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N30 Singh ji,

Guru Fateh.

What doubts do you have about SGGS, our ONLY GURU? Please bring them forward and share with us and it will not be silly. That is only your opinion.

Thanks

Tejwant Singh

You took me out of context. Read the post bit carefully next time.

Member name- Guru Da Sikh had a doubt, if guru maharaj wanted to adress kaam issues, they would have included everything in sri guru granth sahib no point of creating another composition. In respond to his doubt i posted in return- also to doubt in other words- people who have doubts - if treh charitar was translated by sri dasam patsah then why not include everything in sri guru granth sahib maharaj? Then i responded the rest. It's amazing you didn't read rest of my post but took one line out of context.

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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

Dear all!

All kind of person came on earth before Guru Jee's time, during their time and today also.

Lust overpowers all according to the natural instinct one is born with.

Kaam begins to settle down in a person who receives the wisdom of true Naam Simran and does it as Nitnem.

Please mention the original Vaak of the episode and let's discuss it.

Balbir Singh

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N30 Singh ji,

Guru Fateh.

You are confusing biology which is also mentioned in SGGS with pornographic erotoism which is mentioned in Dasam Granth. Let us be objective and not try to mix apples and oranges because of our subjective beliefs based on the shameless erotic way it is written in Dasam Granth and blindly accept that it is written by our Dasam Pita. So for you the perverted way Charitars are written are part of a biology or sex education class in schools? Get real, mate.

This shows undermining, disrespect of Dasam Pita on our part and it also shows how arrogant we are by determining that our 10th Guru who sacrificed all his family, created Khalsa Panth and gave us SGGS as our ONLY GURU will write this kind of rubbish and name it HIS Granth?

Just ponder over it a bit. Sikhi is not about blind faith. Blind faith makes people blind.

Tejwant Singh

Instead of indulging in useless propaganda by applying various tricks show us by posting full charitras form Dasam Granth here. You have been asked to do that repeatedly. There is nothing objectionable in Charitropakhayan .

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Please ban him. He has not reponded once to Singh2s request to discuss ONE Charitra in detail.

All this bozo keeps doing is talking about how everyone is a perv and is frothing at the mouth, weirdo.

Sorry for being rude, but all I have seen is Singh2 repeatedly trying to get a discussion out of these fools, and all they do is insult him, why is admin continuously allowing this, how much evidence do you need?

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Please ban him. He has not reponded once to Singh2s request to discuss ONE Charitra in detail.

All this bozo keeps doing is talking about how everyone is a perv and is frothing at the mouth, weirdo.

Sorry for being rude, but all I have seen is Singh2 repeatedly trying to get a discussion out of these fools, and all they do is insult him, why is admin continuously allowing this, how much evidence do you need?

Maybe because his intelligence level is very low. Since he cannot discuss/debate the issue with Singh2 he tries the derail the topic or make personal attacks. Lack of knowledge on the part of waheguruseeker is what is I see so far.

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All personal tu tu mein mein post between singh2 vs vahiguroo seeker is moved to :

http://www.sikhawareness.com//index.php?sh...mp;#entry101398

please stick to the topic, any off-topics/personal questions will be moved or deleted. Benti to both vahigurooseker and singh2, please re-read your post twice just to make sure you are following the rules and then hit submit post.

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Both what's the use of your personal attacks? Mods! It's Tu mien.com please cut it out both of you!

Tejwant Singh Ji,

Are you an ageist by any chance?

Don't tell me you are just stating the truth. Truth is not just what one knows or has studied acquired in life. Even if it's a fact that someone is 82, you are explicitly stating the age in a negative context which is not in line with teaching anything of any value, rather you are using this to attack someone.

It's like going to an old person and saying 'You old git!'. Note the word 'like' - this is called a simile just in case you try to twist my words.

You claim to hold the higher moral ground yet your words belie this claim.

Suspending your belief for a second, what would you do if you found out you were wrong? Seriously, if this happened you would've spent so much time:

1) Slandering Guru's Bani

2) Inciting others to do the same thus adding a happy bonus multiplier

If I was a betting man (which I am not), even if I had 1% doubt in my mind that I maybe wrong on this one issue I would not even dare to start laying into Dasam Granth for fear of being so slanderously wrong let alone telling other people what I think and causing them to do the same.

For me it's acceptable to say that you don't understand how Dasam Granth fits within Sikhi. Ask intelligent non-loaded condescending questions for sure. Even then you can agree to disagree but trash talk is not Sikh-like in any circumstance. Your conclusions are not truth. They appear to be truth to you as that's all you know. Can you see the lovely little conundrum?

While Gurbani talks about other Shastra limitations, the emphasis is that scripture cannot capture God. God is beyond scripture, beyond religion. This is not the same as condemning these Shastra, rather Guru is delivering the truth that even these attempts at describing God cannot even describe even a minute amount of Him.

Tejwant, this ego is a subtle thing and as much as you talk about tools in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and how it's changed you (which is great), it seems to me that the message has yet to hit home for you. I maybe wrong so no bets on it!

You may figure out tomorrow or later in your life that your world view, your whole paradigm was wrong with respect to a lot of things not just Dasam Granth. That day will be so painful as the ego will resist that realisation like a banshee as it's whole existance is based on the 'knowledge' acquired so far. To be a Sikh is to walk on the path of breaking this ego, make preparations for that day or many days like that. Without these there is no growth.

Finally you say you have studied Dasam Granth.

Lastly, please can you list your formal study of Dasam Granth, the languages you have mastery of, the exegesis tools you used, your teachers if any.

Thanks,

Ishvar Singh

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Both what's the use of your personal attacks? Mods! It's Tu mien.com please cut it out both of you!

Tejwant Singh Ji,

Are you an ageist by any chance?

Don't tell me you are just stating the truth. Truth is not just what one knows or has studied acquired in life. Even if it's a fact that someone is 82, you are explicitly stating the age in a negative context which is not in line with teaching anything of any value, rather you are using this to attack someone.

It's like going to an old person and saying 'You old git!'. Note the word 'like' - this is called a simile just in case you try to twist my words.

You claim to hold the higher moral ground yet your words belie this claim.

Suspending your belief for a second, what would you do if you found out you were wrong? Seriously, if this happened you would've spent so much time:

1) Slandering Guru's Bani

2) Inciting others to do the same thus adding a happy bonus multiplier

If I was a betting man (which I am not), even if I had 1% doubt in my mind that I maybe wrong on this one issue I would not even dare to start laying into Dasam Granth for fear of being so slanderously wrong let alone telling other people what I think and causing them to do the same.

For me it's acceptable to say that you don't understand how Dasam Granth fits within Sikhi. Ask intelligent non-loaded condescending questions for sure. Even then you can agree to disagree but trash talk is not Sikh-like in any circumstance. Your conclusions are not truth. They appear to be truth to you as that's all you know. Can you see the lovely little conundrum?

While Gurbani talks about other Shastra limitations, the emphasis is that scripture cannot capture God. God is beyond scripture, beyond religion. This is not the same as condemning these Shastra, rather Guru is delivering the truth that even these attempts at describing God cannot even describe even a minute amount of Him.

Tejwant, this ego is a subtle thing and as much as you talk about tools in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and how it's changed you (which is great), it seems to me that the message has yet to hit home for you. I maybe wrong so no bets on it!

You may figure out tomorrow or later in your life that your world view, your whole paradigm was wrong with respect to a lot of things not just Dasam Granth. That day will be so painful as the ego will resist that realisation like a banshee as it's whole existance is based on the 'knowledge' acquired so far. To be a Sikh is to walk on the path of breaking this ego, make preparations for that day or many days like that. Without these there is no growth.

Finally you say you have studied Dasam Granth.

Lastly, please can you list your formal study of Dasam Granth, the languages you have mastery of, the exegesis tools you used, your teachers if any.

Thanks,

Ishvar Singh

Ishvar Singh ji,

Guru Fateh.

WHat a shame that you are playing what your name says.:-) Only Ik Ong kaar knows which milestone each of us is at. You, myself or anyone else will never find that out. It is the journey of the individual, hence each of us carry our own spiritual torch.

Sikhi is not about testing others but testing oneself. You talk about my ego when you in you post did nothing but played Ik Ong Kaar. What a sheer arrogance which is sad.

