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Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed

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Jathedar Iqbal Singh of Patna Sahib had combined the maryada of Taksaal, AKJ and Nanaksar into one. All three organisations were really pleased as they have never accepted Panthic Maryada uptil now. Also like his father , Sukhbir is controlled by his wife and his in laws who in turn are disciples of Nanaksar Baba Ghala Singh. Hence Vedanti was quietened against Jathedar Iqbal Singh by Junior Majthia.

Now read the newsitem below whereby Maryada meeting was held at Nanaksar DERA in Delhi. Ultimately in few years time even Maryada component of AKJ and Taksaal will be thrown out as well, as Nanaksar DERA knows that they have the majority as all Sants follow Nanaksar Maryada. AKJ and Taksaal do not have the numbers.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20080209/punjab1.htm#4

Sukhbir, Iqbal Singh, SGPC chief hold closed-door meeting

Varinder Walia

Tribune News Service

Amritsar, February 8

In a significant development, Sukhbir Singh Badal, Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) president, Giani Iqbal Singh, Jathedar, Patna Sahib, Baba Harnam Singh Khalsa, chief, Damdami Taksal, and Avtar Singh, SGPC chief held a closed-door meeting at Nanaksar Dera in New Delhi today.

Talking to The Tribune, Giani Iqbal Singh said it was agreed in principle to form a seven-member high-powered committee, including jathedars of all five Takhts to bring about Panthic unity on the Nanakshahi calendar.

The meeting also resolved that a consensus would be evolved to work out a uniform Sikh maryada which should be implemented by all five Takhts and different factions of the Sant Samaj.

To give a practical shape to the proposals, as agreed upon by Sukhbir, the SGPC, the Damdami Taksal and the SAD, a meeting of the Sikh clergy is likely to be held here on February 13. Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti, Jathedar, Akal Takht, who is currently on a religious tour to France, would call the meeting after his return on February 12.

Sources pointed out that the meeting lasted for more than 2 hours. Jathedar Iqbal Singh briefed the SGPC chief and Sukhbir on issues causing Panthic controversies .

Jathedar, Patna Sahib, reportedly told the SAD chief that it was Jathedar Vedanti who had decided not to invite him to the meeting of Sikh high priests held at Akal Takht recently. However, the SAD chief assured him that he would ensure that all jathedars were invited for the meetings of Akal Takht. The two granthis of the Golden Temple would also be involved in framing a uniform maryada.

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yeah it is great, akj and nanaksar singhs will remove the slaughter carried out by the ladoo, i mean ladlee fauj :D

excellent!

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Chatka is a parampara carried out for centuries and is something which will continue no matter how many fairies get together to cut it out remember that!

Akaal! Sat Sri Akaal!

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Unity will come come through acceptance, not through compromise.

Exactly - why do we need 1 Maryada? How can an AKJ follower who doesn't believe in all of Guru Granth Sahib Ji be expected to have the same Maryada as other Singhs?

Some Maryadas like the Taksali, Nihang etc have existed for centuries. Why should these be compromised?

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I think its a really good news.

It would be really great if all the Gurudwaras imply the maryada of doing the seva of Guru Granth Sahib ji as taught by Dhan Dhan Baba Nand Singh ji maharaj himself.

In Nanaksar maryada, " seva of Guru Granth Sahib ji" is a major component .If all the paramparas come together to form a unified maryada, panth would be in great chardikala.

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if everyone is expecting ekta to come through 1 unified maryada that sets out specific rules about every small thing, it just isnt going to happen. There are too many small differences/egotistical issues between sampardas/jathas for this to happen. I think a better idea would be for everyone to develop some tolerance for the beliefs of others when it comes to smaller differences such as chatka. A unified maryada could be useful for setting out minimum nitnem, status of Gurbani such as dasam granth, guidelines for amrit sanchaar, standard kakaars, defining bajjar kurehits, and other such similar stuff.

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Exactly - why do we need 1 Maryada? How can an AKJ follower who doesn't believe in all of Guru Granth Sahib Ji be expected to have the same Maryada as other Singhs?

Some Maryadas like the Taksali, Nihang etc have existed for centuries. Why should these be compromised?

Exactly, AKJ's point their fingers at both Satguru Adh and Dasam Granth Maharaj, and Nanaksaries well, lets say the panth will turn to pacifism.

Nanaksar = NO bir rass

So will Nanaksar now dictate how to run Darbaar Sahibs accross the world too, ie taking Satguru to SachKhand before ardaas, completly ignore bir rass in ardaas, eg khanda jaake hath me..... and strip Satguru of His shastra making Satguru Shastraheen!!!!! THAT IS BLASPHEMY!!!!!!! Bina SHASTRA kesang narang pedh jaano, is maharaaj gnna become a bakri now thanks to these White Nanaksar Faeries?

