The Ringing Sound (Anhad Shabad; Sound Current)

[Sahib]

the theory you are talking here is actualy radhaswamis philosophy..this is the only reason that it is a seperate cult coz they believe sikhs now nomore teach this technique which sggs talks about ..this is what they think

[Sat1176]

It is taught Sahib ji, you just got to know where to look. But yes there isn't much focus on it in the mainstream Sikhi.

Edited March 7, 2014 by Sat1176

[Sahib]

So its good to avoid these sounds or not?..what have you guys concluded

[namdhari555]

Panj Shabad, Anhad Bani and Sehaj Dhun

The terms used in the chapter include panj Shabad, anhad bani and
sehaj dhun. These are in the form of music tunes. Panj shabad
means the five divine sounds. They resound in the house of mind
and also with Truth. The divine speech of Truth is known as Anhad
Bani. It is the best of all the speeches. Truth Himself gives this
speech. Sehaj dhun is the divine Word of Truth. It is the divine
command for our minds and is also known as Hukam.

Truth in His grace and mercy reveals His secret Shabad – the
insignia of His existence- (Anhad Bani or Sehaj Dhun) to some
blessed souls. The Guru gives the Gurmantra and through Gurman-
tra the secret Anhad Sabad (Word of Truth) is revealed to the
seeker.

The Sukhmana channel, located in the center of the spine travels
upward making six circles (chakras). These six chakras are called
khat chakras (six homes or six doors). These are the six places
where the channels of Ida and Pingala meet with the Sukhmana
channel. When the divine light of our soul travels through these
circles, different types of sounds are produced. Gurbani says:

kr kir qwl pKwvju nYnhu mwQY vjih rbwbw ]
krnhu mDu bwsurI bwjY ijhvw Duin Awgwjw ]
inriq kry kir mnUAw nwcY Awxy GUGr swjw ]1]
rwm ko inriqkwrI ] pyKY pyKnhwru dieAwlw jyqw swju sIgwrI ]
With the entry of divine light in the six chakras, the divine melody
of drum beat appears and eyes act as tambourines. The sound
LONGING LOVE FOR TRUTH
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of the guitar is heard in the forehead area. The sweet flute music
resounds in the ears. The mind starts to dance is reflected by
presence of sound of shaking ankle bracelets. This is the rhyth-
mic dance of mind for the Truth. The Truth, sees all the make-up
and decorations of such a mind.
(SGGS 884)

These sounds resemble the tones and tunes of a cricket, flute, gong,
conch shell, horn, tinkling bells, trumpet, rebeck, singing cicadas in
the silence of the night, and a falling bronze vessel. Other than five
sounds, many more melodies manifest. On the opening of the sixth
chakra, the Shabad enters the Gagan (the Tenth Sky). This
continuously reverberating melody at the Tenth Sky is called Sehaj
Dhun or Anhad sabad. When our mind enters the stage of
UnnMunn (inward mind), all the doors open and the tunes and all
the shabads start to sound.

vwjy sbd Gnyry ]
The divine melody of the Shabad vibrates.
(SGGS 917)

The combined symphony of these sounds is called Anhad Bani.
When these melodies are very loud and fast they are called Taar
Ghor Bajaantar (The grand orchestra of divine music). All these
melodies reverberate at the Tenth Door in the Sukhmana and are
called the divine music in the house of Sukhmana “Sukhman De
Ghar Raag”

Gr mih Gru dyKwie dyie so siqguru purKu sujwxu ]
pMc sbd Duinkwr Duin qh bwjY sbdu nIswxu ]
dIp loA pwqwl qh KMf mMfl hYrwnu ]
qwr Gor bwijMqR qh swic qKiq sulqwnu ]
suKmn kY Gir rwgu suin suMin mMfil ilv lwie ]
AkQ kQw bIcwrIAY mnsw mnih smwie ]
LONGING LOVE FOR TRUTH
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aulit kmlu AMimRiq BirAw iehu mnu kqhu n jwie ]
Ajpw jwpu n vIsrY Awid jugwid smwie ]
siB sKIAw pMcy imly gurmuiK inj Gir vwsu ]
sbdu Koij iehu Gru lhY nwnku qw kw dwsu ]
The True Guru is the All-knowing Primal Being; He shows us
our true home within the home of the self. The Panch Shabad, the
Five Primal Sounds, resonate and resound within; the insignia of
the Shabad is revealed there, vibrating gloriously. Worlds and
realms, nether regions, solar systems and galaxies are
wondrously revealed. The strings and the harps vibrate and
resound; the true throne of the Truth is there. Listen to the music
at the Sukhman channel and concentrate in the sunn. Contem-
plate the Unspoken Speech, and the desires of the mind are
dissolved. The heart-lotus is turned upside-down, and is filled
with Ambrosial Nectar. This mind does not go out; it does not get
distracted. It remembers truth without chanting and the mind is
immersed in the Primal Truth of the ages. All the companions of
this path are blessed with the five shabads. The Gurmukh minds
dwell in their homes. Nanak is the slave of that one who seeks the
Shabad and finds their home within.