If you have something to share about SGGS, our only Guru, then please do so that we can all learn from that, rather than judging others. Inder Jatt and I go a long way in the past. He is not a Sikh because he flaunts his Jatt caste and hates all other castes. I am sure with your name, you are aware that our Gurus rejected all this nonsense. So, the interaction between him and myself go a long way back. Please read all the threads here and on SPN to gain some knowledge before you jump to conclusions. It is unbecoming of anyone, especially the one whose name is ISHVAR.:-)

Regards

Tejwant Singh

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Dear Sadh Sangat,

Guru Fateh.

Following is an interesting piece of News that I would like to share with you all.

http://www.rozanaspokesman.com/mirro...iew=06&pview=7

You all can read the whole episode by clicking on the above url. But here it is in the nutshell.

Gyani Gurbachan Singh of Akaal Takhat was asked about the recent decision by the Delhi High court about de-criminalising homosexuality in a Canadian radio program called Nachda Punjab.

Gyani Gurbachan Singh replied that this is wrong because not even animals will commit this kind of act.

When the Interviewer asked Gyani ji about his views about the writings of Dasam Granth: Charitar No.109 Page No.964 Lesbian relationship,

Charitar No. 105 Page 952/3 Homosexual relationship,Charitar No. 134 Page No. 1009/1010 anal sex, Gyani ji hung up the phone and left.

Tejwant Singh

THe above news from spokesman was posted here by waheguruseeker. It was opined that spokesman newspaper is a habitual liar and news does not project the facts. Repeated requests for quote of relevant charitras was not heeded to.

Below given is complete charitra no. 109 from Charitropakhayan. I did not find any description of lesbian sex in this charitra. May be whaeguruseeker will point out his views why he considered that a heretic newspaper spokesman is right

when the facts state otherwise.

This is an attempt to nail their false proaganda in the bud so that sangat is not misled by mischievous news.

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

ਯਹ ਚਲਿ ਖਬਰ ਜਾਤ ਭੀ ਤਹਾ ॥ ਬੈਠੀ ਸਭਾ ਧਰਮੁ ਕੀ ਜਹਾ ॥ ਸਵਤਿ ਸਾਲ ਤਿਨ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਹਿ ਨਿਹਾਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਨਿਜੁ ਪਤਿ ਬਾਨ ਸਾਥ ਹਨਿ ਡਾਰਿਯੋ ॥੧॥

यह चलि खबर जात भी तहा ॥ बैठी सभा धरमु की जहा ॥ सवति साल तिन त्रियहि निहारियो ॥ निजु पति बान साथ हनि डारियो ॥१॥

ਧਰਮਰਾਇ ਬਾਚ ॥

धरमराइ बाच ॥

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

ਜਾ ਦੁਖ ਤੇ ਜਿਨ ਇਸਤ੍ਰਿਯਹਿ ਨਿਜੁ ਪਤਿ ਹਨਿਯੋ ਰਿਸਾਇ ॥ ਤਾ ਦੁਖ ਤੇ ਤਿਹ ਮਾਰਿਯੈ ਕਰਿਯੈ ਵਹੈ ਉਪਾਇ ॥੨॥

जा दुख ते जिन इसत्रियहि निजु पति हनियो रिसाइ ॥ ता दुख ते तिह मारियै करियै वहै उपाइ ॥२॥

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

ਉਰਬਸਿ ਪ੍ਰਾਤ ਹੁਤੀ ਸੁ ਨਗਰ ਮੈ ॥ ਨਾਚਤ ਹੁਤੀ ਕਾਲ ਕੇ ਘਰ ਮੈ ॥ ਤਿਹ ਬੀਰੋ ਤਿਹ ਸਭਾ ਉਚਾਯੋ ॥ ਸਕਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਕੋ ਭੇਖ ਬਣਾਯੋ ॥੩॥

उरबसि प्रात हुती सु नगर मै ॥ नाचत हुती काल के घर मै ॥ तिह बीरो तिह सभा उचायो ॥ सकल पुरख को भेख बणायो ॥३॥

ਉਰਬਸੀ ਬਾਚ ॥

उरबसी बाच ॥

ਮੁਸਕਿਲ ਹਨਨ ਤਵਨ ਕੋ ਗੁਨਿਯੈ ॥ ਜਾ ਕੋ ਅਧਿਕ ਸੀਲ ਜਗੁ ਸੁਨਿਯੈ ॥ ਜਾ ਕੋ ਚਿਤ ਚੰਚਲ ਪਹਿਚਾਨਹੁ ॥ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਲਈ ਹਾਥ ਮੈ ਮਾਨਹੁ ॥੪॥

मुसकिल हनन तवन को गुनियै ॥ जा को अधिक सील जगु सुनियै ॥ जा को चित चंचल पहिचानहु ॥ ता को लई हाथ मै मानहु ॥४॥

ਯੌ ਕਹਿ ਨਿਕਸਿ ਮੋਲ ਹਯ ਲਯੋ ॥ ਜਾ ਪੈ ਲਾਖ ਟਕਾ ਦਸ ਦਯੋ ॥ ਚਮਕਿ ਚਲੈ ਜਬ ਤੁਰੇ ਬਿਰਾਜੈ ॥ ਜਾ ਕੋ ਨਿਰਖਿ ਇੰਦ੍ਰ ਹਯ ਲਾਜੈ ॥੫॥

यौ कहि निकसि मोल हय लयो ॥ जा पै लाख टका दस दयो ॥ चमकि चलै जब तुरे बिराजै ॥ जा को निरखि इंद्र हय लाजै ॥५॥

ਆਪ ਅਨੂਪ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਤਨ ਧਾਰੈ ॥ ਭੂਖਨ ਸਕਲ ਜਰਾਇ ਸੁ ਧਾਰੈ ॥ ਲਾਂਬੇ ਕੇਸ ਕਾਂਧ ਪਰ ਛੋਰੇ ॥ ਜਨੁਕ ਫੁਲੇਲਹਿ ਜਾਤ ਨਿਚੋਰੇ ॥੬॥

आप अनूप बसत्र तन धारै ॥ भूखन सकल जराइ सु धारै ॥ लांबे केस कांध पर छोरे ॥ जनुक फुलेलहि जात निचोरे ॥६॥

ਅੰਜਨ ਆਂਜਿ ਆਖਿਯਨ ਦਯੋ ॥ ਜਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਲੂਟਿ ਸਿੰਗਾਰਹਿ ਲਯੋ ॥ ਜੁਲਫ ਜੰਜੀਰ ਜਾਲਮੈ ਸੋਹੈ ॥ ਸੁਰ ਨਰ ਨਾਗ ਅਸੁਰ ਮਨ ਮੋਹੈ ॥੭॥

अंजन आंजि आखियन दयो ॥ जनु करि लूटि सिंगारहि लयो ॥ जुलफ जंजीर जालमै सोहै ॥ सुर नर नाग असुर मन मोहै ॥७॥

ਰਾਜਤ ਭ੍ਰਿਕੁਟਿ ਧਨੁਕ ਸੀ ਭਾਰੀ ॥ ਮੋਹਤ ਲੋਕ ਚੌਦਹਨਿ ਪ੍ਯਾਰੀ ॥ ਜਾ ਕੀ ਨੈਕ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਮੈ ਪਰੈ ॥ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਸਕਲ ਬੁਧਿ ਪਰਹਰੇ ॥੮॥

राजत भ्रिकुटि धनुक सी भारी ॥ मोहत लोक चौदहनि प्यारी ॥ जा की नैक द्रिसटि मै परै ॥ ता की सकल बुधि परहरे ॥८॥

ਲਾਲਨ ਕੋ ਸਰਪੇਚ ਬਧ੍ਯੋ ਸਿਰ ਮੋਤਿਨ ਕੀ ਉਰ ਮਾਲ ਬਿਰਾਜੈ ॥ ਭੂਖਨ ਚਾਰੁ ਦਿਪੈ ਅਤਿ ਹੀ ਦੁਤਿ ਦੇਖਿ ਮਨੋਜਵ ਕੋ ਮਨੁ ਲਾਜੈ ॥ ਮੋਦ ਬਢੈ ਨਿਰਖੇ ਚਿਤ ਮੈ ਤਨਿਕੇਕ ਬਿਖੈ ਤਨ ਕੋ ਦੁਖ ਭਾਜੈ ॥ ਜੋਬਨ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਗੈ ਸੁ ਮਨੋ ਸੁਰਰਾਜ ਸੁਰਾਨ ਕੇ ਭੀਤਰ ਰਾਜੈ ॥੧੮॥

