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Ekomkar, from sikhs point of view- hindu nationalist, british imperalism, and islamic fanatic nationalist are all crooks - one and same. They all cannot be trusted. As far as sikh raaj goes , everyone was happy under maharaja ranjit singh shera punjab raaj before dogra and british divide and rule destroyed the raaj.

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On 9th June 1982 Hindu terrorist Mahant in the Mokha village burnt 15 Guru Granth Sahib Jees, Sikhs reported this incident to the police, but police took no action.

Hindus were also caught throwing cigarettes and biris into the sarovar of Darbar Sahib, when Sikhs handed them over to the police, no action was taken.

Yet if someone kills a cow, he is charged and put in jail. This is Hindu justice.

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Let's be honest. There can only be reconciliation between Sikhs and Punjabi Hindus when the fascist Hindus like the ones that come on here are kicked out of Punjab. These Punjabi Hindus who number a few lakh many of whom are Khatris, Brahmins and Aroras have a special hatred for Sikhs and they will never reconcile with the Sikhs. These are the same people who disowned Punjabi and are happy that Bhaiyas are coming to Punjab. If EO is a Punjabi Hindu fool from the city then the likelihood is that his Bhaiya Rani maid will probably poison him and run off with any cash or jewellery that's in the house. That's what the Punjabi Hindu in the city has become, a victim of bhaiyas! He hasn't been to Punjab or if he has he stayed in his Hindu Punjabi enclave in the city and that's where he started to have his wet dreams of a Punjab dominated by Hindus! Dream on fool, you and your ilk couldn't dominated Punjab when you were double the Sikh population, how you going to dominate when you are measly 37%.

You claim to have been to Jagraon, which I highly doubt but if you did then you must had your eyes shut because every decade the Sikh population grows by more than the Hindus in the town.

Sikhs were 48.8% of Jagraon town in 1981, went up to 55% in 1991 and were 55.41% in 2001. The Hindus have gone down from 48.89% in 1981 to 42.42% in 2001. So your Punjabi Hindu population explosion claim is a falsehood. The Hindus in 2001 only made up the ground they lost from 1971 to 1991, they were 37.54% of Punjab in 1971 and even with the influx of Bhaiyas they just managed to become 36.93% in 2001! The Hindus had decreased to 34% in 1991 due mainly to the fear of the Sikh militants with many Hindus registering as Sikhs in 1991.

As for the Bhaiyas some are identifying with the majority Sikhs ethos and culture of Punjab and becoming Sikhs, maybe they didn't get your memo about taking part in the Hindu takeover of Punjab! All it needs is a push by the Sikh religious organisations and the majority of Bhaiyas will become Sikh, that's a much more likely outcome than one where the Punjabi Hindus who have been decreasing in numbers ever since the first time there was ever a census held in Punjab become the masters of Punjab.

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There are muhammdens in south india, nihal is an arabic word and wikipedia says he is a buddhist

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9262953/BBC-expresses-regret-over-suggestion-Sikhism-is-made-up-of-other-religions.html

I swear I've heard him say he is Buddhist.

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Let's be honest. There can only be reconciliation between Sikhs and Punjabi Hindus when the fascist Hindus like the ones that come on here are kicked out of Punjab. These Punjabi Hindus who number a few lakh many of whom are Khatris, Brahmins and Aroras have a special hatred for Sikhs and they will never reconcile with the Sikhs. These are the same people who disowned Punjabi and are happy that Bhaiyas are coming to Punjab. If EO is a Punjabi Hindu fool from the city then the likelihood is that his Bhaiya Rani maid will probably poison him and run off with any cash or jewellery that's in the house. That's what the Punjabi Hindu in the city has become, a victim of bhaiyas! He hasn't been to Punjab or if he has he stayed in his Hindu Punjabi enclave in the city and that's where he started to have his wet dreams of a Punjab dominated by Hindus! Dream on fool, you and your ilk couldn't dominated Punjab when you were double the Sikh population, how you going to dominate when you are measly 37%.

