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As one does more and more naam simran the mind becomes still and he hears these sounds naturally or sometimes spontaneously. Don't stop your bhagti whatever you are doing and start looking for sounds. This post is designed more for those who might already be hearing such sounds. I found quite a lot of information on what these sounds are but not what you do with them. This was the first text I read where someone explained possibly a next step on the journey. How to move from one sound to the next. Where you can hear the sounds and where to focus. Was interesting the guy said focus on the swirl of the head because I always thought it was the top.

I personally am doing so much research on these sounds because I'm hearing this stuff quite alot at night and I haven't got the foggiest idea what it means or what to do when it happens apart from listen. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night with a massive vibration in my ear that gives me such a shock as if someone has put a speaker to my ear. It was nice to just read that these sounds can be perceived to be near and far. Now noted that they can even cause vibrations in you.. Its all a learning game for us.

Lucky,

I've posted the main juice from the book but I recommend you buy it and have a quick read yourself. I don't want to type up everything it said. There is quite a bit of padding but there are useful bits of information too.

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Here is some more from the book:

In addition to auditory perceptions, there are several related physical sensations that can accompany the sound current. These would include:

Fizzing – This is similar to static electricity on your skin, like the kind caused by a wool sweater when the humidity is low or by clothes just out of the dryer.

Vibrating – This is energy running in the body. It feels like mild electric current.

Tetany – This is an exaggerated version of the fixing and vibrating. Numbness, cramping and pain may accompany it.

Pressure Over the Ears – This feels like the sensation of taking off in a airplane or as if some has cupped her hands over your ears, but there is usually no sensation of actually being touched. Outer sounds may be muffed along with the sense of pressure.

Tunnel Vision – Peripheral vision may disappear. The sensation is that of looking through a tunnel. There may be an accompanying felling of movement through the tunnel. The walls of the tunnel may appear dark or seem to be made of light or branded light that can streak by with apparent motion.

Visual Hallucinations – Close contact with the sound current can completely alter one’s state of awareness. You may see sounds as light or enter into a visionary state. Experienced guidance is advisable in the “mystical” encounters, but be aware that you possess you own inner guide.

The Extraordinary – Because the perception of the sound current feeds the mechanism of perception itself, extraordinary experiences may occur. It is for this reason that techniques for perceiving the sound current have, in the past, been guarded by mystery schools. These secret practices were shown only to specially prepared “initiates” or devotional students.

Everyone has access to the sound current. I feel that everyone instinctively understands the sound current, but will allow our fears and desire for control to overwhelm our natural growth.

A flower blooms in its time. Spiritual growth should not be dictated. Each of us needs to discover his or her inner truth and spiritual powers. In spiritual matters, we need to learn to relax and listen to our innermost feelings.

This is especially true in the case of fear. Though fear is a natural response to the unknown, it can prevent us from passing through gateways to our evolution. This is often the situation people find themselves stuck in when it comes to the extraordinary sensations accompanying the sound current.

Do not be afraid of the sound. Be prepared to step into the extraordinary. If you need help, ask for it. If you ask, it will manifest.

The sound current is a gateway to enlightenment. It is also the foundation of reality, the primal tone of creation. It holds limitless power.

When is a person wise enough to bathe in such power? Maybe never. Sometimes you must begin on faith and proceed to wisdom. Wisdom comes through experience. You must allow yourself to wade into water before you can learn to swim.

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The ringing in the ears which is called Tinnitus is not Anhad Shabad. Radhasoamis focus on the tinnitus and think it is Anhad Shabad they are hearing. Anhad Shabad or the unstuck sound is something that is very divine and out of this world and this avastha is realized only in the higher stages in the spiritual ladder.

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So how does one know which one they are hearing?

Do you see much difference with what was said above to this:

Discourse given by Sant Baba Isher Singh (Rare Wale) where his instructions were as follows with regards to the Anhad Shabad:

Sit in a secluded place and for 2.5 hours, closing eyes and keeping back straight at 90 degrees.

