Jathedar Sri Akal Takhat Sahib On Darshan Singh Ragi

[singh2]

Giani Gurbachan Singh, Jathedar Sri Akal Takhat Sahib, talks to JUS Punjabi TV on the Maryada of Sri Akal Takhat Sahib in giving someone Tankhah and other Panthic issues including Ragi Darshan Singh's failure to appear before Sri Akal Takhat Sahib

Jathedar Gurbachan Singh reveals how Darshan Singh, while serving as the Jathedar Akal Takhat, used to hold meetings of the Singh Sahibaans at his residence in Ludhiana, and now is showing reservations in appearing before the Singh Sahibaans at Akal Takhat Secretariat which is located at Sri Akal Takhat Sahib complex

P.S. This interview of Giani Gurbachan Singh is from an hour long TV programme that was conducted on JUS Punjabi to review to the situation after Darshan Singh Ragi failed to appear before the Takhat. Full video with the views of Sikh scholar Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu, Professor and Head, Guru Gobind Singh Department of Relgious Studies, Punjabi University Patiala, is also posted in the below link.

[Mighty Kaur]

Giani Gurbachan Singh, Jathedar Sri Akal Takhat Sahib, talks to JUS Punjabi TV on the Maryada of Sri Akal Takhat Sahib in giving someone Tankhah and other Panthic issues including Ragi Darshan Singh's failure to appear before Sri Akal Takhat Sahib

Jathedar Gurbachan Singh reveals how Darshan Singh, while serving as the Jathedar Akal Takhat, used to hold meetings of the Singh Sahibaans at his residence in Ludhiana, and now is showing reservations in appearing before the Singh Sahibaans at Akal Takhat Secretariat which is located at Sri Akal Takhat Sahib complex

P.S. This interview of Giani Gurbachan Singh is from an hour long TV programme that was conducted on JUS Punjabi to review to the situation after Darshan Singh Ragi failed to appear before the Takhat. Full video with the views of Sikh scholar Dr. Harpal Singh Pannu, Professor and Head, Guru Gobind Singh Department of Relgious Studies, Punjabi University Patiala, is also posted in the below link.

[Mighty Kaur]

Gurbachan Singh is propagting the issue. Everyone know that Prof. Darshan Singh went to Sri Akal Takht Sahib. It was in news on TV and Newspaper. In the letter sent to Prof. it was written to appear at Akal Takht, not in the room. Right? So where is the question of not appearing.

But now the question arises, Jathedars who themselves are "Tankhiya", can they call they summon someone else. For instance:

1. Iqbal Singh, Jathedar Patna Sahib & Jathedar Hazoor Sahib, Kulwant Singh are themselves Tankhaiya, as at Patna Sahib, DG prakash is done at par with SGGS, Aarti and Bell ringing are done, which are against Sikh Rehat Maryada.

2. Giani Gurbachan Singh is Tankhaiya too, as he has faith in DG also, and promotes DG, bows in front of DG,which is against Sikh Rehat Maryada

So how can all these summon Prof. to Sri Akal Takht. Prof. is awakening the Sikhs against the bad part of DG, not against Nitnem Banis.

[Kam1825]

Mighty Kaur you chat some shit!

[Xylitol]

Why is being summoned to speak at a room near the Akaal Takht an issue when the professor used to hold meetings with the punj Singhs in his home???

[pr1tpal]

Kam veerji, you took the words right out of my mouth.

[singh2]

Kam has used the right words.

Whole khalsa panth promotes DG.Only a few heretisc who can be counted on fingers are propagating against DG.

May i ask this mighty kaur

1) Why Darshan Ragi writes himself as professor? He is a 10 grade pass> Does that not show he has no ethics.

2) Darshan ragi used to hold these meetings at his home at Ludhiana a distance of 70 miles from Amritsar sahib.

3) He is a sharabi and kababi as reported by panthic.org. Is it OK for his thug followers.

Mighty kaur see these vidoes before you write bukwas here

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=5ssWDw8Qfno

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LRjFvvyJYiE

Edited January 2, 2010 by singh2

[Mithar]

Gurbachan Singh is propagting the issue. Everyone know that Prof. Darshan Singh went to Sri Akal Takht Sahib. It was in news on TV and Newspaper. In the letter sent to Prof. it was written to appear at Akal Takht, not in the room. Right? So where is the question of not appearing.