(SGGS 1291)

[Truthseeker]

This one is the basic high pitched peeeee that one might hear even when not exposed to loud sounds. I may be wrong but this happens in the initial stages before hearing anhad as I used to hear it first.

I found this video which plays a range of sound frequencies, the sound I hear is 12-12.5 khz

[Sat1176]

As described by Sant Baba Isher Singh (Rare wale) and written up in Discourses on the Beyond vol. 3 by Sant Baba Waryam Singh ji.

What has been described as the primal sound is actually the Shabad (Divine Word). This is called the Anhad Nad the unstruck melody which is produced in the body without effort of the individual self and by the spontaneous vibrance of the vital airs (life breath) with the ether.

• Kingri : Single String musical instrument
• Singi : Yogis hollow horn, a kind of trumpet
• Bheri : Kettle Drum
• Toor: An S shaped trumpet
• Beena : A type of string instrument, flute or lyre.
• Ek Shabad : Sound of One Word (The primal sound)
• Nessanu Drum
• Garud Shabad The mantra that effaces the poisonous effects
• Ghanta : Bell or Gong
• Ghungru : small tinkling bells
• Tanti Shabad : Sound of vibrating strings
• Runjhun : Tinkling sound, jingle, chime
• Babiha : Music of Rain bird

1. Kingri : Single String musical instrument

The Guru, the detached Yogi, has enticed the hearts of all; He plays His harp in each and every heart.
mohi ga-i-aa bairaagee jogee ghat ghat kinguree vaa-ee. 907

My mind and breath are the two gourds of my fiddle, and the Lord of all the ages is its frame.
man pavan du-ay toombaa karee hai jug jug saarad saajee. 334

The string has become steady, and it does not break; this guitar vibrates with the unstruck melody.
thir bha-ee tantee tootas naahee anhad kinguree baajee. 335

In each and every heart the Music of the Lord`s harp vibrates, night and day, with sublime love for the Shabad.
ghat ghat vaajai kinguree an-din sabad subhaa-ay. 62


2. Singi : Yogis hollow horn, a kind of trumpet

The horn of consciousness vibrates the unstruck sound current; Your Light illuminates each and every heart, Lord.
sinyee surat anaahad vaajai ghat ghat jot tumaaree. 907

3. Bheri : Kettle Drum

The sound current of the Shabad is the sounding of the temple drums. Pause
anhataa sabad vaajant bhayree. rahaa-o. 663

4. Toor: An S shaped trumpet

All desires have been fulfilled.
sagal manorath pooray.
The unstruck melody of the sound current resounds.
baajay anhad tooray. 629

Pure are the listeners, and pure are the speakers; the True Guru is all-pervading and permeating.
suntay puneet kahtay pavit satgur rahi-aa bharpooray.
Prays Nanak, touching the Guru`s Feet, the unstruck sound current of the celestial bugles vibrates and resounds.
binvant naanak gur charan laagay vaajay anhad tooray. 922

5. Beena : A type of string instrument, flute or lyre.

The Yogi who plays on the flute of Gods Shabad gains the Blessed Vision of the Infinitely Beautiful Lord.
beenaa sabad vajaavai jogee darsan roop apaaraa. 351

My mind is absorbed in loving devotional worship of the Lord,
har kee paraym bhagat man leenaa.
Within me every plays the flute of Divine bliss . Pause||
nit baajay anhat beenaa. rahaa-o. 622

then the celestial flutes play the unstruck melody in tranquil peace and poise.
ta-o anhad bayn sahj meh baa-ay. 344


6.Ek Shabad : Sound of One Word (The primal sound)

