dalsingh101 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) Sorry only UK. You guys have to watch this documentary about our namesakes. The parallels with our quom are interesting. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00zv8w8/The_Truth_About_Lions_The_Social_Cat/ Edited March 26, 2011 by dalsingh101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishvar2 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Sorry only UK. You guys have to watch this documentary about our namesakes. The parallels with our quom are interesting. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00zv8w8/The_Truth_About_Lions_The_Social_Cat/ You beat me to it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithar Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I love big cat documentaries. Just too bad only UK people can see this one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I love big cat documentaries. Just too bad only UK people can see this one. Anybody can see it on the following link http://www.watchseries-online.com/2011/03/the-truth-about-lions-1x1-the-social-cat.html But I don't understand watching Lions on PC when animal planet and Nat geo constantly play documentries on Lions BTW if you are interested then there is another very good story on Tigers http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4717199/BBC.Tiger.Spy.In.The.Jungle.Complete.Series.720p.HDTV.x264 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) I love big cat documentaries. Just too bad only UK people can see this one. Looks like they are actually matriarchal in set up! lol Tell you what. Watching this documentary just made me fall in love with the African landscape. They are SO lucky to have so much unspoilt land. Edited March 26, 2011 by dalsingh101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Looks like they are actually matriarchal in set up! lol Tell you what. Watching this documentary just made me fall in love with the African landscape. They are SO lucky to have so much unspoilt land. Lions are matriarch.Lionesses live in pride which is invaded by male lions who defeat the opponents and take over pride.Generally their rule over pride last for 2-3 years as some another Lions take over.Male lions after taking over pride kill all cubs so female can able to mate quickly as nursing mother is no way is ready to mate. several of myths that were associated with lions are now busted.Male lions when see that their opponents are stronger prefer to run rather than fight to Death. Lionesses don't defend their cubs against invading Lions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) several of myths that were associated with lions are now busted.Male lions when see that their opponents are stronger prefer to run rather than fight to Death. Yes, they can count too it seems! And always go 2+ to investigate potential competition if the doc is anything to go by. Lionesses don't defend their cubs against invading Lions This isn't true. You saw one chasing off a male in the doc. Edited March 26, 2011 by dalsingh101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 You got to see this Tiger!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4SqXl9Zj6k&NR=1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 This isn't true. You saw one chasing off a male in the doc. I have seen hundreds of lion documentries.Its true Lionesses don't defend cubs aggressively because the best way to defend them is to take them to safe place rather than staying in pride which lionesses don't do so whenever Lions take over pride then small cubs have to die because male Lions never raise cubs of other lions.Male cubs which are old enough just leave pride to live on their own. I have recently seen a tiger documentry in which they have shown how a tigress was injured when the one male tiger invaded her terratory .The father of the cubs died in ferocious fight .then what she did was she took her half grown cubs to very far Area and remained untracable for a year.Unfortunatelt the film maker died but in the end they showed that cubs and mother were traced after a year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Must see! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 8 lionesses vs a she elephant 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithar Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I have seen hundreds of lion documentries.Its true Lionesses don't defend cubs aggressively because the best way to defend them is to take them to safe place rather than staying in pride which lionesses don't do so whenever Lions take over pride then small cubs have to die because male Lions never raise cubs of other lions.Male cubs which are old enough just leave pride to live on their own. I have recently seen a tiger documentry in which they have shown how a tigress was injured when the one male tiger invaded her terratory .The father of the cubs died in ferocious fight .then what she did was she took her half grown cubs to very far Area and remained untracable for a year.Unfortunatelt the film maker died but in the end they showed that cubs and mother were traced after a year Lets not put the lion down. It is the most beautiful animal alive (in my opinion). Both lion and tiger are cats that need to be preserved in the wild. The tiger is in danger of being wiped out in the wild because of chinese demand for tiger parts which they use in their traditional medicine. It will be one of the biggest tragedies if the tiger population decreases anymore than it already is. India is currently home to the last of the wild asiatic lions in the small reserve in Gujarat in Gir forest. The Indian leopard is also another great big cat that needs protection. In the last few years there have been many cases of leopards being killed (often beaten to death) by villagers. Check out this disturbing video of Haryanvis beating to death this leopard while the police do nothing to stop them: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithar Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 You got to see this Tiger!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4SqXl9Zj6k&NR=1 That was crazy! check out this video of the tiger hugging this Indian guy: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 The Indian leopard is also another great big cat that needs protection. In the last few years there have been many cases of leopards being killed (often beaten to death) by villagers. Check out this disturbing video of Haryanvis beating to death this leopard while the police do nothing to stop them: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=5JGQA4ZdScY To be honest leopards are Real menace for humans and regularly kill livestock and could even attack Humans and become man eater.With 1.2 billion population and dwindling forests man animal conflict will increase 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Here is report leopards preying on cattle in Punjab.I am sure if these people will not receive adequate compensation then then leopard will meet the same fate as shown in above video http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-02-12/india/28545325_1_livestock-cattle-owners-leopards Panchayats seek relief for cattle loss Tushar Rattan, TNN, Feb 12, 2011, 07.39am IST HOSHIARPUR: Compensation for a cattle head killed by wild beasts is emerging as a tool to conserve leopards, being killed to save cattle, in Kandi belt of Punjab, having a thick forest cover. While panchayats are demanding compensation for loss to cattle owners to protect leopard, government has not yet yielded to this demand. The debate gained momentum within days of a leopard giving sleepless