लालन को सरपेच बध्यो सिर मोतिन की उर माल बिराजै ॥ भूखन चारु दिपै अति ही दुति देखि मनोजव को मनु लाजै ॥ मोद बढै निरखे चित मै तनिकेक बिखै तन को दुख भाजै ॥ जोबन जोति जगै सु मनो सुरराज सुरान के भीतर राजै ॥१८॥

ਛੋਰੈ ਹੈ ਬੰਦ ਅਨੂਪਮ ਸੁੰਦਰਿ ਪਾਨ ਚਬਾਇ ਸਿੰਗਾਰ ਬਨਾਯੋ ॥ ਅੰਜਨ ਆਂਜਿ ਦੁਹੂੰ ਅਖਿਯਾਨ ਸੁ ਭਾਲ ਮੈ ਕੇਸਰਿ ਲਾਲ ਲਗਾਯੋ ॥ ਝੂਮਕ ਦੇਤ ਝੁਕੈ ਝੁਮਕੇ ਕਬਿ ਰਾਮ ਸੁ ਭਾਵ ਭਲੋ ਲਖਿ ਪਾਯੋ ॥ ਮਾਨਹੁ ਸੌਤਿਨ ਕੇ ਮਨ ਕੋ ਇਕ ਬਾਰਹਿ ਬਾਧਿ ਕੈ ਜੇਲ ਚਲਾਯੋ ॥੧੯॥

छोरै है बंद अनूपम सुंदरि पान चबाइ सिंगार बनायो ॥ अंजन आंजि दुहूं अखियान सु भाल मै केसरि लाल लगायो ॥ झूमक देत झुकै झुमके कबि राम सु भाव भलो लखि पायो ॥ मानहु सौतिन के मन को इक बारहि बाधि कै जेल चलायो ॥१९॥

ਹਾਰ ਸਿੰਗਾਰ ਕਰੋ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਤਿਨ ਕੇਸ ਛੁਟੇ ਸਿਰ ਸ੍ਯਾਮ ਸੁਹਾਵੈ ॥ ਜੋਬਨ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਗੈ ਅਤਿ ਹੀ ਮੁਨਿ ਹੇਰਿ ਡਿਗੈ ਤਪ ਤੇ ਪਛੁਤਾਵੈ ॥ ਕਿੰਨਰ ਜਛ ਭੁਜੰਗ ਦਿਸਾ ਬਿਦਿਸਾਨ ਕੀ ਬਾਲ ਬਿਲੋਕਨ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ਦੇਵ ਅਦੇਵਨ ਕੀ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਹੇਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭਾ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਬਲ ਜਾਵੈ ॥੨੦॥

हार सिंगार करो सभ ही तिन केस छुटे सिर स्याम सुहावै ॥ जोबन जोति जगै अति ही मुनि हेरि डिगै तप ते पछुतावै ॥ किंनर जछ भुजंग दिसा बिदिसान की बाल बिलोकन आवै ॥ गंध्रब देव अदेवन की त्रिय हेरि प्रभा सभ ही बल जावै ॥२०॥

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

ਐਸੋ ਭੇਖ ਬਨਾਇ ਕੈ ਤਹ ਤੇ ਕਰਿਯੋ ਪਿਯਾਨ ॥ ਪਲਕ ਏਕ ਬੀਤੀ ਨਹੀ ਤਹਾ ਪਹੂੰਚੀ ਆਨਿ ॥੨੧॥

ऐसो भेख बनाइ कै तह ते करियो पियान ॥ पलक एक बीती नही तहा पहूंची आनि ॥२१॥

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

ਏਤੀ ਕਥਾ ਸੁ ਯਾ ਪੈ ਭਈ ॥ ਅਬ ਕਥ ਚਲਿ ਤਿਹ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਪੈ ਗਈ ॥ ਨਿਜੁ ਪਤਿ ਮਾਰਿ ਰਾਜ ਜਿਨ ਲਯੋ ॥ ਲੈ ਸੁ ਛਤ੍ਰੁ ਨਿਜੁ ਸੁਤ ਸਿਰ ਦਯੋ ॥੨੨॥

एती कथा सु या पै भई ॥ अब कथ चलि तिह त्रिय पै गई ॥ निजु पति मारि राज जिन लयो ॥ लै सु छत्रु निजु सुत सिर दयो ॥२२॥

ਮੁਖੁ ਫੀਕੋ ਕਰਿ ਸਭਨ ਦਿਖਾਵੈ ॥ ਚਿਤ ਅਪਨੇ ਮੈ ਮੋਦ ਬਢਾਵੈ ॥ ਸੋ ਪੁੰਨੂ ਨਿਜੁ ਸਿਰ ਤੇ ਟਾਰੋ ॥ ਰਾਜ ਕਮੈਹੈ ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਹਮਾਰੋ ॥੨੩॥

मुखु फीको करि सभन दिखावै ॥ चित अपने मै मोद बढावै ॥ सो पुंनू निजु सिर ते टारो ॥ राज कमैहै पुत्र हमारो ॥२३॥

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

ਸਵਤਿ ਸਾਲ ਤੇ ਮੈ ਜਰੀ ਨਿਜੁ ਪਤਿ ਦਯੋ ਸੰਘਾਰ ॥ ਬਿਧਵਾ ਹੀ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਜੀਵਿ ਹੌ ਜੌ ਰਾਖੇ ਕਰਤਾਰ ॥੨੪॥

सवति साल ते मै जरी निजु पति दयो संघार ॥ बिधवा ही ह्वै जीवि हौ जौ राखे करतार ॥२४॥

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

ਸਵਤਿ ਸਾਲ ਸਿਰ ਪੈ ਤਹਿ ਸਹਿਯੈ ॥ ਬਿਧਵਾ ਹੀ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਕੈ ਜਗ ਰਹਿਯੈ ॥ ਧਨ ਕੋ ਟੋਟਿ ਕਛੂ ਮੁਹਿ ਨਾਹੀ ॥ ਐਸੇ ਕਹੈ ਅਬਲਾ ਮਨ ਮਾਹੀ ॥੨੫॥

सवति साल सिर पै तहि सहियै ॥ बिधवा ही ह्वै कै जग रहियै ॥ धन को टोटि कछू मुहि नाही ॥ ऐसे कहै अबला मन माही ॥२५॥

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

ਮਨ ਭਾਵਤ ਕੋ ਭੋਗ ਮੁਹਿ ਕਰਨਿ ਨ ਦੇਤੋ ਰਾਇ ॥ ਅਬਿ ਚਿਤ ਮੈ ਜਿਹ ਚਾਹਿ ਹੋ ਲੈਹੋ ਨਿਕਟਿ ਬੁਲਾਇ ॥੨੬॥

मन भावत को भोग मुहि करनि न देतो राइ ॥ अबि चित मै जिह चाहि हो लैहो निकटि बुलाइ ॥२६॥

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

ਬੈਠਿ ਝਰੋਖੇ ਮੁਜਰਾ ਲੇਵੈ ॥ ਜਿਹ ਭਾਵੈ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਧਨੁ ਦੇਵੈ ॥ ਰਾਜ ਕਾਜ ਕਛੁ ਬਾਲ ਨ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ ਖੇਲ ਬਿਖੈ ਦਿਨੁ ਰੈਨਿ ਗਵਾਵੈ ॥੨੭॥

बैठि झरोखे मुजरा लेवै ॥ जिह भावै ता को धनु देवै ॥ राज काज कछु बाल न पावै ॥ खेल बिखै दिनु रैनि गवावै ॥२७॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਤਿਨ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਯੌ ਕੀਯੋ ॥ ਬੈਠਿ ਝਰੋਖੇ ਮੁਜਰਾ ਲੀਯੋ ॥ ਸਭ ਸੂਰਨ ਕੋ ਬੋਲਿ ਪਠਾਯੋ ॥ ਯਹ ਸੁਨਿ ਭੇਵ ਉਰਬਸੀ ਪਾਯੋ ॥੨੮॥

एक दिवस तिन त्रिय यौ कीयो ॥ बैठि झरोखे मुजरा लीयो ॥ सभ सूरन को बोलि पठायो ॥ यह सुनि भेव उरबसी पायो ॥२८॥

ਭੂਖਨ ਵਹੈ ਅੰਗ ਤਿਨ ਧਰੇ ॥ ਨਿਜੁ ਆਲੈ ਤੈ ਨਿਕਸਨਿ ਕਰੇ ॥ ਮੁਸਕੀ ਤਾਜੀ ਚੜੀ ਬਿਰਾਜੈ ॥ ਨਿਸ ਕੋ ਮਨੋ ਚੰਦ੍ਰਮਾ ਲਾਜੈ ॥੨੯॥