The One Word of the Shabad abides within my mind; I shall not come to be born again.
ayk sabad mayrai paraan basat hai baahurh janam na aavaa. 794
He cuts off the three branches of the three qualities, and embraces love for the One Word of the Shabad.
saakhaa teen nivaaree-aa ayk sabad liv laa-ay. 66

7. Nessanu Drum

I will meet with my Lord by the beat of the drum.
mila-o gupaal neesaan bajaa-ee. 1164

8. Garud Shabad The mantra that effaces the poisonous effects

If he hears the Surpreme Gurus charm, believing in the Name his soul becomes contented
If one, as Gurmukh, hears and believes in the Name, the charm against poison, his mind becomes content.
gurmukh gaararh jay sunay mannay naa-o santos. 1009

As with the magic spell of Garuda the eagle upon one`s lips, one does not fear the snake;
garurh mukh nahee sarap taraas. 987

9. Ghanta : Bell or Gong

His bell resounds to the four corners of the world.
ghantaa jaa kaa sunee-ai chahu kunt.
His seat is forever in heaven.
aasan jaa kaa sadaa baikunth. 393

10. Ghungru : small tinkling bells

You shall hear the vibrations of the tinkling bells, when your mind is held steady.
ghunghroo vaajai jay man laagai. 356

Making the effort, the mind becomes pure; in this dance, the self is silenced.
udam karat hovai man nirmal naachai aap nivaaray.
The five passions are kept under control, and the One Lord dwells in the mind. |
panch janaa lay vasgat raakhai man meh aykankaaray.
Your humble servant dances and sings Your Glorious Praises.
tayraa jan nirat karay gun gaavai.
He plays upon the rebeck, tambourine and cymbals, and anklet bells and the the unstruck sound resounds. Pause
rabaab pakhaavaj taal ghunghroo anhad sabad vajaavai. rahaa-o. 381

11. Tanti Shabad : Sound of vibrating strings

Make the Fear of God, and the Love of God, the two gourds of your lute, Yogi, and make this body its neck.
bha-o bhaa-o du-ay pat laa-ay jogee ih sareer kar dandee.

Become Gurmukh, and then vibrate the strings; in this way, your desires shall depart. ||5||
gurmukh hoveh taa tantee vaajai in biDh tarisnaa khandee.

12. Runjhun : Tinkling sound, jingle, chime

Whoever reaches the fearless Lords Home, He ever hears the sweet and melodious celestial strain.
anhad run jhunkaar sadaa Dhun nirbha-o kai ghar vaa-idaa. 1033

13. Babiha : Music of Rain Bird

The rainbird chirps in the ambrosial hours of the morning before the dawn; its prayers are heard in the Court of the Lord.
baabeehaa amrit vaylai boli-aa taaN dar sunee pukaar.

The order is issued to the clouds, to let the rains of mercy shower down.
mayghai no furmaan ho-aa varsahu kirpaa Dhaar.

In the Hans Upanishad, where there is the mention of Anhad Shabad (unstruck melody), it is written:

[One who does japa of the Hans Mantra (Hamsa, Hansa, Sohum, So Ham, or So Hum.), millions of times, comes to the realization of Nad. It is also stated that Nad consists of ten different types of melodies, nine of which are to be passed over, and the tenth, which resembles the sound of the thunder of distant clouds, is to be meditated upon and practiced, for It takes one to Par-Brahm.] - from my own notes and not from the book.

• Chatka on hearing which all hair stand on ends
• Punn Punn Chann Chann on hearing all the limbs of the body are in bloom
• Bell on hearing mind and intellect are filled with love
• Conch on hearing which, ones head begins to whirl like that of an intoxicated person.
• Sound (note) of the harp by concentrating ones consciousness on that one feels surpreme bliss and nector seems to rain from the divine hole (top of the head).
• Nirakarai one feels Amrit nector in ones throat.
• Flute sweet note which fills every fibre of ones body with sweetness, no trace of disturbance of consciousness. Begin to get spiritual powers
• Pakhavaj One achieves the power to feel the musical phenomenon which is operating in ones body or that which a seeker hears within himself and begins to know its meaning.
• Small nafiri (energy) one is saturated with energy to the full and one acquires extremely strong power. One acquires the power to reach any place one desires physcailly or mentally. Invisibility
• Cloud on hearing which one sees the divine face to face.