But now the question arises, Jathedars who themselves are "Tankhiya", can they call they summon someone else. For instance:

1. Iqbal Singh, Jathedar Patna Sahib & Jathedar Hazoor Sahib, Kulwant Singh are themselves Tankhaiya, as at Patna Sahib, DG prakash is done at par with SGGS, Aarti and Bell ringing are done, which are against Sikh Rehat Maryada.

2. Giani Gurbachan Singh is Tankhaiya too, as he has faith in DG also, and promotes DG, bows in front of DG,which is against Sikh Rehat Maryada

So how can all these summon Prof. to Sri Akal Takht. Prof. is awakening the Sikhs against the bad part of DG, not against Nitnem Banis.

MK, since when has a person become a Tankhiyaa by believing in Sri Dasam Granth? It is you Kala Afghanist heretics who are the Tankhiyaas. Stop spreading lies.

From what I have seen, all you Kala Afghanist people are just propagandists and sensationalists. You have little or no gurmat giyaan. Your so called scholars are:

- Kala Afghana: who is a sexual pervert

- Prof Inderjeet Sinh Gagha: is not even a real professor since he did not even go to college.

- Prof Darshan Singh: is also not a real professor since he did not go to college. He is only a 10th grade pass. And during militancy days he was considered a government agent by the militant Singhs, and rightly so as he is finally showing is true colours (green white orange).

-Harmann Mann aka KhalsaFauj, I don’t even consider him to be a schollor. But he is always shouting out how he wants to debate. When the Sikh scholars in India challenged these Kala Afghanists to a debate, Singhs all over the internet offered to buy Harman Mann is free ticket to India so he can finally debate, but like a fake schollor he is, he has remained quiet like a coward.

-Gurcharan Sinh Jeowala, is another top dog of the Kala Afghanist movement. He is not even an Amritdhari, yet he wants to change Sikhism. He is just another pretend scholar who is just a truck driver.

This is the reality of these Kala Afghanist schollors.

[shaheediyan]

"Harmann Mann aka KhalsaFauj, I don’t even consider him to be a schollor."

Lol, sorry, thats a classic.

Regarding debating with PWeeHerman, I know his tactics, he has a special weapon which he uses when he talks in order to rip the enemies inner ear drums with super high frequencies.... Helium! Take the Helium away and you are left with nowt!

MK, are you Prof Darshan Singh in disguise? Certainly sounds like it, as only he is able to regurgitate such nonsense.

Edited January 3, 2010 by shaheediyan

[singh2]

Gurcharan Sinh Jeowala, is another top dog of the Kala Afghanist movement. He is not even an Amritdhari, yet he wants to change Sikhism. He is just another pretend scholar who is just a truck driver.

He is a comrade and not a sikh even.He has no following and proved to be a coward when confronted by singhs at baisakhi sikh parade at Toronto.The following is written by one of his friends at kala afghana site sikhmarg. He was so scared that he failed to show up on hearing.

Had he read dasam Garnth he would have behave like a man and not woman.

Following is from a kala afghna site sikh marg psoted by a friend of so called president of Singh Sabha canada, truck driver Gurucharan Jeonwala.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php/topic/49435-singh-sabha-canada-seems-to-be-a-phoney-outfit/

The letter shows that these gurunindaks have no following and have presence on internet only. They were distributing CD's of Darshan ragi. They were challenged by panthic singhs and they had no will to stand against them. They fled the scene.

Bunch of cowards and thugs.They have no base at all.

Below is letter of Darshan singh Ghankas a friend of gurucharan Jeonwala

ਦਲਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਹੋਠੀ ਜੀ ਸਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਆਕਾਲ।

