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  1. Please listen to Gyani Kulwant Singh jee, illustrating how a human is dependent on his own praises. Please start listening after 50:30 min: http://www.gianikulwantsingh.com/audio/RehraasSahib/003%20AAKHAN%20JEEVA.mp3 Bhul chuk maaf
  2. Can sangat please share some practical ways of controlling ego? If someone can provide real-life examples, that would be great. Thanks a lot Waheguru jee kaa Khalsa Waheguru jee kee Fateh
  3. 5 Elements, Realization and being Selfless. Below is some explaining and understanding about what realization actually means and why the concern with 5 elements. Important to understand what 5 elements represent and what is not made from these 5 tat. I've not used any other references except for Gurbani quotes, so all errors are mine and I stand corrected. Everything made of the 5 tat is in constant change, moment to moment, in a continual flux of motion. This is what contributes to kaal and time. This is also what our mind perceives as the 'Reality'. The surroundings and the 5 tat maya,that existence is enveloped in, is perceived as the “Reality” Q: But if the 5 tat maya is the reality, then what is realization? A: Funny, because "realization" is actually realizing, that the reality perceived by our mind is Not the reality, and Not the truth. Realization = Realizing that reality, as we know it, is NOT actually real -Why? Because the Truth is aad jugaad,hai bhi, hosi,,,,, He always was, always is and will always remain "as is" Truth does not change. He is not in constant variation or shift. He stays as he always was and always will be Kabir ji says.. ਨਾ ਓਹੁ ਬਢੈ ਨ ਘਟਤਾ ਜਾਇ ॥ Nā oh badẖai na gẖatṯā jā▫e. God does not increase or decrease. ਅਕੁਲ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਏਕੈ ਭਾਇ ॥੩॥ Akul niranjan ekai bẖā▫e. ||3|| He is unknowable and immaculate; He does not change. ||3|| Q:Why does the MInd perceive the reality as the changing maya that is made of 5 tat? A:Because the Mind itself is made of 5 tat (non-spiritualists won't get what man tu jyot saroop hai really means) Gurbani confirms what I'm saying- ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਚ ਤਤੁ ਤੇ ਜਨਮਾ ॥ Ih man pancẖ ṯaṯ ṯe janmā. This mind is born of the five elements. The unchanging "truth" our almighty lord Waheguru, is NOT made of 5 elements. Gurbani also tells us- ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖ ਨ ਪੰਚ ਤਤ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਅਬਿਨਾਸ ॥੨॥ Rūp na rekẖ na pancẖ ṯaṯ ṯẖākur abinās. ||2|| He has no form or outline, and He is not made of the five elements; our Lord and Master is imperishable. ||2|| Beloved Kabirji confirms. The mind is in constant change and living off the 5 elements in maya- ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਚ ਤਤ ਕੋ ਜੀਉ ॥ Ih man pancẖ ṯaṯ ko jī▫o. This mind is the life of the five elements We are changing and everything in the universe, under the influence of 5 tats, is also changing. But behind all of this somewhere is the unchanging "ultimate reality".... the True one, the all knower and the doer. Q; How do we find this True one that knows all? By lifting this veil of 5 tats that makes the mind and everything that it perceives. This is where we have to try and "stop" or "still" the changing mind. To still is to move to this nothingness where there is no "I" (remember the "I'' is always changing) ...the "I" is the ego. To become SELFLESS through realizing the absence of real ego, is the practice of all paths. Find the UNCHANGING reality, the True Reality, the True Jyot. Here there is no "I" that exists, there is no ego....this is what is called being selfless. Kabir ji says- ਜਹ ਕਛੁ ਅਹਾ ਤਹਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਪੰਚ ਤਤੁ ਤਹ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ Jah kacẖẖ ahā ṯahā kicẖẖ nāhī pancẖ ṯaṯ ṯah nāhī. Where something existed, now there is nothing. The five elements are no longer there. Every path or faith tells us to forget about Ego in order to "become more spiritual" or more 'Sikh" However, ordinary followers ignore this injunction because the task seems way too difficult. As a result, these followers identify with their physical bodies or with their thoughts or experiences and mistakenly take this "other" as their true self. The 2nd reason that followers can't become selfless is because they do not know how to detach from the seductive pull of 5 tat maya. Gurbani tells us to detach and disassociate from maya, which actually stems from detaching away from the 5 tats that are not only in what we perceive around us, but also in what makes up our "running in 10 directions" mind. They don't understand the process of purifying, the japna to get away from the "forever changing" 5 tat maya àto the non-changing stillness and truth. They become at loss when it comes to the task of spiritual cultivation. I say "cultivation" because Gurbani pangtees about sowing and reaping seeds, are not all about karams, (wont cross-reference here now to go off current discussion.) they are also about the spiritual practice efforts you make and the gurprasad grace that will follow. Gurprasad and grace doesn't come from 'above to à down' if you've no efforts of going from 'down to àabove' Don’t fool yourself thinking that gurprasad grace can just come down from above if you sit cross-legged and hath-johr(hands folded), without making an ounce of effort to raise your awareness and consciousness! This brings me to another area of different discussion that also stems from the same 5 tat-changing-selves,...and that is "mukhti" or liberation. Real Mukhti is to be FREE from the 5 tat existence of change. Free from the changing and repeating cycles of birth and death. Liberated from the changing 5 element maya. The 5 elements have to be mastered before you can be free of them. You can do them in any order but out of Air, Water, Wind, Earth and Ether(space/akash), .Earth is the most difficult because our hair, fingernails, bones and earth kapra of physical body is the most dense. The least dense and the most flexible is the Air. The air corresponds to the prana in terms of it’s movement and Gurmat advises that we start here. Japo Saas saas simro gobind, saas saas to master that first element/tat of Air because it is the least dense and easiest one to master and separate from. Air is also what came first before material creation from Primal void of Sunn, Gurbani says… ਪਉਣੁ ਪਾਣੀ ਸੁੰਨੈ ਤੇ ਸਾਜੇ ॥ Pa▫uṇ pāṇī sunnai ṯe sāje. From this Primal Void, He fashioned air and water. Thus, it is very possible to do the reversible and enter Sunn Samadhi by mastering and separating from the Air. This is a key approach we use in simran to go into sunn from that cross-legged, hath-johr position. Air is the Guru of maya, since "pavan guru, pane pitaa, mata dharth.mahaat” and Air
  4. ANG 1360 ਕਰਪੂਰ ਪੁਹਪ ਸੁਗੰਧਾ ਪਰਸ ਮਾਨੁਖ੍ਯ੍ਯ ਦੇਹੰ ਮਲੀਣੰ ॥ Camphor, flowers and perfume become contaminated, by coming into contact with the human body. ਮਜਾ ਰੁਧਿਰ ਦ੍ਰੁਗੰਧਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਅਥਿ ਗਰਬੇਣ ਅਗ੍ਯ੍ਯਾਨਣੋ ॥੧॥ O Nanak, the ignorant one is proud of his foul-smelling marrow, blood and bones. ||1|| Bhul chuk maaf
  5. WJKK WJKF virtual sadh sangat jee, please can you help share your experiences around, those days that you do full nitnem (5 banis am, rehraas sahib, kirtan sohali) versus days that you do not ? As with diwali, guy fawks, gur purab celebrations the indian home has been full - so I manged to miss some bani reading of nitnem. The weirdest thing, the whole day as I sat with guests/family doing what needed to be done - my heart raced double time as as I multi tasked chanting Wa He Gu Ru mantra - I concentrated internally more on the mantra as I felt guilty for missing some nitnem. And my surroundings did feel a noor around them. Paradox, when I do manage to do full nitnem - egotistically feel "good" for doing full paath. When we know that bani is beyant to fully understand and apply. Basically, it seems ego increases if full nitnem done (feeling superior since accomplished a semi defined goal) whilst simran saas saas per prana is just as challenging but doesn't allow ego to creep in as, its not humanly possible to simar per nano second (as humans we are incapable). Bhul Chuk Maaf Karna Mere Waheguru
  6. WJKK WJKF virtual sadh sangat jee, please can you help share your experiences around, those days that you do full nitnem (5 banis am, rehraas sahib, kirtan sohali) versus days that you do not ? As with diwali, guy fawks, gur purab celebrations the indian home has been full - so I manged to miss some bani reading of nitnem. The weirdest thing, the whole day as I sat with guests/family doing what needed to be done - my heart raced double time as as I multi tasked chanting Wa He Gu Ru mantra - I concentrated internally more on the mantra as I felt guilty for missing some nitnem. And my surroundings did feel a noor around them. Paradox, when I do manage to do full nitnem - egotistically feel "good" for doing full paath. When we know that bani is beyant to fully understand and apply. Basically, it seems ego increases if full nitnem done (feeling superior since accomplished a semi defined goal) whilst simran saas saas per prana is just as challenging but doesn't allow ego to creep in as, its not humanly possible to simar per nano second (as humans we are incapable). Bhul Chuk Maaf Karna Mere Waheguru
  7. ਨਾਨਕ ਤੇ ਨਰ ਅਸਲਿ ਖਰ ਜਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਗੁਣ ਗਰਬੁ ਕਰੰਤ ॥੧੫॥ O Nanak, those people are really donkeys; they have no virtue or merit, but still, they are very proud. ||15|| Bhul chuk maaf
  8. Please listen to Sant Baba Makhan Singh jee (Head of Amritsari Taksaal), narrating an anecdote from the life of a Sevapanthi sadhu. Please start listening after 35:20 min: http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/02_Present_Day_Katha/Baba_Makhan_Singh_%28Sato_Kee_Gali_wale%29/Sukhmani_Sahib_Viakhya/Baba.Makhan.Singh--Sukhmani.Sahib.Katha.Part.25.mp3 Bhul chuk maaf
  9. Please click on the English translation in Step 1 box, the verse(in Gurmukhi) will appear in Step 2 box and then finally, you can click on the verse, to see the entire Shabad in Step 3 box. http://www.gursevak.com/gareebishabads Bhul chuk maaf
  10. Please listen to Sant Baba Makhan Singh jee (Head of Amritsari Taksaal), narrating an anecdote from the life of indar Devta. In between, Gyani jee also talks about Srimaan Sant Baba Attar Singh jee Mastuanaywale. Please start listening after 23:10 min: http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audios/Katha/02_Present_Day_Katha/Baba_Makhan_Singh_%28Sato_Kee_Gali_wale%29/Jap_Ji_Sahib_Katha/33--Baba.Makhan.Singh--Jap.Ji.Sahib.Viakhya.Part.33.mp3 Bhul chuk maaf
  11. Please listen to Gyani Kulwant Singh jee, explaining an anecdote from the life of Srimaan Baba Ghaniya jee Maharaaj. Please start listening after 22:40 min: http://www.gianikulwantsingh.com/audio/BaarahMaahaaTukhaari_ChantMahla-1/5%20-%20Thukaree%20Raag%20Baraa%20Maha%20Katha%20-%20Giani%20Kulwant%20Singh%20Ji%20%28Ludhiana%20Vaalay%29.mp3 Bhul chuk maaf
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