Keep on listening to the sound ringing in both ears and be intoxicated with it. One should hear this sound for 8-10 days.

After that one should direct one's consciousness to on the right ear. An extremely fine and sweet sound sound will begin to be heard from the right ear.

After about 10 days one should withdraw one's consciousness and cease to hear the sounds, ringing in the two ears.

After some effort one would be able to hear a sound from the Agya-chakkar (at the root of the two eyes and the nose). It is the same sound that one used to hear from the right ear.

After concentrating on the Agya chakkar, one should keep on hearing this music for 1 month or 2 and recognize it as the symbol of the Formless God.

Then one should uplift ones consciousness and listen to the music from the point where the ey-brows begin. After practicing for 2-3

months with full concentration one should raise the consciousness to up to the head, to the point where 4 parts of the oranium join which is called the palate. This point is also called the tenth gate.

After practicing this for 3 months one should hear the music from the back of the head, at the point where the backbone (spine) touches the Sukhmana Nadi. One should practice here for 5-6 months.

After this when the seeker becomes full adept, he should concentrate his consciousness on the tip of the nose. At his point he would see strange supra-worldy sights and one acquires carious kinds of power. This practice will take some two years. But there is a supreme need to keep watch on the instructions ordained here. Eager enthusiasm is required beyond limit. Under these activities, one would see different kinds of lights, strange sights of secret worlds and hear strange musical strains.

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If I listen to these sounds how will it help me progress?Wouldnt I just be stuck in trying to find the sound and not progress at all?What if it's a play of maya and trying to lure us away from real bhagti?

Dear Singh Jee,

as per your doubt if one will progress or not.... our whole Gurmat is based on Shabad....

And the Bani beautifully says:

Anter Jot, Niranter Bani, Sachay Sahib siu liv lae.

Means, within us is the divine Light, from it cometh the Sound, the Bani; which developes love in us for the True Lord. This Shabad, is the real creator, that is why Guru Nanak Dev Maharaj says:

Shabde dhartee, Shabde Akash, Shabde Shabad hoa parkash. Saglee Shreeste Shabad ke paachey, Nanak Shabad ghate ghat aachhey.

It is this very Shabad, which cuts our bondages of karmas(Nanak, Shabad karam kee lekh kataveh), mind(Prabh ka Simran, maan kee mael jae), maya.

This very Shabad is also the guide for thr sikh disciple in the inner spiritual planes ( Shabad Guru(guide), Dhun(soul) chela(disciple)..... do not worry, one will not get distracted by these sounds, as they will pull one´s attention, will catch automaticaly one´s attention...and each sound is a milestone, means depending on what one hears, shows one´s level of consciousness reached... of course, these things are not to be talked of so lightly, or debated ... they to be experienced by each one of us.

The full Granth Sahib is nothing but Glory of this Shabad; upto the extent, that it is said, in the beginning when Aad Guru had not manifested itself as Satnam, He was absorbed, in His Shabad swaroop....then He decided to manifest Himself, and everything took place later on, but that, even Wahiguru , Satnam or Satpurukh is a manifestation, or let us say projection, of Shabad...

Shabad is wonderfull, is sweet nectar( Amrit Bani), is bliss.... is Anamee. (Words fail to describe its mahanta)

Waheguru.

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So how does one know which one they are hearing?

Do you see much difference with what was said above to this:

Discourse given by Sant Baba Isher Singh (Rare Wale) where his instructions were as follows with regards to the Anhad Shabad:

Sit in a secluded place and for 2.5 hours, closing eyes and keeping back straight at 90 degrees.

Keep on listening to the sound ringing in both ears and be intoxicated with it. One should hear this sound for 8-10 days.

After that one should direct one's consciousness to on the right ear. An extremely fine and sweet sound sound will begin to be heard from the right ear.

After about 10 days one should withdraw one's consciousness and cease to hear the sounds, ringing in the two ears.