ਤੇਰੀ 23/12/09, ਵਾਲੀ ਕਵਿਤਾ ਪੜ੍ਹ ਲਈ ਹੈ, ਹੇਠਾਂ ਮੈ ਉਸ ਦਾ ਉਤਰ ਲਿਖ੍ਹ ਰਿਹਾਂ ਹਾਂ।

ਦੱਲਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਤਾਂ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਵਧਾਈ ਹੋਵੇ, ਕਿਉਂਕਿ ਤੂੰ ਸਿਖ੍ਹੀ ਸਰੂਪ ਵਾਲਾ ਬਣ ਗਿਆਂ ਹੈਂ, ਤੈਨੂੰ ਹੁਣ ਸਮਝ ਆ ਗਈ ਹੈ, ਕਿ ਸਿਖ੍ਹੀ ਸਰੂਪ ਤੋਂ ਬਿਨਾ ਸਿਖ੍ਹ ਨਹੀ ਕਿਹਾ ਜਾ ਸੱਕਦਾ, ਇਸ ਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਹੀ ਤੂੰ ਆਪਣੇ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਗੁਰਚਰਨ ਸਿੰਘ (ਥਰਮਾਮੀਟਰ) ਬਰਾਰ ਦਾ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਕੰਡਮ ਕਰ ਦਿਤਾ ਹੈ, ਕਿਉਕਿ ਤੇਰਾ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਤਾਂ ਲਿਖਦਾ ਸੀ, ਕਿ ਸਰੂਪ ਵਿੱਚ ਸਿਖ੍ਹੀ ਨਹੀ ਹੈ।

ਤੇਰੀ ਕਵਿਤਾ ਤੋ ਸਾਫ ਜਾਹਰ ਹੈ, ਕਿ ਤੂੰ ਹਾਲੇ ਬਚਪਨ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੀ ਘੁਮ ਰਿਹਾਂ ਹੈ।

ਤੂੰ ਪ੍ਰਫੈਸਰ ਤਰਲੋਚਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਦੀ ਬਾਂਹ ਫੜਨ ਦੀ ਗੱਲ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ, ਬਿਲਕੁਲ ਸਹੀ ਗੱਲ ਹੈ, ਵਿਾਚਾਰਾਂ ਦੀ ਸਾਝ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੈ, ਜਿ ਕਰ ਪ੍ਰਫੈਸਰ ਤਰਲੋਚਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਟੋਰਾਂਟੋ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੁੰਦਾ, ਤਾਂ ਮੈ ਜਰੂਰ ਹੀ ਲੋੜ ਪੈਣ ਤੇ ਉਸਦੇ ਨਾਲ ਖੜਦਾ।

ਮੈ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਤੇਰੇ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਦੀ ਬਾਂਹ ਫੜਣ ਦੀ ਕਹਾਣੀ ਸਣਾਉਦਾਂ ਹਾਂ, ਜਰਾ ਧਿਆਨ ਦੇਵੀਂ ਅਤੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਤੋਂ ਪਤਾ ਜਰੂਰ ਕਰ ਲਵੀਂ, ਤੇ ਫੇਰ ਸਿਖ੍ਹ ਮਾਰਗ ਤੇ ਦੱਸੀਂ ਕਿ ਇਹ ਗੱਲ ਠੀਕ ਹੈ, ਜਾਂ ਗਲਤ ਹੈ। ਇਹ ਗੱਲ 2008 ਦੀ ਵਿਸਾਖੀ ਵਾਲੇ ਦਿਨ ਦੀ ਹੈ, ਗੁਰਚਰਨ, ਮੈਂ, ਜਸਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਮਾਂਗਟ ਅਤੇ ਦੋ ਚਾਰ ਹੋਰ ਬੰਦੇ, ਸਿੰਘ- -ਸਭਾ ਦੇ ਵਲੋਂ ਟੇਪਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਰਸਾਲੇ ਵਗੈਰਾ ਵੰਡ ਰਹੇ ਸੀ, ਸਾਮ ਦੇ 6 ਕੁ ਵਜੇ ਦਾ ਸਮਾ ਸੀ, 5-7 ਸਿੰਘ ਆਏ, ਅਤੇ ਆ ਕਿ ਤੇਰੇ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਦੀ ਬਾਂਹ ਫੜ ਲਈ, ਅਤੇ ਉਸਦੀ ਖਿਚ ਧੂ ਕਰਨ ਲੱਗੇ, ਮੈ ਤੇਰੇ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਦੀ ਬਾਂਹ ਛਡਵਾਉਣ ਦੀ ਕੋਸਿਸ ਕੀਤੀ, ਅਤੇ ਹੋਰ ਵੀ ਬੰਦਿਆਂ ਨੇ ਕੋਸਿਸ ਕੀਤੀ ਅਤੇ ਜੱਸਵੀਰ ਸਿਘ ਮਾਂਗਟ ਨੇ ਵੀ ਬੜੀ ਹੱਲਾ ਸੇਰੀ ਦਖਾਈ, ਉਹ ਸਿੰਘ ਕਹਿ ਰਹੇ ਸਨ, ਕਿ ਤੈਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰ ਬੰਦ ਕਰ ਦਿਆਂ ਗੇ, ਅਤੇ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਸੋਧਾ ਐਸਾ ਲਾਵਾਂ ਗੇ ਕਿ ਤੂੰ ਲੰਬਣਾ ਨਹੀ, ਰੋਲਾ ਰੱਪਾ ਪੈ ਗਿਆ, ਜਸਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਪੂਲਸ ਲੈਣ ਭੱਝ ਗਿਆ, ਜਲਦੀ ਹੀ ਪੂਲਸ ਆ ਗਈ, ਅਤੇ ਪ਼ੁਲਿਸ ਨੇ ਉਨ੍ਹਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਨੂੰ ਹਟਾ ਦਿਤਾ, ਅਤੇ ਚਲੇ ਜਾਣ ਦੀ ਹਦਾਇਤ ਕੀਤੀ ਅਤੇ ਉਹ ਸਿੰਘ ਚਲੇ ਗਏ, ਅਤੇ ਸਾਡੀਆਂ ਟੇਪਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਕਿਤਾਬਾਂ ਦਾ ਬਕਸਾ ਚੁਕ ਕੇ ਲੈ ਗਏ, ਅਸੀਂ ਬੜੇ ਪਰੇਸਾਨ ਸਾਂ, ਕਿ ਇਹ ਕੀ ਬਣਿਆ।

