Punjabi Hindu Terrorists Supplied Weapons To Gujarat Hindu Terrorists!

[Jonny101]

This Punjabi Hindu terrorist Jagdish Tangri was also a known enemy of the Sikhs. His Hindu terrorist network had killed Sikhs during the 1980s and is responsible for spreading much hatred against the peaceful Sikhs community. He had wanted to ethnically cleanse all of punjab of Sikhs by driving them into Pakistan. During the Gujarat riots when Hindu terrorists killed thousands of Muslims, the Punjabi Hindu terrorists Jagdish Tangri supplied weapons and money to be used against Muslim civilians.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030307/ldh1.htm

Tangri supplied arms to Gujarat rioters: ex-cohort

Tribune News Service

Ludhiana, March 6

A former accomplice of former Shiv Sena leader Jagdish Tangri has given under oath some startling details of how the leader and his son allegedly supplied arms and ammunition to members of a particular community in Gujarat last year, which were allegedly used in the riots in the state.

Mr Sai Dass, formerly a close associate of Mr Tangri, has turned approver in the arms supply case that hit the headlines last year. The district police has received a shot in the arm with this.

Mr Sai Dass was one of the five persons booked by the district police last year for supplying arms to some persons in Gujarat. The case had been registered at the Division number 3 police station on the recommendation of the SP City-I of Amritsar. The police officer had quoted intelligence inputs received about the supply of arms.

Four persons, including Mr Jagdish Tangri, Mr Sunil Tangri and Mr Ravinder Pal Singh, had been booked under charges amounting to waging a war against the Government of India by collecting and supplying arms and rioting. Barring Mr Sunil Tangri, all had been arrested.

The approver’s statement has taken the lid off the arms supply case. Till now, a few details were available of what had happened. The police had no more details than the directions of the police officer at Amritsar.

Highly placed police sources disclosed to TNS that Sai Dass, lodged at Central Jail here, had written a letter to the District and Sessions Judge through the jail officials, requesting him that he be made an approver. His request was accepted and he gave a statement to Mr Balwinder Kumar, JMIC, under Section 164 of the CrPc yesterday.

In his statement, the approver stated that in March last year, he had witnessed the events during which Mr Jagdish Tangri and others had allegedly struck the deal. He said three persons from Gujarat had come specifically for the purpose. He said Mr Jagdish Tangri and others had allegedly loaded bags of swords, knives and other weapons in a Tata Sumo. Police sources claimed that the weapons had been used during the riots.

“I had put three sacks filled with these weapons in the vehicle,” stated Mr Sai Dass before the Judge, police sources said. He also stated that Mr Tangri used to run his own court of law in Gur Mandi, settled disputes on his own terms and used to charge money.

Mr Anil Joshi, SHO, Division number 3 police station, declined to comment, saying it was part of the police investigation. He said that police had made some success in the case.

Mr Jagdish Tangri, his son Sunil and others had been booked and arrested last year. The charges included rioting, supplying arms, attacking policemen, pirating audio and video cassettes and compact discs, running a sort of parallel administration in the Gur Mandi and harbouring anti-social elements.

Edited January 19, 2014 by Jonny101

[Amarjeet Singh_1737]

This Punjabi Hindu terrorist Jagdish Tangri was also a known enemy of the Sikhs. His Hindu terrorist network had killed Sikhs during the 1980s and is responsible for spreading much hatred against the peaceful Sikhs community. He had wanted to ethnically cleanse all of punjab of Sikhs by driving them into Pakistan. During the Gujarat riots when Hindu terrorists killed thousands of Muslims, the Punjabi Hindu terrorists Jagdish Tangri supplied weapons and money to be used against Muslim civilians.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030307/ldh1.htm

Tangri supplied arms to Gujarat rioters: ex-cohort

Tribune News Service

Ludhiana, March 6

A former accomplice of former Shiv Sena leader Jagdish Tangri has given under oath some startling details of how the leader and his son allegedly supplied arms and ammunition to members of a particular community in Gujarat last year, which were allegedly used in the riots in the state.

Mr Sai Dass, formerly a close associate of Mr Tangri, has turned approver in the arms supply case that hit the headlines last year. The district police has received a shot in the arm with this.

Mr Sai Dass was one of the five persons booked by the district police last year for supplying arms to some persons in Gujarat. The case had been registered at the Division number 3 police station on the recommendation of the SP City-I of Amritsar. The police officer had quoted intelligence inputs received about the supply of arms.