भूखन वहै अंग तिन धरे ॥ निजु आलै तै निकसनि करे ॥ मुसकी ताजी चड़ी बिराजै ॥ निस को मनो चंद्रमा लाजै ॥२९॥

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

सवैया ॥

ਸ੍ਯਾਮ ਛੁਟੇ ਕਚ ਕਾਂਧਨ ਊਪਰਿ ਸੋਭਿਤ ਹੈ ਅਤਿਹੀ ਘੁੰਘਰਾਰੇ ॥ ਹਾਰ ਸਿੰਗਾਰ ਦਿਪੈ ਅਤਿ ਚਾਰੁ ਸੁ ਮੋ ਪਹਿ ਤੇ ਨਹਿ ਜਾਤ ਉਚਾਰੇ ॥ ਰੀਝਤ ਦੇਵ ਅਦੇਵੇ ਸਭੈ ਸੁ ਕਹਾ ਬਪੁਰੇ ਨਰ ਦੇਵ ਬਿਚਾਰੇ ॥ ਬਾਲ ਕੌ ਰੋਕ ਸਭੈ ਤਜਿ ਸੋਕ ਤ੍ਰਿਲੋਕ ਕੋ ਲੋਕ ਬਿਲੋਕਿਤ ਸਾਰੇ ॥੩੦॥

स्याम छुटे कच कांधन ऊपरि सोभित है अतिही घुंघरारे ॥ हार सिंगार दिपै अति चारु सु मो पहि ते नहि जात उचारे ॥ रीझत देव अदेवे सभै सु कहा बपुरे नर देव बिचारे ॥ बाल कौ रोक सभै तजि सोक त्रिलोक को लोक बिलोकित सारे ॥३०॥

ਹਾਰ ਸਿੰਗਾਰ ਬਨਾਇ ਕੈ ਸੁੰਦਰਿ ਅੰਜਨ ਆਖਿਨ ਆਂਜਿ ਦੀਯੋ ॥ ਅਤਿਹੀ ਤਨ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਅਨੂਪ ਧਰੇ ਜਨ ਕੰਦ੍ਰਪ ਕੋ ਬਿਨੁ ਦ੍ਰਪ ਕੀਯੋ ॥ ਕਲਗੀ ਗਜਗਾਹ ਬਨੀ ਘੁੰਘਰਾਰ ਚੜੀ ਹਯ ਕੈ ਹੁਲਸਾਤ ਹੀਯੋ ॥ ਬਿਨੁ ਦਾਮਨ ਹੀ ਇਹ ਕਾਮਨਿ ਯੌ ਸਭ ਭਾਮਿਨਿ ਕੋ ਮਨ ਮੋਲ ਲੀਯੋ ॥੩੧॥

हार सिंगार बनाइ कै सुंदरि अंजन आखिन आंजि दीयो ॥ अतिही तन बसत्र अनूप धरे जन कंद्रप को बिनु द्रप कीयो ॥ कलगी गजगाह बनी घुंघरार चड़ी हय कै हुलसात हीयो ॥ बिनु दामन ही इह कामनि यौ सभ भामिनि को मन मोल लीयो ॥३१॥

ਸੀਸ ਫਬੈ ਕਲਗੀ ਤੁਰਰੋ ਸੁਭ ਲਾਲਨ ਕੋ ਸਰਪੇਚ ਸੁਹਾਯੋ ॥ ਹਾਰ ਅਪਾਰ ਧਰੇ ਉਰ ਮੈ ਮਨੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਮਨੋਜਵ ਕੋ ਬਿਰਮਾਯੋ ॥ ਬੀਰੀ ਚਬਾਤ ਕਛੂ ਮੁਸਕਾਤ ਬੰਧੇ ਗਜਗਾਹ ਤੁਰੰਗ ਨਚਾਯੋ ॥ ਸ੍ਯਾਮ ਭਨੈ ਮਹਿ ਲੋਕ ਕੀ ਮਾਨਹੁ ਮਾਨਨਿ ਕੋ ਮਨੁ ਮੋਹਨੁ ਆਯੋ ॥੩੨॥

सीस फबै कलगी तुररो सुभ लालन को सरपेच सुहायो ॥ हार अपार धरे उर मै मनु देखि मनोजव को बिरमायो ॥ बीरी चबात कछू मुसकात बंधे गजगाह तुरंग नचायो ॥ स्याम भनै महि लोक की मानहु माननि को मनु मोहनु आयो ॥३२॥

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

ਪ੍ਰਭਾਵਤੀ ਰਾਨੀ ਤਬੈ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਰੂਪ ਨਿਹਾਰਿ ॥ ਰੀਝਿ ਅਧਿਕ ਚਿਤ ਮੈ ਰਹੀ ਹਰ ਅਰਿ ਸਰ ਗਯੋ ਮਾਰਿ ॥੩੩॥

प्रभावती रानी तबै ता को रूप निहारि ॥ रीझि अधिक चित मै रही हर अरि सर गयो मारि ॥३३॥

ਕਬਿਤੁ ॥

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

ਜਬ ਲੌ ਬੈਨ ਕਹਨ ਨਹਿ ਪਾਈ ॥ ਤਬ ਲੌ ਨਿਕਟ ਗਯੋ ਵਹੁ ਆਈ ॥ ਰੂਪ ਨਿਹਾਰਿ ਮਤ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਝੂਲੀ ॥ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਕੀ ਸਕਲ ਤਾਹਿ ਸੁਧਿ ਭੂਲੀ ॥੩੫॥

जब लौ बैन कहन नहि पाई ॥ तब लौ निकट गयो वहु आई ॥ रूप निहारि मत ह्वै झूली ॥ ग्रिह की सकल ताहि सुधि भूली ॥३५॥

ਸੋਰਠਾ ॥

सोरठा ॥

ਪਠਏ ਦੂਤ ਅਨੇਕ ਅਮਿਤ ਦਰਬੁ ਤਿਨ ਕੌ ਦਯੋ ॥ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਮਹੂਰਤ ਏਕ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰੋ ਇਹ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਬਸੋ ॥੩੬॥

पठए दूत अनेक अमित दरबु तिन कौ दयो ॥ कहियो महूरत एक क्रिपा करो इह ग्रिह बसो ॥३६॥

ਕਬਿਤੁ ॥

कबितु ॥

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

सवैया ॥

ਤੇਰੀ ਸੋਭਾ ਸੁਨਿ ਕੈ ਸੁਨਿ ਸੁੰਦਰਿ ਆਯੋ ਈਹਾ ਚਲਿ ਕੋਸ ਹਜਾਰੌ ॥ ਆਜੁ ਮਹੂਰਤ ਹੈ ਤਿਤ ਕੋ ਕਛੁ ਸਾਥ ਮਿਲੈ ਨਹੀ ਤ੍ਰਾਸ ਬਿਚਾਰੌ ॥ ਰੀਤ ਹੈ ਧਾਮ ਇਹੈ ਹਮਰੇ ਨਿਜੁ ਨਾਰਿ ਬਿਨਾ ਨਹੀ ਔਰ ਨਿਹਾਰੌ ॥ ਖੇਲੋ ਹਸੌ ਸੁਖ ਸੋ ਤੁਮ ਹੂੰ ਮੁਹਿ ਦੇਹੁ ਬਿਦਾ ਸਸੁਰਾਰਿ ਸਿਧਾਰੌ ॥੩੯॥

तेरी सोभा सुनि कै सुनि सुंदरि आयो ईहा चलि कोस हजारौ ॥ आजु महूरत है तित को कछु साथ मिलै नही त्रास बिचारौ ॥ रीत है धाम इहै हमरे निजु नारि बिना नही और निहारौ ॥ खेलो हसौ सुख सो तुम हूं मुहि देहु बिदा ससुरारि सिधारौ ॥३९॥