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Maha Kharag Singh, how much do you actually know of Nanaksar and their Maryada? Not everything on Sarbloh.info is correct.

If we actually look at the Taksal (very very similar to Bhai Daya Singh Samparda), Nihang dals and even the Nanaksar Maryadas, there is very little difference. The problem is with the new-age SGPC and AKJ maryadas.

Even those are not really a 'problem' unless imposed on others.

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Exactly, AKJ's point their fingers at both Satguru Adh and Dasam Granth Maharaj, and Nanaksaries well, lets say the panth will turn to pacifism.

Nanaksar = NO bir rass

So will Nanaksar now dictate how to run Darbaar Sahibs accross the world too, ie taking Satguru to SachKhand before ardaas, completly ignore bir rass in ardaas, eg khanda jaake hath me..... and strip Satguru of His shastra making Satguru Shastraheen!!!!! THAT IS BLASPHEMY!!!!!!! Bina SHASTRA kesang narang pedh jaano, is maharaaj gnna become a bakri now thanks to these White Nanaksar Faeries?

Maha Kharag Singh ,

Your statement that nanaksar = no bir rass is completely false and invalid.

I will mainly refer to Baba Nand Singh Ji and Baba Ishar Singh Ji when referring to true maryada of Nanaksar.

Baba Ji never said that don't keep shastras in front of Guru ji. I have seen shastars in many Nanaksar Gurdwaras. In fact, in our home and the homes of various nanaksar devouts I have seen swords and shastars.

In various pictures , you can see Baba Ishar Singh ji carrying a big Khanda in his hand. He himslef was very fond of shastars. I would like to mention one anecdote over here :

Once a devotee prepared a "naagni" ( a weapon /spear shaped such as having a corkscrew motion when inserted inside). He prepared it such so that it could be dismantled into 3 parts for easy transportation. He brought it with great devotion for Baba Ishar Singh ji. Baba ji assembled the naagni , took it in his hand and looked at it with a serious gaze. As told by devotees present there , Baba ji's avastha changed into a Bir Rassi Yodha. He started playing gatka with it and did several paintras and finally shoved into the ground with a great force. Upon taking it out , the wind started to blow and took the form of a mini tornado .It blew away and it is said that some loss of property took place.No body knew what was the reason behind it. Mahapurkhan dian mahapurkh hi jaanan. Then he narrated the saakhi of Bhai Bachittar singh ji and how he killed the elephant with naagni barchi.

During the war between China and India, some soldiers had seen Baba Ishar Singh ji fighting along with them.

Once Baba Ishar singh ji locked himself in a room and when he came out he was seen with a sword dripping with blood and his clothes full of dirt.

When Baba Ishar Singh Ji went to Hazoor Sahib , Baba ji himself asked the pujaari ji to do the seva of Weapons kept there. The pujari ji refused because he was not allowed to allow outer people to do the seva. Baba ji went there around midnight , the locks that the pujari had put opened by themselves, Baba ji did the seva of Weapons, upon coming out Pujari ji saw Baba ji , both exchanged fatehs with each other, after exchanging faeths the Bachan of Guru Gobind Singh ji that when 2 singhz will say fateh to each other will have darshan of me manifested itself, and Pujari ji had darshan of Guru Gobind Singh ji . To show his respect to Baba Ishar Singh ji he presented him with a Katar of Guru Ji that is now kept in Nanaksar Jagraon.

There are several other incidents in lives of Baba Ishar Singh ji and Baba Nand Singh ji in which Bir Rass is greatly evident.

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How can you say that Nanaksar= No Bir Rass. I dont know where you got this idea from . You must yourself be living in a fairy world where you cannot see beyond the white chole.

The Amrit of Guru Gobind Singh ji is the same. Whoever practises Gurbani and Naam will attain Bir Rass for sure.

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0PgA!DgQSNSN...539585369918345

Baba Ji with panj pyaare.

http://groups.msn.com/nanaksar/photoalbum....amp;PhotoID=410

The Panj Pyaare . Who can be more bir rasi than the panj pyaare ?

http://groups.msn.com/nanaksar/photoalbum....amp;PhotoID=412

Baba Ishar Singh Ji with Sant Ishar Singh ji Maharaj

http://groups.msn.com/nanaksar/photoalbum....amp;PhotoID=506

Baba Ishar Singh ji and other sants from various sampardas.

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Baba Ji with Khanda

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