You claim to have been to Jagraon, which I highly doubt but if you did then you must had your eyes shut because every decade the Sikh population grows by more than the Hindus in the town.

Sikhs were 48.8% of Jagraon town in 1981, went up to 55% in 1991 and were 55.41% in 2001. The Hindus have gone down from 48.89% in 1981 to 42.42% in 2001. So your Punjabi Hindu population explosion claim is a falsehood. The Hindus in 2001 only made up the ground they lost from 1971 to 1991, they were 37.54% of Punjab in 1971 and even with the influx of Bhaiyas they just managed to become 36.93% in 2001! The Hindus had decreased to 34% in 1991 due mainly to the fear of the Sikh militants with many Hindus registering as Sikhs in 1991.

As for the Bhaiyas some are identifying with the majority Sikhs ethos and culture of Punjab and becoming Sikhs, maybe they didn't get your memo about taking part in the Hindu takeover of Punjab! All it needs is a push by the Sikh religious organisations and the majority of Bhaiyas will become Sikh, that's a much more likely outcome than one where the Punjabi Hindus who have been decreasing in numbers ever since the first time there was ever a census held in Punjab become the masters of Punjab.

excellent points Tony jee, Despite so many Sikhs migrating from Punjab for the west for the last 3 decades and the blood bath of Sikh youth during the 80s and 90s, still Sikhs have enough babies to maintain their 60% majority in Punjab while Punjabi Hindus who despite remaining in Punjab(with no major migration outside the state), have actually shrunk because they only have one baby per family. Soon they will even be a minority in the cities too as more Sikhs from the villages are migrate there searching for jobs. In fact the property price boom in the cities for the last 2 decades is because of Sikhs migrating to the cities buying up property.

Culturally Sikhs dominate Punjab so much that even many Punjabi Hindus have started adopting Sikh costoms like doing Anand Karaj, having Akhand Paaths etc. They are almost like Mona Sikhs. The days of these hateful Arya Samaji Hindus is limited.

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excellent points Tony jee, Despite so many Sikhs migrating from Punjab for the west for the last 3 decades and the blood bath of Sikh youth during the 80s and 90s, still Sikhs have enough babies to maintain their 60% majority in Punjab while Punjabi Hindus who despite remaining in Punjab(with no major migration outside the state), have actually shrunk because they only have one baby per family. Soon they will even be a minority in the cities too as more Sikhs from the villages are migrate there searching for jobs. In fact the property price boom in the cities for the last 2 decades is because of Sikhs migrating to the cities buying up property.

Culturally Sikhs dominate Punjab so much that even many Punjabi Hindus have started adopting Sikh costoms like doing Anand Karaj, having Akhand Paaths etc. They are almost like Mona Sikhs. The days of these hateful Arya Samaji Hindus is limited.

The last battles will be fought by their keyboard warriors on forums and facebooks. Doaba Sher a.k.a Sher got blocked by many individuals on FB. Amongst them being Dr. Gurinder Singh Maan, Akali-Nihung Kamalroop Singh Ji, the page Tisarpanth being only a few names. For those who have fb accounts you can approach these individuals and ask why.

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These Punjabi Hindus who number a few lakh many of whom are Khatris, Brahmins and Aroras have a special hatred for Sikhs and they will never reconcile with the Sikhs.

Interesting information tony, where arya samaji fits into all of this? Are most of them are arya samajis? I have five hindu friends at work, all of them outside punjab ( maharastrian, guy from delhi , hindu from kashmir, tamil nadu and bengali), we go along pure fine, its only radical extermist punjabi hindus who are quite jealous of us and hate us for whatever reason.

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At least us HINDU punjabis let u live in relative peace in Punjab!

"live in relative peace in Punjab"???? Punjabi Hindus are the ones who disturbed the relative peace in Punjab in the first place.