ਬਾਤ ਬਿਦਾ ਕੀ ਸੁਨੀ ਜਬ ਹੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਚੈਨ ਭਈ ਨ ਸੁਹਾਵਤ ਜੀ ਕੀ ॥ ਲਾਲ ਗੁਲਾਲ ਸੀ ਬਾਲ ਹੁਤੀ ਤਤਕਾਲ ਭਈ ਮੁਖ ਕੀ ਛਬਿ ਫੀਕੀ ॥ ਹਾਥ ਉਚਾਇ ਹਨੀ ਛਤਿਯਾ ਉਰ ਪੈ ਲਸੈ ਸੌ ਮੁੰਦਰੀ ਅੰਗੁਰੀ ਕੀ ॥ ਦੇਖਨ ਕੋ ਪਿਯ ਕੌ ਤਿਯ ਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਗਟੀ ਅਖਿਯਾ ਜੁਗ ਜਾਨੁਕ ਹੀ ਕੀ ॥੪੦॥

बात बिदा की सुनी जब ही बिनु चैन भई न सुहावत जी की ॥ लाल गुलाल सी बाल हुती ततकाल भई मुख की छबि फीकी ॥ हाथ उचाइ हनी छतिया उर पै लसै सौ मुंदरी अंगुरी की ॥ देखन को पिय कौ तिय की प्रगटी अखिया जुग जानुक ही की ॥४०॥

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

ਮਨੁ ਤਰਫਤ ਤਵ ਮਿਲਨ ਕੋ ਤਨੁ ਭੇਟਤ ਨਹਿ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਜੀਭ ਜਰੋ ਤਿਨ ਨਾਰਿ ਕੀ ਦੈ ਤੁਹਿ ਬਿਦਾ ਬੁਲਾਇ ॥੪੧॥

मनु तरफत तव मिलन को तनु भेटत नहि जाइ ॥ जीभ जरो तिन नारि की दै तुहि बिदा बुलाइ ॥४१॥

ਕਬਿਤੁ ॥

कबितु ॥

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

सवैया ॥

ਕ੍ਯੋ ਨਿਜੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਤਜਿ ਕੇ ਸੁਨਿ ਸੁੰਦਰਿ ਤੋਹਿ ਭਜੇ ਧ੍ਰਮ ਜਾਤ ਹਮਾਰੋ ॥ ਰਾਜ ਕਰੌ ਅਪਨੇ ਤੁਮਹੀ ਸੁਖ ਸੋ ਇਨ ਧਾਮਨ ਬੀਚ ਬਿਹਾਰੋ ॥ ਮੈ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਿਯੋ ਜਬ ਤੇ ਤਬ ਤੇ ਤਜਿ ਕਾਨਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਨਹਿ ਆਨ ਨਿਹਾਰੋ ॥ ਕ੍ਯਾ ਤੁਮ ਖ੍ਯਾਲ ਪਰੋ ਹਮਰੇ ਮਨ ਧੀਰ ਧਰੋ ਰਘੂਨਾਥ ਉਚਾਰੋ ॥੪੪॥

क्यो निजु त्रिय तजि के सुनि सुंदरि तोहि भजे ध्रम जात हमारो ॥ राज करौ अपने तुमही सुख सो इन धामन बीच बिहारो ॥ मै प्रगटियो जब ते तब ते तजि कानि त्रिया नहि आन निहारो ॥ क्या तुम ख्याल परो हमरे मन धीर धरो रघूनाथ उचारो ॥४४॥

ਕ੍ਰੋਰਿ ਉਪਾਇ ਕਰੋ ਲਲਨਾ ਤੁਮ ਕੇਲ ਕਰੇ ਬਿਨੁ ਮੈ ਨ ਟਰੋਂਗੀ ॥ ਭਾਜਿ ਰਹੋਬ ਕਹਾ ਹਮ ਤੇ ਤੁਮ ਭਾਤਿ ਭਲੀ ਤੁਹਿ ਆਜ ਬਰੋਂਗੀ ॥ ਜੌ ਨ ਮਿਲੋ ਤੁਮ ਆਜੁ ਹਮੈ ਅਬਹੀ ਤਬ ਮੈ ਬਿਖ ਖਾਇ ਮਰੋਂਗੀ ॥ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਕੇ ਦਰਸੇ ਪਰਸੇ ਬਿਨੁ ਪਾਵਕ ਮੈਨ ਪ੍ਰਵੇਸ ਕਰੋਂਗੀ ॥੪੫॥

क्रोरि उपाइ करो ललना तुम केल करे बिनु मै न टरोंगी ॥ भाजि रहोब कहा हम ते तुम भाति भली तुहि आज बरोंगी ॥ जौ न मिलो तुम आजु हमै अबही तब मै बिख खाइ मरोंगी ॥ प्रीतम के दरसे परसे बिनु पावक मैन प्रवेस करोंगी ॥४५॥

ਮੋਹਨ ਬਾਚ ॥

मोहन बाच ॥

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

ਰੀਤਿ ਯਹੈ ਕੁਲ ਪਰੀ ਹਮਾਰੇ ॥ ਸੁ ਮੈ ਕਹਤ ਹੋ ਤੀਰ ਤਿਹਾਰੇ ॥ ਚਲ ਕਿਸਹੁੰ ਕੇ ਧਾਮ ਨ ਜਾਹੀ ॥ ਚਲਿ ਆਵੈ ਛੋਰੈ ਤਿਹ ਨਾਹੀ ॥੪੬॥

रीति यहै कुल परी हमारे ॥ सु मै कहत हो तीर तिहारे ॥ चल किसहुं के धाम न जाही ॥ चलि आवै छोरै तिह नाही ॥४६॥

ਜਬ ਯਹ ਬਾਤ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਹਿ ਸੁਨਿ ਪਾਈ ॥ ਨਿਜੁ ਮਤਿ ਬੀਚ ਯਹੈ ਠਹਰਾਈ ॥ ਹੋ ਚਲਿ ਧਾਮ ਮੀਤ ਕੇ ਜੈਹੋ ॥ ਮਨ ਭਾਵਤ ਕੇ ਭੋਗ ਕਮੈਹੋ ॥੪੭॥

जब यह बात त्रियहि सुनि पाई ॥ निजु मति बीच यहै ठहराई ॥ हो चलि धाम मीत के जैहो ॥ मन भावत के भोग कमैहो ॥४७॥

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥

सवैया ॥

ਆਜੁ ਪਯਾਨ ਕਰੋਗੀ ਤਹਾ ਸਖੀ ਭੂਖਨ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਅਨੂਪ ਬਨਾਊ ॥ ਮੀਤ ਕੇ ਧਾਮ ਬਦ੍ਯੋ ਮਿਲਿਬੋ ਨਿਸ ਹੋਤ ਨਹੀ ਅਬ ਹੀ ਮਿਲ ਆਊ ॥ ਸਾਵਨ ਮੋ ਮਨ ਭਾਵਨ ਕੇ ਲੀਏ ਸਾਤ ਸਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਨ ਕੇ ਤਰਿ ਜਾਊ ॥ ਕ੍ਰੋਰਿ ਉਪਾਉ ਕਰੌ ਸਜਨੀ ਪਿਯ ਕੋ ਤਨ ਕੈ ਤਨ ਭੇਟਨ ਪਾਊ ॥੪੮॥

आजु पयान करोगी तहा सखी भूखन बसत्र अनूप बनाऊ ॥ मीत के धाम बद्यो मिलिबो निस होत नही अब ही मिल आऊ ॥ सावन मो मन भावन के लीए सात समुंद्रन के तरि जाऊ ॥ क्रोरि उपाउ करौ सजनी पिय को तन कै तन भेटन पाऊ ॥४८॥

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

ਜਬ ਤੇ ਮੈ ਭਵ ਮੋ ਭਵ ਲੀਯੋ ॥ ਆਨਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਸੌ ਭੋਗ ਨ ਕੀਯੋ ॥ ਜੌ ਐਸੋ ਚਿਤ ਰਿਝਿਯੋ ਤਿਹਾਰੋ ॥ ਤੌ ਕਹਾ ਬਸਿ ਚਲਤ ਹਮਾਰੋ ॥੪੯॥

जब ते मै भव मो भव लीयो ॥ आनि त्रिया सौ भोग न कीयो ॥ जौ ऐसो चित रिझियो तिहारो ॥ तौ कहा बसि चलत हमारो ॥४९॥

ਨ ਪਿਯਾਨ ਧਾਮ ਤਵ ਕਰੋ ॥ ਨਰਕ ਪਰਨ ਤੇ ਅਤਿ ਚਿਤ ਡਰੋ ॥ ਤੁਮਹੀ ਧਾਮ ਹਮਾਰੇ ਐਯਹੁ ॥ ਮਨ ਭਾਵਤ ਕੋ ਭੋਗ ਕਮੈਯਹੁ ॥੫੦॥

