dalsingh101 Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) Found this. Thought I'd share. It's a bit much for me but maybe someone else can find it of use? http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=E26Qne4h1yUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=rupert+snell+braj&source=bl&ots=SmFQ9YufQP&sig=hpq_kiFY_9hz91W1x_s9NcQ2LRM&hl=en&ei=9_FbTOuCB93Q4wbOiOyRAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Edited August 6, 2010 by dalsingh101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithar Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Found this. Thought I'd share. It's a bit much for me but maybe someone else can find it of use? http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=E26Qne4h1yUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=rupert+snell+braj&source=bl&ots=SmFQ9YufQP&sig=hpq_kiFY_9hz91W1x_s9NcQ2LRM&hl=en&ei=9_FbTOuCB93Q4wbOiOyRAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Thank you very very much dalsingh jee. I was looking for something like this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) Thank you very very much dalsingh jee. I was looking for something like this. No problem veer ji. Can you read Hindi or whatever that script in the book is? Soon, I'm going start a thread to analyse a small but important (in my opinion) section of Dasam Granth. Please do contribute with any linguistic knowledge and opinions when I do. If Panjabi is your first language, take a little look at the vocabulary builder thread now and then too. It's possible you may know many of the puzzling words we come across. Edited August 21, 2010 by dalsingh101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaljug Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 No problem veer ji. Can you read Hindu or whatever that script in the book is? It's Devanagari, same script Hindi is written in. If you know Gurmukhi script, Devanagari script will only take you an hour or so to learn. It's well worth the effort to learn it because it will enable you to read Snell's book and gain a better underatanding of Braj and a lot of the poetic structures used in Gurbani (arril, sorath, etc). K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) Kaljug ji I'm struggling with Panjabi right now. I guess when I master that, I can move on to Devanagari script at some stage. I feel a bit dense as I have no idea what adjectives, nouns, pre-nouns, verbs and all that stuff is. I know it's not exactly brain surgery but I never saw the value or purpose of knowing this stuff as a youth. The prospect of having to go through all that again fills me with.... err.....a sort of mild feeling of depression. lol Is this Devanagri? भरथऊ जोग साधना साजी ॥ जोग अगनि तन ते उपराजी ॥ ब्रहमरंध्र झटदै कर फोरा ॥ प्रभ सौ चलत अंग नही मोरा How far have you got to grips with Braj Bhasha yourself Singh? I heard it is very much like the language spoken around UP? Edited August 6, 2010 by dalsingh101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) It's Devanagari, same script Hindi is written in. If you know Gurmukhi script, Devanagari script will only take you an hour or so to learn. K. Is devnagri really that easy ?? I started a GCSE when I was at school but really struggled. Probs coz my parents made me learn and I was reading the letters through gurmuki goggles. SO I would see a gurmukhi letter/sound rather than Devnagri/Hindi sound. Is the grammatical structure of Hindi same as in Panjbai/gurmukhi? Edited August 6, 2010 by jattboot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Plus to be honest, I always thought I'd do Farsi next, but I guess Devangari would be easier. Would make more sense. Hmmmm... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURYADEV Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Plus to be honest, I always thought I'd do Farsi next, but I guess Devangari would be easier. Would make more sense. Hmmmm... you could do french. improve on your gcse knowledge. even more easier Ahhh la langue d'amour!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 (edited) Non merci!!! English is enough. I'm trying to get away from Eurocentrism! lol Edited August 6, 2010 by dalsingh101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaljug Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Kaljug ji I'm struggling with Panjabi right now. I guess when I master that, I can move on to Devanagari script at some stage. I feel a bit dense as I have no idea what adjectives, nouns, pre-nouns, verbs and all that stuff is. I know it's not exactly brain surgery but I never saw the value or purpose of knowing this stuff as a youth. The prospect of having to go through all that again fills me with.... err.....a sort of mild feeling of depression. lol Is this Devanagri? भरथऊ जोग साधना साजी ॥ जोग अगनि तन ते उपराजी ॥ ब्रहमरंध्र झटदै कर फोरा ॥ प्रभ सौ चलत अंग नही मोरा How far have you got to grips with Braj Bhasha yourself Singh? I heard it is very much like the language spoken around UP? To be honest, I didn't know the parts of speech either until I had to learn Latin to decipher some texts I was interested in. It's not something that is taught these days in schools unless you study a foreign language in an academic setting at college/university level. Yes, that's Devanagari script. I only learned enough Braj to illuminate some Dasam Granth passages (I am too lazy and I have too little free time these days do do much more, alas). I'm not sure how similar the Braj Bhasa of Dasam Granth is to the language spoken today in UP, but they are definitely related. K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaljug Posted August 6, 2010 Report Share Posted August 6, 2010 Is devnagri really that easy ?? I started a GCSE when I was at school but really struggled. Probs coz my parents made me learn and I was reading the letters through gurmuki goggles. SO I would see a gurmukhi letter/sound rather than Devnagri/Hindi sound. Is the grammatical structure of Hindi same as in Panjbai/gurmukhi? The phonology is exactly the same. Even the order of the Gurmukhi characters is the same as in Devanagari. The only real difference is that there are some conjunct characters in Devanagari that you don't find in Gurmukhi. See the table of Devanagari consonants here Replace them with Gurmukhi consonants starting at kakka khakha and you have a direct map from one to the other script. The grammar is very similar. K. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paapiman Posted June 15, 2018 Report Share Posted June 15, 2018 On 8/6/2010 at 7:33 AM, dalsingh101 said: Found this. Thought I'd share. It's a bit much for me but maybe someone else can find it of use? http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=E26Qne4h1yUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=rupert+snell+braj&source=bl&ots=SmFQ9YufQP&sig=hpq_kiFY_9hz91W1x_s9NcQ2LRM&hl=en&ei=9_FbTOuCB93Q4wbOiOyRAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false Did you get a chance to read the above book? Bhul chuk maaf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 10:02 PM, paapiman said: Did you get a chance to read the above book? Bhul chuk maaf No because I can't read Hindi (yet). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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