What is commonly called the Anhad Shabad (The Divine Word, unstruck music) is the sum total of the five sounds

The five sounds are -

• Tata - Sound of vibrating Strings
• Vitu The sound produced by percussion on a stretched lether or membrane
• Ghan The sound produced by striking solid broze metal
• Nad The sound produced by thundering clouds
• Shishur or Shikar - The sound produced by blowing wind (breath) through holes

Edited July 29, 2014 by Sat1176

[das]

Sat bhaji, could you please point out in which deewan or bachan Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji gave that information? Also, are you referring to Rara Sahib wale or Nanaksar wale? Kindly suggest.

[Sat1176]

Clarified in post.

The details discussed in those books is too deep to be said on the average stage so you won't find audio recordings of such bachans. The first part of each discourse write up clearly states that these were baba ji''s bachans with a group of serious spiritual seekers irregardless of their background or following.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Sat1176

[chzS1ngh]

This very Shabad is also the guide for thr sikh disciple in the inner spiritual planes ( Shabad Guru(guide), Dhun(soul) chela(disciple)..... do not worry, one will not get distracted by these sounds, as they will pull one´s attention, will catch automaticaly one´s attention...and each sound is a milestone, means depending on what one hears, shows one´s level of consciousness reached... of course, these things are not to be talked of so lightly, or debated ... they to be experienced by each one of us.

i agree... i have heard various sounds...

i have a constant ringing in my ears...

but, there have been some sounds which beyond any doubt have been something completely else...they have swept me off my feet (attentionconsiousness)

You just know if something is genuine, it leaves no doubt or question..

[harsharan000]

i agree... i have heard various sounds...

i have a constant ringing in my ears...

but, there have been some sounds which beyond any doubt have been something completely else...they have swept me off my feet (attentionconsiousness)

You just know if something is genuine, it leaves no doubt or question..

Hearty congartulations Paa jee,

at least there is someone blessed by Him, who does the right devotion and confirms that the teachings of our Guru Sahibans, if done faithfully, is the only means to enter the inner spiritual realms, where the Truth permeates.

And this very Truth is perceived purer and purer as one ascends higher and higher in the vehicle of Naam and the fuel of Love for His Lotus Feet.

Dear brother keep up with your spiritual practices, may God bless you.

Sat Sree Akal.

[CdnSikhGirl]

I have experienced sounds I can't describe to others during some spiritually transformative events. Some were like static, rushing, pusling, electrical, vibrational sounds..... Other times more like wind. I have also heard sounds that were more like chimes like I was surrounded by hundreds of wind chimes. It's really difficult to explain to others that the sounds are indeed actually 'heard' even though they are not something from the outside environment.

Thing is what we consider to be sound is only what our brain deciphers the electrical signals to be. ALL sound is internal. Until our brain deciphers the pressure waves in the air and the choclea changes it to electrical signals.... What we perceive as sound does not exist at all. Sound requires a source, a medium, and a receiver. Without the receiver (your ear) it remains as mere pressure waves in a medium (air). So to me the interesting thing is to wonder where are we receiving the signals from, that we are recognizing as sound? And I find it very very awe inspiring that over 500 years ago, our Gurus knew that the basis of sound (and everything in existence) was vibration, long before science knew!!

[harsharan000]

Pen Jee,

thanks for such an inspiring and natural post; but if allowed I would like to share some points along :

The brain may be the receptor and decipher the electrical signals received, and is useful when there is body ....

But what about, when one deceases, and there is no physical body with its organs?

The thing is , the mind receives information through the senses and the physical organs. And all this, is limited between the material parameters.

Saints tell us, that the soul has the faculty to see, which is called "nirat", and the faculty to listen, which is called "surat".

Christ also referring to this topic says in the Bible: having eyes yee see not, having ears yee hear not.

Sachay Patshah Dhan Guru Angad Dev Maharaj also, tells us something on this Sound listening and seeing, in His pure paviter Bani of Raag Majh:

ਅਖੀ ਬਾਝਹੁ ਵੇਖਣਾ ਵਿਣੁ ਕੰਨਾ ਸੁਨਣਾ

Akhee Baajhahu Vaekhanaa Vin Kannaa Sunanaa

अखी बाझहु वेखणा विणु कंना सुनणा

To see without eyes; to hear without ears;

Here He is telling us, that, that power of Truth, of Shabad or Naam which is within us, is reverberating all the 24 hours, which can be seen and listened to, and for that, we do not need these physical eyes nor these physical ears. So what He is saying is, that Primal Sound or Shabad, has existed right from the very begining, and is the source and origin of everything seen or unseen.

