Sat1176 Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 I was reading Discourse on the Beyond again by Sant Baba Waryam Singh in which Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji (Rare Wale) mentions a jugti for jaaping Mool Mantar which can be obtained from Sants. Does anyone now any techniques for this? I assume it something along the lines of swas swas simran or chakras. There are loads of techniques out there for Waheguru simran but I have never come across something for the mool mantar. Any insight from abhiyaasi Sikh's would be much appreciated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anhad Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 dear sat1176ji, have you came across jugti for reciting or jaaping mool mantar as mentioned by sant baba waryam singh...if so.........kindly reveal for benefit of all abhiyaasi ......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 I have heard some people try and jap long mantras in one breath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted October 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Guruma stated that to gain mantra siddhi one must do (1 lakh = 100,000 ) repetitions per syllable of the mantra.So for example Wa-He-Gu-Ru would need to be done 4 x 100,000 = 400,000 timesMool mantar up to GurPrasaad is 25 x 100,000 = 2,500,000Up to Nanak hosi bhi sach is 40 x 100,000 = 4,000,000 Edited October 9, 2015 by Sat1176 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Guruma stated that to gain mantra siddhi one must do (1 lakh = 100,000 ) repetitions per syllable of the mantra. Paaji, can you please explain what "Mantar Sidhi" is?ThanksBhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anhad Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 dear sat1176 paaji, iam asking about jugti in urs reference ''I was reading Discourse on the Beyond again by Sant Baba Waryam Singh in which Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji (Rare Wale) mentions a jugti for jaaping Mool Mantar which can be obtained from Sants'' any way......repetitions per syllable of the mantra. will be more effective with inhalation and exhalation..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anhad Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 must watch................01: Secret of Meditation in Gurmukhi (Naam Simran di Yukti ...www.youtube.com/watch?v=02QDqYHlixA Secret of Meditation (Naam Simran di Yukti) narrated in Gurmukhi by Bhai Dalip Singh ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anhad Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 there are about 16 videos on naam simran by Bhai Dalip Singh Darveshi........must for naam abhiyasi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 By dear sat1176 paaji, iam asking about jugti in urs reference ''I was reading Discourse on the Beyond again by Sant Baba Waryam Singh in which Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji (Rare Wale) mentions a jugti for jaaping Mool Mantar which can be obtained from Sants'' any way......repetitions per syllable of the mantra. will be more effective with inhalation and exhalation.....Have not found the answers directly for those but think it will be something along the lines I posted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Paaji, can you please explain what "Mantar Sidhi" is?ThanksBhul chuk maafI believe it's when a mantra becomes awakened and potent in the person doing its jaap. One becomes perfect in its jaap and the subtle powers of the mantar begin to manifest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I believe it's when a mantra becomes awakened and potent in the person doing its jaap. One becomes perfect in its jaap and the subtle powers of the mantar begin to manifest. Thanks paaji. Please do provide more details, if possible.Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lucky Posted October 18, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) I believe it's when a mantra becomes awakened and potent in the person doing its jaap. One becomes perfect in its jaap and the subtle powers of the mantar begin to manifest. That's good.............but Sat, it's actually a little more than that.You see the mantra itself helps to wake up and manifest the powers of the MIND. Our limited buddhi doesn't even realise the powers that are hidden and tucked away in this Jyot Saroop Mann.Thus, Mantra is a 'tool' that is specific in knocking and waking that mind.NOTE ...man-tra is man=Mind and tra= Tool. Edited October 18, 2015 by Lucky 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ragmaala Posted November 4, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 In this video, Gurmaa talks about mantra sadhana, mantra siddhi and how to do a long term repetition of a mantra. some key points : Same time every day, same duration same asana, same mala, clean clothes, and ishnaan before japa sanjam in life one can do pranayama before starting japa types of japa : upanshu ( whispering), swaas swaas ( breath), mansik ( mental) for long mantra such as mool mantra, one can do 1 moolmantar with one breath in, and 1 moolmantra as the breath goes out. Enjoy the video: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raju Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 On 3/26/2010 at 9:49 AM, Sat1176 said: I was reading Discourse on the Beyond again by Sant Baba Waryam Singh in which Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji (Rare Wale) mentions a jugti for jaaping Mool Mantar which can be obtained from Sants. Does anyone now any techniques for this? I assume it something along the lines of swas swas simran or chakras. There are loads of techniques out there for Waheguru simran but I have never come across something for the mool mantar. Any insight from abhiyaasi Sikh's would be much appreciated. Read the book Shabad Surat Marg by his holiness Sant Waryam Singh ji. It details the path from Mool Mantar to Gur Mantar, which is what this eludes to (I had the fortune of spending time with them). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 On 10/10/2015 at 4:37 PM, Sat1176 said: I believe it's when a mantra becomes awakened and potent in the person doing its jaap. One becomes perfect in its jaap and the subtle powers of the mantar begin to manifest. Bro, have you ever tried to Sidh a Mantar? Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sat1176 Posted June 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 6 hours ago, paapiman said: Bro, have you ever tried to Sidh a Mantar? Bhul chuk maaf Not in any intense way. Only completed seva lakh mool mantars but not in a fixed time frame. Daily average at the time varied between 500-1000 japs/day and think I even missed out a day here and there. Most of my japs were done on my way to work so wasnt even doing them with full dhyan or seated. Back then I never knew about doing in dhyan , it was more about doing numbers. Faster and quicker was the goal. How naive. A mahapursh once gave me a shabad to do with very strict protocols, but by that time I had transitioned to Gurmantar jaap. So it felt like I was going backward so I never did it. Nowadays I have no desire to do any other shabads or paaths although do try and read SGGS whenever I can just to keep me motivated. Anytime I remember it's always back to Gurmantar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Sat1176 said: Not in any intense way. Talked to a Gurmukh about it. Gurbani Mantar Sidhi (in some cases) can be a very dangerous task. Gurparsaad, will make a new topic on it. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ragmaala Posted June 2, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 2 hours ago, paapiman said: Talked to a Gurmukh about it. Gurbani Mantar Sidhi (in some cases) can be a very dangerous task. Gurparsaad, will make a new topic on it. looking forward to it. I still have not finished my sankalpa of sava lakh mool mantar jaap. Can unfinished sankalpas also cause karmic problems ? This stuff about Mantra Sidhi & Purashcharana has always fascinated me. Yet I have not been able to complete anything myself with strict protocols. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 19 hours ago, Ragmaala said: This stuff about Mantra Sidhi & Purashcharana has always fascinated me. Bro, can you please explain Purashcharana briefly? Thanks Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragmaala Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 36 minutes ago, paapiman said: Bro, can you please explain Purashcharana briefly? Purascharana is completed by reciting the mantras : # of syllabes x 1 lakh repetition. Moolmantra Purascharan would be 36,00, 000 repetition. Gurugayatri mantra purascharan would be 24,00, 000 repetition. Sometimes it can take several purascharanas to attain mukti. Here is an example i found from another tradition but we can apply it to ourselves as well. Quote GAYATRI PURASCHARANA The Brahma-Gayatri-Mantra has twenty-four Aksharas. So, one Gayatri Purascharana constitutes the repetition or Japa of 24 lakhs of times of Gayatri Mantra. There are various rules for Purascharana. If you repeat 3, 000 times daily, you should keep up the number daily all throughout till you finish the full 24 lakhs. Cleanse the mirror of Manas of its Mala and prepare the ground for the sowing of the spiritual seed. His grace is very, very important. The Maharashtrians are very fond of Gayatri Purascharana. There are in Poona and other places persons who have performed Purascharana several times. Sri Pandit Madan Mohan Malaviyaji was a votary of Gayatri Purascharana. The success in his life and the establishment of a grand Hindu University at Benares, is all attributable to his Gayatri Japa and the benign Grace of the Blessed Mother Gayatri. Swami Vidyaranya, the reputed author of the celebrated Panchadasi, performed Gayatri Purascharana. Mother gave him Darshan and granted Vidyaranya a boon. Swami Vidyaranya asked: "O Mother! There is a great famine in the Deccan. Let there be a shower of gold to relieve the immense distress of the people. " Accordingly there was a shower of gold. Such is the power or Sakti of Gayatri Mantra. Yoga-Bhrashtas and pure-minded persons only can have Darshan of Gayatri by doing one Purascharana only. As the minds of vast majority of persons in this Iron Age are filled with various sorts of impurities, one has to do more than one Purascharana according to the degree of impurity of the mind. The more the impurities, the greater the number of Purascharana. The famous Madhusudana Swami did seventeen Purascharanas of Krishna Mantra. He did not get Darshan of Lord Krishna on account of the sins committed in killing 17 Brahmins in his previous births. But he had Darshan of the Lord when he was on the half way of the eighteenth Purascharana. The same rule applies to Gayatri-Purascharana also. http://www.sivanandaonline.org/public_html/?cmd=displaysection§ion_id=1087 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 On 6/2/2016 at 2:32 PM, Ragmaala said: I still have not finished my sankalpa of sava lakh mool mantar jaap. Can unfinished sankalpas also cause karmic problems ? IMHO, that should not be a problem brother. If Panj Pyaray or a Sant told you to complete it within a specific time frame, that would be different story. Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 On 6/2/2016 at 11:32 AM, Ragmaala said: I still have not finished my sankalpa of sava lakh mool mantar jaap. Can unfinished sankalpas also cause karmic problems ? If they were "sukheyoh", then YES, that becomes a karmic weight if you don't finish them. I think you understand that by "sukheyoh",.. I mean the scenario where one has a need of some sort and they promise to do some 'ponnh daanh' or jaap to Praise waheguru in the joy of the need being fulfilled. The "intention" is very important in these matters and it shouldn't be about ego but about praising Waheguru and showing more love to waheguru because "he" is the doer. You shouldn't really "sukhh" unless you are sure you can do it and do it very soon.. Seriously,..... you don't want to die with some unresolved sukhh in your life because it will affect your karmic path in the after life. Therefore, I do strongly suggest that you complete them if they were "sukheyoh"... because I do know some people/families that have had relatives pass away that had uncompleted "sukhannh" and they later came to light in one way or the other. Anyway, I've done the 10,000 mool mantar japs in 10 days on quite a few occasions. I always did them with strict discipline and 1000plus malas in one sitting per day. In those days, I was also naïve and probably didn't give full dhyian.and focused on numbers,.... but I passed all the exams every time and it definitely helped increase my faith. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 On 6/2/2016 at 2:32 PM, Ragmaala said: I still have not finished my sankalpa of sava lakh mool mantar jaap. Can unfinished sankalpas also cause karmic problems ? If you did an Ardas (or had an Ardas done for you) for completion of the Jaap, in front of Sri Satguru jee, then you should definitely try to complete it. Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 On 10/9/2015 at 11:35 AM, Sat1176 said: Guruma stated that to gain mantra siddhi one must do (1 lakh = 100,000 ) repetitions per syllable of the mantra. What's the time frame? 100,000 repetitions per syllable of the mantar in how much time? Bhul chuk maaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gareeb sim Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 On 6/2/2016 at 7:15 PM, paapiman said: Bro, have you ever tried to Sidh a Mantar? Bhul chuk maaf Why do u want a siddhi anyway thas not sikhi .. " ridh sidh avraa saad" .. just awaken ur soul by gurbani not siddh powers. They are meant to distract the bhakts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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