Singh123456777 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I was at a nihang dal and a nihang who had to do granthi seva made some degh and he became totally out of it.Somebody else had to do the granthi seva. I went to damdama sahib and there was a nihang make degh there.Me and my father decided to ask him some questions about the degh.We asked him what his opinion about the Bhai desa Singh rehitnama were it mentions ganja and not to use it.He said he doesn't believe in any modern rehits and he only believes what he thinks is puratan.We asked if he can live with out it and he said no.He then showed us his arm which has been broken for over 30 years.He said he doesn't need to fix it.Afterwards he got frustrated and told us to leave.If sukh Niddan make a person into an addict who doesn't repair their injuries then I don't need any of that stuff. Also if you guys want some more stories about some Nihangs who were high just ask me. Sukh Niddan should only be used as a painkiller when somebody is badly wounded and only then.I don't try getting high on Advil but only use it as a painkiller when my body is aching or my head is hurting bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 what you say is true , unnecessary pushing in drugs and addiction is not in lines with Gurbani so such actions cannot be condoned. Doing it round the year is killing and the effect on brain is damaging. If had on ocassions and in moderation then it would be a different case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh123456777 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 what you say is true , unnecessary pushing in drugs and addiction is not in lines with Gurbani so such actions cannot be condoned. Doing it round the year is killing and the effect on brain is damaging. If had on ocassions and in moderation then it would be a different case. It should only be used when badly injured.There should be no exceptions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I couldn't give a toss about these minor infringements. If the crap hit the fan and people were getting murdered no one would care if a fighter took cannabis or alcohol as long as they did their job to fight and protect. That's the truth of our history. That's not to condone drug taking or alcoholism (too many people use our history as some sort of justification for their behaviour in this dept.), but an acknowledgement of ground realities when the shit hits the fan. If you read Panth Prakash Bhangu explains bhang taking as a mood enhancer in times of acute stress but too many of the type of kuttarh fudus who'd never put their neck on the line and live comfortable lives want to ignore this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 you tell them dally! singh ji, what you experienced with the nihnags is something that the Dal Panth are well aware of, that the abuse of Sukh nidhan happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAadmin Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I wonder which party nihangs are voting for this year in canadian elections? hehe..if liberals or ndp win, free shahedi degha for everyone :) lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Singh123456777 Posted October 2, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I wonder which party nihangs are voting for this year in canadian elections? hehe..if liberals or ndp win, free shahedi degha for everyone :) lollolĀ My stance on shaheedi degh has slightly changed. In my opinion only nihangs should take it and only use the five patey and no more. I was in india in January and I stayed at a nihang taksal and they did an akhand paath of Sri Guru Granth Sahib and Sri dasam gur darbar. In the end they made shaheedi degh and served it to everybody. When I mean everybody I mean EVERYBODY. There were kids aged 10 who also drank it lol. They never got super high. I never drank any and opted for shardai instead. So my point is in moderation like 5 patey it's not the worst but how I previously encountered some druggie nihangs that should stop. After reading puratan granths/rehitnamas and seeing a few puratan pics I accept that it can be used by ONLY nihangs or anybody who lives that warrior lifestyle forever. A grishti or bhagti oriented person shouldn't take shaheedi degh ever. This also applies to jatkha.Ā 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Well as per posts from another thread, we now know more about the cannabinoids in the plant and how some of them can be, and are, used medicinally, so we know there are reasons for imbibing outside of wanting to get high.Ā Ā Edited October 3, 2015 by dalsingh101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 5 pattey is fine , bhaang is legal where i stay ...there are licensed shops here ..i had it a few times and felt high ..the quality is fresh and got a good kick...if you 'fight' with it to relieve yourself of the 'high'Ā it hits back .Ā 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 I find the 5 pattey thing fascinating because normally people imbibe the buds which haveĀ a MUCH higher THC content, notĀ the leaves?