ਹਾਲੇ ਅਸੀਂ ਆਲਾ ਦਵਾਲਾ ਦੇਖ੍ਹ ਹੀ ਰਹੇ ਸਾਂ, 4-5 ਸਿੰਘ ਫਿਰ ਚੜ੍ਹ ਕੇ ਆ ਗਏ, ਗੁਰਚਰਨ ਨੂੰ ਬੂਰਾ ਭਲਾ ਕਹਿਣ ਲਗੇ, ਉਨ੍ਹਾ ਦੀਆਂ ਮਿਨਤਾਂ ਤਰਲੇ ਕਰਕੇ ਅਸੀ ਖਹਿੜਾ ਛੱਡਵਾਇਆ, ਅਸੀ ਵਾਕਿਆ ਹੀ ਘਬਰਾ ਗਏ ਸੀ, ਸਾਨੂੰ ਨਹੀ ਪਤਾ ਸੀ, ਕਿ ਲੋਕ ਗੁਰਚਰਨ ਨੂੰ ਦੇਖਣਾ ਪਸੰਦ ਨਹੀ ਕਰਦੇ।

ਅਸੀ ਘਰਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਜਾਣ ਦੀ ਤਿਆਰੀ ਕਰ ਲਈ, ਕਿ ਵੇਲੇ ਸਿਰ ਸੁਖ ਸਾਂਦ ਨਾਲ ਘਰ ਮੁੜ ਜਾਈਏ ਤਾਂ ਚੰਗਾ ਹੈ। ਗੁਰੂ ਦੀ ਕਰਨੀ ਐਸੀ ਹੋਈ ਕਿ 3-4 ਚਾਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਫੇਰ ਆ ਗਰਜੇ ਅਤੇ ਗੁਰਚਰਨ ਨੂੰ ਕਹਿਣ ਲੱਗੇ ਕਿ ਤੈਨੂੰ ਭਸਮ ਕਰ ਦਿਆਂ ਗੇ, ਲੋਕਾਂ ਨੇ ਅੱਗੇ ਹੋ ਕਿ ਗੁਰਚਰਨ ਦਾ ਬੱਚ ਬਚਾ ਕੀਤਾ, ਉਸ ਦਿਨ ਤੋਂ ਇਹ ਪੱਕਾ ਪਤਾ ਚੱਲ ਗਿਆ ਕਿ ਗੁਰਚਰਨ ਦਾ ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰ ਟੋਰਾਂਟੋ ਵਿੱਚ ਕਰਨਾ ਬਹੁਤ ਖਤਰਨਾਕ ਹੈ। ਜਿਸ ਤਰਫ ਤੋਂ 3 ਵਾਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਧਾਵਾ ਕਰ ਕੇ ਆਏ ਸਨ, ਅਸੀਂ ਉਸ ਪਾਸੇ ਨਹੀ ਗਏ, ਅਸੀ ਪਿਛਇਉਂ ਦੀ ਲੁਕ ਲਕਾ ਕੇ ਆਪਣੀ ਕਾਰ ਵਿੱਚ ਆ ਗਏ, ਅਸੀਂ ਵੜੇ ਘੱਬਰਾਏ ਹੋਏ ਸੀ।

