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The older lot have this issue in a big way in my family, so I've always had a vested interest in learning about it.

From what I've seen the best response to type 2 diabetes is serious low carbing, hard exercise and regular intake of green leafy foods and copious amounts of karela.

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The protocol defined in the above link is the easiet, fastest, and permanent. ANY kind of diabetes (Type-1, Type-2, and other specific types) can be permanently cured within 45-60 days for good. This course activates internal endocrine glands to take care of the problem. Also one does NOT need to avoid sugar/sweets after the treatment.

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Getting diabetics in my family to consistently low carb and exercise is hard enough. There is no way in hell they would go through the above. It's too involved. lol

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Thanks dalsingh for your honest answer. Moreover, the treatment listed is for the people who are fed up with number of insulins shots every day for the past many years (even since from birth). In other words, that treatment is sure shot for any person having serious diabetes problem.

For healthy person who is trying not to get diabetes is short enough: Just press your endrocrine gland's points everyday and then eat sensibly (1/4 of your capacity) and also chew every bite 36 times. In-fact this is the formula to remain healthy and avoid all kind of diseases.

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Another thing is to avoid NHS advice on type 2 diabetes at least. They are so dumb they actually don't understand that ALL carbs turn into glucose in the body and that this is exactly what messes diabetics up as their muscle cells can't take this in as energy (glucogen I think?) because insulin doesn't open the receptors up (i.e. resistance).

All that extra sugar floating around in the body is what causes the neuropathy, harms your organs and eyes, the circulatory system and what not.

I've heard of a fruit called Jambul (some sort of plum) which is meant to help but have never seen it anywhere, even Green Street and High Street North.

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Problem sometimes lies in telling your olders to ignore their nurses/doctors stupid diet/medicine advice to follow alternatives. They obviously look up to the medical establishment.

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Thanks for sharing the information for sugar control in our body. I would try it. Walking, jogging and running is also good exercises to control sugar levels in our blood. Our comfortable lifestyle is quite responsible for it. We must control sugar level in blood as soon as possible because it could harm our brain cells, kidneys, and eyes too.

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Hello everybody,

Please follow the following link to get rid of diabetes (of any kind) within 45-60 days.

http://satgur.net/Healing/Details/17

This is the very useful information for diabetes patients. You share good tips on treatment for diabetes. I will definitely recommend this post to needful users.

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For anyone reading this stay away from things like that people who try these routes of curing it either end up in diabetic coma or dead. diabetes is not cureable at all, it's just managed through life with insulin and better diets. I know from the vast number of people I have interacted with diabetes. All these fraudsters are interested in your money not your health, look after your own health. All these countries who spend billions in research aren't fools much of western science has looked into eastern remedies and adopted what it deemed fit and rejected the nonsense. You can find texts and materials proving why it's nonsense if you don't you can visit real scientists and have them proven. Ayruveda also makes other bogus claims such as to cure cancer, arthritis, hiv, aids, swine flu and other chronic diseases which aren't curable in some cases, people get worse or die while in others nothing happens and a placebo effect may take place.

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For anyone reading this stay away from things like that people who try these routes of curing it either end up in diabetic coma or dead. diabetes is not cureable at all, it's just managed through life with insulin and better diets. I know from the vast number of people I have interacted with diabetes. All these fraudsters are interested in your money not your health, look after your own health. All these countries who spend billions in research aren't fools much of western science has looked into eastern remedies and adopted what it deemed fit and rejected the nonsense. You can find texts and materials proving why it's nonsense if you don't you can visit real scientists and have them proven. Ayruveda also makes other bogus claims such as to cure cancer, arthritis, hiv, aids, swine flu and other chronic diseases which aren't curable in some cases, people get worse or die while in others nothing happens and a placebo effect may take place.

That being said:

There is scientific evidence of the efficacy of some herbal remedies for Type 2 (karela, jambul) and some western medicines like statins can have very dubious side effects. Even the assertion that lowering cholesterol levels prevents heart disease is questionable because many people with low cholesterol get heart attacks and some people with high levels don't. NHS is not all that, as I've seen family members with type 2 deteriotate rapidly following their advice but then make a speedy recovery (lower blood sugar levels/weight gain or weight loss, having more energy) following alternative regimes.

But I do get you point that some people use herbal medicines as a quick buck generator, and make unsubstantiated claims.

