curious_man Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 WJKK WJKF Veer Bhupinder Singh ji (thelivingtreasure.com) came to Calgary for a day and gave a katha/lecture and touched various topics like nasha.. tension.. composition of SGGSJ etc etc overall it was good. i would say he is a brilliant orator and the way to interpret bani is quite "modern". in that "modern" interpretation he interpreted the line from Japuji sahib "denda de lenda thak paahe" as: the Giver keeps giving all the daata (of bhakti, intellectualism, naam ras, satbuddhi, goodness, etc etc) always, as soon as the person gets it (only when he knows how to get it) then his mind becomes settled down (that means all tension gone, he becomes blissful) so according to Veer ji, he said thak paahe means "settled down". he said in all the kathas and teekas he has seen it as thak paahe = get tired Babaji keeps giving so much that we get tired.. this makes no sense because we never get tired .. trishna never does. so in essence he kept saying Gurbani khud khojo.. u will get new meanings.. old meannings does not mean they r right.. if with old meanings u get 50% elevated in avastha.. and with new meaning u get 60% so that concludes new meanings are better. i need ure opinion sangat.. i had conversation with him too at the end of session.. which i will tell in next topic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 too much of a good thing can indeed make a person tired. i have seen one time a sant kept giving bachans to a singh, tons of kirpa, the singh was overwhelmed, asked the sant to stop. too much kirpa can also be hard for a person to handle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL 07 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 yes xylitol with the exception of prem ras 'hau pir salahee na rajoo' i have a insatiable desire to praise the lord. SGGS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious_man Posted June 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 wht i feel is that the arth by Bhupinder singh for thak paahe is correct. but i checked mahan kosh, maskeen ji katha, thakur singh katha.. everyone says that manukh daatan lende lende thak jaunda hai.. but seriously trishna kitthe thakdi hai? till last breath human always keeps on asking/hoping more and more!! so..isnt this a point to ask any good kathavachak (baba hari singh, bhai pinderpal singhji, gyani thakur singh) and let him know this alternative (better) meaning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylitol Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 bani gives santokh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balbir Singh Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all and Curious_man Jee! God gives everyone everything. Still, all seem to be on a move restlessly to get more. They are not settled down. Sidh, Saadik and all search for Naam. They get tired concentrating on this search. They are not settled by regularly thinking on their desire to receive Naam. Please listen. Gurdev is singing. ਸਿਧ ਸਾਧਿਕ ਨਾਵੈ ਨੋ ਸਭਿ ਖੋਜਦੇ ਥਕਿ ਰਹੇ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ ॥ सिध साधिक नावै नो सभि खोजदे थकि रहे लिव लाइ ॥ Sidh saadhik naavai no sabhi khojde Thaki rahe liv laai. SGGS 650 Balbir Singh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL 07 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 quite right balbir - just like the cuckoo bird is not satiated untill it recieves the immortal elixir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post harsharan000 Posted February 11, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 6/23/2010 at 5:06 PM, curious_man said: WJKK WJKF Veer Bhupinder Singh ji (thelivingtreasure.com) came to Calgary for a day and gave a katha/lecture and touched various topics like nasha.. tension.. composition of SGGSJ etc etc overall it was good. i would say he is a brilliant orator and the way to interpret bani is quite "modern". in that "modern" interpretation he interpreted the line from Japuji sahib "denda de lenda thak paahe" as: the Giver keeps giving all the daata (of bhakti, intellectualism, naam ras, satbuddhi, goodness, etc etc) always, as soon as the person gets it (only when he knows how to get it) then his mind becomes settled down (that means all tension gone, he becomes blissful) so according to Veer ji, he said thak paahe means "settled down". he said in all the kathas and teekas he has seen it as thak paahe = get tired Babaji keeps giving so much that we get tired.. this makes no sense because we never get tired .. trishna never does. so in essence he kept saying Gurbani khud khojo.. u will get new meanings.. old meannings does not mean they r right.. if with old meanings u get 50% elevated in avastha.. and with new meaning u get 60% so that concludes new meanings are better. ii need ure opinion sangat need ure opinion sangat.. Well brother curious man jee, from what I understand, is that, the all powerfull Waheguru Akal Purukh, will continoussly keep satisfying all our desires which keep on arising without any stop, for He is as great as only He is. Eventually, we may get tired of asking, but He Sachay Patshah, never ever gets tired nor short, even if the whole of the "kaenaat" gets together and keeps asking countless times .... Denda de : The bountless Giver, nonstop keeps on giving whatsoever is asked from Him lenda thak paahe: to the extent that in the end, the receiver gets tired of asking and receiving. SSA. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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