ਖੈਰ, ਦੋ ਸਿੰਘਾ ਤੇ ਚਾਰਜ ਭਰ ਦਿਤੇ ਗਏ ਸਨ, ਅਤੇ ਜਦੋਂ ਤਾਰੀਖ ਆਈ ਤਾਂ ਤੇਰਾ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਕਚੇਰੀ ਨਹੀ ਜਾ ਸਕਿਆ, ਅਤੇ ਚਾਰਜ ਖਤਮ ਹੋ ਗਏ ਸਨ।

ਨਿਕੇ ਵਾਈ ਦਲਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ, ਟੋਰਾਂਟੋ ਵਿੱਚ ਆ ਜਾਉ, ਕਿਉਕਿ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਦੁਨਿਆਵੀ ਗੁਰੁ ਨੂੰ ਕਿਸੇ ਵੇਲੇ ਵੀ ਤੂਹਾਡੀਆਂ ਬਾਂਹਾਂ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਜਰੂਰ ਪੈ ਸਕਦੀ ਹੈ। ਦੂਰੋਂ ਬੈਠ ਕਿ ਭੱਬਕੀਆਂ ਨਾ ਮਾਰਿਆ ਕਰੋ।

ਜਦੋਂ ਦਾ ਇੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਘੱਗਾ, ਇਸ ਸਾਹਿਰ ਵਿੱਚ ਗੁਰੂ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਵਾਰੇ, ਇੱਕ ਕਿਤਾਬ ਵਿੱਚ ਇਹ ਲਿਖ ਬੈਠਾ ਕਿ, ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਜਦੋਂ ਮੱਕੇ ਗਏ ਸਨ, ਤਾਂ ਉਨ੍ਹਾ ਨੂੰ ਮੂਲਾਂ ਦੇ ਘਰ ਰਹਿਸ ਮਿਲੀ ਸੀ ਅਤੇ, ਮੂਲਾਂ ਦੇ ਘਰ ਰਹਿਣ ਕਰਕੇ ਮਾਸ ਖਾਣਾ ਪਿਆ ਸੀ।

ਜਿਸ ਤਰਾਂ ਗੁਰਚਰਨ ਨੂੰ ਅਸਲੀਲ ਗੱਲਾਂ ਲਿਖਣ ਦੀ ਬਿਮਾਰੀ ਹੈ, ਇਸੇ ਤਰਾਂ ਇਦੰਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਘੱਗੇ ਨੂੰ ਵੀ ਅੱਬਲੀਆਂ ਜੱਬਲੀਆਂ ਲਿਖਣ ਦੀ ਬਿਮਾਰੀ ਹੈ। ਇਹ ਹੀ ਕਾਰਣ ਹੈ ਕਿ, ਨਾ ਗੁਰਬਚਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਥਾਈਲੈਂਡ, ਨਾ ਇੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਘੱਗਾ, ਨਾ ਗੁਰਚਰਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਬਰਾਰ ਟੋਰਾਂਟੋ ਵਿੱਚ ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰ ਕਰਨ ਤੋਂ ਅਸੱਫਲ ਹਨ।

ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰ ਪਿਆਰ ਅਤੇ ਨਿਮਰਤਾ ਨਾਲ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ, ਧੱਕੇ ਨਾਲ ਨਹੀ।

ਆਖਿਰ ਵਿਚ: ਤੂੰ ਕਈ ਵਾਰ ਮੇਰੇ ਅਸਥੀਫੇ ਦੀ ਗੱਲ ਕਰਦਾਂ ਹੈ, ਤੂੰ ਆਪਦੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਨੂੰ ਆਖ ਕਿ ਮੇਰੇ ਅੱਸਥੀਫੇ ਦੀ ਕਾਪੀ ਸਿਖਮਾਰਗ ਤੇ ਪਾਵੇ ਅਤੇ ਜੋ ਵੀ ਼ਲਿਖਣਾ ਹੈ, ਸਾਰਾ ਲਿਖੇ ਅਤੇ ਮੈ ਜਬਾਬ ਦੇ ਹਾਂ। ਜੇ ਤੇਰੇ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਨੂੰ ਮੇਰੇ ਨਾਲ, ਆਡਾ ਲੈਣ ਦਾ ਚਾ ਹੈ, ਤਾਂ ਮੀਟਿੰਗ ਬਲਾ ਕੇ, ਮੇਰਾ ਅਸਥੀਫਾ ਵਾਪਸ ਕਰ ਦੇਣ, ਫਿਰ ਮੈਥੋਂ ਲੈ ਲੈਣ, ਫਿਰ ਵੇਖਣਗੇ ਕੇਹੜੇ ਭਾ ਵਿਕਦੀ ਹੈ। ਜੇ ਮੈ, ਅਸਥੀਫਾ ਆਪਣੀ ਖੁਸੀ ਨਾਲ ਨਾ ਦਿੰਦਾਂ ਤਾਂ ਫਿਰ ਕੋਈ ਕੁੱਝ ਨਹੀ ਸੀ ਕਰ ਸਕਦਾ, ਜੇ ਹੁਣ ਵੀ ਚਾਹਾਂ ਤਾਂ ਕਾਨੂੰਨ ਰਾਹੀ, ਲੱੜ ਕੇ ਨਹੀ, ਤੇਰੇ ਉਸਤਾਦ ਦੇ ਨਾਨਕੇ ਯਾਦ ਕਰਵਾ ਸੱਕਦਾਂ ਹਾਂ।