Four persons, including Mr Jagdish Tangri, Mr Sunil Tangri and Mr Ravinder Pal Singh, had been booked under charges amounting to waging a war against the Government of India by collecting and supplying arms and rioting. Barring Mr Sunil Tangri, all had been arrested.

The approver’s statement has taken the lid off the arms supply case. Till now, a few details were available of what had happened. The police had no more details than the directions of the police officer at Amritsar.

Highly placed police sources disclosed to TNS that Sai Dass, lodged at Central Jail here, had written a letter to the District and Sessions Judge through the jail officials, requesting him that he be made an approver. His request was accepted and he gave a statement to Mr Balwinder Kumar, JMIC, under Section 164 of the CrPc yesterday.

In his statement, the approver stated that in March last year, he had witnessed the events during which Mr Jagdish Tangri and others had allegedly struck the deal. He said three persons from Gujarat had come specifically for the purpose. He said Mr Jagdish Tangri and others had allegedly loaded bags of swords, knives and other weapons in a Tata Sumo. Police sources claimed that the weapons had been used during the riots.

“I had put three sacks filled with these weapons in the vehicle,” stated Mr Sai Dass before the Judge, police sources said. He also stated that Mr Tangri used to run his own court of law in Gur Mandi, settled disputes on his own terms and used to charge money.

Mr Anil Joshi, SHO, Division number 3 police station, declined to comment, saying it was part of the police investigation. He said that police had made some success in the case.

Mr Jagdish Tangri, his son Sunil and others had been booked and arrested last year. The charges included rioting, supplying arms, attacking policemen, pirating audio and video cassettes and compact discs, running a sort of parallel administration in the Gur Mandi and harbouring anti-social elements.

Should we be?

(a) Shocked.

( Surprised.

© Angry.

(d) Afraid.

(e) or do nothing because we knew this was a plausibility.

I would personally recommend:

Dhol kuto ta ladoo bando.

Edited January 19, 2014 by Amarjeet Singh_1737

[Jonny101]

Should we be?

(a) Shocked.

( Surprised.

© Angry.

(d) Afraid.

(e) or do nothing because we knew this was a plausibility.

I would personally recommend:

Dhol kuto ta ladoo bando.

Problem is, Punjabi Hindus are very quick at pointing fingers at others when it's the skeletons in their own closet that they should be looking at. Punjabi Hindu terrorists like Jagdish Tangri and Pawan Kumar Sharma were not only protected by the Indian government while they killed Sikhs in cold blood but they were even allowed to grow.

Jagdish Tangri who was the leader of all India Shiv Sena, was also a pornographic distributor. When Capt Amrinder Singh was CM of Punjab, he had raided many people's houses who were known tax evaders. When Tangri's house was raided, they found a huge amount of pornographic material that he produced and distributed. This was just one of many of this perverted terrorist's illegal business activities.

Edited January 20, 2014 by Jonny101

[Amarjeet Singh_1737]

Problem is, Punjabi Hindus are very quick at pointing fingers at others when it's the skeletons in their own closet that they should be looking at. Punjabi Hindu terrorists like Jagdish Tangri and Pawan Kumar Sharma were not only protected by the Indian government while they killed Sikhs in cold blood but they were even allowed to grow.

Jagdish Tangri who was the leader of all India Shiv Sena, was also a pornographic distributor. When Capt Amrinder Singh was CM of Punjab, he had raided many people's houses who were known tax evaders. When Tangri's house was raided, they found a huge amount of pornographic material that he produced and distributed. This was just one of many of this perverted terrorist's illegal business activities.

'Indian Playboy,' tantric Kama Sutra, courtesy of Tangri (leg).

[jaikaara]

I dont see any information which says he has harmed Sikhs as a community. The swords were to help the hindu community in Gujarat.

[Jonny101]

I dont see any information which says he has harmed Sikhs as a community. The swords were to help the hindu community in Gujarat.

It doesn't say here on this article, but like other fanatic Punjabi Hindu terrorist leaders he was a sworn enemy of the Sikhs. He had climbed to the top leadership of the all India Shiv Sena during the 80s by spreading poisonous anti Sikh propaganda. He would would train others on how to kill Sikhs. But like poola and other murderers of the Sikhs, this man was fully protected by the government. Later on due to his other criminal activity he was finally arrested. But after being arrested it was found out he had also supplied weapons to the Hindu terrorists in Gurjarat to be used against Muslim civilians in the 2002 riots.

And what do you mean by "help the hindu community in Gujarat"?? what kind of help is that? like how the poor innocent peaceful Hindus helped each other in Delhi in killing Sikhs after Indira Gandhi died??