Ā 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 @jaikaara r u a nihang ? On ā3ā/ā10ā/ā2015 at 6:24 PM, jaikaara said: 5 pattey is fine , bhaang is legal where i stay ...there are licensed shops here ..i had it a few times and felt high ..the quality is fresh and got a good kick...if you 'fight' with it to relieve yourself of the 'high'Ā it hits back . Ā Ā 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 On 10/28/2016 at 2:13 AM, tva prasad said: @jaikaara r u a nihang ? Ā naa ji a monna sehajdhari 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just now, jaikaara said: naa ji a monna sehajdhari ur r into to weapons n nihang stuff so I asked. : D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just now, tva prasad said: ur r into to weapons n nihang stuff so I asked. : D Shastars are my interest and since the last few years i managed to learn a little about them .With Gurukirpa i have had some virtual sangat and met the DalPanth during Dussehra at Hazur Sahib , last 2 years i haven't been able to go ..i attended Dussehra Halla every year from 2010-2014 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just now, jaikaara said: Shastars are my interest and since the last few years i managed to learn a little about them .With Gurukirpa i have had some virtual sangat and met the DalPanth during Dussehra at Hazur Sahib , last 2 years i haven't been able to go ..i attended Dussehra Halla every year from 2010-2014 COOL!!! do u know how to do gatka? I love ā¤ gatka SO MUCH!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 14 hours ago, tva prasad said: COOL!!! do u know how to do gatka? I love ā¤ gatka SO MUCH!!!! Nahi yaar i did wish to learn but the only people who teach in our city are from AKJ which in no way will teach sehajdhaaris. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 10 hours ago, jaikaara said: Nahi yaar i did wish to learn but the only people who teach in our city are from AKJ which in no way will teach sehajdhaaris. sad. you can learn it from youtube too, there are online tutorials. that's where i learnt some of the moves from. it's ready handy to learn gatka.Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaikaara Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 12 hours ago, tva prasad said: sad. you can learn it from youtube too, there are online tutorials. that's where i learnt some of the moves from. it's ready handy to learn gatka.Ā acha? i seen some demos didnt know there were tutorials , i have learnt some stick fencing years back and a few moves of sword fencing . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 5 hours ago, jaikaara said: acha? i seen some demos didnt know there were tutorials , i have learnt some stick fencing years back and a few moves of sword fencing . all u have to do I type in "gatka tutorials" on youtube/ google (videos). It shows u how to use all sorts of weapons (teer, talwar, neja, etc.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh Regarding poppy seeds aka cuss cuss, I was walking past a few desi shops recently and came across many sikh shop owners selling dry poppy batteh. Question I wanted to ask Ā if you are able to use unrefined poppy seeds(not the ones you get from TRS and natco packets etc) should this be an option?Ā Also what wood is traditionally used by singhs to do ragra?. Ā Sorry tva parshad, learning how to use weaponary via website videos can be dangerous! please be careful. However most weaponary used by gatka students is blunt. I personally find the new craze gatka disgusting and disrespectful to women and guruji. Regard Crystal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Also if sukh niddan was only used as a pain killer then why does rattan singh bhangru's granth mention numerous times one of the first things the likes of baba gurbaxs singh ji shaheed was to do ragra then start his day or sukha singh shaheed drinking degh and going for a walk/ planning skirmish/ambush attacks on mughals/afghans. http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/news/sunday-special/people/nihangs-wrestle-with-bhang-legacy/280357.html Crystal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tva prasad Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 @crystal u r not supposed to use real weapons as a beginner anyway. Use something to represent a sword. p.s. How is gatka disrespectfull to women and guru ji??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 4 hours ago, tva prasad said: @crystal u r not supposed to use real weapons as a beginner anyway. Use something to represent a sword. p.s. How is gatka disrespectfull to women and guru ji??? It is disrespectful to every single khalsa of old, have a look at the picture I have attached. This topic is about DEGH, however gatka does not have any true strikes. If you think of two armies meeting in battle formation where would spinning and jumping in the air come into the equation? You would be picked off by arrows, projectiles, bullets and even a cut by a sword/stabbed. It is disrespectful to women as they were taught how to defend themselves with daggers, other weapons, fighting in groups etc to overcome the rapist/robber/mughal. Read Rattan Singh Bhangus granth on how singhnis attacked and fought. Ā Take an account of Guru Hargobind jis in battle, he killed his enemy in one strike/stroke of his sword not many strikes.Ā To align a group of guys showing how macho they are with no true vidiya to the likes of gurujis vidiya is disrespectful.Ā We need to learn true arts and learn how to defend ourselves, whatever they maybe, BJJ, m thai, boxing, the streets is not a gatka competition, I do not see how gatka can be used when your attacker could be within an arms length and you don't have a soti in your hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 On 04/11/2016 at 9:53 AM, Crystal said: Ā Also what wood is traditionally used by singhs to do ragra?. Neem. Look at what passes for gatka these days: Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chatanga1 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Good to see you back Crystal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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