ਤੇਰਾ ਵੱਡਾ ਵੀਰ,

ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਘਣਕਸ

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[singh2]

"Harmann Mann aka KhalsaFauj, I don’t even consider him to be a schollor."

Lol, sorry, thats a classic.

Regarding debating with PWeeHerman, I know his tactics, he has a special weapon which he uses when he talks in order to rip the enemies inner ear drums with super high frequencies.... Helium! Take the Helium away and you are left with nowt!

MK, are you Prof Darshan Singh in disguise? Certainly sounds like it, as only he is able to regurgitate such nonsense.

May be she is a follower of this sharabi kababi darshan ragi

[Mighty Kaur]

When there is a discussion, you all need to learn one thing : Mind your language.

Except a few so called "Khalsa", Taksalis, Babas, illetrate Nihangs and few pseudo scholars like Lamba, Pannu and few more are promoting DG. Rest whole of th epanth has only one Guru ie; SGGS.

as Gurbani says "Khasam admin cut duje lage, dubbe se vanjareya"

Leaving the true guru, going to another thug guru, those people will definitely drown

Who gave the permision to have the DG parkash at par with SGGS? Did Guru Gobind Singh give? No, then who r u all people to put DG with SGGS? This shows the insanity of you people. You don't have faith in SGGS, that's why you wander here & there.

Reg ur questions : You all don't have no proofs that he is 10th grade. Moreover, I even don't need. Prof. Darshan Singh is way better than your DG scholars who don't even know how to speak. Your so called scholar pseudo Baba, Hari SIngh Randhawe wala, ran, leaving the stage at Newyork, when he himself said thet I will not debate with Jeonwala, I will debate only with Prof. Prof. came there even though he got news few minutes before that his brother Bhai Zorawar SIngh has drowned at Hari ke pattan. Despite that big heartbreaking news, Prof. came for debate. This shows the strength which can only come, if one beleives only in one Guru ie; Shabad guru Sri Guru Granth Sahib.

Now you will say, he was challenged before at Damdama Sahib, who were they? All Nihangs and few others who don't have any authority. Prof. even told that if Sri Akal Takht Sahib calls him, then he will go. These so called Nihangs, who doesn't have nothing to do, just capturing peoples land, eating, taking Sukha, afeem and other intoxicants, wearing mountain like dumallas of no use, wearing big kirpans and other shastars, just for display. Where were these Nihangs when Kharkoo Singhs laid there life for panth, Young sikhs from normal families came out for Sikhi. Not a single nihang laid his life then and even during Sirsa wala Sadh episode. These Nihangs are just burden on earth and on sikhi.

Question 2 : Ans: Were you with him when Prof. holded his meeting at his home. Just throwing stones in dark... See the world with your own eyes, not with Panthic.org or Lamba's specs.

You all are baffled with the response Prof. gets from Sikhs. Read the newspapers, and watch TV then you will know how many programs does he has in India.

Regarding Panthic.org, that site has just all crap against Prof. Nothing else to do, real bukwas.

Any one else, having any question, reply to this. Before your Admin blocks my user. coz you all like to discuss who have similar thoughts as you all have. Discusion is always fruitful, when someone has difference of opinion. I don't mind whatever you may write about me, it will just show how literate you are, how is ur upbringing and how you talk to another person.

Kam has used the right words.