Christ also says in the Bible: In the begining was the Word(Shabad), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....

Now most of us can not listen or see the reulgence of that Shabad within, and that is because, our minds are filled with the filth of karmas, desires, revenges, anger, hatred, falsehood ...... but that does not mean, that the Shabad of which our Guru Sahibans and all the true Gurmukhs or Bhagats talk about, is something a product of their imagination.

Nay.

It is their very interaction and experience with that ultimate and Supreme Truth, known as Shabad, Anhad Bani, Amrit Bani, Naam ..... different words have been used by different Lovers of God, at different places and times, but all do refer to the same Power

ਪੈਰਾ ਬਾਝਹੁ ਚਲਣਾ ਵਿਣੁ ਹਥਾ ਕਰਣਾ

Pairaa Baajhahu Chalanaa Vin Hathhaa Karanaa

पैरा बाझहु चलणा विणु हथा करणा

To walk without feet; to work without hands;

ਜੀਭੈ ਬਾਝਹੁ ਬੋਲਣਾ ਇਉ ਜੀਵਤ ਮਰਣਾ

Jeebhai Baajhahu Bolanaa Eio Jeevath Maranaa

जीभै बाझहु बोलणा इउ जीवत मरणा

To speak without a tongue-like this, one remains dead while yet alive.

In the above 2 lines, Satguru Jee is telling us, that not only can the soul see and listen without physical eyes and ears, but it can move and fly also, without any feet nor hands to work.

Naturally all these references by Guru Jee, are of the spiritual aspects of the soul alone, not of the body...

Now we may ask, what is the work of the soul which Guru Jee refers to?

Well, He clearly refers to the work of devotion, of bhagtee of Wahiguru ....

In which, one need not do anything such as rituals, customs, idol worship, etc(outer practices), in order to have the Darshan of the Jot of Wahiguru, and listen to the divine melodies emananting from that Shabad .....

But that much, as, His bhajan bandagee

Further on He reveals us some secrets for one´s spiritual progress and achievements, that, one need not the tongue to recite nor read anything in performing His devotion, but to do His Naam Simran with concentrated attention, in order to gather our dispersed consciousness throughout the nine portals of the body, and enter the spiritual realms, and there with the aid and guidance of Naam, through its Light and Sound, return back to our Nijh Ghar Sach Khand.

That is why the Bani says: Shabad Guru, Surat Dhun chela. The Shabad is our True Guru, and the disciples/ sikhs or chelas are our souls.

Sat Sree Akal.

Edited August 16, 2014 by harsharan000

[CdnSikhGirl]

That's what I was alluding to That everything we 'hear' is really internal.. its really our soul that is hearing and not the physical body.

Having experienced the OBE state, I can say that I know what the feeling of movement without feet is like... and hearing without ears... Basically when I say the entire universe is vibration... its because everything arises out of the ONE consciousness... matter is all just energy vibrating at a slow state (comparatively speaking). Our true nature is actually nonphysical.

btw I am really loving this forum... as I am finding lots of like minded people here nice to meet you!

Edited August 16, 2014 by Satkirin_Kaur

[chzS1ngh]

Hearty congartulations Paa jee,

at least there is someone blessed by Him, who does the right devotion and confirms that the teachings of our Guru Sahibans, if done faithfully, is the only means to enter the inner spiritual realms, where the Truth permeates.

And this very Truth is perceived purer and purer as one ascends higher and higher in the vehicle of Naam and the fuel of Love for His Lotus Feet.

Dear brother keep up with your spiritual practices, may God bless you.

Sat Sree Akal.

Thank you ji for the kind words...

The one thing that i have learned is that I (ego) am not capable of anything...the most profound and immensely powerful experiences i've had have occured spontaneously and through no control of myself...i have literally had to surrender to it...

but then a few days later the Ego mind starts ticking again trying to put logic and method to what occured..."oh it happened because you were sat in a certain way, or were putting your attention in a particular place, or foccused on a particular sound"...and then my next amrit vela simran is thwarted with these thoughts "try this, try that, can i hear this, can i see that"...and then i feel so far away again

All is Him, I am nothing and am not capable of doing anything...

the only thing that i bring to the table is Gurmanter, an often aching heart and a thirsty soul...

