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This topic is to address the state of nihangs 2017, the nihangs are in utter shambles for the last few years. They are on the slow road of self destruction. Since the death of Baba Santa Singhji, two factions emerged. balbir supported by SGPC, other side joginder singh & baba surjeet singh ji. As many of you know, baba surjeet singh was put in jail for 5 years with many other singhs. Joginder was apparently the mukhi. Then others claimed baba prem singh is the jathedar of the dal. What happened since baba surjeet singh did his charai? the likes of joginder have joined forces with balbir's faction. The point I would like to make is, for many years the nihangs of the UK such as those who call themselves budha dal UK mainly fools from Southall and the westmidlands , had massive posters saying joginder is the dal panth jathedar and they are fully behind him etc. What went wrong with their jathedar, and why did he join forces with balbirs camp? was he a coward who was scared of facing a dunali put to his head? A few months ago the chakarvarti jathedar from baba prem singhs faction was shot dead by singhs of balbirs side. Here is a few pictures of various well known nihang leaders with balbir, many pictures are from 2017 which can be found in Instagram by various young nihang singhs living in the dal. Baba avtar singh, baba nihal singh, baba gajjar singh, baba joginder singh, all recognise balbir as the true jathedar, those who know politics within the dal will realise that they have all sold their soul to SGPC and to the devil. So why do Sikhs of the west praise the likes of baba nihal singh and baba joginder singh who clearly are submissive to balbir? they are nothing more than puppets/stooge's and sell outs of the panth. We should not invite these people to the UK because lets face it, they are only self interested to keep their various posts in india from being taken away from them.