After some effort one would be able to hear a sound from the Agya-chakkar (at the root of the two eyes and the nose). It is the same sound that one used to hear from the right ear.

After concentrating on the Agya chakkar, one should keep on hearing this music for 1 month or 2 and recognize it as the symbol of the Formless God.

Then one should uplift ones consciousness and listen to the music from the point where the ey-brows begin. After practicing for 2-3

months with full concentration one should raise the consciousness to up to the head, to the point where 4 parts of the oranium join which is called the palate. This point is also called the tenth gate.

After practicing this for 3 months one should hear the music from the back of the head, at the point where the backbone (spine) touches the Sukhmana Nadi. One should practice here for 5-6 months.

After this when the seeker becomes full adept, he should concentrate his consciousness on the tip of the nose. At his point he would see strange supra-worldy sights and one acquires carious kinds of power. This practice will take some two years. But there is a supreme need to keep watch on the instructions ordained here. Eager enthusiasm is required beyond limit. Under these activities, one would see different kinds of lights, strange sights of secret worlds and hear strange musical strains.

Would one be doing simran while listening to the sounds?Or would they just be listening to the sound?

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You start with simran of Gurmantar with your dhyan on the sound of the jaap. When your mind sits and listens and quietens in its flights of thought then with gurus grace you will slowly begin to hear the internal sounds.

Then you stop your jaap and concentrate on the sound coming from within.

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Then you stop your jaap and concentrate on the sound coming from within.

I'm still working on this, by trying to do 'ajapa jap'.

Previously, i never quite understood how ajapa jap or rom rom would work in practice, but i seem to have a much better idea I think !

I found that it was much easier to go into a deeper meditative state since the sounds started.

My aim is usually to try and get into ajapa jap whereby the jap becomes like auto pilot with heart beat and breath, and then try and focus on sound.

-I'm not actually too sure if this is the right thing to do, but at the moment it seems the most comfortable and effortless approach.

Sometimes it will be for just 5 minutes and sometimes it may go for much longer.- my idea is too try and prolong it whilst trying to get deeper and deeper.

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The ringing in the ears which is called Tinnitus is not Anhad Shabad. Radhasoamis focus on the tinnitus and think it is Anhad Shabad they are hearing. Anhad Shabad or the unstuck sound is something that is very divine and out of this world and this avastha is realized only in the higher stages in the spiritual ladder.

The internal Nada or Sound Current is not a disease condition. The proof of this meditation is in its effects afterwards. Listening intently, with love and care to the highest and finest tones will charge the internal battery and increase vitality of spirit.

It can also lead to hearing the inner music, the bells and orchestras that are not like any Earthly music. The most accessible path is the high pitched tone heard within the upper right area of the head.

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The ringing in the ears which is called Tinnitus is not Anhad Shabad. Radhasoamis focus on the tinnitus and think it is Anhad Shabad they are hearing. Anhad Shabad or the unstuck sound is something that is very divine and out of this world and this avastha is realized only in the higher stages in the spiritual ladder.

I do still have these doubts at time of whether it is just some kind of tinnitus and i am under false illusion !

I don't know but how would i really know ?

Somehow, I always get some kind of personal message or reassurance from waheguru that it's the correct path.

There are other things (mystical) that you notice, that I don't think you would with medical condition of tinnitus !

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Good to do experiment or enjoy sights seeing/tasting bliss of divine while on the highway of divine beauty but do always remember final destination in the back of head so one does not get caught up in these experiences..i won't say these things itself are trap itself as its simply reference points beauty of divine on the way...one should be cautious of their perception surronding them as attachement towards them can turn them into road block or hindrance...final destination goal in gurmat is beyond dasam dwara 3rd eye opening, anhad shabad ultimate goal of gurmat is get rid of five vices/pan chors, super imposed latent tendencies and egoic mind-thought/ego perception and realize our real self /shabad gyan that we have forgotten in avidya/ignorance as gurbani gives updesh-
Aapna mul pashaano (recognize your true nature/know thyself, the source substance/substratum of your very existence).
Man Tu Jot Saroop hai apna Mool Painchain ||

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The actual sound will vary depending on many factors such as one's health, time of day, amount of exercise, location of meditation -- and of course one's level of heart and spiritual development. Each one can find what detracts or enhances it.