न पियान धाम तव करो ॥ नरक परन ते अति चित डरो ॥ तुमही धाम हमारे ऐयहु ॥ मन भावत को भोग कमैयहु ॥५०॥

ਬਾਤੇ ਕਰਤ ਨਿਸਾ ਪਰਿ ਗਈ ॥ ਤ੍ਰਿਯ ਕੌ ਕਾਮ ਕਰਾ ਅਤਿ ਭਈ ॥ ਅਧਿਕ ਅਨੂਪਮ ਭੇਸ ਬਨਾਯੋ ॥ ਤਾ ਕੌ ਤਿਹ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਓਰ ਪਠਾਯੋ ॥੫੧॥

बाते करत निसा परि गई ॥ त्रिय कौ काम करा अति भई ॥ अधिक अनूपम भेस बनायो ॥ ता कौ तिह ग्रिह ओर पठायो ॥५१॥

ਤਬ ਮੋਹਨ ਨਿਜੁ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਚਲਿ ਆਯੋ ॥ ਅਧਿਕ ਅਨੂਪਮ ਭੇਸ ਬਨਾਯੋ ॥ ਟਕਿਯਨ ਕੀ ਚਪਟੀ ਉਰਬਸੀ ॥ ਮੋਮ ਮਾਰਿ ਆਸਨ ਸੌ ਕਸੀ ॥੫੨॥

तब मोहन निजु ग्रिह चलि आयो ॥ अधिक अनूपम भेस बनायो ॥ टकियन की चपटी उरबसी ॥ मोम मारि आसन सौ कसी ॥५२॥

ਬਿਖਿ ਕੋ ਲੇਪ ਤਵਨ ਮੌ ਕੀਯੋ ॥ ਸਿਵਹਿ ਰਿਝਾਇ ਮਾਂਗ ਕਰਿ ਲੀਯੋ ॥ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਅੰਗ ਤਵਨ ਸੌ ਲਾਗੈ ॥ ਤਾ ਕੈ ਲੈ ਪ੍ਰਾਨਨ ਜਮ ਭਾਗੈ ॥੫੩॥

बिखि को लेप तवन मौ कीयो ॥ सिवहि रिझाइ मांग करि लीयो ॥ जा के अंग तवन सौ लागै ॥ ता कै लै प्रानन जम भागै ॥५३॥

ਤਬ ਲੌ ਨਾਰਿ ਗਈ ਵਹੁ ਆਈ ॥ ਕਾਮਾਤੁਰ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਕੈ ਲਪਟਾਈ ॥ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਭੇਦ ਕਛੂ ਨਹਿ ਜਾਨ੍ਯੋ ॥ ਉਰਬਸਿ ਕੌ ਕਰਿ ਪੁਰਖ ਪਛਾਨ੍ਯੋ ॥੫੪॥

तब लौ नारि गई वहु आई ॥ कामातुर ह्वै कै लपटाई ॥ ता को भेद कछू नहि जान्यो ॥ उरबसि कौ करि पुरख पछान्यो ॥५४॥

ਤਾ ਸੋ ਭੋਗ ਅਧਿਕ ਜਬ ਕੀਨੋ ॥ ਮਨ ਮੈ ਮਾਨਿ ਅਧਿਕ ਸੁਖ ਲੀਨੋ ॥ ਬਿਖੁ ਕੇ ਚੜੇ ਮਤ ਤਬ ਭਈ ॥ ਜਮ ਕੇ ਧਾਮ ਬਿਖੈ ਚਲਿ ਗਈ ॥੫੫॥

ता सो भोग अधिक जब कीनो ॥ मन मै मानि अधिक सुख लीनो ॥ बिखु के चड़े मत तब भई ॥ जम के धाम बिखै चलि गई ॥५५॥

ਉਰਬਸਿ ਜਬ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਬਧ ਕੀਯੋ ॥ ਸੁਰ ਪੁਰ ਕੋ ਮਾਰਗ ਤਬ ਲੀਯੋ ॥ ਜਹਾ ਕਾਲ ਸੁਭ ਸਭਾ ਬਨਾਈ ॥ ਉਰਬਸਿ ਯੌ ਚਲਿ ਕੈ ਤਹ ਆਈ ॥੫੬॥

उरबसि जब ता को बध कीयो ॥ सुर पुर को मारग तब लीयो ॥ जहा काल सुभ सभा बनाई ॥ उरबसि यौ चलि कै तह आई ॥५६॥

ਤਾ ਕੌ ਅਮਿਤ ਦਰਬੁ ਤਿਨ ਦੀਯੋ ॥ ਮੇਰੋ ਬਡੋ ਕਾਮ ਤੁਮ ਕੀਯੋ ॥ ਨਿਜੁ ਪਤਿ ਕੌ ਜਿਨ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਹਿ ਸੰਘਾਰਿਯੋ ॥ ਤਾ ਕੋ ਤੈ ਇਹ ਭਾਤਿ ਪ੍ਰਹਾਰਿਯੋ ॥੫੭॥

ता कौ अमित दरबु तिन दीयो ॥ मेरो बडो काम तुम कीयो ॥ निजु पति कौ जिन त्रियहि संघारियो ॥ ता को तै इह भाति प्रहारियो ॥५७॥

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

ਜਾ ਦੁਖ ਤੇ ਜਿਨਿ ਇਸਤ੍ਰਿਯਹਿ ਨਿਜੁ ਪਤਿ ਹਨ੍ਯੋ ਰਿਸਾਇ ॥ ਤਿਸੀ ਦੋਖ ਮਾਰਿਯੋ ਤਿਸੈ ਧੰਨ੍ਯ ਧੰਨ੍ਯ ਜਮ ਰਾਇ ॥੫੮॥

ਇਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਪਖ੍ਯਾਨੇ ਤ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰੇ ਮੰਤ੍ਰੀ ਭੂਪ ਸੰਬਾਦੇ ਇਕ ਸੌ ਨੌ ਚਰਿਤ੍ਰ ਸਮਾਪਤਮ ਸਤੁ ਸੁਭਮ ਸਤੁ ॥੧੦੯॥੨੦੮੩॥ਅਫਜੂੰ॥

इति स्री चरित्र पख्याने त्रिया चरित्रे मंत्री भूप स्मबादे इक सौ नौ चरित्र समापतम सतु सुभम सतु ॥१०९॥२०८३॥अफजूं॥

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If you have something to share about SGGS, our only Guru, then please do so that we can all learn from that, rather than judging others. Inder Jatt and I go a long way in the past. He is not a Sikh because he flaunts his Jatt caste and hates all other castes. I am sure with your name, you are aware that our Gurus rejected all this nonsense. So, the interaction between him and myself go a long way back. Please read all the threads here and on SPN to gain some knowledge before you jump to conclusions. It is unbecoming of anyone, especially the one whose name is ISHVAR.:-)

The above is by wahegurseeker. It is completely irrelevant to the points so brilliantly put forward by Ishver2. As usual when waheguruseeker is not able to rebut the points he brings in personal attacks to hide his shortcomings.

My request to the moderators, is there a way that this guy is kept in check so that thread is not spoiled by his personal attacks especially when i have put forward charitra no 109 to expose their lies. I am sure there are ways to keep him in check.

To waheguruseeker, i have no asscoiation with you. My interaction with you is on the topics under discussion. It ends here only. The whole charitra is on the message board. Please prove your points.

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Singh2 has posted the Charitar. Now it is up to Vaheguruseeker to prove where the charitar promotes lesbianism. Prove it Vaheguruseeker or just admit defeat and apologise for lying.

The subject charitras have nothing in those that is being propagated by Spokesman. There seems to be well coordinated and systematic compaign to discredit our scriptures. The tragedy with sikhs is that most of them have not read Dasam granth. Dasam Granth has been relegated to archives from its positon of eminence during misl and sikh rule periods. It is noted by a persian historian when sikh army went on a compaign both Granths i.e. SGGS and Dasam granth were taken along. There was a special convoy of soliders in attendance of Granths.

Because of ignorance about the message of Dasam granth and its relevance to sikh panth and its identity some sikhs are being taken in the false propaganda of present day heretics of kala afghana,darshan ragi nd missionary gangs who are very active on internet.

We owe a duty to our future generation to expose these Gurnindaks and not let them go uncontested. Some of them play subtly as the gentleman here. When constantly prompted they bare their hate against Dasam Granth and are exposed. It is heartening to see some sikhs on this forum who have very appreciable knowledge of Gurmat. Let us keep up the pressure.