Edited August 18, 2014 by chzS1ngh

[Lucky]

Welcome ChazS1ngh !

You are right, it really pushes your inner ego to the limits at times.

I have to constantly remind myself that it is ALL him and his kirpa.

All I ever pray and ask for is that LOVE keep getting enshrined and stronger. I beg that I don't accidentally let a veil come over that connection.

We all know just how easy that is in the world we live in.

I hope you inspire and get inspired on this forum.

Many members have influenced and motivated each other in many aspects. I think there is material and information on here that you will not find anywhere else or that no person, institution or gurudwara would ever have told you.

Most of it is confirmed and acknowledged in some sort of practical approach or experience, and I don't know anywhere else where these kind of contributions exist.

[chzS1ngh]

Welcome ChazS1ngh !

You are right, it really pushes your inner ego to the limits at times.

I have to constantly remind myself that it is ALL him and his kirpa.

All I ever pray and ask for is that LOVE keep getting enshrined and stronger. I beg that I don't accidentally let a veil come over that connection.

We all know just how easy that is in the world we live in.

I hope you inspire and get inspired on this forum.

Many members have influenced and motivated each other in many aspects. I think there is material and information on here that you will not find anywhere else or that no person, institution or gurudwara would ever have told you.

Most of it is confirmed and acknowledged in some sort of practical approach or experience, and I don't know anywhere else where these kind of contributions exist.

indeed, am enjoying the input of 'open minded' individuals that are more interested in inspiring and learning than combating beliefs...

[Sahib]

So should we concentrate on such sounds like high frequence buzz or ring sounds or we should just ignore them???

[Lucky]

So should we concentrate on such sounds like high frequence buzz or ring sounds or we should just ignore them???

As far as I realize, in the early stages- we should keep Gurmantar/Shabad at the forefront.

I always kept, or tried to keep the main dhyan on the gurmantar and jap.

Initially, I probably tried to ignore them because at that point I didn't have much understanding...but I always thought that waheguru knows I'm trying to jap, so he must be putting them there for some reason.

But you should acknowledge them and not let them digress you away from gurmantar.

Later, the sounds start to get captivating and magnetic, and they begin to pull you in deeper.

Edited August 19, 2014 by Lucky

[harsharan000]

So should we concentrate on such sounds like high frequence buzz or ring sounds or we should just ignore them???

As Lucky Jee said, one should start with the Simran/jap. But one should keep in mind that the simran is needed for concentration and focusing one´s dispersed attention.

One may ask, o.k, but concentration for what?

Well, for the only purpose to concentrate that much sufficient , as to perceive the inner reality, and Nam or Shabad.

Throughout the teachings, we know that Wahiguru, is in reality nothing, but Shabad. And as such infinite conscious energy, which has Jot as refulgence and blissful sound, as its manifestations in those spiritual realms, especially more as such, in Sach Khand.

So repetition of Gurmanter or Nam Simran, has a purpose to fulfill also. It is like a rubber ring we put to a child, to learn to be in the water, and be an aid to learn swimming.

Once the child learns swimming and has become familiar with the water with continuos practice, it does not need the rubber ring anymore. The child jumps directly into the water (swimming pool / beach) and starts swimming in a natural manner.

All our preparations in Simran or meditation, are also for preparing and purifying ourselves, in order to catch hold of that Sound which is constantly reverbating within, and to ultimately go with it by mounting on it, and in the end, to merge into it.

So instead to ignore the sounds you hear, rather be thankful to the Lord Wahiguru, for blessing you to listen His voice (sound/s).

May God bless you.

Sat Sree Akal.

Edited August 20, 2014 by harsharan000

[Truthseeker]

So should we concentrate on such sounds like high frequence buzz or ring sounds or we should just ignore them???

As far as I realize, in the early stages- we should keep Gurmantar/Shabad at the forefront.

I always kept, or tried to keep the main dhyan on the gurmantar and jap.

Initially, I probably tried to ignore them because at that point I didn't have much understanding...but I always thought that waheguru knows I'm trying to jap, so he must be putting them there for some reason.

But you should acknowledge them and not let them digress you away from gurmantar.

Later, the sounds start to get captivating and magnetic, and they begin to pull you in deeper.

Thanks to the members on this form, gyan from Guru Granth Sahib, few other Gurmukhs, reading Sri Guru Nanak Chamatkar book by Bhai Sahib Bhai Vir Singh Ji.