It can easily happen that a vague or far-away sound can become sweet and powerful just by patience, focus and relaxation.

It is best to focus attention on the upper right of the head while listening. It is easy to become captivated by one's mental pictures and memories, but bring the attention up to the top-right of the head as often as possible.

Performing this meditation before sleep, and/or in the middle of the sleep cycle, can have a dramatic and very positive effect on one's dreams and comfort in sleep.

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It's 12:45am here and I'm lying down in bed with my left side on the pillow. The sound is in full swing and audible from my right ear. It's like someone is playing random notes on a flute type instrument but the notes are longer, it's quite faint but I can hear it vividly. I turn over so my right ear is on my pillow and I can still hear it. It's like the pipes of my heating system are playing musical notes, if I hadn't heard the same sound in other houses at night I would be convinced it was something in my house or room. Anyway will try and listen to it and try and enter if I can before I dose off.

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The old practice is to put the thumbs in the ears, or close the flap over the ear opening. Holding the arms up like this can get tiring.

Some will rest the elbows on a surface. But earplugs are better.

Even better are the earmuff-type hearing protectors typically worn to protect the ears from noise. Nothing need be inserted in the ear.

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So how does one know which one they are hearing?

Do you see much difference with what was said above to this:

Discourse given by Sant Baba Isher Singh (Rare Wale) where his instructions were as follows with regards to the Anhad Shabad:

Sit in a secluded place and for 2.5 hours, closing eyes and keeping back straight at 90 degrees.

Keep on listening to the sound ringing in both ears and be intoxicated with it. One should hear this sound for 8-10 days.

After that one should direct one's consciousness to on the right ear. An extremely fine and sweet sound sound will begin to be heard from the right ear.

After about 10 days one should withdraw one's consciousness and cease to hear the sounds, ringing in the two ears.

After some effort one would be able to hear a sound from the Agya-chakkar (at the root of the two eyes and the nose). It is the same sound that one used to hear from the right ear.

After concentrating on the Agya chakkar, one should keep on hearing this music for 1 month or 2 and recognize it as the symbol of the Formless God.

Then one should uplift ones consciousness and listen to the music from the point where the ey-brows begin. After practicing for 2-3

months with full concentration one should raise the consciousness to up to the head, to the point where 4 parts of the oranium join which is called the palate. This point is also called the tenth gate.

After practicing this for 3 months one should hear the music from the back of the head, at the point where the backbone (spine) touches the Sukhmana Nadi. One should practice here for 5-6 months.

After this when the seeker becomes full adept, he should concentrate his consciousness on the tip of the nose. At his point he would see strange supra-worldy sights and one acquires carious kinds of power. This practice will take some two years. But there is a supreme need to keep watch on the instructions ordained here. Eager enthusiasm is required beyond limit. Under these activities, one would see different kinds of lights, strange sights of secret worlds and hear strange musical strains.

All I'm saying is tinnitus is not Anhad Shabad. Only Radhasoamnis call the tinnitus as Anhad Shabad. Anhad Shabad sound is something that is directly from Sachkhand and can only be heard by those who have a lot of Naam Kamaee. In the starting stages it is best to focus on the Naam Dhuni. Train the mind at Amritvela hours to focus on the Dhuni of Naam Simran. The more Balvaan the mind becomes in focusing one will experience a number of extra ordinary signs. Bandgi Nama by Raghbir Singh Bir is a must read for ones who want to walk on the path of Gurmat Naam Simran.