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Admin, please do not delete this post – it is entirely relevant to the this huge propaganda/insulting/bullying campaign that we have seen from SPN members over the last month or so, who have attacked Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, attacked Sikh traditions, Sikh Institutions, attacked all Sant/Mahapursh, attacked the whole Panth.

Many members of this forum gave them answers to every single one of their questions, yet they failed to answer basic questions put to them numerous times i.e. what does your NITNEM consist of, where is the ‘Fat-heh’ salutation derived from, where does the term ‘Bipran ki reet’ come from, to name just a few. They refused to go into even a basic discussion on any charitras, choosing instead to pick selective lines and call every frothing pervs.

This is clearly a propaganda campaign, which they have also diseased other forums with too (from where they were swiftly and correctly banned). They have contributed absolutely zero and have wasted everyones time here – all they have done is shown how low a human being can go – lower than sewerage.

Their attacks on members here, specifically Singh2 have been disgusting – esp when mentioning family members. The whole episode is an embarrassment and would have been enough to turn away any new sparks developing an interest in Sikhi who happened to come across this forum in the last month.

To conclude – I would just like to share the bullying/insulting attitudes of these cockroaches – this perfectly sums up their behaviour on this forum – accusations, insults, personal attacks, ignorance, phobias, hypocrisy, stupidity, childishness and being a downright insult of the worst kind to the name our pavitar 10th Master – a PM sent to me by ‘Vaheguru Seeker’

“shaheediyan,

The biased moderators have deleted 2 of my posts that were addressed to you in response to your posts to me. This site is full of Hindu mindset and is introducing Hindutva in Sikhi. Lechers like Inder Ram a famous Hindu is ur ring leader. If your picture is on ur Avatar then u r also a lecher and a pervert like Inder Ram and u disrespect your pug.. take it off and put a topi on and Dhoti..:-)”

For your info you degenerate donkey – the photo is of the highly esteemed and legendary Raagi - Professor Kartaar Singh Ji – someone a Neanderthal heathen like you would know nothing about – as it concerns REAL Sikhi. I will do an ardaas for your children – My heart truly and sincerely goes out to them, I pray that Akaal Purkh gives them the strength not to be influenced by you.

Namaste.

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Tejwant Singh,

I love your suitably slippery reply.

I am going to judge your posts based on what you write. Judging is involved to participate. You can’t escape it. It’s just a matter of what level you take it to.

The type of judgement I am using on this forum is not all knowing or pervasive in the slightest, but then I don’t claim I am God just because my name is Ishvar Singh as you suggest.

I really respect your ability to use my name against me, that’s pretty intelligent. You have a stunning character it’s really shining for all to see, it’s so blinding and so inspirational. A true manifestation of all that is good in Sikhi.

‘Only Ik Ong kaar knows which milestone each of us is at. You, myself or anyone else will never find that out. It is the journey of the individual, hence each of us carry our own spiritual torch.’

I actually like this, but again this statement contradicts the fact that you have zero tolerance for Dasam Granth believing Sikhs and old people and fellow forum members and their families. You go so far as to personally attack them and their women. It’s very honourable of you.

The real beauty of your above logic is that it can be used to justify any type of behaviour. I now understand why you feel you can say anything you like - you can hide behind this reasoning for absolutely any situation. It’s the magic bullet for you.

Someone can judge you based on your posts and you’ll effectively say ‘Only God can judge me’ despite the fact you judge continuously on this forum. One word: hypocrite. You binary logic is rubbish and is not bi-directional hence while it’s logically complete but ethically flawed. It’s simply ‘I can do it you can’t judge me, you do it and I can judge you.’

Someone wants to challenge your trash talking of Dasam Granth (which is the point of this thead – why are you posting on here otherwise?) and you’ll post ‘If you have something to share about SGGS, our only Guru, then please do so that we can all learn from that, rather than judging others.’ when no one here challenges Guru Granth Sahib and you are the one who cannot defend your own honour by replying to genuine questions posted to you about your posts.

You judge far more than you think – look in the mirror. It’s shiny for a reason.

‘Sikhi is not about testing others but testing oneself.’

If you really think that then what are you doing on this forum? You are testing other patience with your evasive and disgusting tactics for sure.

‘You talk about my ego when you in you post did nothing but played Ik Ong Kaar.’

Played Ik Ong Kaar? How? I’d love you to explain how I’ve expressed gunns of the Almighty - the master of all gunns.

‘Please read all the threads here and on SPN to gain some knowledge before you jump to conclusions.’

No conclusions were jumped upon. I’ve read all the posts here especially your posts. I merely pointed out that the sum of your knowledge is not truth but yet you still continue to treat it as such. Trust me you’ll regret this.

I am going to repeat my questions since you answered zilch zero nada:

Are you an ageist by any chance?

Suspending your belief for a second, what would you do if you found out you were wrong?

Lastly, please can you list or describe how you formally studied of Dasam Granth, the languages you have mastery of, the exegesis tools you used, your teachers if any?

Plus new questions:

Are you a fascist and a hinduphobe as well, although this seems like a rhetorical question given your PM to Shaheediyan! You character is shining more than ever!

We all want straight answers, honest answers and no deviations.

If you continue to ignore/evade/side step these questions and the key stuff singh2 posted just now then it categorically proves you are a cretin and you should be banned from all forums including SPN as you have no forum etiquette which is a bare minimum.

Personally, I don’t even care about you answering my questions. Answer Singh2 Ji’s as he has posted the Charitra.

If you have any concept of preserving your honour you’d come out either offer a counter argument, or admit defeat and apologise.

You seem like a coward and that is unbecoming of someone called Tejwant Singh. Come out and prove me wrong, if you can.

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Admin, please do not delete this post – it is entirely relevant to the this huge propaganda/insulting/bullying campaign that we have seen from SPN members over the last month or so, who have attacked Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, attacked Sikh traditions, Sikh Institutions, attacked all Sant/Mahapursh, attacked the whole Panth.

Many members of this forum gave them answers to every single one of their questions, yet they failed to answer basic questions put to them numerous times i.e. what does your NITNEM consist of, where is the ‘Fat-heh’ salutation derived from, where does the term ‘Bipran ki reet’ come from, to name just a few. They refused to go into even a basic discussion on any charitras, choosing instead to pick selective lines and call every frothing pervs.

This is clearly a propaganda campaign, which they have also diseased other forums with too (from where they were swiftly and correctly banned). They have contributed absolutely zero and have wasted everyones time here – all they have done is shown how low a human being can go – lower than sewerage.

Their attacks on members here, specifically Singh2 have been disgusting – esp when mentioning family members. The whole episode is an embarrassment and would have been enough to turn away any new sparks developing an interest in Sikhi who happened to come across this forum in the last month.

To conclude – I would just like to share the bullying/insulting attitudes of these cockroaches – this perfectly sums up their behaviour on this forum – accusations, insults, personal attacks, ignorance, phobias, hypocrisy, stupidity, childishness and being a downright insult of the worst kind to the name our pavitar 10th Master – a PM sent to me by ‘Vaheguru Seeker’

“shaheediyan,

The biased moderators have deleted 2 of my posts that were addressed to you in response to your posts to me. This site is full of Hindu mindset and is introducing Hindutva in Sikhi. Lechers like Inder Ram a famous Hindu is ur ring leader. If your picture is on ur Avatar then u r also a lecher and a pervert like Inder Ram and u disrespect your pug.. take it off and put a topi on and Dhoti..:-)”

For your info you degenerate donkey – the photo is of the highly esteemed and legendary Raagi - Professor Kartaar Singh Ji – someone a Neanderthal heathen like you would know nothing about – as it concerns REAL Sikhi. I will do an ardaas for your children – My heart truly and sincerely goes out to them, I pray that Akaal Purkh gives them the strength not to be influenced by you.

Namaste.

Singh sahib

He has already undergone an ID change like administrator of SPN. After their exposure of tactics she became Naryannyan kaur from anthonia. Waheguruseeker is no more waheguruseeker. His new ID is tejwant Singh. So all records are changed. There is a systematic way of fooling others.

Person like him can only use vulgar language to derail the discussion. He has not come out with any explanation to justify his assertions. He is distorting our

scriptures and calling us RSS. What a sham.