nights to the livestock rearing community, especially goat owners. During the last one week, a number of cattle heads have fallen prey to this feline. In an incident at Khanni, a village located on the fringe of the jungle about 36km from here, a week ago, three grown-up goats were killed by a leopard inside the livestock shed in middle of the night. While one of the goats was taken away by the feline, rest were found partially consumed in another shed. "Preventing leopards from killing livestock isn't feasible as cattle have now emerged as feline's staple diet. But, for the loss that we undergo, government must compensate us wholeheartedly," said Avtar Singh who lost his goats to this Schedule-1 protected species. On Wednesday night, from the very village, a calf belonging to Dina Nath was devoured. Sarpanch of Khanni Sukhdev Singh said to compensate the owners for their livestock loss, a proposal regarding monetary assistance of Rs 14,000 was to be submitted to the wildlife officials. In the Kandi belt of Punjab spread across Ropar, Hoshiarpur and Gurdaspur districts, lifting of livestock by leopards is a common occurrence. In the nearby Kangar, Kothi, Melli, Kot, Patial, Tappa, Labbar, Koi, Naroor, Dehrian, Bahera and Ram Tatwali villages of Kandi belt, in the past, numerous instances of livestock falling prey to this big cat have come to the fore. But reportedly, the victimized owners have not been compensated by the government. Not compensating the livestock owners has unquestionably resulted in wiping off of the already dwindling leopard's population from the area as the feline is being killed to contain the livestock loss. Hoshiarpur DFO (Wildlife), Satnam Singh, said, "So far, I haven't received the letter of proposal for compensating the livestock owners concerned." For any such compensation, it is mandatory to tag the post-mortem report of the preyed animals with the 'proposed letter of compensation'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) To be honest leopards are Real menace for humans and regularly kill livestock and could even attack Humans and become man eater.With 1.2 billion population and dwindling forests man animal conflict will increase If India wanted, they could actually profit from nature reserves. Although these goray have no qualms about attacking and killing nonwhite males, they get all protective and 'civilised' over animals (well now that their trophy hunting days seem over anyway). India could sell package holidays to these whiteys. Plus India does really need to get more clued up on the ecological front. Even though she does quite well compared to other western nations. Beautiful natural areas are an asset to any nation. Edited March 27, 2011 by dalsingh101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zulu Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 African landscape. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Guardian article on Tigers in India http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/mar/27/india-tiger-population-rise-census 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 If India wanted, they could actually profit from nature reserves. Although these goray have no qualms about attacking and killing nonwhite males, they get all protective and 'civilised' over animals (well now that their trophy hunting days seem over anyway). India could sell package holidays to these whiteys. Plus India does really need to get more clued up on the ecological front. Even though she does quite well compared to other western nations. Beautiful natural areas are an asset to any nation. Indian National Parks are already very famous .A lot of Indians as well as foreigners visit them.There is hardly any shortage of tourists.Infact they are facing problem of over number of tourists visiting these National parks.Over number of tourists visiting them means pollution in those area as well disturbance to animals too.Corbett National park already has a core where visitors are not allowed.So more tourists will destroy Indian jungles rather than preserving them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Over number of tourists visiting them means pollution in those area as well disturbance to animals too.Corbett National park already has a core where visitors are not allowed.So more tourists will destroy Indian jungles rather than preserving them Not necessarily. Just have and enforce hardcore anti-pollution laws. Make a few examples by sticking a few whiteys in those dirty hell hole Indian prisons for a short while (on which they will later produce a number of sympathetic documentaries and maybe a film o show other whiteys here how beastly Indians are) and voila. Problem sorted. Westerners are generally well trained when it comes to not being litterbugs anyway. Well the type that would come there would be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdsingh80 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Not necessarily. Just have and enforce hardcore anti-pollution laws. Make a few examples by sticking a few whiteys in those dirty hell hole Indian prisons for a short while (on which they will later produce a number of sympathetic documentaries and maybe a film o show other whiteys here how beastly Indians are) and voila. Problem sorted. Westerners are generally well trained when it comes to not being litterbugs anyway. Well the type that would come there would be. But what about animals? Wild animals should not come in contact with humans ,not even with tourists.If hundreds of people will watch Tigers and leopards daily then they will loose all their fear of humans ,which means they will start encroaching villages without Fears.This problem was even mentioned in Nat geo documentry that kenyan cheetahs loose their preys because so many humans watch them and this distract them from hunting down preys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsingh101 Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 But what about animals? Wild animals should not come in contact with humans ,not even with tourists.If hundreds of people will watch Tigers and leopards daily then they will loose all their fear of humans ,which means they will start encroaching villages without Fears.This problem was even mentioned in Nat geo documentry that kenyan cheetahs loose their preys because so many humans watch them and this distract them from hunting down preys. Fair point. Though African Animals don't seem to lose their wildness despite hordes visiting them. But then they do appear to have infinitely more space there compared to India? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithar Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 To be honest leopards are Real menace for humans and regularly kill livestock and could even attack Humans and become man eater.With 1.2 billion population and dwindling forests man animal conflict will increase In the past few times the leopards have been killed in India, they were killed because they strayed out of their dwindling habitat in search of water but sadly they met a very brutal end at the hands of the most dangerous animal of them all...Man 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sant-khalsa Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 This reminds me of when i was at the national park in Kenya when our jeep broke down and lions began surrounding the car. Was scary and excited at the same time, however the driver was well trained and called in for help. I guess it comes down to knowing how to handle these animals in different situations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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