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Good to do experiment or enjoy sights seeing/tasting bliss of divine while on the highway of divine beauty but do always remember final destination in the back of head so one does not get caught up in these experiences..i won't say these things itself are trap itself as its simply reference points beauty of divine on the way...one should be cautious of their perception surronding them as attachement towards them can turn them into road block or hindrance...final destination goal in gurmat is beyond dasam dwara 3rd eye opening, anhad shabad ultimate goal of gurmat is get rid of five vices/pan chors, super imposed latent tendencies and egoic mind-thought/ego perception and realize our real self /shabad gyan that we have forgotten in avidya/ignorance as gurbani gives updesh-

Aapna mul pashaano (recognize your true nature/know thyself, the source substance/substratum of your very existence).

Man Tu Jot Saroop hai apna Mool Painchain ||

Fair point N30 but the focus of the discussion is let's say one is doing simran of Gurmantar and you hear the sounds. Obviously a transition point comes when you make the switch to the other one. The meditative practice becomes dhyan avasta I believe, when rather than doing mental jaap you focus on just listening to these sounds. The next question arises how to navigate the sounds. Is it by listening to the one sound at different positions or attaching oneself to different sounds in sequence, in essence climbing the ladder, or a combination of the two.

Maybe these are advanced questions and we can't get these answers on forums or books.

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I do still have these doubts at time of whether it is just some kind of tinnitus and i am under false illusion !

I don't know but how would i really know ?

Somehow, I always get some kind of personal message or reassurance from waheguru that it's the correct path.

There are other things (mystical) that you notice, that I don't think you would with medical condition of tinnitus !

Maybe you are hearing Anhad Shabad or maybe it could be another divine experience. There are a lot of Avasthas in between in which the Abhyasee may hear, see or experience many different things. I have heard that one should not focus on what they experience at the time of their meditation because then they will come to a stand still(Khardikala). While you are meditating keep focusing on the Dhuni of Naam because it will keep taking you to higher spiritual levels. Strike while the iron is still hot, don't let it cool down with distractions.

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Another interesting bit.. which might not be everyone's cup of tea.

Hidden Wisdom

If the sound current is so ubiquitous (seeming to be everywhere), why have I never heard of it? The first and most obvious reason we have already touched upon. People are reluctant to discuss private conceptions which they do not consider part of everyone else's normal reality.

The sound current is one of those personal events that many experience but few people speak of it. Other reasons why information about the sound current is so well hidden may surprise you.

Even seasoned teachers of mystic practices are often not familiar with sound current techniques. Most, even if they are aware of the sound currents presence, are not aware of its significance.

Hidden from Plain Sight

I once worked with a revered yoga teacher. Various ringing and buzzing noises plagued one of her students while practising breathing meditations. The yoga teacher herself had experienced the same phenomenon. Eventually, she was referred to me. She was amazed that she was not familiar with nada yoga even after decades of in-depth yoga studies.

I showed her a book Fundamentals of Yoga, which was already familiar to her. She was fascinated when I pointed to a discussion of the sound current. The true nature of the topic had not been previously apparent to her. She was even more impressed when she read through the passages with new awareness of the sound current. The author cited the sound current, or nada, as the source of all manifestation and the undisputed pathway to enlightenment. Although this yoga teacher had read the book numerous times before, she had not realised the significance of the passages, or they referred to internally audible sounds.

This is a classic example of how information about the sound current is hidden from plain sight. References in the literature are usually brief and obscure by design. An uninitiated reader can pass over these profound statements without realising what is being discussed.

For someone who is not experienced the sound current, it is a most abstract topic. Even for those with personal experience, the literature usually hovers nearer to the realm of mystic poetry and rarely makes definitive statements. Often a passage seeks emotional or intuitive response rather than rational clarity, so the language can be highly symbolic.

Knowledge Lives

Modern students of esoteric practices realise that a great deal of guarded knowledge is now being widely disseminated. Even so, information about the sound current is still cloistered (separated from and communicating with the outside world). It has been such a deeply held secret for so long that it is having trouble find its way into the public consciousness.