Many good things happen when sangat is awakened by the propagnda of these anti sikh forces. They have been crying all along that Dasam granth sahib is written by Poets Ram and shyam. They were told that these were pen names of Guru sahib. They won't belive.

Now the charitra posted here have both names ram and shyam in it.

See verse 19 and underneath verse 32.

ਝੂਮਕ ਦੇਤ ਝੁਕੈ ਝੁਮਕੇ ਕਬਿ ਰਾਮ ਸੁ ਭਾਵ ਭਲੋ ਲਖਿ ਪਾਯੋ ॥ ਮਾਨਹੁ ਸੌਤਿਨ ਕੇ ਮਨ ਕੋ ਇਕ ਬਾਰਹਿ ਬਾਧਿ ਕੈ ਜੇਲ ਚਲਾਯੋ ॥੧੯॥

ਸ੍ਯਾਮ ਭਨੈ ਮਹਿ ਲੋਕ ਕੀ ਮਾਨਹੁ ਮਾਨਨਿ ਕੋ ਮਨੁ ਮੋਹਨੁ ਆਯੋ ॥੩੨॥

That means poets Ram and shyam are one person and that is guru sahib as indicated in another composition. That trashes their conspiracy theory.

Waheguruseekeer aka Tejwant singh claims that he has studied ( Not read but studied) Dasam granth sahib. He need to come out of closet and tell us what type of study he did. Please come and explain here.

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Singh ji where does it say that Guru Sahib is poet Ram and Shyam? and are'nt Ram and Shyam names of Vishnu's avatars?

Is Guru Sahib identiying himself with Ram and Shyam in the Bachitar Natak section of Dasam Granth (im not talking about chaubis avatar here) ? Is the two names mentioned in the apni katha chapter?

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Singh ji where does it say that Guru Sahib is poet Ram and Shyam? and are'nt Ram and Shyam names of Vishnu's avatars?

Ram and shyam come as pen names of Guru gobind singh ji in Dasam granth in some compositions along with Gobind.

Some heretcis carry out a propganda that Dasam granth is written by poets Ram and shyam and not by Guru sahib.

In the charitra 109 both names Ram and shyam come. That means they are one person. So they are no separate

persons.

These words will mean different as per context. They may be Names of Vishnu. Also they may be names used for akal purakh.

Both these names have been used in SGGS for akal purakh. They may be names of persons.

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Is Guru Sahib identiying himself with Ram and Shyam in the Bachitar Natak section of Dasam Granth (im not talking about chaubis avatar here) ? Is the two names mentioned in the apni katha chapter or other places in bachitar natak?

Amardeep singh ji

Let us go slowly one by one.

It is established that Ram and shyam are one person when referred as writers in Dasam Granth. let us not bring Ram and shyam as names of vishnu in this dicussion as it is clarified by me .

We know that Gobind is mentioned as writer in Dohra of ram avtar we raed in rehras sahibeveryday.

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

DOHRA

ਸਗਲ ਦੁਆਰ ਕੋ ਛਾਡਿ ਕੈ ਗਹਿਯੋ ਤੁਹਾਰੋ ਦੁਆਰ ॥ ਬਾਂਹਿ ਗਹੇ ਕੀ ਲਾਜ ਅਸਿ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਦਾਸ ਤੁਹਾਰ ॥੮੬੪॥

सगल दुआर को छाडि कै गहियो तुहारो दुआर ॥ बांहि गहे की लाज असि गोबिंद दास तुहार ॥८६४॥

O Lord ! I have forsaken all other doors and have caught hold of only Thy door. O Lord ! Thou has caught hold of my arm; I, Govind, am Thy serf, kindly take (care of me and) protect my honour.864.

Ram Avtar

Now read invocation of Chaubis avtar. It mentions about poet shyam. Read the whole invocation

and invocation denotes the belief of a writer. It will not be difficult to establish about identity of poet shyam.

He is Guru sahib himself.

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

CHAUPAI

ਅਬ ਚਉਬੀਸ ਉਚਰੋਂ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ ॥

अब चउबीस उचरों अवतारा ॥

Now I describe the wonderful performance of twenty-four incarnations.

ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧ ਤਿਨ ਕਾ ਲਖਾ ਅਖਾਰਾ ॥

जिह बिध तिन का लखा अखारा ॥

In the way I visualized the same;

ਸੁਨੀਅਹੁ ਸੰਤ ਸਭੈ ਚਿਤ ਲਾਈ ॥

सुनीअहु संत सभै चित लाई ॥

O saints; listen to it attentively.

ਬਰਨਤ ਸਯਾਮ ਜਥਾ ਮਤ ਭਾਈ ॥੧॥

बरनत सयाम जथा मत भाई ॥१॥

The poet Shyam is narrating it according or his own under-standing.1.

Chaubis avtar

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Gobind das, could also refer to the "slave of God". A term used by any devote person.

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Gobind das, could also refer to the "slave of God". A term used by any devote person.

Read the whole dohra. It is personal from writer to akal purakh. Hence name of writer.

And also read verses before Dohra

ਸ੍ਵੈਯਾ ॥

स्वैया ॥

SWAYYA

ਪਾਂਇ ਗਹੇ ਜਬ ਤੇ ਤੁਮਰੇ ਤਬ ਤੇ ਕੋਊ ਆਂਖ ਤਰੇ ਨਹੀ ਆਨਿਯੋ ॥ ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਅਨੇਕ ਕਹੈਂ ਮਤਿ ਏਕ ਨ ਮਾਨਿਯੋ ॥

पांइ गहे जब ते तुमरे तब ते कोऊ आंख तरे नही आनियो ॥ राम रहीम पुरान कुरान अनेक कहैं मति एक न मानियो ॥

O God ! the day when I caught hold of your feet, I do not bring anyone else under my sight; none other is liked by me now; the Puranas and the Quran try to know Thee by the names of Ram and Rahim and talk about you through several stories, but I do not accept any of their opinions;

ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬੇਦ ਸਭੈ ਬਹੁ ਭੇਦ ਕਹੈ ਹਮ ਏਕ ਨ ਜਾਨਿਯੋ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਸਿਪਾਨਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਕਰਿ ਮੈ ਨ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਸਭ ਤੋਹਿ ਬਖਾਨਿਯੋ ॥੮੬੩॥

सिम्रिति सासत्र बेद सभै बहु भेद कहै हम एक न जानियो ॥ स्री असिपानि क्रिपा तुमरी करि मै न कहियो सभ तोहि बखानियो ॥८६३॥

The Simritis, Shastras and Vedas describe several mysteries of yours, but I do not agree with any of them. O sword-wielder God! This all has been described by Thy Grace, what power can I have to write all this?.863.

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

DOHRA

ਸਗਲ ਦੁਆਰ ਕੋ ਛਾਡਿ ਕੈ ਗਹਿਯੋ ਤੁਹਾਰੋ ਦੁਆਰ ॥ ਬਾਂਹਿ ਗਹੇ ਕੀ ਲਾਜ ਅਸਿ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਦਾਸ ਤੁਹਾਰ ॥੮੬੪॥

सगल दुआर को छाडि कै गहियो तुहारो दुआर ॥ बांहि गहे की लाज असि गोबिंद दास तुहार ॥८६४॥

O Lord ! I have forsaken all other doors and have caught hold of only Thy door. O Lord ! Thou has caught hold of my arm; I, Govind, am Thy serf, kindly take (care of me and) protect my honour.864.

ਇਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੇ ਰਾਮਾਇਣ ਸਮਾਪਤਮ ॥

इति स्री बचित्र नाटक ग्रंथे रामाइण समापतम ॥

BENIGN END OF THE RAMAYANA.

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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

Dear all!

I did not know that Sayaam means poet Shyam.

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Please ponder this.

ਸੁਨੀਅਹੁ ਸੰਤ ਸਭੈ ਚਿਤ ਲਾਈ ॥

सुनीअहु संत सभै चित लाई ॥

Suneehau sant sabhai chit laaee.

By listening Saints everybody's chit becomes attentive.

ਬਰਨਤ ਸਯਾਮ ਜਥਾ ਮਤ ਭਾਈ ॥੧॥

बरनत सयाम जथा मत भाई ॥१॥

Barnat sayaam jathaa mat bhaaee.

(He) describes Sayaam as (his) understanding, brother.

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Quote from Singh2 Jee "You know now that Ram means poet ram at certain places."

Which dictionary learned people are using these days?

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Dalsingh101 Jee,

Strange, some people want to become Gobind Daas without knowing Gobind.

Balbir Singh

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