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On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2014 at 6:14 AM, JatherdarSahib said:

For anyone reading this stay away from things like that people who try these routes of curing it either end up in diabetic coma or dead. diabetes is not cureable at all, it's just managed through life with insulin and better diets. I know from the vast number of people I have interacted with diabetes. All these fraudsters are interested in your money not your health, look after your own health. All these countries who spend billions in research aren't fools much of western science has looked into eastern remedies and adopted what it deemed fit and rejected the nonsense. You can find texts and materials proving why it's nonsense if you don't you can visit real scientists and have them proven. Ayruveda also makes other bogus claims such as to cure cancer, arthritis, hiv, aids, swine flu and other chronic diseases which aren't curable in some cases, people get worse or die while in others nothing happens and a placebo effect may take place.

First of all, I'm not charging anything for this information and I've invested around 7-8 years in researching this information. And this is neither my profession nor my business. I'm a Technical Architect working for one of the top IT firm in USA and with God's grace it gives me and my family enough and I don't need to play with anyone's health. And the doctor who I do follow has CURED number of patients (Cancer, Diabetes, AIDS to name a few) FREE OF ANY CHARGE for the past around 40 years. The intention of www.SatGur.Net is not to get any reward (publicity, monetary benefits), it is just a help offered after 7 to 8 years of through research.

For God's sake, please stop misleading people with your so-called western mind set. Do you even know why someone gets diabetes? May I ask why diabetes is not curable? It is defined as un-curable because so-called doctors don't know how to start/maintain Endocrine glands which is the root cause of diabetes and many more problems.

I do agree that there are many tips on the internet which claim to have cured diabetes but those things can only manage the disease but you're not dealing with root cause. If you follow the EXACTLY and WHOLE treatment as mentioned on the website, it WILL cure diabetes.

I always say, have you tried it before nullifying it? If not, then how could you derive the results? Isn't this like: Saying there is no True Saint because you happen to come across only fake saints.

Regarding your concern for so-called research in labs: Keep in mind that Pharmaceutical companies exists because of the patients and if there are no patients this multi-billion dollar industry would get destroyed.

I would suggest to educate yourself with just one webpage: http://satgur.net/HealthTherapy/Detail/16

And if you still do NOT agree, then at-least please do NOT spread the mis-information regarding authentic alternate treatment unless you have tried and failed at that particular treatment.

Note: It hurts when people just issue blunt statements something without even trying anything. And that is one of the reason that these days, I do tell people to ask me for the information ONLY as the last resort when their doctors have declared that you cannot survive for more than these many days/month/year. Because otherwise, people just waste time in asking unnecessary questions or claiming these things don't work. Bottom line is : Get the disease, then try the mentioned treatment and THEN make a statement (negative or positive).

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First of all, I'm not charging anything for this information and I've invested around 7-8 years in researching this information. And this is neither my profession nor my business. I'm a Technical Architect working for one of the top IT firm in USA and with God's grace it gives me and my family enough and I don't need to play with anyone's health. And the doctor who I do follow has CURED number of patients (Cancer, Diabetes, AIDS to name a few) FREE OF ANY CHARGE for the past around 40 years. The intention of www.SatGur.Net is not to get any reward (publicity, monetary benefits), it is just a help offered after 7 to 8 years of through research.

For God's sake, please stop misleading people with your so-called western mind set. Do you even know why someone gets diabetes? May I ask why diabetes is not curable? It is defined as un-curable because so-called doctors don't know how to start/maintain Endocrine glands which is the root cause of diabetes and many more problems.

I do agree that there are many tips on the internet which claim to have cured diabetes but those things can only manage the disease but you're not dealing with root cause. If you follow the EXACTLY and WHOLE treatment as mentioned on the website, it WILL cure diabetes.

I always say, have you tried it before nullifying it? If not, then how could you derive the results? Isn't this like: Saying there is no True Saint because you happen to come across only fake saints.

Regarding your concern for so-called research in labs: Keep in mind that Pharmaceutical companies exists because of the patients and if there are no patients this multi-billion dollar industry would get destroyed.

I would suggest to educate yourself with just one webpage: http://satgur.net/Topic/Details/191

And if you still do NOT agree, then at-least please do NOT spread the mis-information regarding authentic alternate treatment unless you have tried and failed at that particular treatment.

Note: It hurts when people just issue blunt statements something without even trying anything. And that is one of the reason that these days, I do tell people to ask me for the information ONLY as the last resort when their doctors have declared that you cannot survive for more than these many days/month/year. Because otherwise, people just waste time in asking unnecessary questions or claiming these things don't work. Bottom line is : Get the disease, then try the mentioned treatment and THEN make a statement (negative or positive).

Diabetes is caused by pancreas malfunctioning which can be genetic or environmentally based. It's to do with how the environment we live is one which are bodies weren't evolved to work with hence we have introduced too much refined sugar into bodies which weren't meant to deal with.