There are people who know a great deal about the sound current. Many individuals and spiritual schools are committed to its study, but this information is still not part of the public domain.

Bear in mind those communities of spiritual seekers that have guarded their practices involving the sound current consider the sound current to be our most direct and intimate connection with the Source of Creation. It is considered the structuring force of the Cosmos, the most sacred of all issues. For some, its profound nature is reason enough to maintain privacy. For others, including myself, that is the very reason why the information should become public at this pivotal time in our evolution.

Both arguments aside, secrecy has been consciously practiced. I see three motives why groups and individuals have done so.

Power The sound current is considered by many to be the most potent force available to human beings.

Greed Power corrupts, and many have sought to harness the sound current for personal power over others.

Karma Acquiring Karma during ones life IS an important issue in many eastern philosophies. Personal liability for ones actions regarding the omnipotent sound current has played a key role in the history of the sound current schools. If the idea of your religion is to eradicate personal energy ties with the manifest world, then interacting with other peoples direct link to the Source of Creation is definitely not to be taken lightly.

Because of the perceived serious nature of the sound current by those who have studied it in the past, it has remained largely and occult activity. It has traditionally been taught in a devotional setting, through a student and master relationship, where it has been wrongly perceived that the guru bestowed the sound current on the student.

Unconscious Secrecy

The sound current has been guarded throughout human history just as all objects of power have been similarly guarded and coveted. There are, however other reasons why the information available is so inadequate. Some are unintentional. One reason for the deficiency of practical information lies in the methods and philosophies of eastern teaching, which until recently was the main source of information about the sound current.

In many eastern esoteric (very unusual and understood or liked by a small number of people, especially those with special knowledge) practices, there is a tremendous emphasis on emulating the teacher. Students learn through a kind of osmosis (the process of gradual or unconscious assimilation of ideas, knowledge, etc.), by emulating their instructors. Lessons are often transferred in a devotional setting, meaning the students devote themselves to the teacher. This ensures the absolute attention and dedication of the pupils.

Devotional teaching formats forge a tremendous bond between student and master, allowing for very intense interactions. These methods also tend to circumvent sceptical review by the student so the student becomes dependent on the teacher. This can lead to stagnation in personal evolution and can be highly unsatisfying to the rational side of the students nature.

I tell my students that they should only give total devotion their inner Self and highest Source. Their highest available guidance on a conscious level may come from a physical teacher, but that will not last long on a good spiritual path. Eventually, students become their own teachers. They establish a clear link between themselves and Source. Inner Silent Knowledge becomes their guide. This has certainly been my experience in my own practice of the sound current techniques.

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Below is some info on ajapa jap, which has made me pursue this approach whilst hearing the anhad naad.

It has also been referenced in some very early posts below

http://www.sikhawareness.com/index.php/topic/7613-ajapa-jaap/

AJAPA JAAP (continuous repetition of Naam/ Waheguru) is the spiritual condition of a person when the Simran (repitition of Waheguru) goes on an auto pilot mode in your Surat (mind) and in your Hirdey (heart) as explained below. It means that Simran becomes a round the clock thing inside you, Simran doesn’t stop at any moment, it carries on and such a condition comes with Gurkirpa (God/ the guru’s blessing) and after a lot of Bhagti Kamai(meditation) or can also be attained with the Kirpa (blessings) of a Puran Braham Gyani(ascended master). The experiences of bliss follow a path such as this:

1. Jaap (repetition) with Tounge – Rasna – this happens in Dharam Khand

2. Jaap with the breathing – with Swaas – this happens in Gyan Khand and Saram Khand

3. Then Naam (waheguru) goes into your mind – Surat, in your thinking, then it becomes Simran from Jaap – this is a very good stage – this happens in Saram Khand and Karam Khand. (silent jap with anhad naad begins)