I have also come to realise the Gurmantra/GurShabad should be the most important.

As Lucky said "sounds start to get captivating and magnetic, and they begin to pull you in deeper"

This is also mentioned on another site.

"it is easy for the mind to get over-involved - almost OCD - in listening to inner sounds and trying to determine which is better or "right". In the process, the mind becomes like a dog incessantly chasing its tail. Instead, Charan Singh tells us to simply keep repeating and focusing on Simran. The more your attention is wholly and solely focused upon Simran, the more it will be immersed in the Sound Current - and, in the process, the subordinate sounds will fade into the background and the real, Eternal Sound will emerge into your focus, lift you up above body-consciousness and guide you within"

As it says in Guru Granth Sahib chant the Gurmantra, day and night while standing, sitting, sleeping, eating, walking, working, etc.

Gurmukh said if we can not make our mind sit without taking thoughts for 3 hours then it will be very heard to merge into naam. Therefore, must keep doing simran to make mind sit.

If we take a thought to transition from Gurmantra to Naam then we take a thought which will put us back into Maya, Therefore, make mind so still that when Naam comes it automatically pulls you within without you taking a thought.

Also to add, Gurpreet Shimla Wale in his kirtan/katha mentioned that we are to keep chanting the Gurmantra because it will eventually go into rom rom (heartbeat and cells).

I think that once Gurmantra goes into heartbeat, then one is able to listen to the Naad. It says in Guru Granth Sahib Ji "the Sound-current of the Naad vibrates in each and every heart".

If I made any mistakes, forgive me, I too am still learning on this path.

Man tan antari Hari Hari Mant. Nanak bhagtan kai ghar sadaa anand: The Mantra of God's Name, Har, Har, is deep Within my mind and body. O Nanak, eternal bliss fills the home of God's devotees (sggs 802).

Raam Naam Mant hirdai daivai Nanak milan subhaaye: The Mantra of the Raam Naam is enshrined Within the heart, O Nanak, and we merge with Him so easily (sggs 444).

Edited August 20, 2014 by Truthseeker

[harsharan000]

Simran or repetition of Wahiguru, is done by the mind or with attention, at different levels of energy or consciousness.

As said previously, it is solely done, to be able to concentrate our attention and enter the finer realms and get certain purification also.

And that´s it.

It can not take one farther, as it is done within the gross or mental planes.

Because it is the mind which needs to get purified.

The body as we know, is insentient or inert, so it does not get anything to do with it, only as much as only to cooperate with the mind in the right and a relaxed manner, so it can stay without moving as long as possible.

The soul does not do the repetition nor simran. The soul is pure by nature, it is same as in essence as Wahiguru Akal Purukh.

Other thing is, that, it is covered with dirt and filth by the different subtle layers due to the collection of it, since aeons, since it left it´s Father´s House( Sach Khand) and came in association and influence of mind and maya ....to the extent, that the soul has forgotten it´s true nature, so it does nothing to regain it´s True self, and merge in Wahiguru Akal Purukh.

And so, this cleaning is done at two levels. Firstly at the lower or mental level, the mind gets purified with the simran, then secondly, ath e higher level in the causal plane, which is storehouse of all our karmas and these can be only wiped, with the Amrit or Shabad Dhun at that level. And the consequence of this cleaning and purification, allows us to cross and reach Parbraham, and from there on, by mounting the vehicle of Nam or Shabad, the soul reaches the True region, Sach Khand, which is beyond any dissolutions)Parlay) and grand dissolutions(maha parlay).

Once reaching there, the soul in the vehicle of Nam, gets the Darshan of Sat Purukh or Satnam, and becomes one, by the Grace and Mercy of Wahiguru Akal Purukh, by getting dissolved in that Sat Shabad.

So, we must always keep in mind, Wahiguru is a Nirankar Conscious Energy(Shabad).

So we too, if it is His Hukum, we shall blend in Him, just as He is.

We should not think, that by reaching there in Sach Khand, we shall see our Guru Sahibans or the different Bhagats or Gurmukhs....

No.

The Bani says, Sach Khand vaseh Nirankar. This means, only He is there. This Conscious Energy or Shabad, when descended at the lower planes, assumed the human form to let us know about Him, and when our Guru Sahibans left this plane, again they merged back into that Satnam Samundar, becoming one.