Whole khalsa panth promotes DG.Only a few heretisc who can be counted on fingers are propagating against DG.

May i ask this mighty kaur

1) Why Darshan Ragi writes himself as professor? He is a 10 grade pass> Does that not show he has no ethics.

2) Darshan ragi used to hold these meetings at his home at Ludhiana a distance of 70 miles from Amritsar sahib.

3) He is a sharabi and kababi as reported by panthic.org. Is it OK for his thug followers.

Mighty kaur see these vidoes before you write bukwas here

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=5ssWDw8Qfno

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LRjFvvyJYiE

[Matheen]

Different person, same nonsense.

Biba, where has anyone said that Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not our Guru? The strongest evidence that Guru Granth Sahib Ji was formally given Gurgaaddi is found in Dasam Bani!

, illetrate.....

It's spelled 'illiterate'.

[singh2]

Might kaur

The fact is that anti dasam granth brigade has not seen the gates of any university.Most of them are with 8 or 10 grades with 6 month course from a missionary school.

before you do bukwas on this point further check your sources and you will find that what i stated is correct.

Edited January 4, 2010 by singh2

[singh2]

Might kaur

Let me ask you one question so that we know from where you speak.

Do you believe in sikh literature other than SGGS ji.That is important to know before replying to your bukwas.

You need to shed some ignorance about sharabi kababi darshan ragi

1) It is a fact that he is 10 grade pass and was employed as a compounder at Jagroan(Ludhiana district)

Compounder means a low grade para medic who packs medicine.

2) It is also a fact that when called on JUS TV for clarifying his blasphemic remarks he could not read even one line from Dasam Granth.

3) It is a fact that he does not know the language of dasam granth.

4) It is a fact that his name appears in MK dhar's book "OPen secrets" and is mentioned as

an agent.

There is another challenge for him from dasam granth parbodh sabha asking him to come for discussion. He has not responded and will never respond. May be he is too busy with his sharab kabab.

[Kam1825]

Mighty Kaur just to keep you updated with the views of the forum: YOU CHAT SHIT!!!!!!

[Mighty Kaur]

Might kaur

Let me ask you one question so that we know from where you speak.

Do you believe in sikh literature other than SGGS ji.That is important to know before replying to your bukwas.

You need to shed some ignorance about sharabi kababi darshan ragi

1) It is a fact that he is 10 grade pass and was employed as a compounder at Jagroan(Ludhiana district)

Compounder means a low grade para medic who packs medicine.

2) It is also a fact that when called on JUS TV for clarifying his blasphemic remarks he could not read even one line from Dasam Granth.

3) It is a fact that he does not know the language of dasam granth.

4) It is a fact that his name appears in MK dhar's book "OPen secrets" and is mentioned as

an agent.

There is another challenge for him from dasam granth parbodh sabha asking him to come for discussion. He has not responded and will never respond. May be he is too busy with his sharab kabab.

Now you came to the point. SGGS is our only Guru and DG & other granths can be sikh literatures. Anyone has the right to read any scripture, but no one has the right to parkash DG at par with SGGS and claim DG as Guru, as few of the Taksalis in UK, 2 Takhts in India, anpad Nihangs are doing.

I speak from where everyone speaks, if you speak from something different place, u might have some problem. Get it checked. LOL.....

Ans 1. Before becoming something everyone has to do some kind of jobs. By the way, compounder is not a low profile job, he needs to know about the medicines first, then he can do. Moreover no job is low profile, its ur state of mind which makes it.

Ans 2. He was reading it, you couldn't listen and not even tried to listen. Moreover for ur kind information he was saying that he cannot read properly as light is not proper. Furthermore, he had a eye problem before he went to India. Check local newspaper of Toronto for that.

Ans 3. How do you know that he doesn't knows the language. You are putting all these so called facts, as you live right beside him. I wrote in my earlier reply, that he accepted the challenge from your so called Baba Hari Singh Randhawe wala, where ur baba ran from stage. How did Prof. go there, without knowlegde!!! Come on man be realistic, don't just make forts in air.

Ans 4. MK Dhar is not a God, he has written what came to his mind, and what Govt. wanted him to write.

About Dasam Granth Parbodh Sabha, the newly created organisation to counter Anti-DG brigade. What a joke. All Babas, and few pseudo scholars. Challenge can be accepted, but before that they need to accept Sri Akal Takht Sahib's Sikh Rehat Maryada, which none of these follow. Nihangs, Taksals and all these Babas have their own maryada. Dhuma and party do Chalihe, hawan, 25 singh's Akhand Paath, DG parkash and all other crappy rituals which is against Sikh Rehat Maryada. How can there be discussion, untill they leave all this and come on atleast a common plateform.