I think you are good doing your own profession as for you lack of charge, I wonder what proceeds your Health Powder" in your suggestion goes into then? Your advice will end up leading to the deaths of people if they skip their insulin hence it has to be condemned. I ask the admin to consider the responsibility of such topics which could lead to people ending up in coma or dead.

As for the western mindset you have mixed western sciences in your analysis of diabetes with the hocus pocus (jaddoo-bakwas), argued didn't know what caused diabetes until western sciences told india what it was. You can see his last desperate note that follow english medicine but just before you die try this stuff so he can take money from a dying person. Don't get me started on fake and real saints you don't want to hear what I have to say about that.

Do you think the pharmaceutical industry collapsing would be devastating for pharmacists because they loose out on billions? Are you aware that there are millions of people in the pharmaceutical industry and when you divide it up people only benefit in the hundreds or thousands, rarely in the millions. If anything diseases and ailments effect every human being, I would imagine people would rather change the nature of their work and be cured of all diseases then to pocket money and suffer on. Forget your conspiracy theories which only have the agenda to line your pocket with money even you don't have the cure and I bet you run to western medicine in your own times of needs. These diseases aren't curable, but science has the decency to admit it's working on a cure rather then pretending to have one with magic powder to con people of their hard earned money.

Research? Okay where is your research academia paper? Do you even know how to write one? Show your results, don't just make or scan in 2 graphs which are pretty much meaningless and pseudo-science.

If you are against western science remove your website it's a product of western science, the internet came about due to it, if not remove then the first paragraph in your website you gave what western science gave. The knowledge of the glands was unknown to Ayruveda. My god the arrogance of con men, they will fill their pockets at the death of people.

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That being said:

There is scientific evidence of the efficacy of some herbal remedies for Type 2 (karela, jambul) and some western medicines like statins can have very dubious side effects. Even the assertion that lowering cholesterol levels prevents heart disease is questionable because many people with low cholesterol get heart attacks and some people with high levels don't. NHS is not all that, as I've seen family members with type 2 deteriotate rapidly following their advice but then make a speedy recovery (lower blood sugar levels/weight gain or weight loss, having more energy) following alternative regimes.

But I do get you point that some people use herbal medicines as a quick buck generator, and make unsubstantiated claims.

Yet nothing on Type 1. I have people I know personally who ate karela and jambul, yet they still died, those bitter plants are just a feature of nature. Science does taken on possible bits of nature to see various substances which help conditions. But Kerala and Jambul don't cure diabetes they just are claimed by people to help manage it, just like how people claim soup helps manage the cold a flu.

Western science is absolutely honest about it's side effects and gives you the consent it doesn't have some hakeem or vedh or con man giving you nonsensical convictions of how you will be cured by eating some leaf. What you may find from these dietary changes is how perhaps the fibre content of them helps, the placebo effect of them helps the psychological mindset uplift which helps the body heal itself and the person in question regulate their sugar and insulin themselves better.

It is even more shameful we have our own pragmatic gurus name attached to this karam-khanda, param, vaem, superstitious, blind ritualistic, herbal wishy-washy stuff which will end up taking lives or putting people in coma due to people missing their insuling shoots over his magic powder.

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There is no point in arguing. You are objecting to the information based upon your knowledge and understanding and your intention is to keep the people away from harm. And that's good intention. I'm happy for that.

But at the same time, my intention is also for the betterment of everyone based upon my personal experiences, knowledge and understanding. I think that I've given enough time (7-8 years) in studying the material before launching the website. So, in other words, there is no point in arguing but still for the sake of information, I would like to point out few points here for other people's reference.

Also I'm not against the Western ideas or medicines, what I don't like is the materialistic approach. My thinking is that Human body works as a whole and is a master piece of God.

At the same time, I would also like to request Admin(s) to share their thoughts in regards to this discussion and if no-one is willing to hear about these alternate treatments, then I'll stop mentioning those in SikhAwareness website. After-all one should not provide information if nobody wants it.

  1. Regarding "filling their pockets" or "take money from dying person" etc.
    • You have repeatedly said "filling their pockets" or "take money from dying person" etc.. whereas I've already mentioned multiple times that I do NOT take any money. Neither I sell any information nor any product. Neither I claim the knower of everything nor I force anyone to believe me. I'm NOT a doctor who has spent 5 or more years in formal medical education and then used that information for my living. I've just tried to educate myself for the last 7-8 years and want to share that knowledge. I didn't study it to earn living through it; I learnt because I want to help and I've seen first hand examples in my own family whereas doctors had no hope, but using Spiritual techniques along with alternate therapies does miracles.
  2. Regarding the research
    • You can get hundreds if not thousands of real references. Please travel to Bombay/Mumbai and ask for Dr. Devindra Vohra who has cured many cases of various diseases and he did it without charging a penny. He travelled across the world and delivered lectures to professional medical doctors. He was also known to diagnose any problem within one minute by diagnosing the person's paining points on the palms.