Sangat Jee, during the 2002 riots in Gujarat, Punjabi Hindus sent trucks loads of weapons to kill other human beings. On the other hand Sikhs sent truck load after truck load full of food to do langar Seva of the riot victims regardless of religion. That is the difference between Guru Jee's Sikhs and these History-Chors

Edited January 20, 2014 by Jonny101

[Amarjeet Singh_1737]

I dont see any information which says he has harmed Sikhs as a community. The swords were to help the hindu community in Gujarat.

Maybe Hindus shouldn't have demolished the mosque at Ayodhya.

Edited January 20, 2014 by Amarjeet Singh_1737

[jaikaara]

What Hindus should have or shouldn't have ..leave it to them ..first of all what i know is it wasn't a mosque in the complete sense ...it had pillars carved with hindu icons which no mosque has ..it was captured and taken over and i see nothing wrong in Hindus doing the same to regain what they lost.

[tonyhp32]

The Hindus have not regained anything, they just demolished an old derelict Mosque who has no historic or religious significance apart from that it is a Mosque. Even with their 80% brute majority they cannot even force the 15% Muslims to accept that the Ram temple can be built on the site. It would have been better if the Hindus had tried to build the Temple when the Mughals were still in charge or when some of the local Hindu Rajas had taken power, but they wait until the Muslims have been reduced to a small minority due to partition and then they kick up a fuss.

[jaikaara]

Tony You need to dig up facts before you come up to conclusions which don't seem to co-relate with facts.

[Jonny101]

The Hindus have not regained anything, they just demolished an old derelict Mosque who has no historic or religious significance apart from that it is a Mosque. Even with their 80% brute majority they cannot even force the 15% Muslims to accept that the Ram temple can be built on the site. It would have been better if the Hindus had tried to build the Temple when the Mughals were still in charge or when some of the local Hindu Rajas had taken power, but they wait until the Muslims have been reduced to a small minority due to partition and then they kick up a fuss.

Very true. In fact, if the police do not get involved and let the Muslim and Hindus have a fair fight, the Indian Muslims would massacre these Hindu rioters in Gujarat and else where. They always fight minorities with the protection of politicians and the police.

[Ekomkar]

Nonsense, keep dreaming the Hindus got sick of the Muslims acting hard so we took em out.

Same goes for sikhs in 1984, after seeing how lot feel about Hindus I have no sympathy for you lot either

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[Amarjeet Singh_1737]

The Hindus have not regained anything, they just demolished an old derelict Mosque who has no historic or religious significance apart from that it is a Mosque. Even with their 80% brute majority they cannot even force the 15% Muslims to accept that the Ram temple can be built on the site. It would have been better if the Hindus had tried to build the Temple when the Mughals were still in charge or when some of the local Hindu Rajas had taken power, but they wait until the Muslims have been reduced to a small minority due to partition and then they kick up a fuss.

When I asked around most of the residents said no one really knows where the original Ram Temple was. The Dalits were heavily opposed to the idea of building any temple. Especially since there were so many around considered to be the original. One of the residents said that the upper caste buffons only want the hill for the views (where the mosque was) and nothing more. Another individual showed me a programme he had recorded on tv, some guy kept on saying he had a dream where Ram Chandra told him to free him from captivity in the mosque. We both cracked up laughing. Out of all the things that could have been used, that was the best they could come up with. I also came across a documentary (will try hunting it out again) where a local Hindu priest explains how he was paid to place idols in the mosque, in order to engineer hostilities between both Hindus and Muslims; and that too by the local governor who was acting on behest of Nehru.

[Amarjeet Singh_1737]

What Hindus should have or shouldn't have ..leave it to them ..first of all what i know is it wasn't a mosque in the complete sense ...it had pillars carved with hindu icons which no mosque has ..it was captured and taken over and i see nothing wrong in Hindus doing the same to regain what they lost.

Hindu priests and vagabonds deliberately placed idols in the mosque. Local upper caste Hindus took up the cry that now the place had become a temple and moving the idols would mean blasphemy.

[tonyhp32]

Nonsense, keep dreaming the Hindus got sick of the Muslims acting hard so we took em out.

Same goes for sikhs in 1984, after seeing how lot feel about Hindus I have no sympathy for you lot either

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So you took it out on them! It is interesting how the fight back came after the British had gifted the country to the undeserving Hindus. Show me the Hindus fighting in places where they are a minority to the Muslims and then we might agree that you Hindus have some pride.