Muslims treated Punjabi HIndus no better than the Bakras they do halal. From being a majority of Punjab's population, the cowardly Punjabi Hindus began to convert to Islam in huge numbers until finally Islam became the majority due to their cowardliness. It took the Sikhs who were a small minority no even 15% of the population of Punjab to liberate it from Islamic control. When Punjabi Hindus look back on their history and see how big Padhals(cowards who starts farting when they get scared) they were they now start to do chori of Sikh history.

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Funny how on this thread so much hatred from bitter, twisted ignorant foolish sikhs is going un moderated BUT as soon As a HINDU disses a Sikh, the moderators cry wolf!

Jealousy from sikhs towards Hindus is understandable, as if so much of who I was was taken/ stolen from ur faith I may well feel the same way! Then again in BETTER than that !

Nowhere have I even said some of the things u lot r accusing me of and crying about!

BITTER CRYING BOUT 1984, blaming Hindus, LOOK CLOSER TO HOME, and you will see Bhindrawala and his men as the cause, and the inability of BADAL LONGOWAL to deal with him as the cause, do THEY WENT CRYING TO THE INDIAN GOVT!

This forum and other sikh forums are microcosms of sikh attitude towards non sikhs, and how much of a hell hole Khalistan wud have been!

At least us HINDU punjabis let u live in relative peace in Punjab!

If this is the attitude you sikhs have no wonder more Hindus don't want to come out and help you, we learned our lesson after saving u in Delhi 1984, but instead of saying thanks u diss us!

U take our spiritual ideas, our Hari mandir, our culture, language , 15032 references to HINDU gods in the Granth sahib, our holy festivals UE THIEVES AND BEGGERS

I thought the Hindu would surprise me and come up with some facts and figures to disprove my points but like a typically Punjabi Hindu he just spews venom. It's sad really how pathetic the Punjabi Hindu has become, rather than support the Sikhs in their agitation for the rights of all Punjabis, the Punjabi Hindu supported the Delhi government which cares nothing for him. The Punjabi Hindu has become a rootless tree in all the states of the former Punjab subject to the will of others. You have to feel sorry for them even though they bought it all upon themselves.

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Interesting information tony, where arya samaji fits into all of this? Are most of them are arya samajis? I have five hindu friends at work, all of them outside punjab ( maharastrian, guy from delhi , hindu from kashmir, tamil nadu and bengali), we go along pure fine, its only radical extermist punjabi hindus who are quite jealous of us and hate us for whatever reason.

These people are Arya Samajis such as the late Lala Jagat Narain who through their anti-Sikh policies have made the rest of the Punjabi Hindu population subservient in the three states of the former Punjab. It is quite an irony because had there been no Arya Samaj the likelihood is that the educated Punjabi Hindu population which took to the Arya Samaj would have gravitated to Sikhism. The Arya Samaj has caused the greatest of damage to the relations between Sikhs and Hindus in Punjab.

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Ekum, first off it is you and your Gidhar friend here who are history-chors and suffering from the inferiority complex. Most Punjabi Hindus started to follow Sikh customs like opting for an Anand Karaj instead of Hindu marriage, having Akhand Paaths instead of paying Pandits to do a Hindu Havan or pooja. Most of them also do Paath and listen to Kirtan. They are now like honorary Mona Sikhs. Soon they will become Sikhs, God willing. Half the Hindu population is leaving Hinduism and following break away Sikh cults like the Radhasoamis, Sacha Sauda, NoorMahalias. The days of Punjabi Hindus is numbered.

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There are plenty of HINDU punjabis in Delhi, ie we were the ones saving you women!

And we don't want rights just for punjabis we want rights for all Hindus and proud Indians in India, so why shud we join racist sikhs who learnt their history from the British! Only to now find out they didn't think much of you lot anyway, and planned to Free the HARIMANDIR

Wasn't arya samji hindu cult influenced by british victorian thought ?