He is not busy in sharab & kabab (I think u like it, that's why you write it), as told earlier too read newspapers and watch TV, he is busy in Kirtan Samagams everywhere. People have responded to the call going against the verdict of puppet Jathedars.

Veerji, open ur eyes, and see the world with Guru's eyes.

Rab Rakha

[Mighty Kaur]

Mighty Kaur just to keep you updated with the views of the forum: YOU CHAT SHIT!!!!!!

As told earlier, Mind ur language. But its not ur fault, reading too much of Charitropakhyan, will lead to this. By the way, If I chat Shit, you lick that SHIT!!!!!!

[Mighty Kaur]

Kam veerji, you took the words right out of my mouth.

Kam Veerji is busy in Kaam. You wrote absolutely right "Kam veerji, you took the words right out of my mouth" He is writing shit, and u r spitting shit, thats what comes out of ur mouth, right.

[dalsingh101]

Real scholarly debate folks...hee hee

[Mighty Kaur]

Why is being summoned to speak at a room near the Akaal Takht an issue when the professor used to hold meetings with the punj Singhs in his home???

Were you there with him? Don't write baseless. See the pics at http://www.khalsanews.org/Dec2009l.htm

Moreover as you wrote "when the professor used to hold meetings with the punj Singhs in his home"

What's wrong conducting a meeting in a home? Every Jathedar can conduct. But this is not a meeting, its an issue related to Sikh Panth. If Prof. Darshan Singh is at fault, and he himself said that he is ready to answer their questions in front of sangat, so what is the problem? This was the golden chance for Jathedars to prove Prof wrong, if he was. But the Jathedars knew that if they came out, then their chances to hold ground are not favorable.

See the whole video of Prof of Rochester Kirtan and listen to it properly. Then read that story 21 of Chartropakhyan in DG, then read its translation, then view the video of Giani Shavinder Singh pro DG, who also narrated the same story. Then come to conclusion. If Giani Shavinder SIngh was not summoned, why Prof then?

See the following :

- 23 Aug 2009 Full Video of Prof. Darshan Singh at Rochester Gurudwara, New York

http://www.wakeupkhalsa.com/video-shabad.php

- 23 Feb 2008 Giani Savinder Singh's video on Anoop Kaur (view after 30min track)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5920466114844553222#

- Dr. Jodh Singh's Hindi Translation of DG (only Anoop Kaur episode in this file)

http://www.khalsanews.org/articles/Dasam%20Granth_Dr.Jodh%20Singh-Anoop%20Kore.pdf

Truth about Giani Iqbal Singh : http://www.singhsabhacanada.com/Video/34

Coz these puppet Jathedars work under Boss Badal. Due to the SGPC elections in near future, only Prof. was thier main enemy who can damage them. So they tried to eliminate him. But, its all way round now. Sikhs are conducting Kirtan Samagams every where.

Hope it helps.

[Matheen]

So you agree that 'prof' doesn't understand the language used in Sri Dasam Granth and needs translations. In effect, his entire argument against Sri Dasam Granth is based on his lack of knowledge?

He tried to put the blame on Dr Jodh Singh's translations at first, but Dr Jodh Singh came on TV with a copy of his book and guess what - it says no such thing.

[gogidalsingh]

4) It is a fact that his name appears in MK dhar's book "OPen secrets" and is mentioned as

an agent.

The name Jasbir Rode is the writing in the Open Secret and the names is Mokham Singhs they do the writes they are the government agent peoples. So the why is the Baba Dhumma being the friend this peoples the agent. I doing this read the sikhsangat boards when you not do the my ban.

Edited January 5, 2010 by gogidalsingh

[Kam1825]

Mighty kaur judging by your agenda you must have starred in one of the Charritars, stirring trouble, those Charittars were a warning against venomous trecherous troubled women like you!

[gogidalsingh]

Kam is writing the true mightykaurs is writing the wrong bad ones replies and the same is being the inder. Lets do the admin do them mighty kaur and inder the ban this forum for doing the all times fighting. Inder do the ban everyones the sikhsangat forum because he is having the admins code and now the mehtab singh is doing the leave sikh sangat because this problems all times people do fights the sikhsangat forum. sikhsangat i thinking do the names change fightsangats forum.