Let us say, if a drop of water falls into an ocean, can we trace it?

No, isn´t it?

The drop was a drop, as long as it was in a container. Once it falls or gets into the ocean, it no longer is a drop, which was an illusion of form, size and colour, due to its separation from it´s Origin and being in a container ( different bodies : physical, astral or causal )

So if we go to see, in the end, in this process of our union with Him, it is nothing to our credit, but it is only the mahima of Wahiguru Akal Purukh, Nam, Shabad, Anhad Bani, or Sound Current ....

And for that very reason, we should never ever underestimate any sound we may hear in the begining. Our purification and the ability to catch hold of the purer sounds goes hand by hand.

The more our purity, the finer(subtler) the sound we listen to, at that stage.

Sat Sree Akal.

May God bless all.

Edited August 22, 2014 by harsharan000

[Sahib]

The ringing in the ears which is called Tinnitus is not Anhad Shabad. Radhasoamis focus on the tinnitus and think it is Anhad Shabad they are hearing. Anhad Shabad or the unstuck sound is something that is very divine and out of this world and this avastha is realized only in the higher stages in the spiritual ladder.

i have read a lot of beas books..radhaswamis dont consider tinnitus as anhad shabad..but they consider that these innitial sounds are the way to the anhad shabd..from practical experience my grandfather who is both amrit dhari and radhaswami once heard a bell sound which took him out of the body..he could see his body in front..the he was caried by some force and he saw a very bright light...he said that it was so bright that even sun is nothing when compared..it all happened due to that uplifting bell sound..so i believe along with waheguru jap this exercise should also be included

[chzS1ngh]

with Guru Ji's grace i have experienced this Loud Bell sound, and it literally took me away...

I'm not sure there is any additional exercise here....i was only doing Waheguru Simran during Amrit Vela...and the first time i heard the Bell was when i went back to bed after my Simran to get a couple of extra hours sleep...so i wasn't doing anything in particular or even listening out for sounds

So then what could it be other than Grace...all is Waheguru. Other people may be able to induce the same experience through effort or method, but me personally i havent...i also found that it literally whisked me away...i didnt have much choice in the matter

i am finding more and more, that at some point on this journey, you just have to surrender more and more, and the more your surrender, the more unravels..

[Sahib]

You are right in your way..leaving upon his will and grace helps us to clean a lot of garbage in mind.and this is in itself a spiritual exercise...less the mind more the sound..atlast these sounds are just the shadows of the naam or the primal sound

[Truthseeker]

When God's name dwells on the tongue ofthe meditator,

he gets gustation. When the morsel ofbread is placed on the tongue,

one gets relishment. By uttering 'Waheguru', one gets great bliss.

Uptil now God's name has dwelt on the tongue; as yet awareness

has come that the tongue has started getting great bliss. The

repetition ofsaying God's name should continue and the Shabad

will go still deeper. The sound of Waheguru, Waheguru, that has

come up from the navel, and is manifesting through Praa, Basanati,

Madhma and Baikharee, ifthe same sound ofWaheguru, Waheguru

goes down from the throat (Basanti); such a person starts hearing

Anahad Naad and he has reached upto the centre where the

instrument is ringing, but the sound ofthe instrument is coming

from afar. At this state the glimpse of Shabad starts appearing.

55Sometimesthe flavour comes, sometimes not. Sometimes the sound

is heard, sometimes not. This is the state when the meditator

reaches near the door ofGod or near the Anahad Naad and Guru.

At present only sound or shabad is being heard but His

glimpse has not been seen. Tongue has got relishment and the ears

have begun to hear but the glimpse and splendour of God has not

appeared. One has reached upto the Guru but not upto God. One

has reached near the door but entry into His Abode has not taken

place. The repetition ofWaheguru, Waheguru should continue and

this sound Basanti should go down and reach praa , that is , it

should collide with navel. Then navel will completely open. This

opening is just like the opening at the time of death and navel

opens completely with the last breath and the body dies. But when

navel opens completely with the strike ofsound ofWaheguru, body

remains alive but the mind dies. Then the Supreme splendour

spreads and the tongue becomes quite and does not repeat

Waheguru, Waheguru

http://www.gurmatveechar.com/books/English_Books/Shabad.Guru.Surat.Dun.Chela.by.Giani.Sant.Singh.Maskeen.(GurmatVeechar.com).pdf

Edited September 21, 2014 by Truthseeker