[Genie Singh]

Nonsense, keep dreaming the Hindus got sick of the Muslims acting hard so we took em out.

Same goes for sikhs in 1984, after seeing how lot feel about Hindus I have no sympathy for you lot either

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No way Hindu- Sikh bhai bhai hai, many hindu daughters and hindu sisters have married many Sikh brothers.

[jaikaara]

So you took it out on them! It is interesting how the fight back came after the British had gifted the country to the undeserving Hindus. Show me the Hindus fighting in places where they are a minority to the Muslims and then we might agree that you Hindus have some pride.

Tony veere same goes for apne living in afghanistan and pakistan ...this doesn't make sense ..

[Jonny101]

Tony veere same goes for apne living in afghanistan and pakistan ...this doesn't make sense ..

Common, Sikhs living in Pak and Afghanistan are only in the few thousands. What tony jee meant is at least a community being 10% of the over all population. Sikhs during the misl period were about 5% of the population of Punjab, Muslims were the majority followed closely by the Hindus. Yet Sikhs ruled the state. This is unprecedented.

Hindus living under Islamic rule where Hindus were the vast majority of the population. While Hindus all over India(with the exception of the Punjabi Hindus) did put up some resistance and have their own armies, but only in the case where they were the majority. Sikhs on the other hand were not a majority in any district of Punjab. Facing numerous genocides at the hands of the Muslim majority still coming on top and achieving victory. This was all Guru Jee's blessing for his Khalsa.

[jaikaara]

Jonny veere if we go by historical facts, the Khalsa fauj wasnt completely kesdhari ..Maharaj Ranjit singh's kingdom had a 70% + hindu population. So if we were to say that each and everyone with the Khalsa fauj was a saabat soorat khalsa will not make sense, there were many sympathizers too...here is a text of a hukumnama which is said to be issued by Guru Gobindsingh ji and is currently in Patna sahib

Ek Oankar Satguru ji. Siri Guru ji di agaya hai Bhai Mihar Chand Karam Chand, Guru rakhega. Guru japna janam saurega. Tusi mera Khalsa ho. Ik sau ik 101 rupiah haathi di phurmais hukam dekhde he sitabee hundee karai bhejni. Ar hor jo kichh Guru ke namit ka hovai so apai lai avna. Hathiar banh ke avgu so nihal hogu. Us di ghaal thai pavagu Guru naal rahgu. Guru ke navit ka hovai so horus kise no nahee dena ar masand, masandiay naal naahee milna, nahee mannanna, Jo sikh mile so mail laina. Vadheek dikkat naahee karni. Mera hukam hai sangat. Sammat 1758 miti Fago 10, satran Ath 8."


Now in the above text Guruji addresses 2 sehajdharis with 'Chand' in their names as Khalsa and asks them to bring 101 rupees and a elephant.

Edited January 21, 2014 by jaikaara

[Jonny101]

Jonny veere if we go by historical facts, the Khalsa fauj wasnt completely kesdhari ..Maharaj Ranjit singh's kingdom had a 70% + hindu population. So if we were to say that each and everyone with the Khalsa fauj was a saabat soorat khalsa will not make sense, there were many sympathizers too...here is a text of a hukumnama which is said to be issued by Guru Gobindsingh ji and is currently in Patna sahib

Ek Oankar Satguru ji. Siri Guru ji di agaya hai Bhai Mihar Chand Karam Chand, Guru rakhega. Guru japna janam saurega. Tusi mera Khalsa ho. Ik sau ik 101 rupiah haathi di phurmais hukam dekhde he sitabee hundee karai bhejni. Ar hor jo kichh Guru ke namit ka hovai so apai lai avna. Hathiar banh ke avgu so nihal hogu. Us di ghaal thai pavagu Guru naal rahgu. Guru ke navit ka hovai so horus kise no nahee dena ar masand, masandiay naal naahee milna, nahee mannanna, Jo sikh mile so mail laina. Vadheek dikkat naahee karni. Mera hukam hai sangat. Sammat 1758 miti Fago 10, satran Ath 8."

Now in the above text Guruji addresses 2 sehajdharis with 'Chand' in their names as Khalsa and asks them to bring 101 rupees and a elephant.

70% hindu population? historically that's inaccurate. Population west of Sutlej was majority Muslim, followed by Hindus and lastly the Sikhs. But if 70% is the number, then that reflects even worse on the Hindu Punjabi. That means before the Sikhs took over, the 70% Hindu majority population was being ruled over by the Muslims, and yet not a single Hindu resistance movement? Dayum! that's sad

[jaikaara]

So u mean they were foolish in obeying the Khalsa Raaj ? Do you think we grow on trees ? It was people from this population who took amrit , Singh Sajje and became tyar bar tyaar . Our own forefathers were once part of this population and then many took amrit and became Singhs.

