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my understanding is that all devtay are shaktian of Akaal. The difference being that Akaal is eternal and has all shaktian, and devtay are not eternal and are a collection of some shakti's of Akaal, not all of them.

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WE have to interpet devtay within parameters of our scriptures.Per hinduism sects for example shakat who are devotees of Devi they are all in all and there is no God above them.

Per Guru sahib in Dasam Granth sahib this is what God says to him before sending him to this earth

ਤੇ ਹਮ ਤਮਕਿ ਤਨਕ ਮੋ ਖਾਪੇ ॥ ਤਿਨ ਕੀ ਠਉਰ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਥਾਪੇ ॥

ते हम तमकि तनक मो खापे ॥ तिन की ठउर देवता थापे ॥

I destroyed them in no time and created gods in their place.

ਤੇ ਭੀ ਬਲਿ ਪੂਜਾ ਉਰਝਾਏ ॥ ਆਪਨ ਹੀ ਪਰਮੇਸੁਰ ਕਹਾਏ ॥੭॥

ते भी बलि पूजा उरझाए ॥ आपन ही परमेसुर कहाए ॥७॥

They were also absorbed in the worship of power and called themselves Ominipotednt.7.

ਮਹਾਦੇਵ ਅਚੁੱਤ ਕਹਾਯੋ ॥ ਬਿਸਨ ਆਪ ਹੀ ਕੋ ਠਹਿਰਾਯੋ ॥

महादेव अचु्त कहायो ॥ बिसन आप ही को ठहिरायो ॥

Mahadeo (Shiva) was called Achyuta (blotless), Vishnu considered himself the Supreme.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਆਪ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਬਖਾਨਾ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਜਾਨਾ ॥੮॥

ब्रहमा आप पारब्रहम बखाना ॥ प्रभ को प्रभू न किनहूं जाना ॥८॥

Brahma called himself Para Brahman, none could comprehend the Lord.8.

ਤਬ ਸਾਖੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਅਸਟ ਬਨਾਏ ॥ ਸਾਖ ਨਮਿਤ ਦੇਬੇ ਠਹਿਰਾਏ ॥

Bachitra natak

Edited by singh2

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at the parsang of naina devi temple...where pandit wanted maharaj to do sacrifice of his son baba fateh singh but maharaj said to the pandit why dont you be the sacrifice and then at nightime the pandit legs it from the scene and the next day when singhs said that mahraj no devi has been pargat and then mahraj were in bir ras and unsheathed there sword and said this is chandi.

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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

Dear all and Singh2 Jee!

You wrote "The poster is trying to interpret the heading " Ath devi ji ki ustat" as ode to Durga.

That is incorrect and misleading. There are many otehr headings like this in Dasam Granth.

When you read those carefully it is ode to akal purakh and not to Durga."

Guru Gobind Singh Jee has used both the words, Durgaa and Akaal, often. Please explain why He wrote Durgaa where you wish He could have written Akaal Purakh?

Quote "Guru Gobind singh ji has described chandi as Kirpan in chandi di vaar."

KripaaNee does not mean a sword nor Miaan means scabbard in the true Guru's Vaak. You have referred.

ਧੂਹਿ ਲਈ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਣੀ ਦੁਰਗਾ ਮਿਆਨ ਤੇ ॥

धूहि लई क्रिपाणी दुरगा मिआन ते ॥

Has drawn the merciful Durgaa to the middle.

*****

Thanks for referring Gurdev's Vaak from Bachitra NaaTak.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਆਪ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਬਖਾਨਾ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਜਾਨਾ ॥੮॥

ब्रहमा आप पारब्रहम बखाना ॥ प्रभ को प्रभू न किनहूं जाना ॥८॥

Brahma called himself Para Brahman, none could comprehend the Lord.8.

Please clarify it. Has Guru Gobind Singh Jee included Himself in this list or not?

Balbir Singh

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We should refrain from attributing something to Damdami taksal they do not believe in.

Here is video of Sant jarnail singh ji on this issue

http://patshahi10.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=218:sant-jarnail-singh-bhindranwale-explains-the-meaning-of-qmahakaalq-from-bachittar-natak&catid=56:videos-by-patshahi10org&Itemid=73

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Balbir singh ji

Kindly go through the composition of Dasam Granth.Durga has been described as creation of akal purakh in Dasam Granth unlike her status in puranas where she is considered as supreme power.

