in front and block the blow . (Mugls Khan is thinking to himself ) . ‘Hoeh nefil var kush nahen sreheh . Gur savdhan hoeh choferh .’ The technique will be wasted nothing will be gained . The Guru is alert and moving all around . ‘Samsher hath samh shere hereh . Tkh rehoh bhut-h nahen davh paeh .’ Sword in hand like a hunter he (Guru) is stalking . He (Mugls Khan ) is watching for a opening but he can find none . ‘Tabh parhju aneh Aseh koh uthaeh . Oopar jnaeh trh koh parharh .’ Then attacking (Mugls Khan is trying to create an opening for attack ) raises his sword high . Feigning attack too above he delivers a low blow . ‘Gur gaeh koodh ga shoosh var . Pun Kharg sees kee dish chlaee .’ Guru Ji leapt and evaded the blow . Then (Mugls Khan) struck at the Gurus body . ‘Gur Sipar shigar hee krh bchaeh . Teh rokh oopereh hath leeneh .’ Guru Ji with speed blocked the blow on his shield . Taking the blow on it . ‘Geh Kharg aphno var kineh . Pujkeh tareh so-h tehen lagj jaeh .’ Grasping his sword (Guru Ji ) struck his blow . It struck below his arm ( Mughals Khans sword arm .) ‘Bal seht-h bheju es-h bidh sfaeh . Sabh Shashter baster phereh jeh ang .’ With power thus did the sword deal a clean blow . All weapons and clothes on the body . ‘Kat gaeh sakal ekh bar sang . Gan pasreeneh sabh kat deeneh .’ All were cut at once . All the ribs were cut . ‘Jug khand hoeh dahr prneh keen . Sir bhuja seht-h pah ekh khand .’ Cut in two the body fell . Head with arms lay one side . ‘Jug charn jukt duteoh prchand . Imh bheju Kharg sabh kat dareh .’ Legs and feet lay the other side . Thus was the sword wielded all did it cut . Sabooneh teh jimh tarh pareh . Reh gaee akh pasree besal .’ Like wire through soap it cut . His (Mugls Khans ) eyes and ribs lay open . End . Note ~there are many spelling mistakes in the book Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ke fateh
  2. http://www.firstpost.com/india/ghar-wapsi-punjab-rss-returns-christians-sikhism-raises-akali-ire-2001091.html Ghar wapsi in Punjab? RSS converts Christians to Sikhism, raises Akali ire by FP Staff Dec 22, 2014 10:53 IST #christians #didyouknow #ghar wapsi #Hindu #Hinduism #SAD #Sikh #Sikhism #WhatNext 16 Comments 140 522 0 Email Print this Article Even as 'Ghar Wapsi', the Hindu right's agenda to get back Christians and Muslims into the fold of their 'original religion, gains momentum, it seems the Hindu groups have not restricted this 'programme' to just Hinduism and have extended it to Sikhism too. According to an Indian Express report, RSS and other affiliated groups in Punjab, claimed to have converted over 8,000 Christians back to 'Sikhism' in the "last three years, some 3,500 of them over the last one year." "Hoshiarpur district has seen the most ‘ghar wapsis’, followed by Amritsar and Batala", adds the IE report. The report points out that RSS has also found support from "gurdwaras and some members of the SAD-dominated Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC)." RSS leader Ram Gopa,l who heads the organisation’s Dharm Jagran unit, justified their programme and claimed that in some villages "the entire population had converted" to Christianity and that this was a threat to Sikhism. One SGPC member Kiranjot Kaur, who has helped with these re-conversions agreed with Gopal's views and pointed out that Christianity was a serious threat to Sikhism. It seems RSS has also made sure that lower castes,who re-convert to Hinduism, are not discriminated against and thus lured by Christianity all over again. Leaders of the outfit in the state claimed that they are training some lower castes to become priests, a privilege reserved for Brahmins. One widow, Kinder Kaur, who reconverted told the paper, “We converted (to Christianity) because we were told that my husband would be cured of his illness. He died in 2011. Three months ago, the RSS motivated us to become Sikhs again. I have also changed the names of my children from Thomas and Rebecca to Sumeet and Kuljit.” Representational image. AFP. But this re-conversion tactic has not gone down well with Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD), which is an ally of the BJP, points out the report, as the party "sees Dalit Christians as a vote bank." The report points out that even Chief Minister Prakash Singh Badal assured Christians that they would not allow “forcible conversions” in the city. It should be noted that where RSS is concerned, its tendency to put Sikhism within the fold of Hinduism has meant that it is not viewed with great liking by 'orthodox Sikhs.' Of course where conversion is concerned, Punjab is not the only state where RSS and it's fringe-groups have claimed success. Most recently reports showed that VHP had converted over 200 Christians in Gujarat in a mass ceremony. A PTI report showed that the rituals were held at Aranai village in Valsad district of BJP-ruled Gujarat and that a 'Maha Yagnya' (ritual of the sacred fire) was organised for "purification" of the tribals before taking them back in Hindu-fold. Each of them was also given a copy of Bhagwad Gita. VHP insisted that the re-conversion was "voluntary" and not by force. "As part of the ongoing 'Ghar Vapsi' programme, VHP today re-converted 225 people from Christian community and took them back into Hindu religion," said Valsad district VHP chief Natu Patel. In Kerala it was reported that 35 people had converted to Hinduism, forcing the state to call a probe into the incident. The conversion reportedly took place pn Sunday morning in Alappuzha and Kollam districts. In Alappuzha, members of eight Christian families - a total of 30 people - reportedly embraced Hinduism at a temple function organised by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP). In Kollam, there were five people who reportedly became Hindus. The VHP, meanwhile, said all those who became Hindus on Sunday decided to convert on their own, and all the organisation did was to prepare the stage for it. Reports said another 300 people in Alappuzha have expressed their desire to embrace Hinduism, and the conversion ceremony was likely to take place on Christmas day. While the BJP has said that it does not support "forced religious conversion", the recent spate of reports on these so-called 'ghar wapsi' ceremonies are a worrying sign where religious freedom is concerned in the country.
  3. By the way that blog tisarpanth has a facebook page now. They are happy to receive any criticisms on there. Plus its got some good info and hes getting out of his Hinduphobia. https://www.facebook.com/Tisarpanth Just wondering if Niddar has any blogs?
  4. Just out of interest did the Akali Nihangs try ousting the corrupt sanataani elements which had overtaken darbar sahib back in those days?
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