[Jonny101]

So u mean they were foolish in obeying the Khalsa Raaj ? Do you think we grow on trees ? It was people from this population who took amrit , Singh Sajje and became tyar bar tyaar . Our own forefathers were once part of this population and then many took amrit and became Singhs.

The first point I made was that all over India, where ever the Hindus were the majority they were ruled by Muslims. But in defense of the Hindus I also mentioned that where ever they were the majority atleast they also had some resistance movements and armies. But no where did the Hindus fight back where they became the minority. Case in point: the Hindus of Punjab who were the minority by a slim margin but were ruled by the Muslims so thoroughly that they never once rose up in rebellion. But you in trying to make a defensive point in favour of the Hindus unwittingly said they were the 70% majority which actually reflects even worse on the Hindu Punjabis than if they were the minority because that suggests that they were even bigger cowards for not rising up once in rebellion despite being a such a huge majority.

Thankfully, I know for a fact that your 70% estimate is historically inaccurate.

The Sikhs come from both Hindus and Muslim population of Punjab who saw the light of Sikhi and embraced it.

And no they were not foolish for obeying Khalsa Raaj because Khalsa Raaj was just and fair. But they were cowardly for obeying Islamic Raaj because Islamic Raaj was oppressive to the non Muslims. Sikhi teaches us that doing Zulm on others is wrong but tolerating Zulm is even worse which is why such a small minority Sikh population did not tolerate the oppression of Islamic Raaj.

Edited January 21, 2014 by Jonny101

[jaikaara]

The point is ..the Fauj did not consist of just Amritdharis there were others too and the Hindu population was bigger in number . You are trying to draw line which even the Gurus did not .

[Jonny101]

The point is ..the Fauj did not consist of just Amritdharis there were others too and the Hindu population was bigger in number . You are trying to draw line which even the Gurus did not .

Anyway, I'm not here to argue with you. I personally don't have anything against any community. I only posted here because of two Hindutva fanatics Ekomkar and his friend Sher(di khal vich Gidhar) who started posting in favour of operation bluestar and started to do blatant chori of our history. I've had dialogues with Hindus in the past, but most of them were fair minded who were mature enough to recognize state propaganda from truth once they were shown the facts. But these two are not here for a serious dialogue but just here to spread their anti Sikh propaganda. So I gave it back to them and look how fast "ekomkar" guy revealed his Anti Sikh views here.

[Jonny101]

Well, speaking for myself, i supported the idea behind OBS - to throw terrorists out from hrmandar sahib and restore its pre-Bhindran maryada. I have always criticised the way OBS was carried out. It was a mega intel failure. those who think that Indira wanted to destroy Akal Takht and harmandar sahib, idiots it would have taken just one bomb from fighter jet to do the job, no need to sacrifice 100 Jawans and officers.

History chori, that's what pathetic neo-Sikhs do. banda was a HIndu when Guru sahib asked for his help and Banda died a Hindu. that too a strict vaishnav.

Oye History Chora, Just because a person is born a Hindu does not mean he remains a Hindu for the rest of his life. Baba Jee was born a Hindu but after meeting Guru Gobind SIngh Jee, he became a Sikh and Amritdhari. I have already given you names from Hindu, Muslim, Sikh and Christian historians besides also puraatan sources which clearly say Baba Banda Singh Bahadur took Amrit from Guru Gobind SIngh Jee. You on the other hand have shown me absolutely NO reference to back up your claim. The first and only person to claim Baba Jee never took Amrit was a Fanatic Arya Samaji Parma Nand who wrote this lie in his book Banda Bairagi in 1925. And he made this claim without any reference. The fact that you are still trying to carry on this claim even after it has been proven false from a historian point of view just proves you are not here as a truth seeker but just here to spread your propaganda.

I request the admins to take action against this person. Sukhmani Sahib has a whole Ashtpadi about how big it is a paap of doing Nindya of a Sant. This man is openly doing Nindya of Sant Jarnail Singh bhindranwale by calling him a "terrorist". Or atleast he could be put under quality control if he still persists in doing Sant Kee Ninda. He needs to learn how to behave on a Sikh forum. He should not take advantage of our Sharaafat and be allowed to spread his propaganda here.

Edited January 21, 2014 by Jonny101