      My personal experience with him: "I called him for my daughter's major complaint and I told him that I want to see him in Mumbai for treatment and his response was [if you have read my books then do NOT come to me and if you have extra money please help someone needy.]"

      Some of his books are: Health in your Hands Vol-1 and Vol-2 by Dr. Devindra Vohra.

      Do you really think that Lakhs of people were mad who followed him the last 3 decades?

    • You can also refer to "Dr. Randolph Stone" (a western doctor) work for "Polarity Therapy" who was able to cure the problems where a conventional doctor would fail. Dr. Randloph Stone was very popular among medical doctors in USA and he regularly delivers most sought after lectures to medical doctors. And he used his earnings from lectures to donate for poor people.
    • Another good author (for your research) is Dewanchand Varma (Pranotherapy) upon which the 'European Neuromuscular Technique' is based.
    • There are various other good doctors and persons who are known for their knowledge: "Dr. John R. Christopher", "Dr Bernard Jensen", "Paavo Airola", " Darius Dinshah, "Edwin D Babbitt", "Jacob Liberman", " Rudolf Steiner".

      I guess there are many people like me (jaddoo-bakwas) who does the follow the above mentioned authors and doctors.

  3. Regarding the Glands (Endocrine Glands) knowledge
    • Western-Science did not give knowledge of glands to India, In-fact all Spiritual Granths does talk about the Chakras and these Endocrine glands are nothing but a physical representation of each Chakras. Each Chakra has one corresponding Physical gland. Read any Spiritual Granth (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Vedas, Bible)
  4. Regarding the Health powder or other eatables:

    It was not mentioned that by eating some kalrela/bhindi etc you will get cured. People are cured by their OWN body. The whole treatment involves number of other things; the major part being pressing points in the palms and soles. The health powder would help to keep the diabetes in check while the acupressure treatment would treat the gland problem. As a matter of fact, the cure is done by person's own body (which is stimulated) and not by some magic powder.

Peace

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The fact is people start nature cure most times when it is already too late and with all enthusiasm avoid their on going treatment that is what kills them. Looking at the condition of the body one should take a decision.

My personal experience : i have a fatty liver condition which at times aggravates and makes me sluggish and last year i faced a bad time when i had some scars in my abdomen which would have matured into ulcers. They use to pain and had a lot of discomfort so finally got a endoscopy done, the doctor prescribed medicines which i did start .

In a couple of days i started feeling dizzy, unable to concentrate and started getting into depression. I felt as if i would not survive . I finally decided to read the contents of the medicines i had been consuming . It was shocking to find out that the conditions i was facing were mentioned in the instruction notes which come along. The doctor had not taken pain to tell me this . It was clearly mentioned to not drive after having the medicines . I just lost it.

My forefathers were 'vaids' not professionally though so i had some learning of ayurved and natureopathy passed on to me. I digged out ayurvedic medicines, googled them , and then decided the course of action. In a week's time after i had the ayurvedic medicines i was up fresh and felt as if nothing was ever wrong .

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Many Thanks to the creator of the website, it is a very valuable resource for individuals who wish to take their health in their own hands and wish for long term sustainable improvements in place of short term unsustainable improvements (western medicine). Please keep up the good work, many people are now understanding the benefits of working in harmony with nature, instead of against Her.

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But Kerala and Jambul don't cure diabetes they just are claimed by people to help manage it, just like how people claim soup helps manage the cold a flu.

They both have PROVEN hypoglycemic properties i.e. they reduce blood sugar. Karela has a naturally occurring compound that is similar to insulin.

I agree that people with Type 1 (i.e. absolutely no insulin production) will probably benefit little from the above, but in instances of type 2 people diagnosed early on, with some pancreatic functioning, eating the above will provide a source of exogenous insulin that will assist the muscles uptake glucose (to store as glycogen). It isn't a cure but a tool to help manage the condition which takes pressure off the pancreas which is probably already clapped out. Coupled with a low carb diet and regular exercise (not just walking around the block!), it can help people come off medicines. I've seen it work with a few people in my family.

But, if you've got to a point where you've lived with the condition (poorly controlled) for a long while; it will do little to reverse neuropathy and all the organ damage that has occurred from elevated sugar levels over a prolonged time.

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Diabetes should be cured through home remedies also such as Fenugreek seeds/leaves, Cinnamon powder, sour gourd, sadabahaar leaves, Jamun or indian blue berries, Exercising is very useful for diabetic patients, and they should go for a walk in the morning or evening.

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