If in doubt listen to katha of Sant jarnail singh ji belwo

http://patshahi10.or...10org&Itemid=73

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Thanks for referring Gurdev's Vaak from Bachitra NaaTak.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਆਪ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਬਖਾਨਾ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਨ ਕਿਨਹੂੰ ਜਾਨਾ ॥੮॥

ब्रहमा आप पारब्रहम बखाना ॥ प्रभ को प्रभू न किनहूं जाना ॥८॥

Brahma called himself Para Brahman, none could comprehend the Lord.8.

Please clarify it. Has Guru Gobind Singh Jee included Himself in this list or not?

Read Dasam granth sahib.

For Guru sahib akal purakh was supreme.

ਕਬਿਬਾਚ ॥

कबिबाच ॥

The World of the Poet:

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

DOHRA

ਠਾਢ ਭਯੋ ਮੈ ਜੋਰਿ ਕਰ ਬਚਨ ਕਹਾ ਸਿਰ ਨਿਆਇ ॥

ठाढ भयो मै जोरि कर बचन कहा सिर निआइ ॥

I stood up with folded hands and bowing down my head, I said:

ਪੰਥ ਚਲੈ ਤਬ ਜਗਤ ਮੈ ਜਬ ਤੁਮ ਕਰਹੁ ਸਹਾਇ ॥੩੦॥

पंथ चलै तब जगत मै जब तुम करहु सहाइ ॥३०॥

The path (Panth) shall prevail only in the world, with THY ASSISTANCE."30.

Bachitra natak

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ਜੋ ਹਮ ਕੋ ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਉਚਰਿ ਹੈਂ ॥ ਤੇ ਸਭ ਨਰਕਿ ਕੁੰਡ ਮਹਿ ਪਰਿਹੈਂ ॥

जो हम को परमेसर उचरि हैं ॥ ते सभ नरकि कुंड महि परिहैं ॥

Whosoever shall call me the Lord, shall fall into hell.

ਮੋ ਕੌ ਦਾਸ ਤਵਨ ਕਾ ਜਾਨੋ ॥ ਯਾ ਮੈ ਭੇਦ ਨ ਰੰਚ ਪਛਾਨੋ ॥੩੨॥

मो कौ दास तवन का जानो ॥ या मै भेद न रंच पछानो ॥३२॥

Consider me as His servant and nothing is other than truth in it.32.

ਮੈ ਹੋ ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਕੋ ਦਾਸਾ ॥ ਦੇਖਨਿ ਆਯੋ ਜਗਤ ਤਮਾਸਾ ॥

मै हो परम पुरख को दासा ॥ देखनि आयो जगत तमासा ॥

I am the servant of the Supreme Purusha and hath come to see the Sport of the world.

Bachitra natak Dasam Granth sahib

Edited by singh2

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Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

Dear all and Singh2 Jee!

My questions are simple and straight. Please do not escape those.

*****

To experience God, study of a Sikh human-being is not necessary.

To experience God, study of a Hindu human-being is also not needed.

The information of a Hindu person about Durgaa is not a requirement to receive the wisdom of Durgaa, Bhagautee or Chandee. Without receiving true Naam one is never blessed with this Wisdom. It is also not received by reading a book or discussing these words.

Persons whose Dharmaa is arguing never come to know their color.

Please listen. Guru Arjan Dev Jee is singing.

ਭਗਉਤੀ ਭਗਵੰਤ ਭਗਤਿ ਕਾ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

भगउती भगवंत भगति का रंगु ॥

Bhaguṯee bhagvant bhagati ka rangu. SGGS Ang. 274 Sukhmanee

Bhagautee is God's color of bhaktee.

In my experience it is perfectly all right when the true Bhagat is firstly dyed in God's color and then finds that all true Gurus confirm the same.

Pratham Bhagautee simar ke . . .

*****

Please ask your Baabaas and Preachers. Seekers are hungry and thirsty. Can they transfer this wisdom? Or they feel this wisdom is transferred through the microphone only.

Only making Jathaas of dumb dummies or afgaanee ghuggies is not helping.

Balbir Singh

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