4. The next stage is when Simran goes into Hirdey – this one is even much higher stage when Naam goes into Hirdey – this is where it goes on an automatic mode, this is where the real bhagti(meditation) starts. (this is the auto Ajapa jap as mentioned )

5. The next stage is when Simran travels to the Nabhi, when Nabhi Kamal(lotus)blossoms – Karam Khand

6. The next Stage is when Simran goes into Kundlini – Mooladhaar Chakkar and spine – Karam Khand

7. The next stage is when Simran travels through the spine to the brain, and back to Surat where it completes the cycle.

This is what the real Mala (rosary) of Naam (meditation) is. When this happens then the Gyan Netter and Dassam Duaar (10th Gate) opens and you form a permanent connection with Akal Purakh (God), you start to receive divine knowledge – “Braham Gyan”.- This happens in Sach Khand. Enjoyment – Anand in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi is beyond description.

That is why the enlightened souls go into very deep meditation some time for days together. You experience a lot of things during your Smadhi and Sun Smadhi, see a lot of things, meet a lot of Saints, Gurus, see Param Jyot, conversation with the Sants and Akal Purakh , it is beyond description wh at happens and through what you go when you go into deep meditation. This is the stage when all the doors – Bajjar Kapaat are opened and there is a continuous flow of Amrit, body is always full of Amrit.

8. The Simran in Smadhi and Sun Smadhi continues until NIRGUN AND SARGUN becomes one, at this point Simran goes into rom-rom – every bit of your body does Naam Simran, your Suksham Dehi becomes as pure as gold, your entire body is filled with Naam Amrit all the time. You become Braham Leen, and reach Atal Awastha.
These stages are beyond description. Sat Chit Anand Ghar Hamare – Gurmukh Rom Rom Har Dhyae – Nirgun Sargun Nirankaar Sun Smadhi Aap, Apan Kia Nanka Apan Hi Fir Jaap and so on. One lives in Puran Parkash all the time and listens to Ilahi
Kirtan(heavenly Kirtan/singing)– Anhad Naad Dhunis (heavenly music) all the time.

I have also read that Anhad naad can begin to manifest in the transformation from Gyan khand to Saram khand.

Maybe you are hearing Anhad Shabad or maybe it could be another divine experience. There are a lot of Avasthas in between in which the Abhyasee may hear, see or experience many different things. I have heard that one should not focus on what they experience at the time of their meditation because then they will come to a stand still(Khardikala). While you are meditating keep focusing on the Dhuni of Naam because it will keep taking you to higher spiritual levels. Strike while the iron is still hot, don't let it cool down with distractions.

Many higher beings advise that the nam jap should stop when anhad dhuni starts. For quite some time, i carried on with regular nam jap and trying to leave the sounds in the background !

I am getting the strong inclination that ajapa jap should be my next approach, but I could be completely wrong !

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..i won't say these things itself are trap itself as its simply reference points beauty of divine on the way...one should be cautious of their perception surronding them as attachement towards them can turn them into road block or hindrance...final destination goal in gurmat is beyond dasam dwara 3rd eye opening, anhad shabad ultimate goal of gurmat is get rid of five vices/pan chors, super imposed latent tendencies and egoic mind-thought/ego perception and realize our real self /shabad gyan that we have forgotten in avidya/ignorance as gurbani gives updesh-

In all honesty, I personally feel it has had the opposite effect to a road block !

It has made me realise that i have a very long way to still go and there is so much more. As an idea, I feel it is ONLY a fraction (1/10th) of the complete journey to sachkhand.

The only thing that can worry me at times is that I may feel that everyone thinks I'm becoming introverted and detached. But I am far from that because I feel much more in touch and attached with REALITY.

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I can totally relate to what you are saying. I actually feel internal detachment occurring that I have to force myself to remain grounded so to speak.

A kind member on here recommended I read the following book.

http://www.vidhia.com/Bhai%20Randheer%20Singh%20Ji/Anhad-shabad-dasam-duar.pdf

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