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There are plenty of HINDU punjabis in Delhi, ie we were the ones saving you women!

And we don't want rights just for punjabis we want rights for all Hindus and proud Indians in India, so why shud we join racist sikhs who learnt their history from the British! Only to now find out they didn't think much of you lot anyway, and planned to Free the HARIMANDIR

Be honest, the Punjabi Hindu gets pushed around in all the the states of former East Punjab. You might think you rule the roost in Delhi but you don't. You are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the population, if anything Delhi is more likely to become a Bhaiyastan than Punjab. All your people are moving into gated developments and the so-called posh colonies such is the fear you have of the Bhaiya and Bangladeshi criminals in Delhi.

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Radhaswamis started by swami shiv Sayal worship the swami of Radhas swami lord krishna!

Noormahalis aka Divya Jyotis worship using the Vedas ramayan and if you youtube just these two groups YOU WILL SEE A HEAVY TURBANED PRESENCE!

Sikhi is dying in Punjab and through DERAS and modernisation SIKHS ARE BECOMING DERA MEMBERS, Hindus and Christians

ENJOY THE DERA SATSANGS!

Ps it's sikhs celebrating HINDU festivals like Rakhri Lohri AND DUSSEHRA IN DROVES!

Even doing HINDU poojas see Manmohan singh pm NAVJOT SIDHU POLITICIAN ON LINE!

Hindus don't do sikh festivals unlike you we got our own!

BUT ITS OK CARRY ON STEALING FROM US

Man, you are one ignorant fool making a fool of your self with your ignorance filled statements. Personally I don't like Radhasoamis but you claiming they are worshiping Krishan is the height of ignorance of their beliefs.

Today, half of the Punjabi Hindu population is following Sikh costoms, teaching their kids about Sikh Gurus and Gurbani. The other half is following breakaway Sikh cults like Radhasoamis, Sacha Saudha and NoorMahalias.

Due to the low birth rate of only having one kid per family soon Punjabi Hindus will become extinct in Punjab itself where Bhaya migrants and Sikhs are taking their place in the cities as well.

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Ok you won the argument when two muppets like Manmohan Singh and Navjot Sidhu do means that Sikhs are becoming Hindus. You obviously don't have a clue about what politicians will do to get the votes of fools like you.

As for Bhaiyastan, good luck to the Punjabi Hindus when the Bhaiyas take over in Delhi. You think they are you co-religionists and have some regard for you but all you and other Punjabi Hindus are to them are cash cows to have their necks slit and murdered for money.

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When a person has no valid points to make they only do one liners like this guy ekum.

His people are dying a slow death where they are being extinct due to low fertility rate and being gradually absorbed into Sikhism. In Punjab whether they vote for congress or bjp(Akali allies) either way it is Sikhs who rule over them. In PPP the 3rd alternative is Sikh dominated party. So religiously, politically, linguistically Punjabi Hindus are going to be finished soon.

In Delhi too, they are becoming increasingly insignificant because of Bhaya and Haryanvi migration there. Delhi police and all government jobs are all dominated by Haryanvis.

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The more you write and show your lack of knowledge the more I laugh. What bad karmas you have have done in your previously life times that God made a moorakh like you. I feel sorry for your parents

The Arya Samaj just temporarily prevented the eventual absorption of Punjabi Hindus into Sikhism. But now that Arya Samaj's evil influence is lessening on the Punjabi Hindus, the process of your people adopting Sikhi has again begun. In Punjab your people will become Sikhs, in other states and territories like Delhi, Punjabi Hindus are being absorbed into the Bhaya culture and turning into Bhayas. So the Punjabi Hindu is like endangered species. We are seeing the last of them in our generation. I'm thinking of taking a few pictures of you guys so I can show my kids and grand kids because in future PH will be extinct like the dodo bird.

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